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18390524 No.18390524 [Reply] [Original]

For me, it's the judge.

>> No.18390550

>>18390524
Elijah in the Bible

>challenges a literal army of Baal worshipers to fire summoning duel
>dares them to summon fire
>they fail
>taunt them asking if their God is busy not existing or taking a shit
>immediately summons enormous ball of fire
>bans Baal worshipers out of town forever
>acts like it was nothing

or David

>challenges giant man to martial duel
>proceeds to do his time and age's equivalent of challenging someone to a MMA showdown, whipping out a M1911 mid-fight and shooting the guy to the face
>beheads him with his own sword which he proceeds to keep
>never pays taxes again

or Nathan

>dares to face David and tell him he is wrong for cucking a man just because he is a foreigner

or St George

>fought a Dragon

or Jacob

>Wrestled an angel

>> No.18390553

>>18390550
notice how none of this happens irl

>> No.18390562

>>18390524
what bad thing does he do?
glanton is a lot worse.

>> No.18390563
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>>18390524
The Judge terrifies me.

>> No.18390568

>>18390553
Go tip fedora somewhere else homo, we are talking literature in here. And for the record, Baal worshipers existed, so did Goliath, David and Nathan.

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>>18390524
For me, its DA ZOOOOOOOOOOOS

>> No.18390658

>>18390524
nikolai vsevolodovich stavrogin

>> No.18390705

>>18390562
Are you fucking stupid Holden literally rapes children

>> No.18390780

>>18390553
Hilarious take, but its time to go to school hunny

>> No.18391002

Doctor Benway

>> No.18391102

>>18390550
Capeshit tier.

>> No.18391179

Well, that's a hard question...
But I personally think Eneas (I don't know how to write it in english and I'm too lazy to look this up now).
Eneas had a lot of responsabilities on his back, and he did everything that was needed to make it to the end.
He was a real man.

>> No.18391189

>>18390550
>St. George
I don't think he was in the bible...

>>18390553
The thread is about literature moron, not history.

>> No.18391199

Oedipus, obviously.

>> No.18391204

achilles obviously

>> No.18391219

Herakles

>> No.18391840

>>18390562
drown those heckin good boi pupperinos

>> No.18391932

>>18390705
did he rape the indian boy they picked up after the raid?

>> No.18391968
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>>18390524
The unknown God 'gainst whom struggled Captain Ahab...
>“Hark ye yet again—the little lower layer. All visible objects, man, are but as pasteboard masks. But in each event—in the living act, the undoubted deed—there, some unknown but still reasoning thing puts forth the mouldings of its features from behind the unreasoning mask. If man will strike, strike through the mask! How can the prisoner reach outside except by thrusting through the wall? To me, the white whale is that wall, shoved near to me. Sometimes I think there's naught beyond. But 'tis enough.”

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>>18391840
The reaction against dogs because it's "reddit" is even more embarrassing. What true man is not moved by the loyalty of Argos? Who is not saddened by poor Guinefort slain in error?

>> No.18391985

>>18390562
Glanton was impressed by the color of a leaf and was mad at the retard's brother for putting him on display for money. He wasn't completely soulless.

>> No.18392271

>>18390550
>not naming Samson
ngmi

>> No.18392307

>>18392271
Too obvious

>> No.18392323

>>18391985
Question: why does the judge care for the idiot above all others? I know there’s something symbolic in their relationship but I can’t figure out what it is.

>> No.18392325

Maldoror
He's just like me man

>> No.18392327

>>18390562
glanton just hates niggers, what’s so evil about that

>> No.18392342

>>18390524
Voldemort

>> No.18392348

>>18392323
Personally I think it’s simple and the answer is in the line “Whatever exists, he said. Whatever in creation exists without my knowledge exists without my consent.” The Judge is basically a control freak and likes the idiot because he can master him. He kills the Kid because the Kid defies him.

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Bunny Corcoran, to whom I relate to more intensely than I'm proud to admit, and who did nothing wrong for the record.

>> No.18392389

>>18390705
that was the kid you fucking retard

>> No.18392715

>>18391968
My McKenna fan detector is off the charts! Was thinking about this earlier today

>> No.18392819

>>18392348
That’s an interesting take but control rings false for me. I see it something as the simplicity and primal nature of the idiot. The judge is a primal force of humanity and the idiot is humanity in its most primal form.

>> No.18393685

>>18390524
Lancelot and it's not even close

>> No.18393739
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>>18391976
>NOOOOOO NOT MY FLOOFBOI
>NOT MY FOUR-LEGGED FRIENDERINO
>NOT MY BORKIN' BUDDY

>> No.18393755

>>18392348
>The Judge is basically a control freak and likes the idiot because he can master him. He kills the Kid because the Kid defies him.
What a midwit take. His hatred for him goes far deeper than that. "Was it always your idea, he said, that if you did not speak you would not be recognized?"

>> No.18393796

>>18390553
Good thing OP asked for literary examples

>> No.18394997

>"Don't you know I'd have loved you like a son? "
what did he mean by this? was he being sarcastic?

>> No.18395092

>>18394997
He saw the kid as another kindred, primal force of nature freak but the difference was the kid could turn it off when not needed and even had genuine compassion for others.

>> No.18395451

>>18391932
No he rapes his little sister after hiding in the closet from his parents, then sodomizes her as she grabs a gold ring

>> No.18395588

>>18390658
Reading that now. Only about 130 pages in...so far he's pulled around an old guy by his nose, felt up the host's wife in front of the whole party, and (maybe) is being blackmailed for diddling some guy's sister. I've heard things take a turn so I'm looking forward to him earning the distinction you've just awarded him.

>> No.18395638

>>18395092
I think more than that he saw the kid as a young impressionable mind who was basically a blank canvas (he has literally no personality besides occasionally spitting and saying “you’re crazy”) that he could mold in his own image, but the kid rejected him

>> No.18395689

>>18395588
There is a deleted chapter that most editions include at the end. It explains a lot

>> No.18395737

>>18392323
I always thought the idiot fascinated the Judge. The Judge couldn’t understand

>> No.18395765

Can someone explain to me why holden raped his sister, phoebe

>> No.18395766
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>>18390524
Take your pick.

>> No.18395803

>>18395766
Diomedes, just generally badass as fuck
>wounds Aphrodite
>makes Ares run away from the battle like a bitch
>Trojans more afraid of him than of Achilles
>fully mortal
>Saves Nestor from Hector when everyone abandons him, gives Hector a beating and almost kills him with not for Apollo intervening

Truly the baddest motherfucker in the Illiad

>> No.18395811

>>18395765
He was raped about 20 times by his dad.

>> No.18395860

>>18395811
where did the rape shitpost came from. Can't find in the archives

>> No.18395907

>>18395860
>If you really want to hear about it, the first thing you'll probably want to know is where I was born, an what my lousy childhood was like, and how my parents were occupied and all before they had me, and all that David Copperfield kind of crap, but I don't feel like going into it, if you want to know the truth. In the first place, that stuff bores me, and in the second place, my parents would have about two hemorrhages apiece if I told anything pretty personal about them. They're quite touchy about anything like that, especially my father. They're nice and all--I'm not saying that--but they're also touchy as hell.
>Boy, I was shaking like a madman. I was sweating, too. When something perverty like that happens, I start sweating like a bastard. That kind of stuff's happened to me about twenty times since I was a kid. I can't stand it.
Have you read the book?

>> No.18395922

>>18395907
There was a moment like that but it wasn't explicitly told he had sexual contact with his sister

>> No.18395932

>>18390524
Hogg

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>> No.18395946

>>18395689
Yeah, the edition I have includes it as an appendix. It's Chapter IX from Part 2; should I read it after I've finished the book or jump to it when I'm at that part?

>> No.18395975

>>18390550
Simeon and Levi

>massacre/looted a whole town in revenge of their sister

Phinehas

>pierced two people for having sex out in the field

>> No.18396014

>>18395941
Kill yourself as soon as possible.
Bet you are too coward to do it.

>> No.18396157

>>18396014
You go first.

>> No.18396177

>>18396157
I'm not the one who wants to do it.
Plenty left for me to do.
Do what you know you must.

>> No.18396182

>>18395737
Interesting take
>judge collects and documents new discoveries
>destroys them once he is satisfied that he understands
>can’t understand the idiot therefore never hurts him
Cool insight, thanks

>> No.18396207

>>18396177
I'm not even the same guy. You just seem like a pathetic dick and I was hoping...you know, two birds one stone.

>> No.18397753

>>18395922
>twenty times
https://files.catbox.moe/yukmqt.pdf

>> No.18399052

>>18390658
Shootin dudes jaws off, rapin children, marrying crippled retards for the lolz

>> No.18399060

>>18395946
When you're at that part. Its important

>> No.18399136

>>18390550
>challenges giant man to martial duel
Goliath challenged Israel though, David just answered his taunting.

>> No.18399475

Beowulf. The guy tore a demon's arm off, impregnated another demon and fathered a dragon that he then slays

>> No.18399519

>>18395941
Stupid niggerfaggot

>> No.18399580

>>18390524
me desu

>> No.18399737

>>18390550
Saint George isn't real. He's just a Catholic story.

>> No.18399863

>>18390524
Satan duh