/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.18404204]

>And look at how he lived: a forty-year-old wife to do the cooking, a fifteen-year-old wife for whatever else …
Is this novel supposed to make me hate or love Islam? Because right now I am leaning towards the latter

[Anonymous No.18404208]

>>18404204
It's supposed to make you question the state of Europe, so you decide.

[Anonymous No.18404232]

>>18404204
polygyny creates incels

[Anonymous No.18404246]

>>18404232
Is that why the West is so full of them?

[Anonymous No.18404257]

>>18404246
Its equal around the world cunt. Try your racist b8 elsewhere edditor.

[Anonymous No.18404264]

You're supposed to think the protagonist is a depressed, opportunistic wastrel who would sell his soul to get his cock sucked.

[Anonymous No.18404275]

>>18404257
>Its equal around the world cunt
Exactly. Yet there are places with polygyny, which supposedly creates incels.

[Anonymous No.18404279]

>>18404264
>You're supposed to think the protagonist is a 4channer

[Anonymous No.18404297]

>>18404208
The state of Europe deprived me of my birthright. Allahu Akbar

[Anonymous No.18404300]

>>18404297
>Someone else is feeding him the juice
Based

[Anonymous No.18404319]

>>18404204
It's meant to tell you more about yourself than Islam, if the fantasy of dehumanizing women and abrogating their rights appeals to you it probably means you're pathetic scum. I mean you understand he's describing what is a very dated almost stone age society, right?

[Anonymous No.18404330]

>>18404319
>if the fantasy of dehumanizing women and abrogating their rights appeals to you it probably means you're pathetic scum
That's just that, a fantasy. Why do Westerners keep claiming other civilizations are dehumanizing when their people are so far removed from being humans they don't even want to have children - the most human of things?

[Anonymous No.18404339]

>>18404208
>It's supposed to make you question the state of Europe

I found it more tongue-in-cheek and playful than his other works where the doom and despondency that fuels him is more palpable.

[Anonymous No.18404342]

>>18404319
>I mean you understand he's describing what is a very dated almost stone age society
Islam isn't that advanced.

[Anonymous No.18404343]

>>18404330
>giving women rights and the ability to decide their future is forcing them to not have children
Do you have any idea how stupid you are?

[Anonymous No.18404355]

>>18404343
Empirically proven by unsustainable birthrates and women crying when their biological clock runs out

[Anonymous No.18404360]

>>18404343
Do you?

It's a scientific fact that "liberated" women are the unhappiest bunch of women in human history. (Which makes sense when you realize that "women's liberation" was something that was done to them, and not something they did.)

[Anonymous No.18404362]

>>18404355
The same women who cry about this in public are the same one's who promoted childness before and both times it was simply for attention. It's proof of nothing.

People always have fewer children and become less religious once they have a sustainable and prosperous western lifestyle. If you look at 3rd generation Muslims in Europe it's the same. It's a purely economic issue, when you have more options you....have more options. I bet you're an incel. It's always the most pathetic and spineless men who know they can't compete for women in a normal way who are in favor of regressing to primitive 'customs' to compensate for their own dicklessness while calling it the 'moral' thing to do. The west is in no danger of being depopulated.

[Anonymous No.18404366]

>>18404360
Science != picking and choosing from various clickbait and pop sci youtube videos to build up a 'world view' you agree with.

[Anonymous No.18404369]

>>18404204
A meme novel written by a literal incel with barely-hidden pedophilia in it, like every other Houellebecq book.
I read bits of "Les Particules Elémentaires" and it reads like the demented diary of an /r9k/ browser before his time. For some reason in one scene a grampa tries to masturbate to the sight of horny young gay men dry-humping each other on the beach of Paris Plage but can't get it up. Why?

>>18404208
it's about as accurate about the state of Europe than r9k is about women

[Anonymous No.18404372]

>>18404360
>>18404355
>it's empirically proven 3rd worlders are happier than westerners
>it's empirically proven that 3rd worlders want to come to the west for a better life
The cognitive dissonance from your type is staggering.

[Anonymous No.18404376]

>>18404319
>a very dated almost stone age society
I MUST.... I MUSTTTTT...... I MUST PROGRESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[Anonymous No.18404377]

>>18404376
>I posted a retarded wojack meme!
>that'll show 'em!

[Anonymous No.18404380]

>>18404204
god, imagine getting called 'darkly funny' by the fucking guardian... mortifying. houellebecq is such an alibi, but i guess the money doesn't hurt

[Anonymous No.18404382]

>>18404377
>I disregard Vico and everyone even remotely hesitant about radical enlightenment values and refuse to elaborate
>that will show 'em!

[Anonymous No.18404383]

>>18404362
Well, gee, when you put it that way, why should anyone interested in birth rates support democracy and capitalism at all? You make a case for open fascism, open state control of the economy, and open government opposition to liberal democracy and sexual liberation. If modern, Western society creates the familial and childbearing conditions we currently have... why support it? Why not oppose it, instead, and actively work for its downfall?

Why not become exactly the sort of reactionary monster that lives in every liberal democrat's nightmares, if that might potentially get you the flourishing birthrates you want?

[Anonymous No.18404387]

>>18404383
>You make a case for open fascism, open state control of the economy, and open government opposition to liberal democracy and sexual liberation.
Yes.
>Why not become exactly the sort of reactionary monster
Implying I'm not?

[Anonymous No.18404391]

>>18404377
>implying your shitpost where you call billions of people pathetic scum is any better

[Anonymous No.18404394]

I'm all for polygamy and the abolition of women's rights, but Houellebecq was wrong here, young arabs in France are getting assimilated, Islam won't ever rise to power.
t. frog

[Anonymous No.18404397]

>>18404383
Did you even read the post you're posturing as having replied to?
>Well, gee, when you put it that way, why should anyone interested in birth rates support democracy and capitalism at all?
The question should be why should anyone be 'very' interested in birth rates at all? As I said, the west is in zero danger of being depopulated. There's always more 1st and 2nd generation Americans for example, and they have more than enough children to remain above replacement. It takes a special kind of unintelligent loser to start ranting about fascism without even a real pretext for any of it.

[Anonymous No.18404400]

>>18404387
>>18404383
samefag

[Anonymous No.18404401]

>>18404369
>pedophilia
Marrying 15 year old isnt pedophilia you mentally ill mutt

[Anonymous No.18404404]

How come in these threads it's always the rightoids getting utterly btfo?

It happens every time.

[Anonymous No.18404410]

>>18404372
>>it's empirically proven that 3rd worlders want to come to the west for a better life
Says you. It's only societal rejects that couldn't make it in their own country that come to the West seeking their 'American dream'

[Anonymous No.18404437]

>>18404401
>why yes, I want to have sex with mentally undevelopped girls because I'm a failure of a man and a relationship with an equal scares me, how could you tell

[Anonymous No.18404439]

>>18404410
It's literally the reverse, immigration is an evolutionary check of sorts, it's typically the most able or affluent who manage to escape 3rd world shitholes. An amazing example of this are Nigerians, who completely outperform all other Africans in the US for this reason.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_capital_flight
Educate yourself and stop regurgitating ignorance, you're as wrong as it's possible to be.

[Anonymous No.18404447]

>>18404410
>I'm a failure and a reject
>that's how I bought I bought a plane ticket or a green card!
lolok

[Anonymous No.18404448]

>>18404439
>Being affluent means you aren't a social reject
Check yourself mutt with fawning over the elite

[Anonymous No.18404452]

>>18404447
I mean most people can't even afford food in these places so being able to buy a plane ticket...is that really impressive? That's like saying all of the immigrants coming here with academic scholarships or with specialized work visas aren't just total idiots! Duh.

[Anonymous No.18404453]

>>18404447
Tsk, I sold one of my eight year old to a wealthy sheikh.

[Anonymous No.18404458]

>>18404448
Are you the same retard talking about the need for fascism? The ressentiment here is palpable.

It used to be that a liberal was a power worshipper without power quoth Orwell. Now it's the reverse. It's losers who think they are awesome for completely rejecting a society they've already been rejected by. Wow you sure showed me you don't respect power, ability, or success...by seething over it.

[Anonymous No.18404463]

>>18404404
low IQ

[Anonymous No.18404464]

>>18404439
>Immigrants are all affluent and well educated we want them here
>Also immigrants are all rapists and criminals low scum
Typical westoid

[Anonymous No.18404468]

>>18404437
Nigger if I wanted to have sex with equals I would be fucking men

[Anonymous No.18404470]

>>18404464
strawman
maybe schizo
either way total non sequitur might as well be a bot replying

[Anonymous No.18404484]

>>18404468
That would be extremely gay

[Anonymous No.18404486]

>>18404404
Because leftoids send their best to become politicians and public influencers while the cream of the crop rightists are busy fucking their wives and running businesses so the debates end up with a few standard iq deviation difference between the sides which means that the smartest lefties end up spending their days arguing with bottom of the barrel magapedes, ultimately getting nowhere and wasting massive amounts of human potential for their side.

[Anonymous No.18404487]

>>18404468
Halfway there

[Anonymous No.18404489]

>>18404486
>Because leftoids send their best to become politicians and public influencers
>which means that the smartest lefties end up spending their days arguing with bottom of the barrel magapedes
Yes I'm sure Obama is right here in this thread arguing with magapedes

[Anonymous No.18404497]

>>18404489
Wouldn't surprise me desu. I bet he frequents trump threads.

[Anonymous No.18404498]

>>18404204
You're supposed to wonder if it's the start of a decline to change your religion for solely material reasons like wives, changing religions like one changes their underwear for comfort and ease.

[Anonymous No.18404501]

>>18404372
3rd worlders come to the west purely for money, my friend

[Anonymous No.18404514]

>>18404501
>money
They're too blind to see that that's all there is here

[Anonymous No.18404520]

>>18404498
>for comfort and ease
But wasnt this the reason religion was invented in first place? Without people thinking that was the reason of course, or else it wouldnt work.

[Anonymous No.18404521]

>>18404514
They aren't blind, they simply know what they want and leave when they get it

[Anonymous No.18404522]

I started getting into Huysmans cause of this book, reading la bas now, is pretty dope.

[Anonymous No.18404528]

>>18404520
Religion was invented as a structured way to communicate with the divine.

[Anonymous No.18404530]

>>18404520
Not quite, religion was invented to give meaning to the world, comfort and ease aren't necessary for that.

[Anonymous No.18404540]

>>18404437
>why yes, I want to have sex with mentally undevelopped^1 girls because I'm a failure of a man and a relationship with an equal^2 scares me, how could you tell
>(1): attractive, young, clean
>(2): ugly, old, used up

[Anonymous No.18404545]

>>18404528
I guess this is fair take if you are religious
>>18404530
But isnt finding meaning in the world comforting? Wouldnt promise of a better, fairer life put you at ease? I was mostly refering to that, and partly to the moral framework they provided (dont kill etc.), that also made life more bearable.

[Anonymous No.18404557]

>>18404484
For you

[Anonymous No.18404558]

>>18404437
what age do girls become mentally developed?
should the law be changed whereby only at that age we can have sex with them?

[Anonymous No.18404677]

>>18404204
Just started reading it in French. I'm getting a tad filtered but I think I'm doing well for the most part.

[Anonymous No.18404691]

>>18404677
Is it hard? Does it have a lot of slang?

[Anonymous No.18404702]

>>18404691
A little bit. There are some sentences my brain does not really process; I fear I might be missing some of the nuance. Still, I was able to read two other previous books of his so I think I'll manage. You probably can to, if that's what concerns you.

[Anonymous No.18404767]

>>18404343
>>giving women rights and the ability to decide their future
That’s funny because that’s exactly what the Koran did. In the Koran, God states that women should be able to use their inheritance as they wish, which basically means that they can define their own future. The man receives a bigger inheritance but he must spend it on his family, he doesn’t have a choice. The Koran also states that both Adam and Eve were at fault, which means that women are not seen as corrupting figures. So this alienation of women is a purely cultural thing which was then given a sort of religious legitimacy through “Hadiths”. Most of the reported claims associated to the Prophet and his companions are actually invented.

[Anonymous No.18404768]

>>18404204
Is this you, OP?

[Anonymous No.18404777]

>>18404767
>So this alienation of women is a purely cultural thing which was then given a sort of religious legitimacy through “Hadiths”. Most of the reported claims associated to the Prophet and his companions are actually invented.
First part was great then you ruined it with this with Hadith bashing. Theologically speaking, according to Quran men and women are equal. I don't see how the Hadiths take away from this and make women unequal.

[Anonymous No.18404790]

>>18404362
I'm not an incel, in fact i'm kissing my cute read-haired girlfriend atm.I had sex with more than 20 different woman sicne the beginning of the month, so...

[Anonymous No.18404798]

>>18404777
The Hadiths contain everything wrong with Islam. The worst Sunni scum (Isis, Al Qaeda etc.) rely mostly on the Hadiths (and sometimes on a decontextualized and literal reading of the Koran) to justify most of their backward ideas.

[Anonymous No.18404802]

>>18404767
I think it's written quran and not koran, by allah.

[Anonymous No.18404806]

>>18404802
Either way is fine in English. It's not like it's written in Arabic like it was originally intended

[Anonymous No.18404809]

>>18404798
>Blah blah terrorist blah
I don't care much for western propaganda. Hadiths are an important part of Islam.

[Anonymous No.18404815]

>>18404439
They love making deals, those Nigerians.

[Anonymous No.18404822]

>>18404767
>God states that women should be able to use their inheritance as they wish

That's because Arabia at the time of Muhammad was a society with extremely high rates of male death due to constant warfare, in societies like that (see also Spartans hamstringing themselves through being outbred by helots because of insanely rich Spartan women having no interest whatsoever in reproducing, or the case of Medieval Spain where constant warfare with the moors meant different laws of inheritance in comparison to other parts of Europe due to high likelihood of men dying in battle) women inheriting a lot of shit is the law, a necessity, rather than the sign of equality.

[Anonymous No.18404824]

No point in making another thread, where to start with Houellebecq?

[Anonymous No.18404830]

>>18404824
https://youtu.be/Kgjkth6BRRY
Start with this video

[Anonymous No.18404856]

>>18404824
The lovecraft essey

[Anonymous No.18404858]

>>18404498
>You're supposed to wonder if it's the start of a decline to change your religion for solely material reasons like wives, changing religions like one changes their underwear for comfort and ease.
Isnt this just true historically? The vast majority of converts always came from those seeking opportunity rather than metaphysical or theological arguments.

[Anonymous No.18404859]

>>18404802
Both are transliterations, Qur'an would be more correct but nobody uses it.

>>18404394
Assimilated or perverted? From what I see, their kids become NPC and embraces consumerism.

[Anonymous No.18404864]

>>18404859
>Assimilated or perverted? From what I see, their kids become NPC and embraces consumerism
Obviously assimilated if they became like all the other kids

[Anonymous No.18404878]

>>18404355
that story is fake anon

[Anonymous No.18404889]

>>18404369
/thread

[Anonymous No.18404898]

>>18404437
You are not supposed to marry an 'equal' moron, you marry a young healthy woman who will produce healthy children, that is the purpose of marriage.

[Anonymous No.18404923]

>>18404204
>By all means, Mr. Raghead, destroy any modicum of civilization and decency my society and its structures still have, I'm utterly incapable of finding a loving wife that will cook for me and give me sex so I need to sell my country to people who are so mentally underdeveloped they blow themselves up for their Sky Daddy

[Anonymous No.18404945]

>>18404355
>>18404383
>With an utter and complete shit economy caused by the governrment passing more market regulations, taxation and inflation that stunts the economical growth and people buying power, people are marrying later in life and having less children
>WOMEN BEING LIBERATED CAUSED THIS, I KNOW SO BECAUSE NO WOMAN WOULD ACTIVELY HAVE SEX WITH ME, IT'S LIKE THAT FOR ALL WOMEN TOWARDS ALL MEN
>WE NEED DADDY ESTATE TO FORCE WOMEN TO MARRY ME.. B-B-B-B-BECAUSE BIRTHRATES AND SHIT

[Anonymous No.18404969]

>>18404822
Nice explanation. But it’s wrong. Read what I said: women receive inheritance and are free to use it but they still receive less than men who have to use what they receive to sustain their families. It wasn’t necessary and it wasn’t the law before Muhammad’s revelation.
>>18404809
Found the Sunni scum.

[Anonymous No.18404994]

>>18404945
>people living in the richest countries have the fewest children, meanwhile those living in mudhuts still have 8+
>its the economy, if we were richer this wouldnt happen

[Anonymous No.18404998]

>>18404945
Why would you deny feminism is involved in this? We need to completely expel the savages, put the government in its place AND undo the social damage thats occurred since the 60's, these are not mutually exclusive goals

[Anonymous No.18405009]

>>18404994
He's saying government policy has led to a situation where one income is not enough to get a house and family.

[Anonymous No.18405018]

>>18404994
Latino Catholic and Arab Muslim cultures developed completely differently from White Anglo Saxon Protestant or Scandinavian cultures. People get used to a level of civilization comfort and will only have children if they are capable to feed them. In countries where people have become used to a quality of life that is utter and complete shit culture has become adapted to that, reproduction remains the same because there was never a huge drop in the economy.

[Anonymous No.18405023]

>>18404994
Poor countries, by necessity, give less valuebto human life as death is far more common. Thus, having more children is not as much of an issue since there isn't such a big fuss about a few dead children. More developed countries place more importance on the life of children, not just their survival, but also their quality of life. As a result, having children in developed countries is more economically and morally taxing. On top of that, developing countries' inhabitants cannot rely on retirement plans; having children is a necessity to insure their survival going into old age, whereas that is not (yet) an issue for social democracies.
The reasons for this reproductive divergence are diverse and complex.

[Anonymous No.18405026]

>>18405009
When has this been the case? My grandpa lived in a fucking farmshack during ww2 and still had 10 brothers and sisters. Increase in living conditions and fertility are negativly correlated if anything

[Anonymous No.18405063]

>>18405026
>WWII
>could go to the movies with 2 dollars
>80 years of inflation and increasing regulation and taxation later
>people are having children later in life and thus having less children

crazy....

[Anonymous No.18405126]

>>18404878
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7295837/Sex-City-writer-admits-regrets-choosing-career-having-children.html

[Anonymous No.18405215]

I wish I had a cute wife or 4.

[Anonymous No.18405293]

>>18405126
>unquestioningly believing anything in the daily mail
anon...

[Anonymous No.18405303]

>>18405063
now you have practically all the movies ever made available to you in the comfort of your own home for a few dollars

[Anonymous No.18405325]

>>18405303
We pay 9 dollars for a movie ticket nowadays. Nine dollars back then were equivalent to 147 dollars nowadays.

[Anonymous No.18405336]

>>18405063
I am euro. Maybe you americans had your golden age in 50s and 60s, but here living standards have definetely went up while fertility has gone down

[Anonymous No.18405600]

>>18404998
Because that is a retarded line of thought. Women are naturally geared towards maternal, home-making and child bearing instincts independent of any ideologies, which are only copes for the mentally ill to justify not having natural inclinations found in everyone else. The reasons are more insidious than that, more akin to structural fuckery caused by the government with the gentle added push of ideologies and copes for the population to accept them.

>>18405336
European experts often cite economic factors as being part if not the biggest factor in the decaying fertility rates in Europe, aside "lack of child care" and work life becoming more hectic.

[Anonymous No.18405730]

>>18404969
>Found the Sunni scum
Found the shia tranny

[Anonymous No.18405739]

>>18405215
ZOINKS JINKIES HUMANAN HUMANA LIKE SCCOB I'VE GOT A BONER RIGHT NOW

[Anonymous No.18405756]

>>18404264
blowjobs are just part of it. he would sell his soul to get a better life, also "sell a soul" is a fake thing. also, how is he opportunistic?

[Anonymous No.18405769]

>>18404824
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtiJQZTqu9M

[Anonymous No.18405782]

>>18404319
>Old is bad
Based retard

[Anonymous No.18405919]

>>18404204
I mean, look at the demographics in Europe. Muslims will probably take over countries like Sweden within the 2050s, and countries like France and the UK soon after. And to be honest, you can't blame them. If someone was offering their country to you, you'd be a fool not to take it. Muslims are the only intelligent group in this equation; history will remember modern non-Muslim Western Europeans as the stupidest group in all of human history.

[Anonymous No.18405977]

>>18405919
shouldn't worry about it anon, by 2070 the planet will be uninhabitable anyway

[Anonymous No.18406130]

>>18405919
Even if they suddenly wake up getting rid of the invaders would take a genocide at this point. Lots of people see the problem but are so weak they're more worried about being called racist than saving Europe.

[Anonymous No.18406190]

>>18404923
>you arent supposed to act in your own self-interest, what will happen to civilizational achievment of giving women, gays and trannies rights if muslims took over?

[Anonymous No.18406197]

>>18406190
>People shouldn't have their individual liberties because this goes against my neuroses, paranoias, individual sensibilities, internalized little traumas and cognitive biases, I wish big daddy government was here to forbid everything I don't like and give me a free gf

[Anonymous No.18406204]

>>18404824
Either Whatever or Atomised

[Anonymous No.18406205]

>>18406190
>Fuck civilization, I should only care about my virgin desires for pussy I can't satisfy for myself
>the trannies are destroying muh civilization, time to save it by giving it to a retard desert cult of goat fuckers

[Anonymous No.18406210]

>>18406205
>desert cult of goat fuckers
They were the guardians of Western civilization until they got wrecked by the Mongols, Ottomans, and Brits.

[Anonymous No.18406213]

>>18405730
I’m not a Shia either, retard.

[Anonymous No.18406219]

>>18406197
>>18406205
All I am saying is everyone is free to convert if he thinks it will be beneficial for him. You dont owe anyone shit. Stop projecting the rest of your garbage on me please

[Anonymous No.18406224]

>>18406213
Sufi? Ibadi?

[Anonymous No.18406248]

>>18404824
I've only read Elementary Particles, so I would suggest that. Good read and embodies a lot of his ideas.

I've heard Whatever is a good start, too.

[Anonymous No.18406293]

>>18404439
>immigration is an evolutionary check of sorts
are euros really smarter than us muslimbros?

[Anonymous No.18406348]

>>18404319
>Islam is from the Stone Age
Are people just historically illiterate these days? I’m astounded by how often I hear this

[Anonymous No.18406399]

>>18404319
>dehumanizing women
>abrogating their rights
>stone age

[Anonymous No.18406413]

>>18404397
>The question should be why should anyone be 'very' interested in birth rates at all? As I said, the west is in zero danger of being depopulated. There's always more 1st and 2nd generation Americans for example
We know the question is not about birthrates but about DEMOGRAPHICS.
Would you like to see an U.S.A. dominared by e.g. Chinks?
Would you still call it America?

[Anonymous No.18406443]

>>18404545
>But isnt finding meaning in the world comforting? Wouldnt promise of a better, fairer life put you at ease? I was mostly refering to that, and partly to the moral framework they provided (dont kill etc.), that also made life more bearable.
You're talking about religion (in an ample sense) while thinking only about Christianity. Go back.

[Anonymous No.18406516]

>>18406443
I must admit I never studied religion, but dont all abrahamic ones have similar concept of afterlife? Then there is also valhalla, hades and the rest... afterlife seems pretty common theme in religions.
Also all them have code of behavior ingrained in them for their followers to respect.

[Anonymous No.18406550]

>>18404397
>As I said, the west is in zero danger of being depopulated.

Fertility rates, globally, have been declining with each passing decade. You cannot forever continue to move people from point A to point B just to boost population numbers -- which tends to be a manifestation of consumerist ideology.

[Anonymous No.18406833]

>>18404232
>>18404246
>>18404257
>>18404369

friendly reminder tgat taking dicks up the ass isnt sex. that makes faggos the real incels

[Anonymous No.18406840]

>>18406399
lol a libtard would say those things

[Anonymous No.18406867]

>>18406219
The very first chapter of the novel itself makes it clear that if you get too involved only in your self interest and eschew the stability of the civilization you are part of, some day you'll be walking over corpses on your way to work.

[Anonymous No.18407007]

>>18404204

The whole novel is about how the people who are the loudest against the idea of an Islamic theocracy are probably the ones who would like living in it the most. It's a pretty one joke story.

[Anonymous No.18407011]

>>18405919
we work to make it happen, pray for our success

[Anonymous No.18407012]

>>18404369
>Houellebecq
>incel
He's been married multiple times. Even has a kid.

[Anonymous No.18407290]

>>18406413
better than being run by skaven, orcs and libtards

[Anonymous No.18407428]

>>18406224
Mu'tazilite

[Anonymous No.18407532]

What will you do? Pay Yizia? Convert? Move? Die?

[Anonymous No.18407775]

>>18404319
Hello roastie toastie. :D

[Anonymous No.18407921]

Islam will never be the proper main religion of the west. The muslims that come here, their children are westernized. They smoke, they drink, they whore around, the only thing they don't do is eat pork. I don't think that there will be any sharia shit going around here.

[Anonymous No.18407993]

>>18407921
>smoke

Odd since the vast majority westerners no longer do so.

[Anonymous No.18408013]

>>18407921
is it ok to jerk off on lit?

[Anonymous No.18408024]

>>18404489
Obama is a leftist?
Since when?

[Anonymous No.18408028]

>>18405215
i want to fuck her with my dick