Where do I start

[Anonymous No.18392752]

ok so i'm pretty new to literature but how and where do i unironically "start with the greeks"?

[Anonymous No.18392768]

>>18392752
Pre-Socratics. But since nothing but fragments from them remain you can't start with them and can never gain a true understanding of philosophy.

[Anonymous No.18392772]

Elucidate with the Economists

[Anonymous No.18392776]

Hegal

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[Anonymous No.18392899]

>>18392752
>how and where do i unironically "start with the greeks"?

Don't -- just read whatever you want

[Anonymous No.18392919]

>>18392752
Starting with Greeks is retarded. Read them later.

[Anonymous No.18392953]

>>18392752
If you’re legit new to reading you shouldn’t start with ancient philosophy and epic poems. Do some research and decide what’s interesting to you. Don’t do too much research that you go into books with preconceived ideas tho, jump in and take what you can

[Anonymous No.18392954]

>>18392752
Plato > Aristotle > Parmenides/Heraclitus > other presocratics that interest you > optional but recommended: Stoics/Epicureans > The Light and the Cave by Arthur Hermann. Then choose where you want to go next. I recommend German Idealism but after you should start on modern philosophy like Analytic or Continental.

You don't have to read their whole bibliography. Just read enough to get their metaphysics.

[Anonymous No.18392961]

>>18392752
Depends what you're interested in. Literature in general or philosophy.

[Anonymous No.18392969]

[Anonymous No.18392974]

>>18392969
This

[Anonymous No.18392977]

>>18392969

[Anonymous No.18393081]

>>18392752
Depending on how old you are, you should start with a book that is close to your own taste. If you like fantasy, so go with the kind of fantasy you like but on books, and so on.
The greeks are a truly valuable source of knowledge and education, within our occidental work; nonetheless, they are worthless insofar most of what they said were wrong. There is just a few things concerning the greeks that are still relevant, but you wouldn't be capable to extract them from the books, since they require a lot of extra knowledge.
So far so good, the earlier you start your lit journey, the early your singular lit experiences will appear.

[Anonymous No.18393116]

>>18392752
Start with the Cavemen.

[Anonymous No.18393150]

>>18392752
Only a couple books you need really:
Iliad by Homer (Fitzgerald or Chapman)
Odyssey by Homer (Fitzgerald or Chapman)
Oresteia by Aeschylus
The Complete Plays of Sophocles
The Histories by Herodotus
History of the Peloponessian War

Thats it. You're done

[Anonymous No.18393169]

>>18393150

After this, resume with the Romans with a few books:
Livy's History of Rome
Tacitus' Annals of Roman History
Plutarch's Parallel Lives
Virgil's Aeneid
Ovid's Metamorphoses

[Anonymous No.18393183]

>>18392954
>anon says start with the greeks
>he thinks it means starting with Plato rather than starting with Homer

[Anonymous No.18394008]

>>18392969
all my homies hate Hamilton lame ass mf cant write shit

[Anonymous No.18394034]

>>18392977
this is prob best

>>18392969
tried this chart and to start off with Hamilton sets the wrong impressions I feel she is dry

[Anonymous No.18394049]

This book also encompasses almost of 1000 pages of the western philosophy and has gotten good feedback if you feel reading one book instead of 30. I have it, it is good

[Anonymous No.18394053]

>>18392752
Depends on what you're interested in?