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>A certain gesture of manliness, be it one’s own, be it that of another, deserves mistrust. It expresses independence, surety of the power of command, the silent conspiracy of all men with each other... The archetype for this is the good looking man in a smoking jacket, who enters his bachelor’s pad alone one late evening, turns on the indirect lighting, and pours a whisky-soda: the carefully recorded fizzing of the mineral water says what the arrogant mouth does not; that he despises whatever does not smell of smoke, leather and shaving cream – above all, women, and for that very reason they swarm all over him. For him, the pinnacle of human relations is the club, the site of a respect founded on a considerate inconsiderateness. The joys of such men, or on the contrary of their models, which hardly anyone alive really matches, for human beings are always better than their culture, have altogether something of the latent act of violence. By all appearances, this is threatened to others, though he has long since had no need to do so, sprawled on his easy chair. In truth it is past violence against himself. If all pleasure sublates earlier displeasure [Unlust], then here displeasure is raised – as pride in bearing it – unmediated, untransformed, stereotypically into pleasure: unlike wine, every glass of whiskey, every puff on the cigar still recalls the reluctance, which it must have cost the organism, to accustom itself to such powerful stimuli. According to their own constitution, the he-men would thus be what they are usually presented as in film scripts, masochists. The lie is concealed in their sadism, and it is as liars that they truly become sadists, agents of repression. That lie is nothing other than repressed homosexuality, which emerges as the only approved form of what is heterosexual. In Oxford one can differentiate between two kinds of students: the “tough guys” [in English in original] and the intellectuals; the latter are equated almost without further ado to those who are effeminate. There is a great deal of evidence that the ruling class polarizes itself according to these extremes on the road to dictatorship. Such disintegration is the secret of integration, of happiness of unity in the absence of happiness. In the end the “tough guys” [in English in original] are the ones who are really effeminate, who require the weaklings as their victims, in order not to admit that they are like them. Totality and homosexuality belong together. While the subject falls apart, it negates everything which is not of its own kind. The opposites of the strong man and the compliant youth fuse into a social order, which unreservedly asserts the masculine principle of domination. By making everyone, without exception – even presumed subjects – into its objects, it recoils into total passivity, virtually into what is feminine.

What did he mean by this?

>> No.18376184
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>> No.18376186

>>18376184
kek

>> No.18376197

disgusting.
not to talk about his deformed jewish body.

>> No.18376308

In which book does Adorno talk about pop music?

>> No.18376325

>>18376171
Such pure cope.

>> No.18376580

>>18376171
apt for a bitch nigga

>> No.18376722

This is embarrassing t b h

>> No.18376754

incel tier seething desu

no need to interpret every word that comes out of a thinkers mouth

>> No.18376764

>>18376171
Sounds like he got bullied and turned it into a fetish.

>> No.18376787
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18376787

There are a shocking amount of people on /lit/ that champion him as some sort of savior/defender of the west

>> No.18376867

>>18376171
Is there more on men?

>> No.18376879

>>18376787
Really? I've never heard this claim before.

>> No.18376976

HOT GUYS ARE MEANIES!!! Oh yes why hello i an smart please have sex with me

>> No.18376992

reads like hes talking about himself but too much of a coward to admit it lol

>> No.18376995

>>18376879
The marxists push the meme that Adorno and others were against the degeneracy of capitalism, and that the right would fundamentally agree with their diagnoses.
What this ignores is that the marxists really only come to these positions through critique, not the defense of values. In other words, the positions are incidental, related to the critique of machine devaluation, but not necessarily degeneracy itself.

Because of the very nature of materialism, ots focusnon the technical aspects or incidentals, the marxist critique of degeneracy weakens over time. It becomes lost in organisational concerns. Hence Camatte as a defense of the original Marxist position, while also turning against marxist organisation itself. He rightfully pointed out the liberalism of the Frankfurt School.

>> No.18377018

>>18376171
Lemme sum-up:
If you're not acting like a pussy you might be a fag.

>> No.18377746

>>18376171
Seems to me quite close to the truth

>> No.18377782

>>18376171
What the fuck is this cope, I don't understand a word of it

>> No.18377899

TLDR: The guys who act masculine are repressed homosexuals and also fascists.

>> No.18378079

>>18377899
Do you know what he would call authentic masculinity then?

>> No.18378102

>>18378079
the ones who sit like bitches wearing a one piece

>> No.18378104

>>18377899
Did Adorno write a single sentence that wasn't about him dealing with the fact that fascism lived rent free in his head?

>> No.18378265

>>18376976
yeah femanon here total turn on when a man is a braindead imbecile. "the dumb ones always pound the hardest"

I saw a guy in a tank top lick his phone yesterday on the subway and I can't stop thinking about him. the way his shoulder muscles rippled as he lifted the device to his mouth made me instantly wet myself.

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Just look at his psycho jew eyes

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>>18378265
>yeah femanon here

>> No.18380913

What a Chad.