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>ahh! It’s so scary!
>so scary, in fact, that I won’t even describe it to you, yes
Let’s be honest, he was just coping for a lack of a real imagination with this gimmick

>> No.18449529

As I get older I know less and less what to do with this kind of zoomer shitposting where the poster clearly hasn't even read the thing he wants to argue about

>> No.18449643

>>18449521
Yes, Lovecraft is shit. Big surprise.

>> No.18449899

>>18449529
It's the circle of life. We used to be spergy idiots once, too, and there were surely wiser folks that sighed at our idiocies as well.

The best I can make of it is that some people are either incapable or unwilling to engage with the world and don't have a single thought in their heads that wasn't put there by someone else.

Comfort yourself with the thought that OP may one day, possibly even out of spite, read an actual book and develop his own opinion, remote as the possibility may be.

>>18449521
As for you, I would insult your lack of intelligence directly were it not for the possibility that the stress it would put on your underdeveloped brain might cause you to stop breathing.

Go read a book, fag.

>> No.18449902 [DELETED] 

>>18449521
He hated black people because he has black physiognomy himself.

>lips
>eyes
>ears
>nose

>> No.18449912

>>18449521
>The thing came abruptly and unannounced; a daemon, rat-like scurrying from pits remote and unimaginable, a hellish panting and stifled grunting, and then from that opening beneath the chimney a burst of multitudinous and leprous life—a loathsome night-spawned flood of organic corruption more devastatingly hideous than the blackest conjurations of mortal madness and morbidity. Seething, stewing, surging, bubbling like serpents’ slime it rolled up and out of that yawning hole, spreading like a septic contagion and streaming from the cellar at every point of egress—streaming out to scatter through the accursed midnight forests and strew fear, madness, and death.

>> No.18449941
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Have you ever read Lovecraft? He usually did describe the monsters in great detail and they were usually very imaginative. He did use the "indescribable" trope, but not all the time.

>> No.18450927

>>18449912
I feel that lovecraft-inspired imagery has polluted my brain and I can only visualize scenes like this in the context of others' depictions, and not my own imagination.

I wonder what the author had in mind.

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>>18450927
Prob a black guy, maybe a italian if he was feeling particulary spicy that day

>> No.18451292

>>18449521
For the most part Lovecraft described his horrors pretty well which is one of the reasons why he is more popular then Blackwood or Hodgeson for cosmic horror. Now thats not knocking either of them the Willows was a pretty scary story however it cant really compete with Lovecraft's aliens and great old ones just in terms of actual content. Read the Shadow out of time and tell me Lovecraft is not creative

>> No.18451306

>>18449521
>>so scary, in fact, that I won’t even describe it to you, yes
Not true, he loved using the same 20 adjectives to describe the horrible egregiously foul monstrosity.

>> No.18451315

>>18451292
>and tell me Lovecraft is not creative
He's not. Lovecraft's brain is rife with cliches both old and similar to his peers.

>> No.18451344

>>18451315
Having read practically all of it I dont see how is work is full of Cliches unless you want to make some point about his beastiary being somewhat tangential in its forms to some of HG Well's creatures. And of course its going to be similar to his peers when they where all sharing concepts and ideas.

>> No.18451427

>>18451344
Despite the fact Lovecraft is widely accredited with the reputation of being the father of all cosmic horror, his stories are all actually quite predictable - typical pulp stuff, really. While you could argue that Lovecraft was a major contributor to touching on the aesthetic, he was a pulp horror author first, a modernist second, and a "cosmic horror" author dead last. It's foolhardy to say Lovecraft is more imaginative than his contemporaries such as Clark Ashton Smith or Philip E. Howards, let alone his main inspiration in Poe.

>> No.18451447

>>18451306
>>>so scary, in fact, that I won’t even describe it to you, yes
Have a book with some of his less know stories and incomplete ones, and it sucked. It used the ''I can't describe more than once'' and the usual ''I'm insane so I'm going to write this story very eloquently for an insane person'' but those were obviously his more shitty works so he gets a pass, I enjoy his stories quite a lot but they will eventually feel 'samey', sometimes its even more entertaining to read a fan wiki about his cosmic monsters than the stories itself

>> No.18451450

>>18451447
>''I can't describe more than once''
''I cant describe it'' more than once

>> No.18451711

>>18451427
I would argue against himself being primarily a pulp author in terms of style. While some concessions had to be made for the most part Lovecraft wrote in spite of the Pulp mould considering how many of his works where initally rejected by Pulp magazines. Stating Lovecraft to be a cosmic horror author last is just mongish contrainism, you can cherry pick stories he wrote for Houdini or other ghostwritten stories but he would always go out of his way to inject cosmicism into stories where there was none.

>> No.18451923

>>18449521
>*creates a cosmogony*
>"lack of a real imagination"
How many legends did you invent?

>> No.18451960

>>18449521
>"Cthulhu is so fucking powerful bro, he is like a God to us"
>Read the fucking novel
Cthulhu got owned by a boat. The end

>> No.18451974

>>18449521
You're the one devoid of imagination because writers aren't CGI designers.

>> No.18452530

>>18449521
People who say this didn't really read him and are just regurgitating memes they've seen. He gives you enough to let your imagination do it's thing. And he does it quite well

>> No.18452662

SAVE ME NIGGERMAN

>> No.18452755

>>18449899
>>18449529
It's like meta irony, the poster doesn't really know what his stance on something is, so he think up a low quality shitpost to use as bait so people will start discussing and expanding upon the topic
tl;dr you bit

>> No.18454283

>>18451711

To reduce Lovecraft´s prose to that of "pulp writing" means that you probably didn't understand him. Read "Weird Realism" of Graham Harman, he pretty much destroys that assumption there.

>> No.18455274

>>18451711
>I would argue against himself being primarily a pulp author in terms of style. While some concessions had to be made for the most part Lovecraft wrote in spite of the Pulp mould considering how many of his works where initally rejected by Pulp magazines.
Pulp sounds like a dirty word in this context, but when you compare him to other authors of his era (such as the aforementioned ones), 'pulp' describes Lovecraft quite well.
>Stating Lovecraft to be a cosmic horror author last is just mongish contrainism
The simple fact is "cosmic horror" wasn't a genre until well after his death.
>you can cherry pick stories he wrote for Houdini or other ghostwritten stories but he would always go out of his way to inject cosmicism into stories where there was none.
So what, the point is that the structure of the stories themselves are one note and banal. If you perhaps replaced any other of the extra-dimensional aliens with a more traditional monster such as a Vampire or Werewolf, you would find no shift in his writing style, nor would the inevitable reveal be any more or less shocking.

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>>18449521
No one is allowed to post in this thread after this post unless you recommend me a horror book that you think is good.

>> No.18455357

Someone post that lovecraft meme about black people

>> No.18456471

>>18449521
Fuck yes, yesterday I read the color that fell from the sky (Idk the english translation) but it was so lame, the guy just doesn't describe anything

>> No.18457796
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>>18455338
does All Tomorrows count as horror?

>> No.18457866

>>18451292
Shadow out of time is boring as hell. Lovecraft couldn't set a scene and build it like Blackwood could. Willows and Wendigo are both masterpieces of atmospheric horror.

>> No.18457896

>>18455338
The Terror

>> No.18458871

>>18449521
100 years from now, people will still be reading Lovecraft and talking about him.
No one will ever read any of your shitty writing, and everything you say, everything you are and ever will be will fade into dust.
Why? you ask.
Because he named his cat Niggerman.
Only a truly great writer would do that.
And Lovecraft was a truly great writer, while you're just a pogue.

>> No.18458953

>>18455338
Lovecraft aside (Rats in the Walls is the best btw), I'd say the Shining. There's one part with the hedge animals I found genuinely spooky. Then again a lot of people seem to loathe that book.

>> No.18458972

>>18449521
>durr lovecraft has no imagination
>durr im just copying a thread idea thats been made 100,000 times before

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>>18449521

>> No.18459005

>>18458953
>I'd say the Shining.
Stephen King is a serial plagiarist.
King’s first published novel “Carrie” (1974) ripped off a couple key scenes directly from William Blatty’s highly successful “The Exorcist” (book 1971, movie 1973)
“The Shining” heavily ripped off both “The Plague” by Camus and “The Inn” by de Maupassant. Stop when this sounds familiar: the short story “The Inn” is where the two characters are in an old inn high up in the Swiss Alps. They get snowed in for the winter, one of them starts going crazy, and his family, who go up there after the spring thaw, find their relative has gone insane and they never find out what happened to his companion, presumably murdered.
King’s college roommate George McLeod wrote a short story which he later accused King of plagiarizing for his 1985 novella “The Body” (“Stand By Me” movie 1986)

>> No.18459021

>>18456471
>he can't imagine colours that don't exist in reality

>> No.18459048

>>18449521
>i saw something indescribable...
>allow me to describe it to you in excruciating detail
Every single one of his protagonists do this.

>> No.18459098

>>18452755
i never thaught about it that way but that makes sense why 90% of lit is just shitpost. people dont want to read something and ponder upon it (they may be wrong!) or read piece of some professor (academia hacks, i don't blame them), so they come where all e/lit/e gathers

>> No.18459124

>>18459098
It's pretty much a twist on the old linuxforums trick: If your question doesn't get answered, make a new account and post a fake answer and people immediately rush in to correct you.

>> No.18459138

>>18450927
>>18451134
>maybe a italian if he was feeling particulary spicy that day
You ain't seen nuthin' yet.

>The organic things—Italo-Semitico-Mongoloid—inhabiting that awful cesspool could not by any stretch of the imagination be call’d human. They were monstrous and nebulous adumbrations of the pithecanthropoid and amoebal; vaguely moulded from some stinking viscous slime of earth’s corruption, and slithering and oozing in and on the filthy streets or in and out of windows and doorways in a fashion suggestive of nothing but infesting worms or deep-sea unnamabilities. They—or the degenerate gelatinous fermentation of which they were composed—seem’d to ooze, seep and trickle thro’ the gaping cracks in the horrible houses… and I thought of some avenue of Cyclopean and unwholesome vats, crammed to the vomiting-point with gangrenous vileness, and about to burst and innundate the world in one leprous cataclysm of semi-fluid rottenness.

>> No.18459143

>>18449643
>>18449521
Lovecraft is overhyped garbage. Anyone who says he is good is a retard. So many people label things as "Lovecraftian" without ever reading any of his shit work. It's like someone saying "he is so Christian" when talking about a Muslim doing charity work.

>> No.18459959

>>18456471
Same here with Call of the Cthulu

>> No.18460123

>>18459143
Muslims doing charity is unironically, very muslim.

>> No.18460146

You sound like somebody who's read every single thing written about Lovecraft and not a single thing actually written by him.

>> No.18460276

>>18449521
Retard. Even movie directors know that the scariest monsters are the ones you don’t show to the audience.

>> No.18460534

>ahh! It bore such a hideous visage that it had no equal to anything in the world. Except perhaps a mulatto. Yes, indeed, now that I think about it it was almost as frightening as a mulatto

>> No.18460612

>>18451960
How many times have you survived a boat crashing into your head? Also, Cthulhu is probably stupid because he is psychic and therefore does not need to be smart.