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18359687 No.18359687 [Reply] [Original]

this man is ruining my life with his autistic ramblings. what if he's right?

>> No.18359711
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18359711

take the kshatriya pill anon

>> No.18359721

>>18359711
how am i supposed to become a respectable warrior nowadays? sign up to get blown up for israel or something?

>> No.18359737

>>18359721
>>18359687

You're too low IQ to read Evola

>> No.18359740

>>18359721
join isis

>> No.18359752

>>18359721
Buddha wasn’t even a respectable warrior but he ran away from his duties, exactly what Krishna fold Arjuna not to do in the Gita

>> No.18359753

>>18359740
no
>>18359737
why

>> No.18359768

>>18359687
He is right

>> No.18359902

>>18359711
>kshatriya
Kek, Buddha was from a slave caste(according to Aryan's Law).

>> No.18359904

>>18359752
Krishna and Buddha were both Vishnu's avatars.

>> No.18359907
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18359907

>>18359711
This

>> No.18359997

>>18359687
>what if he's right?
he is, on everything.

>> No.18360016

>>18359687
>what if he's right?
Don't about his other philosophy but he advocated for antinatalism, which is cool.

>> No.18360020

>>18359904
According to the Puranas which say that, Vishnu didn’t incarnate as Buddha to spread spiritual truths like with Krishna, but rather Vishnu did so to spread false teachings in the form of Buddhism that would subdue some demons and make them lose their powers. This is probably why in the Kalki Purana it says that one of the first things Kalki will do upon returning is to kill all Buddhists, they are NPCs who fell for a false doctrine that was designed by Vishnu to fool demons.

>In order to defeat the demons ( daityas ) who had succeeded in obtaining great powers through religious austerities, Visnu came down to earth disguised as an ascetic and began teaching doctrines contrary to the Vedas. First, disguising himself as the founder of the Jaina school, he taught the doctrine of anekāntavāda (perspectivism or “non-one-sidedness”) to the group of demons. Then, moving on to another group, he changed his outfit and, appearing as the Buddha, taught that animal sacrifices are immoral and so forth. By this means, the demons lost all of the powers they had attained, and were summarily massacred by the gods.
>This story is remarkable because it accomplishes two goals simultaneously. First, it manages to subsume Buddhism and Jainism under orthodox Brahmanism, by demonstrating that both Mahāvīra (if that is indeed who is portrayed—he is nameless in the Visnu Purāna ) and the Buddha were incarnations of Visnu. Second, it completely discredits the actual content of the doctrines of these two sects, by suggesting that the teachings of Buddhism and Jainism are intentionally false and nonsensical. The dupes are the Buddhists and Jainas, who do not understand that the source of all of the teachings they defend so vehemently is a divine trick.

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>>18360020
>tfw buddhism was a divinely controlled psyop

>> No.18360070

>>18360016
Except that he didn't

>> No.18360097

>>18360020
Makes sense, considering Buddhism attracts atheists and stupid Westerners who think they are too good for Christianity.

>> No.18360101

I'd be more interested in Hinduism if I weren't outside the caste system and thus a piece of shit by default.

>> No.18360105

>>18360101
a piece of shit can still attain moshka

>> No.18360202

>>18360101
Hinduism doesnt say that people outside the caste system are shit, I’m not sure where this misconception comes from. Non-Indians can and have been initiated into many schools of Hinduism before and treated as respectable members thereof, everything from Ramanuja’s Sri Vaishnavism to many different kinds of Shaktism and Shaivism.

>> No.18360204

>>18359687
Wash the tigers penis
Do nothing
Bad ass revolt in your mind

>> No.18360211

>>18360043
The truth is...
The game was poo'd from the shart

>> No.18360219

>>18360204
i mean if you believed everything this guy said what would you do instead?

>> No.18360284

>>18360204
>"Do nothing"
confirmed pleb
I'd say it's retarded to mock someone you've obviously never read, but this is /lit/ so it's
practically a requirement

>> No.18360311

>>18360284
Suck my chtonic Anubis schlong you modernite

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>>18360204

>> No.18360397

>>18359721
Join the crips or bloods.

>> No.18360534

>>18359687
I worry there may come a time when I am no longer able to chuckle at things like OP

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>>18360020
>This is probably why in the Kalki Purana it says that one of the first things Kalki will do upon returning is to kill all Buddhists, they are NPCs who fell for a false doctrine that was designed by Vishnu to fool demons.
Extremely priestly ressentiment/cope/seethe/sneed.

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>>18360750
this.

>> No.18361120

>>18359687
Read what he read rather than reading his work. That's what you should do.
Read the Greeks.
Read the Vedas.
Read the Neoplatonists.
Read the Scholastics and Mediaevals.
Read the Counter-Revolutionaries.

>> No.18361281

>>18359721
yes

>> No.18361717
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18361717

>>18359721
When there is no worthy outer jihad, take up the inner instead.

>> No.18361797

>>18361120
You forgot the Persians, Aztecs, Tibetans, Buddhists, Chinese, Japanese, Egyptians and Norse

>> No.18361829

>>18361797
Persians of course,
Same with Japanese, Buddhists and Tibetans
I don't think the Norse, Egyptians and Chinese let alone the Aztecs where that crucial for Evola's "weltanschauung"

>> No.18361845

>>18359687
So what does a person with PTSD from being molded by modern society do after reading this guy? Is there hope for people who's consciousness has been all but destroyed by modern forces in 2021 who seek to crush us?

>> No.18361883

>>18359711
>>18359904
>>18360020
Whites into Indian faggot shit are the most insufferable morons ever. Leave the third world religion for third worlders. Inb4 cope like it was muh aryans religion reeee

>> No.18362076

>>18361829
He cites the Tao te Ching regularly in all of his writings.
As for the other three, the only reason he doesn't utilize them more more is because they were extinguished in the course of history and no longer have any living tradition to be passed on, even as a mere shell. Egyptians, Aztecs and Norse all had their own mysteries and initiations before they were either converted, collapsed or wiped out. They are all mentioned however in his writings, especially Revolt. I went and conducted my own studies on the Aztecs to see if he was right to even include them, and it appears as though he was, although it was hard for me to find information on Aztlan. Tollan, however, is a major part of the mythology of Aztecs that has been found so far, which strongly aligns with his idea of polar symbolism.

>> No.18362111

>>18361120
I like the hermetic overtones he adds to those though.

>> No.18362228

>>18362076
I recall Evola mentioning the story of Quetzalcoatl returning from the West to signal the end times, which if I’m remembering correctly, he identified as the Spanish conquering Mexico. But I remember looking into that prediction and seems to of been a fabricated myth from colonial times rather than genuine Aztec tradition.

>> No.18362305

>>18360020
>but rather Vishnu did so to spread false teachings in the form of Buddhism that would subdue some demons and make them lose their powers. This is probably why in the Kalki Purana it says that one of the first things Kalki will do upon returning is to kill all Buddhists, they are NPCs who fell for a false doctrine that was designed by Vishnu to fool demons.

B-basado?

Which Puranas dicuss this?

>> No.18362313

>>18362228
>But I remember looking into that prediction and seems to of been a fabricated myth from colonial times rather than genuine Aztec tradition.
It's not quite that simple. Without saying too much, the fabricated parts of the myth are the aspects that transform Topiltzin-Quetzalcoatl (which is the immanent-transcendent hero figure, not the purely transcendent god) into a Jesus-like figure to conform with Christianity and helped to convert the native population without having to physically burn/demolish everything at once. There are genuine artifacts from far earlier than the Spanish conquest which give him the same empire-destroying-and-creating powers, and in particular they have calendar dates for his appearance which correspond to his "temperament." 1 Reed, which is approximately when Hernán Cortés arrived, was the historical date of destruction for the Aztecs (which is also the date of birth for Topiltzin-Quetzalcoatl). For the Aztecs originally, it was less an "end-times" thing as it was a "returning king" myth. They thought that Cortés was actually going to restore a heavenly empire. They were already aware that they were in the "fifth sun" period and that it would end with this event.

>> No.18362314

>>18359687
>named Evola like Evila
>looks like Dracula and wears a monacle
I'm not falling for that trick.

>> No.18362315

>>18362305
I mean which passages

>> No.18362316

>>18362315
>>18362305
>>18360020

Could someone recommend me the best Kalki Purana translation into English for someone who does not know Sanskrit? I mean the most in-depth English research/version of it with possible commentaries

>> No.18362317

>>18359721
"Subscribe to PewDiePie, lad"

>> No.18362326

>>18362316
Learn Sanskrit.

>> No.18362334

>>18362326
No. I rather have quality translation of the said text. It's not that I expect people to learn Finnish in able to read Kalevala in Finnish, but rather point out them to multiple good, different English translations.

>> No.18362340

>>18362334
Then you are a lazy brainlet.

>> No.18362347

>>18362340
Same way I could say to you. Even Tolkien who taught himself Finnish was not able tu unlock Finnish language fully.

Not only something like Kalevala is extremely archaic language, the expressions itself are alien to modern Finns itself. I would expect same to be true of Kalki Purana. There is absolutely no reason try to master some dead language like sanskrit on your own and then try to understand some subtle nyances of religious texts. The best part to understand the text is to aquire as many possible good quality English translations with commentaries by different authors and compare them, that way one can achieve the closest meaning to the original text.

>> No.18362351

>>18362347
>>18362340
That being said, basic understanding of the language DOES help and comparing the etymologies of some harder terms.

>> No.18362372

>>18362228
I forgot to clarify that it's not really clear what Moctezuma and most Aztecs really thought about the Spanish and Cortés initially, because the only records are from the Spanish themselves. That said, it's extremely strange that they would be invited into a walled and moated city with their army for a hostile confrontation.

>> No.18362568

>>18359687
he's not

>> No.18362571

>>18359721
sit in a wheelchair and write books about becoming a respectable warrior

>> No.18362887

>>18362571
If Roosevelt was fit to lead troops, then why not?

>> No.18362918

>>18362571
Imagine fighting in a war in your youth, spending free time climbing mountains, and then as an old man you're in a wheelchair.

>> No.18363094

>>18362918
>artillery officer
im sure he had a nice time behind all the fighting

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>>18359687
>OMG IS THAT LE EBIC EVOLA???? HE'S SO BASED AND REDPILLED, I'M A MODERN DAY WARRIOR SO I DONT PARTAKE IN YOUR HYLIC POLITICS *tips fedora*

>> No.18363195

>>18363177
nice selfie incel chud virgin loser neet gamer sneed and seethe

>> No.18363199

>>18359711
Cringe, if you’re going eastern go taoist pilled or at least zen Buddhist

>> No.18363213
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>>18359687
MFW I read that Ebola was an antinatalist

>> No.18363228

>>18363213
he had kids

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>>18359687
>Claims to be aristocrat.
>Is wearing a suit, the literal symbol of the merchant class that displaced the aristocracy in the french revolution.
>All opinions immediately discarded.

>> No.18363263

>>18359752
>Buddha wasn’t even a respectable warrior
He was a prince, a to-be-king. The royalty belongs to the warrior cast, this doesn't mean that they become bog standard foot soldiers.
Buddha's dharma was the regal function, bridging the earth with the eternal. Something he accomplished.

He is one of the purest examples of the pontifex that Evola discusses in Revolt.

>> No.18363270

>>18363228
BASTARD kids which he never owned because dick gloves weren't available at that time.
He told the aristocrats of the soul to don't have kids and don't raise a family in the these degenerate times in order to rise above degenerate humanity.

>> No.18363344

>>18359711
>kshatriya pill
>uses picture of kshatriya that forgoed his dharmic duties

>>18361883
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Aryan_migrations
https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/science/how-genetics-is-settling-the-aryan-migration-debate/article19090301.ece
Its not some conspiracy theory you retard

>>18363199
>why follow an aryan religion like hinduism when you can follow a completely oriental religion like taoism

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>>18363344
Buddha wasn't a kshatriya. He was from a slave caste according to Aryan Varna, pic related.

>> No.18363397

>>18363377
>fallen kshatriyas
>according to the brahmins

>> No.18363404

>>18363397
Sakas weren't scythians. This is an exaggeration at it's best.

>> No.18363472

>>18363213
>antinatalist
proof?

>> No.18363484

>>18363228
there is no hard evidence for that

>> No.18363492

>>18363484
Can I get a Snopes fact check on it?

>> No.18363506

>>18363492
That comes from a work called Julius Evola: The Sufi of Rome, wherein the author (a personal friend of Evola's, who thinks Evola was a closeted Sufi initiated by Guenon) relates a time when Evola showed him a letter from an Argentine woman claiming he was the father of her child. It's obviously impossible to verify

>> No.18363509

>>18359687
>what if he’s right?
Just ride the tiger bro (just do absolutely nothing)

>> No.18363519

>>18363472
>Evola in RtT: "I can not recommend marriage, since the institution has been thoroughly debased today and the climate makes it difficult if not impossible for a Traditional man to truly have a family that is "his own" and ensure that his biological heirs are also his spiritual heirs."

>> No.18363531

>>18363519
That's not anti-natalism, that's based

>> No.18363534

>>18363519
what the fuck

>> No.18363545

>>18363531
He is saying the aristocrats of the souls to don't marry and have kids. Antinatalists are also against procreation. In the end, his goal and their goal matches which is to refrain from procreation. One says world is spiritual ruin and other say world is ethical and material ruin.

>> No.18363552

>>18363377
Interesting but the Buddha is said to have blue eyes, obviously indicating high levels of aryan blood
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_characteristics_of_the_Buddha#The_32_Signs_of_a_Great_Man

>> No.18363582

>>18363552
The accounts of his psychical features are very weird. Some other Buddhist text says that his tongue was so big that it could cover his entire head.
Nonetheless I think its pathetic to argue about his identity rather than his teachings.

>> No.18363641

>>18361717
Based

>> No.18363675

>>18363263
>Something he accomplished.
Only if he had actually ruled instead of running away from his responsibility as ruler of whatever clan he was from, it’s not the dharma of the Kshatriya caste to renounce but they are supposed to excessive their function of rulership and warriorship, one can’t fully do so as a monk. It is the dharma of Brahmins to enter into renunciation, which is why Krishna tells Arjuna to fulfill his duty and to follow karma-yoga instead of renouncing possessions and becoming a monk, and Krishna is a higher authority on these matters than Evola. If all the Kshatriya run off to become ascetics then society falls into disorder when nobody is acting as the enforcer of order in temporal matters.

>> No.18363716

>>18363506
>Evola was a closeted Sufi initiated by Guenon
they never met in person, and you cant initiate someone via letters

>> No.18363742

>>18363716
>you cant initiate someone via letters
I wouldn't put that past Evola. He thought objects could be enchanted with transcendent powers which decay over time.

>> No.18363899

>>18363742
Yes but that would have required Guenons consent and participation, which he would have never assented to, being heterodox

>> No.18364019

>>18363582
>I think
That’s like your opinion dude. Tell it to someone who cares.

>> No.18364232

>>18359902
>a prince that was in line to inherit the throne of Kapilavastu
>slave
the mental gymnastics anti Buddhists do is mind blowing

>> No.18364271

>>18364232
>>18363377

>> No.18364277

>>18364019
He renounced his family and so called heritage for the sake of asceticism. Making a fuss about his identity is disrespectful towards him as Buddha.

>> No.18364394

>>18362568
He's nkt

>> No.18364458

>>18364277
Blinded by modern western prejudices (and perhaps inferiority complex/slave morality?), you regard race and social position as mere accidents of birth. Not so the ancient Indians (or any ancients for that matter). It is no small feat to be born an Aryan. On the other hand, the Buddha constantly stresses that bad karma leads to low birth, even as a dark-skinned shudra, an animal or a denizen of hell.

>> No.18364655

>>18364458
He wasn't an Aryan you stupid faggot.

>The Shakyas were an eastern sub-Himalayan ethnic group on the periphery, both geographically and culturally, of the eastern Indian subcontinent in the 5th century BCE.[13][14] Bronkhorst calls this eastern culture Greater Magadha and notes that "Buddhism and Jainism arose in a culture which was recognized as being non-Vedic".[15] According to Levman, the Shakyas were considered outside of the Āryāvarta and of ‘mixed origin’ (saṃkīrṇa-yonayaḥ, possibly part Aryan and part indigenous). The laws of Manu treats them as being non Aryan. As noted by Levman, "The Baudhāyana-dharmaśāstra (1.1.2.13–4) lists all the tribes of Magadha as being outside the pale of the Āryāvarta; and just visiting them required a purificatory sacrifice as expiation" (In Manu 10.11, 22).[13] This is confirmed by the Ambaṭṭha Sutta, where the Sakyans are said to be "rough-spoken", "of menial origin" and criticised because "they do not honour, respect, esteem, revere or pay homage to Brahmans."[16] Some of the non-Vedic practices of this tribe included incest (marrying their sisters), the worship of trees, tree spirits and nāgas.[17]
>According to Levman "while the Sakyans’ rough speech and Munda ancestors do not prove that they spoke a non-Indo-Aryan language, there is a lot of other evidence suggesting that they were indeed a separate ethnic (and probably linguistic) group."[18]

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>>18364655
>This is confirmed by the Ambaṭṭha Sutta, where the Sakyans are said to be "rough-spoken", "of menial origin" and criticised because "they do not honour, respect, esteem, revere or pay homage to Brahmans."
Keep seething, priests. Brought to you by warrior caste gang

>> No.18364684

>>18364655
Check your ressentiment, anon. Lest you be born as a resentful hyena in your next life.

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>>18363716
>they never met in person, and you cant initiate someone via letters
You can in mantra/tantrayana

>> No.18364715

>>18364682
>warrior caste gang
Kek, so you haven't read the whole thing? He was from a slave caste >>18363377

>>18364684
Damn I wish, Hyenas are cool as shit.

>> No.18364721

>>18364715
Are you missing the point where priests invent purity to justify their hierarchy?

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>>18359902
>>18363377


Again trying to say the Prince to the throne of Kapilavastu is hilarious
sorry sacred-texts.com isn't very credible in regards to anthropology
But assuming that text is true all it shows is that the Hindus were so ass blasted at the Buddha they wrote a burn book about him.
A lot like the jews did in the Torah

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>>18364655
wrong

>> No.18364733

>>18364721
Not, priests but Aryans invented purity.

>>18364722
>Aryans who wrote Manu isn't a credible source
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.18364754

>>18364733
>Not, priests but Aryans invented purity.
So what is going here—if you read between the lines—is that a central, swampy, priestly authority is denouncing the un-priestly manners of the hardy frontier elites of India, i.e. those furthest from their authority on the periphery, like the mountainoud clans Gautama Buddha was from, which the priests slander as being impure or degenerate, having no other recourse against the warrior aristocracy.

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18364768

were vaishyas generally aryan or non-aryan?

>> No.18364773 [DELETED] 

>>18364754
What the fuck you are talking about?
Aryans had their own warrior class. Every non-Aryan was impure for them.

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>>18359687
You know he was certainly right about Atlantis. The geological dating on the Sphinx puts it at around 10.000 BC at least.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbUsGnMUH2Y
The thing that sucks about Evola is everyone looks at his politics but not his metaphysics. His views on cyclical history and the male/female dualities are quite fascinating, and he sort of lets you see how the ancients minds worked. Despite never giving any empirical evidence, he strikes into something true.

>> No.18364797

>>18364782
Actually ignore that yt lin, because it was allowed on tv that sphinx documentary had a bunch of nonsense about aliens and stuff shoved in. This book I believe offers empirical evidence for Evola's views
https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=5C833B833533A9F9E1C123C3E497C356

>> No.18364801

>>18364768
Aryans have three castes: priest, warrior and farmer/merchant (see Indo-European tripartite hypothesis). That India has four instead of three is evidence that the shudra or servant caste belonged to the indigenous australoid substratum, and it was an addition to Aryan society. So yes, merchant gang is a-ok.

>> No.18364802

>>18359687
>>18364797
You know he was certainly right about Atlantis. The geological dating on the Sphinx puts it at around 10.000 BC at least.
The thing that sucks about Evola is everyone looks at his politics but not his metaphysics. His views on cyclical history and the male/female dualities are quite fascinating, and he sort of lets you see how the ancients minds worked. Despite never giving any empirical evidence, he strikes into something true.

>> No.18364810

>>18364801
I only ask because I heard a while ago that genetic studies dont support the view that vaishya were majoirty aryan, but I dont remember what evidence there was for this.

>> No.18364816

>>18364802
If you have a liberal a copy of metaphysics of sex without telling who wrote he would salivate. If you told him it was a fringe Dadaist artist, he/she/they would cream until they dehydrated.

>> No.18364820

>>18363228
>>18363270
>>18363506
I need to know more. I have always been curious about Evola's love life. I found it strange he never married, but I only read Revolt so idk as much as I should.

>> No.18364821

>>18364754
What the fuck you are talking about? Aryans had their own warrior class and every Aryan was Vedic. Everyone outside of Aryans were considered subhumans. Sakas were non-Aryan and followed a non-Vedic religion.

>> No.18364826

>>18364816
>he would salivate.
Why. Does he write about gays or trannies or something?
>If you told him it was a fringe Dadaist artist
He disowned Dada as decadent.

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>>18364729
There is no solid evidence linking them to the Scythians or Tocharians, people just make that conjecture on the basis of the similarity between the word sakya and scythian, but this is an extremely thin basis because the word Sakya also has its own meaning in Sanskrit, it’s kind of arbitrary to pick a word from thousands of miles away in a different region (Scythian) over one that is much closer geographically and culturally. The Aryan tribes lived in the northwest of India at this time and not in the eastern foothills that the Sakyas were from. It is kinda ridiculous to suggest that the Scythians could have made a huge migration through the mountains of Afghanistan and Pakistan, through the Thar deserts, passed through the populated areas of the Indus valley, and landed up all the way over in Eastern India without this migration being noticed and commented upon by anyone, and without there being any traces of Scythian language or culture in the eastern Indian that they supposedly migrated to. The answer that they came with the Achaemenid isnt very convincing either since the Persians only controlled parts of what is now modern day Pakistan and Punjab, they didnt get anywhere near Magada.

>> No.18364869

>>18364821
This is the problem with the word Aryan, is that it means different things to different people and they keep talking past each other. To some Aryan just means Indo-European-speaking people, then in that case Sakas were “Aryans”, but that was not the understanding of the Indo-Aryans. They wouldn’t call a people that didn’t worship the Rig Vedic gods and followed the Brahmanical system “Aryan”, not even the Iranians (which in their turn wouldn’t call the Indians Aryan either, because they called themselves Aryan). But we know that Sakas were Indo-European, even Iranic-speaking peoples, so in that sense, they could be called “Aryan”. Then to many “Aryan” means a Germanic or Nordic-looking person (that is the most prevalent sense in popular discourse today). This is the nature or words, that the meaning is context-dependent. So it depends on the definition.

>> No.18364889

>>18364869
>But we know that Sakas were Indo-European,
No, they were not. Read this >>18364655

>> No.18364925

>>18364889
Yeah, the scholarly consensus is that they were Indo-European.

>> No.18364943

>>18364925
Scythians were IE not Sakya >>18364840

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>>18364821
>>18364869
>>18364889
Look any time "scripture" says "my highly specific terrestrial rivals are poopoopeepee dumdums" it's something to be suspicious of. Divinity does not harbor this sort of ressentiment, it would be completely incoherent for something suprahuman to be so anthropomorphic; it would make the divine genuinely dependent upon interpretation by priests instead of being mediated by them, which, though another issue entirely, forces us to wonder if they aren't making everything up and not just a particular text. They are inverters, if not of a divine law then of law itself, which is necessarily weaker forces banding together to limit the activity of a stronger force. And this why the lowland priests are so hostile to the chads of vulture peak.

>> No.18364952

Why the fuck are we reading Evola. There are much more useful and interesting right wing thinkers (James Burnham, Paul Gottfried, Sam Francis etc.)

>> No.18364980

>>18364943
>Though closely related, the Sakas are to be distinguished from the Scythians of the Pontic Steppe and the Massagetae of the Aral Sea region,[3][4][5] although they form part of the wider Scythian cultures.[6] Like the European Scythians, the Sakas were ultimately derived from the earlier Andronovo culture. Their language formed part of the Scythian languages.
They were closely related and spoke similar (IE) languages. Sure, they weren’t identical as the Pontic Steppe Scythians, because, you know, they didn’t live in the Pontic Steppe? But they were like a Englishman and a New England colonists, or a European Spaniard and a Spanish criollo in colonial America.

>> No.18364991

>>18364951
>Don't trust Aryans bro they were retarded
>Just trust me, a trve 21 century IE and proud poster on Bangladeshi Cricket forum

>> No.18365001

>>18364952
Evola tops every /pol/ reading list and they've overrun the board with the same six threads about him every day.

>> No.18365012

>>18364991
Right that's literally you, a Chittagong hill tract salafist lecturing me on anti-Buddhist copes in Hinduism.

>> No.18365016

>>18364980
>Similarity of names
>Therefor similar groups
Yawn
Came back to when you more evidence other single shitty connection of name similarity

>> No.18365019

>>18364952
Nobody is stopping you from reading and creating threads about them. I’d bump.

>> No.18365027

>>18365012
I am not a Hindu. I am just telling you the way of Aryans and how Sakyas were considered subhumans by Vedic Aryans.

>> No.18365029

>>18365016
Read the Wikipedia article. It’s very well sourced. If you have your own, alternative theory take it up to the sources, not me.

>> No.18365041

>>18365029
I have looked at it. The "theory" sounds ridiculous when you consider massive holes which are mentioned in >>18364840

>> No.18365048

>>18363545
>He is saying the ("that") aristocrats of the souls to don't ("should not" ESL) marry
Yes.

>to not have kids
No.

>> No.18365054

>>18365027
>Sakyas were considered subhumans by Vedic Aryans.
Sure and I am telling you why that would be the case, because the frontier Aryans retained more of the virility and independence of their ancestors because of the harshness of their environment both socially and geographically while the riparian despots were weighted down by their moralizing priests.

>> No.18365057

>>18365048
>>18363519

>> No.18365061

>>18363519
>I can not recommend marriage
Does not mean:
>You shouldn't have kids
Anon.

>> No.18365066

>>18365054
So you are saying that Aryan warrior class was bunch of retarded cunts? Kek

>> No.18365069

>>18365041
Sure. Professional archeologists, linguists and geneticists BTFO by a shitpost by some angry anon on a basket weaving forum.

>> No.18365073

>>18365061
You missed the latter half of that quote, anon.

>> No.18365075

>>18364712
>You can in mantra/tantrayana
Which Guenon was never initiated into, in any case, I thought Evola was supposed to be a secret Sufi, that’s something totally different.

>> No.18365084

>>18365069
>Appeal to authority
Huh? I should have just pointed you towards pajeet scholars who even deny the Aryan invasion.
They have no "evidence" of the link between those two groups other than the name similarity.

>> No.18365086

>>18365073
Point out where in the second half he states "Don't have kids".

He states not to have them under the institution of marriage, anything else is you inferring the worst possible meaning (or non-meaning) for whatever reason.

>> No.18365095

>>18365066
No I'm saying that's what the priests were saying about those furthest from their authority.

>> No.18365120

>>18365095
So you are saying that Aryan warriors were bunch of retarded subhumans who let the priests take authority? Kek

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>>18365120
???
Bait

>> No.18365135

>>18365120
The ones who settled into a life of being surrounded by a huge peasantry yes. So they became domesticated to the priests, who resented the less domesticated aristocracy.

>> No.18365136

>>18365086
Point out where in the second he states "have kids".
If the institution of marriage can't protect them then what the fuck can protect them? He offered no solutions to this.
It's doubtful that Evola had kids. Even if he had, he never owned them.

>> No.18365146

>>18364952
Because Evola is not nearly in the same category as those you mentioned. They're not mutually exclusive.

>> No.18365147

>>18365135
>>18364991

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>>18365130
I like how his lips have a clit.

>> No.18365239

>>18364869
>But we know that Sakas were Indo-European, even Iranic-speaking peoples, so in that sense
where is the evidence for them being Iranic-speaking? I have never heard of it

>> No.18365280

>>18365054
>B*ddhistfag calling anyone else a moralist when Buddhism is the most moralizing eastern religion

>> No.18365299

>>18359711
I don't want to larp as streetshitting pajeet.

>> No.18365374

>>18365019
I will

>> No.18365417

>>18365280
Sorry that goes to the brahmins, their intense fear of pollution, and requiring of ritual to get rid of sins. Buddhism is certified Beyond Good and Evil by Nietzsche.

>> No.18365469

>>18365001
>Evola tops every /pol/ reading list
I LMAO at you

>> No.18365477

>>18360211
Kek

>> No.18365478

>>18365136
He also didn't advocate for skiing but still said you should do it if it seems fun.

>> No.18366565 [DELETED] 

>>18363519
>never married
>fucked italian whores and gave them bastards children
>then wrote a book about sex
Is this peak redpill?

>> No.18366645

>>18359902
He was literally a prince retard and he did engage in some form of martial arts (wrestling) which implies he was a Kshatriya.

>> No.18366652

>>18365120
How is that different than the catholic/vatican?

>> No.18366667

>>18366645
Read the thread
Or just read this >>18363377
He was from a slave caste according to Aryan caste system.

>> No.18366747

>>18365170
That is not where the clitoris is.

>> No.18366759

>>18359753
>why
because if you had a high iq you wouldn't

>> No.18367174

>>18365469
He's not wrong (well he doesn't top it, but he's often present).

>> No.18367305

pls someone post the excerpt of the pali canon whete a Brahmin calls him non aryan, and Buddha replies by literally calling the brahmin a nigger

>> No.18367600

>>18367174
Literally no one on /pol/ knows who Evola is. And the ones that do believe the memes that his MO was all about using tantric sex magic to exterminate all the jews.

>> No.18367655

>>18367600
>his MO was all about using tantric sex magic to exterminate all the jews.
Kek, he would be a lot cooler if it was.

>> No.18367688

>>18367600
>no one on /pol/ knows who Evola is
>But the ones who do are [Ridiculous thing for humor]
Uh huh.