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What is the importance of beauty and form in art?

>> No.18399107

>>18399076
It reflects the divine geometry of the cosmos.

>> No.18399157
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>>18399076
>At any time between 1750 and 1930, if you had asked educated people to describe the aim of poetry, art, or music, they would have replied, “beauty.” And if you had asked for the point of that, you would have learned that beauty is a value, as important as truth and goodness. Then in the twentieth century, beauty stopped being important. Art increasingly aimed to disturb, to break moral taboos. . . . Not only has art made a cult of ugliness, architecture, too, has become soulless and sterile. And it’s not just our physical surroundings that have become ugly. . . I think we are losing beauty, and there is a danger that with it we will lose the meaning of life.

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Beauty is rooted in divinity. We hold up that which is beautiful because it holds a spark of divinity. Even things that are not conventionally beautiful can possess beautiful qualities due to the divine spark.

Anything which lacks divinity inherently lacks beauty. Those that would lift up such things as beautiful which are clearly not do so out of an abundance of envy and loathing which are the antithesis of beauty and divinity.

>> No.18399173

>>18399157
Dangerously based
But how do we save the concept or value of beauty? Where do we find it in these modern times?

>> No.18399175

>>18399157
The Screw-Dog don't miss.

>> No.18399177

>>18399157
>>18399168

Niggas drooling over some dead guy's fap material

>> No.18399181

>>18399173
Hitler tried, and just look what the International Bankers did to him.

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>>18399076
>The last sunset flush of artistic idealising of the Christian dogma had been kissed by the morning glow of the reviving Grecian art-ideal: but what could now be borrowed from the ancient world, was no longer that unity of Greek art with Antique religion whereby alone had the former blossomed and attained fruition. We have only to compare an antique statue of the goddess Venus with an Italian painting of the women chosen to impersonate this Venus, to perceive the difference between religious ideal and worldly reality. Greek art could only teach its sense of form, not lend its ideal content; whilst the Christian ideal had passed out of range of this sense-of form, to which the actual world alone seemed henceforth visible. What shape this actual world at last took on, and what types alone it offered to the plastic arts, we will still exclude from our inquiry; suffice it to say that that art which was destined to reach its apogee in its affinity with religion, completely severing itself from this communion— as no one can deny—has fallen into utter ruin.

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>>18399076

>> No.18399201

>>18399157
What is his best book on this subject?
I saw his documentary but never read him.

>> No.18399203

it's 27% important

>> No.18399225

>>18399201
Beauty: A very short introduction
The aesthetics of architecture
On modern culture
I also like his books about the sacred like The soul of the world.

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>>18399173
>So I asked myself: What does this mean? Why should people want to desecrate the human form and the ordinary ideals of human life? And I say, you only desecrate what is sacred. Only something sacred can be desecrated. So there’s this cry from the heart here for the religious meaning of things. It’s showing the yearning for God and the sense that these things make no sense without him.

>> No.18399353

>>18399157
>>18399230
This is just stating the obvious. Read a real philosopher like Ruskin if you want to understand this in-depth.

>> No.18399379

>>18399230
>>18399157
What is his definition of beauty?

>> No.18399390

>>18399076
test

>> No.18399415

>>18399353
>Ruskin
What's he say?

>> No.18400818

>>18399157
Beauty is merely an imperfect predictor for utility, but retards get to caught up in it that they think beauty is the end and sacrifice utility for beauty.

>> No.18400835

Goethe thread.

>> No.18400839

>>18399173
shits supposed to be instinctual. You're NGMI if you even have to ask this. Just be soulful and appreciate beauty

>> No.18400840

>>18400839
What's beauty?