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Thoughts on him and his philosophy /lit/?

>> No.18406336

>>18406332
The best postmodernist for sure

>> No.18406347

>>18406332
go back to your facebook meme page

>> No.18406638

based & based

>> No.18406784

>>18406332
I think he's cool

>> No.18406826
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18406826

>>18406332

We are living in the hyperreality, no doubt.

>> No.18406866

>>18406332
why is he so smug?

>> No.18406874

>>18406866
He's French

>> No.18407249

>>18406332
Literally ripping it off of Philip K. Dick.
Making it more obscure and sound more complicated than it actually is. Read any essay or a novel by dick and you'll see that the ideas presented in better form.

>> No.18407261

>>18406826
always were

>> No.18407401

>the holocaust didn't happen...

woah, wtf Jean.

>> No.18407408

He's right about everything

>> No.18407458

>>18407401
did he really said that?

>> No.18407500

>>18406826
Damn, now that's a great card to troll the fuck out of burn players, and it's impossible to play around it without fucking yourself over too.

>> No.18408179

>>18406332

His theories dont stand up to criticism but when hes not obscure his writing is really evocative, i think its this element that draws people to his work.

>> No.18408212

>>18407500
The language of "so far" is insane. Like, aren't most cards written these days as factional portions of a turn? Like, the idea of computing damage throughout the entire turn is insane.

>> No.18408229

>>18408212
The card is now interpreted as the card itself giving you life while dealing damage to one of your creatures, but you still have to keep track of life loss.
https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=1180

>> No.18408238

>>18408179
>His theories dont stand up to criticism

Which criticisms? I'm legit curious.

>> No.18408925

Completely fascinating and completely unreadable.
Only pseuds will pretend he's comprehensible

>> No.18408940

Good and bad. The former might outweigh the latter but there’s a reason he sorta fell off toward the end

>> No.18408945
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18408945

>>18408925
It's just a spin on Platonism. So I guess you didn't start with the meds, or take your greeks

>> No.18409907

He holds up much better than most contemporary writers. He didn't have much of a systemic vision but he sure was able to point out many relevant contradictions.

>> No.18410447

>>18408945
is plato truly the start and the end of philosophy?

>> No.18410463

>>18410447

Plato made philosophy readable and relatable. Artistotle turned philosophy into a serious and systematic endeavor.

>> No.18410472

>>18410463
Which is better in the long run?

>> No.18410496

>>18410472
Going outside

>> No.18410505

>>18410472

I don't know. But Baudrillard wrote more like Plato. His books are pretty engaging. Also, the titles are incredibly striking:

- The System of Objects
- Screened Out ("Ecran total", literally "The Total Screen")
- The Perfect Crime

>> No.18410942

>>18408945
Baudrillard is the literal opposite of plato

>> No.18410950

>>18410942

He brought some Plato-like joy into philosophy but he was incapable of going beyond what he called the "death of reality".

>> No.18411320

>>18410950
yes, this is precisly my point. In plato we have this world of perfect ideas that exists behind and beyond the mere material world.

In Baudrillard the death of reality and the death of meaning in hyperreality it is shown that this "true world" or the truth that would hide behind simulation never existed.

In Baudrillard we have a material reality devoid of any intrinsic meaning, it is given meaning through its representation in various signs and symbols. Eventually these symbols create systems of meaning, such as science or christianity or whatever, they create various "realities".

Eventually these systems grow so large they eventually only start refering to themselves, not to reality. This is the death of reality, and with it the death of the idea that there would be any meaning in the ideal world hidden behind abstraction and symbols.

Baudrillard is a anti-gnostic thinker.

>> No.18411396

>>18411320

Still, we can clearly see that B doesn't approve of this turn of events. It's just that he genuinely didn't know how to bring back Meaning in its fullness.

>> No.18411585

>>18409907
This

>> No.18411852

I really like the matrix movies

>> No.18411887

>>18411852
Didnt he say that matrix didnt really get his ideas?

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18411903

>>18406336
>postmodernist
When will autodidacts learn?

>> No.18411964

>>18411887
they tried to incorporate more of his idea in the sequels, they even tried to get him to work with them on it but he refused

>> No.18412104

>>18406332
I have never understood how his theory actually applies to anything, only seen a few examples but nothing to general

>> No.18412162

I don't know much about his theory but his brilliant ake on 9/11 made mass media journos seethe back in the day so he's based in my book.

>> No.18412191

>>18411320
sounds like Nietzsche

>> No.18412226

>>18406332
DISNEYLAND

>> No.18413125

>>18412162
>his brilliant ake on 9/11 made mass media journos seethe back in the day
tldr?

>> No.18413173

>>18406332
>dude disneyland lmao

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>> No.18413872

>>18410942
Baudrillard is just Plato's cave but becoming mesmerized by the shadows.

>> No.18413892

>>18413125
>9/11 was a symbolic exchange
>america bad terrist art
He was a retard.

>> No.18414464

>>18413125
>They have succeeded in making their own death an absolute weapon against a system that thrives on the exclusion of death, whose ideal is the slogan "zero deaths."
>If the situation is so characterized by the monopoly of a world power, if all functions are concentrated in the technocratic apparatus and in unitary thinking, what other way is left than a terrorist transfer of the situation? The system itself has created the objective conditions for this brutal counterattack.
>For the superpower, through its intolerable power, has not only fomented the violence that fills the world, but also - without knowing it - that terrorist imagination that resides in all of us.
>It is perfectly logical and inevitable that the constant increase of power of a force also increases the desire to destroy it. And this power is the accomplice of its own destruction.
note that this is translated from German to English so take it with a grain of salt. I could not bother to look up the original.