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How was western philosophy received in the east? Any serious book about it?

>> No.18445333

>>18445284
Through Alexander the Great mostly. It resulted in a curious hybrid known as Greco-Buddhism that drew more than just a blueprint to Christianity. For example the veneration of the saints Barlaam and Josaphat whose names come from the Persian translations of Buddha and Bodhisattva.
https://www.lionsroar.com/reviews-how-the-buddha-became-st-josaphat/amp/

>> No.18445335

>>18445333
Retard

>> No.18445345

>>18445284
>How was western philosophy received in the east?
As they receive everything foreign except possibly military technology: with violent resistance.
Some Japs enjoyed jerking off to German idealism in the late 19th and early 20th centuries but they never really understood it (not many people understand it in the West as well, to be fair).

>> No.18445348

>>18445284
Look up the "Kyoto school". That's the obvious one. It was basically a lot of Japanese philosophers mixing Western and Eastern philosophy together. For example, Heidegger + Dogen and that kind of stuff.

>> No.18445388

>>18445284
For China, google 'Chinese Receptions of Western Philosophy' for a pdf of an article by Ronnie Littlejohn.

The history of Western philosophy in Japan is linked to the story in China - many, but not all, concepts in Western philosophy were introduced to China via Japanese translations.

(The story usually focuses on the late 19th and early 20th century translation and interpretation of German French and British philosophers, but If Christianity and Judaism are 'western philosophy', then that story goes back to 650CE. From a Chinese point of view you could see Buddhism as Western philosophy, in which case the story goes back to like 150CE. Buddhism had a huge influence on Chinese metaphysics and logic. So much so post-Buddhist Confucian philosophers found it impossible to think ouside of Buddhist frameworks).

>> No.18445395

>>18445388
Thank you.

>> No.18445404

>>18445284
I'm not aware of books talking about how western philosophy was received by easterners generally, but there is one book written by an Indian where he goes through a bunch of western philosophy and contrasts it with Advaita Vedanta

>Vedanta or The Science of Reality’ is characterized by deep and vast scholarship, perspicacious analysis, fearless critical assessment and a remarkably arresting English style. The book is not a mere dogmatic assertion of the greatness of Vedanta, but a systematic establishment of an eternal Truth. "Vedanta is a Positive Science founded on reason, intuition and universal experience".

>With a thorough and impeccable knowledge of Oriental and Occidental schools of philosophy, the author was able to cognize the relative merits of each system. This monumental work examines all Philosophical dicta from Socrates, Plato and Aristotle down to Hegel, Schopenhauer and Rusell Vis-a—vis the truth enshrined in Vedanta.

https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.22640

>> No.18445417

>>18445388
>If Christianity and Judaism are 'western philosophy'
They aren't.
"Believe everything written in this old holy book" is incompatible with the rational character of most of Western philosophy.

>> No.18445423

>>18445284
The WWII Japanese based their racial purity ideas off of Aristotle and Karl Haushofer in part.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Investigation_of_Global_Policy_with_the_Yamato_Race_as_Nucleus

>> No.18445499

If you're interested in the situation in China, check out Mou Zongsan, though I'm not sure if all his works are translated. Start with 'Nineteen Lectures on Chinese Philosophy'. He used western analytical framework to approach the subject. I know it's some good shit when he very succinctly reframed early Greek philosophy in terms of Taoism 5 pages in. So check it out.

>> No.18445515

>>18445417
lol pseud

>> No.18445540

>>18445417
If you exclude Christians and writing framed in explicitly religious terms from the history of Western philosophy then you end up with a massive gap from the closing of the Platonic academy in 529CE to.. Hume? in the 18th century. And wouldn't include Descartes etc.

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/philo/
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/maimonides/
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/augustine/

>> No.18445571

>>18445540
cant include Kant either

>> No.18445629

>>18445348
This

>> No.18445631

>>18445388
Just read the papar. Good reference paper desu, will probably read some of the mentions there. Funny how it kinda got around the giant red elephant in the room too(marxism). Some people think it isn't western or something.

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>>18445571
>kants philosophy was christian

>> No.18445661

Religion and Nothingness by Keiji Nishitani goes over Zen and its relationship with Western philosophy. It's essentially about Sunyata.

Anyways, China had been receiving Western thought piecemeal since, well, the Greeks. When the Jesuits brought Western astronomy over, the Chinese had already received all of the Greek (which in reality is itself a reformulation and expansion of earlier Babylonian astrology, although Greek, Babylonian, Chinese, and Indian astrology are NOT the same thing and all are very different in key ways) astrology centuries prior. They knew about Sagittarius and Leo. What they really liked were the mathematical models and methods of dating alongside the instruments. In particular, they liked lenses, which were a uniquely European invention. Up until this point the Chinese had been working purely off of the eye and didn't really have sophisticated mathematical models for celestial phenomena. The Chinese see this all as a great win for China and a clear demonstration of Chinese superiority and Western weakness and intellectual simplicity.

The Pope of course was a retard and got the Jesuits kicked out of China, but that's another story.

>> No.18445741

>>18445540
>If you exclude Christians and writing framed in explicitly religious terms from the history of Western philosophy then you end up with a massive gap from the closing of the Platonic academy in 529CE to.. Hume?
Yes.

>> No.18446077

>>18445540
>CE
go back