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>In the late 1970s, at a time when what is today called gender history was mostly conceived of as women's history, driven by the effort to make women—female agency, impact, and suffering—visible in a male-dominated world, the German literary scholar Klaus Theweleit drew attention to the emotional world and gendered “phantasies” of men. It was a special group of men that Theweleit examined, however: the German Freikorps soldiers who, in the aftermath of World War I, and in a spirit of authoritarianism, militarism, nationalism, and misogynistic resentment, fought a civil war against democrats, socialists, communists, Jews, and women. In Theweleit's view, Freikorps men radicalized common Western and German norms about male self-control and “hard” masculinity into a perpetual war against women and femininity. It was not least the femininity that existed within men, as a desire for domesticity, tenderness, and compassion, that the men of the Freikorps wanted to “defeat.” Driven by the loss of a firm identity and ubiquitous fears of sexuality and states of liquidity, these men and their “male fantasies” spearheaded the rise and heralded the devastating impact of the Third Reich, according to Theweleit. Although his work was empirically based on a limited number of autobiographical writings by the individuals he examined, Theweleit, inspired by post-Freudian psychoanalysis, understood his findings in a quasi-universal sense: masculinity, male solidarity, and, above all, the steeled, armored male body appeared as the engines of a patriarchal order, with “perpetrator-men” and “victim-women” juxtaposed dichotomously.

Has anyone here read it?

>> No.18442377

>>18442369
Ywnbaw

>> No.18442434

>>18442377
If you don't have anything to say, go back to where you came from.

>> No.18442438

>>18442369
Garbage. Nothing new

>> No.18442450

>>18442369
It's actually a pretty cool piece of scholarship, so of course nobody on this board will like or understand it.

The only real critique that I've heard against it is that Theweleit overestimates the amount of veterans in these groups. From what I've read, the Freikorps were mostly young men who had no experience of the first world war.

But yeah, very interesting piece on Weimar Germany. If this book interests you, you might also be interested in Verhältnislehre der Kälte by Helmut Lethen. The title is "Cool Conduct" in English.

>> No.18442456

>>18442434
I feel the same about Jeweleit

>> No.18442605

>>18442369
All I have to say is that I look forward to the emergence of the next Hitler and the completion of his divine project.

>> No.18442796

>>18442450
I like and understand it in the context of red army brigades arguments, arguments regarding the Baltic’s, western alter-kampfer government in the 60s. You know the routine. (Buchardt at Koln 73).

His interdisciplinary method is marginal and tendentious but works. Sadly dykes don’t realise that only real men can hold multidisciplinary research together between their arse cheeks like a comrades rod.

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>>18442369

Sorta wanna add this one (TWO volumes) to my collection at some point but I want to pick off a bunch of the cheap ones first on coupon day. Another desired volume is the late Negt volume on more public sphere stuff per Habermas, but as it's more desirable, it costs.

>> No.18444489

>>18442936
>No Visions of Excess or The Infinite Conversation

>> No.18445293

It's good

https://youtu.be/xguZg16-nvM?t=850

>> No.18445338

>>18442605
Couldn't agree more.

>> No.18445371

>>18442369
>admits that it's based off a limited data set
>makes broad statements about this mindset leading to Nazi Germany
>a party that was full of cross dresser and gays

>> No.18445400

>Theweleit was born in Ebenrode, East Prussia (now Nesterov, Russia), the son of a railway company worker and a Jewish mother.

More accusations and assertions of homosexuality in the ranks. I wish I could say it was anything but typical.

>> No.18445449

>>18442377
>>18442438
>>18442605
>>18445371
>>18445400
incel poltards feeling caught

>> No.18445462

Women voted for the nazis though. I guess that was internalized misogyny?

>> No.18445500

>>18445462
women are always NPC drones who follow whatever the chad tells them

>> No.18445520

>>18445293
the lecturer is addicting

>> No.18446308

>>18445293
witty chap

>> No.18446337

Gender studies is both drivel not worth the price of the paper it was printed on and not literature related
>>>/his/

>> No.18446438

>>18445371
>a party that was full of cross dresser and gays
That was pretty common in the 1940s.

https://youtu.be/1RYHowaXdFY?t=5892

>> No.18446448

>>18442369
>misogynistic resentment
Stopped reading right here.

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>>18446448

>> No.18447807

>>18442369
>>18445293
It's quite bizarre, yet hardly surprising, that in more than half a century we are still yet to move past the point where we unironically consider takes like "the nazis were just paranoid/gay/misogynystic/abused/repressed/etc." incisive and impressive.

More than seven decades, and we're still rolling around, like happy little pigs, in the swamp of Ideology.

>> No.18447986

>>18442369
Just reading the description gave me terminal boredom.

>> No.18448093

>>18445293
What a load of garbage

>> No.18448099

>>18445293
/pol/tards BTFO!

>> No.18448146

>>18442450
It's fundamentally misandrist and makes up shit about men self-servingly.

>> No.18448147

>>18442369
>Nazis are bad and dumb and they hate women and they all eat poo poo
Thrilling analysis