/sffg/ - Science fiction and Fantasy general

[Anonymous No.18346005]

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[Anonymous No.18346015]

FUCK PATRICK ROTHFUSS

[Anonymous No.18346024]

Susanna Clarke is a great author

[Anonymous No.18346026]

Asking again
What are some fantasy books with relationships that make you giggle like a school girl and makes your stomach fill up with tiny little butterflies.

[Anonymous No.18346028]

>>18346005
Nice, another thinly veiled /jp/ bait OP.

[Anonymous No.18346047]

>>18346026
We don't discuss gay porn here.

[Anonymous No.18346053]

>>18346047
it's only gay if you're gay

[Anonymous No.18346058]

>>18346053
I'm not gay, you're gay. Don't ever say I'm gay. I'll have sex with a girl right now to prove you wrong.

[Anonymous No.18346063]

>>18346047
>>18346053
>>18346058
great discussion goin on here guys

Now for some actual discussion, who will take up Gene Wolfe's mantle?

[Anonymous No.18346071]

>>18346015
>Market and sell your books as an "ongoing series"
>it literally isn't
devilish

[Anonymous No.18346082]

>>18346063
I just want to read something "multilayered" and blatantly clever again before I die

[Anonymous No.18346089]

>>18346082
>I just want to read something "multilayered" and blatantly clever
might I suggest The Name of the Wind?

[Anonymous No.18346101]

>>18346089
You might not.

[Anonymous No.18346103]

No one in this thread hates anime as much as me.

[Anonymous No.18346139]

>>18346082
Bakker is probably the closest you'll get, but he's very autistic compared to Wolfe.

>>18346009
Everyone has read the big authors, so everyone can chime in when they're discussed. If I were to post about some obscure book, nobody would be able to, or care to respond to it. But the downside is that, aside from Bakker, there is little to discuss about the major series. Most of them ended a decade ago, and genre fiction is rarely complex enough to warrant argumentation.

Even posting a review of something more obscure is a problem, because you need to know what both people think about something they both read, otherwise there is no way to make sense of a recommendation. For example I don't recommend some of my favorite books to some of my friends, because I know they would hate it, but I will recommend books that I didn't care about or even disliked, because I know it's something they will love. Here there's no such context. I can do my best to describe the book, but people won't know my sensibilities.

[Anonymous No.18346416]

>>18346139
What it sounds like to me is that you're saying this general really has no reason to exist.

[Anonymous No.18346426]

>>18346416
Even the mega recs are really fucking weak and a decade behind.

[Anonymous No.18346439]

>>18346426
>implying anything worth reading has been written in the last decade
Other than Bakker, of course.

[Anonymous No.18346441]

>>18346439
I've only read recent releases for the past 5 years. You nogs are just stuck in the past and/or don't actually read anything.

[Anonymous No.18346453]

>>18346441
>I've only read recent releases for the past 5 years.
I'd like some recommendations if you don't mind.

[Anonymous No.18346465]

>>18346453
I don't put effort into responding to blatant bait, sorry.

[Anonymous No.18346467]

>>18346465
I'm not the anon you were talking to. Oh well.

[Anonymous No.18346496]

Webnovels have shattered my reading-sense. I don't think I can read normal stories or books ever again, everything will be short and unfulfilling on comparison.
What can compete with something like The Wandering Inn? 28 thousands pages of story, and more on its way.

Webnovels are the true stories that authors were always trying to tell, but were shackled by the editors and book sizes.

Embrace the webnovels. Embrace the pure stories as they are supposed to be told.

[Anonymous No.18346513]

>>18337489
The Tines were annoying as fuck. The Children of the Sky is a direct sequel to A Fire Upon the Deep and continues the AIDS dogs story. I dropped it within 50 pages. A Deepness in the Sky is the best in the trilogy.

[Anonymous No.18346552]

>>18346139
bakker isnt even remotely like wolfe you fucking potato head. bakker is more traditional tolkien esque fantasy with lovecraftian influences. their writing styles are completely different. bakker doesnt layer his story with subtext and puzzles. there are mysteries in bakker's stories but theyre more like a typical novel mysteries rather than something you can figure out by reading it again
the truth is theres no one like wolfe, he's literally a once in a generation genius

[Anonymous No.18346588]

>>18346552
>bakker is more traditional tolkien esque fantasy
Indeed, Tolkien is famous for his tales of cuckoldry and homosexual rape triangles.

[Anonymous No.18346597]

Boutta pop out to the used book store, you guys want anything while I'm out?

[Anonymous No.18346605]

>>18346496
This, but SCP articles, haha... Now that's /lit/ AF.

[Anonymous No.18346614]

>>18346597
Get me a can of cheez whiz

[Anonymous No.18346623]

>>18346597
Cat food and condoms.

[Anonymous No.18346657]

>>18346588
Have you read the books?

[Anonymous No.18346665]

>>18346614
>>18346623
Not sure they sell those here, but they do have a lot of Mercedes Lackey books

[Anonymous No.18346667]

>>18346665
I'm out of toilet paper. I'll take that copy of Greendaughter by Anne Logston.

[Anonymous No.18346675]

They don't make covers like they used to

[Anonymous No.18346703]

>>18346675
Damn, what a cover too. Nowadays we get that horrible digital art or stock photography with the 3d-serif fonts

[Anonymous No.18346717]

>>18346675
Plenty of great modern covers.

[Anonymous No.18346740]

>>18346623
Because you entice the cat with food and then fuck it with the condoms, get it? Haha...

[Anonymous No.18346755]

Ah, i found exactly the book i came in hopes of, how rare

[Anonymous No.18346844]

https://www.deviantart.com/uthp/journal/The-Legend-of-Twilight-Zelda-Princess-part-I-348420007

[Anonymous No.18346861]

>>18346755
I don't get why people still want to lug around dead weight like this when kindle exists. I don't own a single physical book anymore.

[Anonymous No.18346915]

>>18346861
The optics of reading a fucking tome in the break room.

[Anonymous No.18346916]

Looking for a fantasy audiobook with mature themes. Something with sex and violence. Some quick searches recommended The Malazan and The Blade Itself, are those good?

[Anonymous No.18346918]

Just got home, r8 my stack. Textless gray book is a 1945 printing of Fear and Trembling
>>18346861
I'm just a collector. I've already read most of these digitally, but get a feeling of enjoyment from physically holding books i like.

[Anonymous No.18346925]

>>18346916
also, I know gene Wolfe is in this ballpark but I'm going to actually read his books because they don't seem suitable to audio.

[Anonymous No.18346927]

>>18346918
Fair enough. I gave all of mine away. I can't even stand physical copies of movies and games anymore, either. I've bought like 25 books on kindle in the past week.

[Anonymous No.18346928]

>>18346916
>mature themes
>sex and violence

[Anonymous No.18346933]

>>18346927
That's how i feel about most things, it's really just books that i love to collect

[Anonymous No.18346934]

>>18346657
obviously not. no bakker hating faggot has dared to surmount those heights.

[Anonymous No.18346945]

>>18346918
Most of them are in good condition/10

[Anonymous No.18346988]

>>18346928
why are you confused and being a fag. Those are mature themes.

[Anonymous No.18347007]

>>18346928
they literally are

[Anonymous No.18347027]

>>18346988
>>18347007
Every YA novel is about sex and violence. Mature themes are more like loss, honor, parenthood, faith, ennui, and confusion. But if you're really set on sex and violence, maybe check out some super hero comics

[Anonymous No.18347031]

>>18347027
I like violent sex, not sex AND violence.

[Anonymous No.18347034]

>>18347031
I hear 50 Shades of Grey is popular

[Anonymous No.18347052]

>>18346918
What does your full collection look like at this point?

[Anonymous No.18347056]

>>18346916
Everybody Loves Large Chests
But the original webnovel has way more sex and violence than the kindle and audible version.

[Anonymous No.18347064]

>>18347034
Now that's REAL literature.

[Anonymous No.18347078]

>>18347052
Only about a bookshelf. A few years back i had to sell my whole collection to make rent, and it's only recently I've been financially secure enough to start again. I'm also doing a thing this year where i mail my siblings a book a month with a handwritten review on a bookmark, so I'm simultaneously draining it. Probably going to send off this copy of Curse of Chalion to my sister for June

[Anonymous No.18347083]

>>18347027
>Mature themes are more like loss, honor, parenthood, faith, ennui, and confusion.
those can all be encompassed withing sex and violence. just answer my fucking question and stop being a pedantic faggot. you know what I was looking for based on the books I mentioned bitch.

[Anonymous No.18347087]

>>18347083
Twilight

[Anonymous No.18347092]

>>18347083
Throne of Glass or Shattered

[Anonymous No.18347110]

I just finished reading The White-Luck Warrior and I got spoiled on the next books, and I'm dropping this nihilistic torture porn shit. I tried getting into Malazan but it seemed too 'contemporary' or conspicuously American, if that makes sense. Is it worth it to keep going?

[Anonymous No.18347115]

>>18346916
The First Law trilogy is definitely up your alley.

[Anonymous No.18347148]

>>18347110
>missing out on based CHADweel and the second best book Bakker ever wrote because muh nihilism :(

[Anonymous No.18347180]

>>18347148
You spend 19 volumes building up the superpowered god-mantling messiah and then he dies in a really dumb way at the crescendo of the conflict and gets all his men, the cream of every nation in the world, killed and raped in every hole, dooming humanity forever.

[Anonymous No.18347199]

>>18347180
trust the plan
2 more weeks

[Anonymous No.18347227]

>>18347199
What is the plan? Is it gonna be an asspull where he's reborn as an actual god or what?

[Anonymous No.18347330]

>roshar is gonna have computers by the 2nd half of the series

[Anonymous No.18347412]

>>18347330

[Anonymous No.18347419]

>>18347412
Isn't there a dabbing emote in fortnite? Make him do that.

[Anonymous No.18347513]

>>18347419
no

[Anonymous No.18347706]

ired boks ;)

[Anonymous No.18347730]

>>18346005
Any Star Wars suggestions beyond the original thrawn trilogy? Pls don’t judge

[Anonymous No.18347824]

>>18347730
The novelisation of Revenge of the Sith is very good.

[Anonymous No.18348408]

>>18347110
>don't read the actual books
>read spoilers by some faggot who probably doesn't understand shit
>miss all the in depth lore and explanations and character analysis
>"wow the ending is gay"

[Anonymous No.18348411]

>>18348408
gay cope?

[Anonymous No.18348430]

>>18347110
You’re missing out bud, but the Meat can be a little strongly flavoured for some weak stomachs..

[Anonymous No.18348489]

>>18346597
I’d like a copy of “Shadow of the Hegemon” please

[Anonymous No.18348502]

when my e-reader gets here in the mail I am gonna read so many books bros

[Anonymous No.18348509]

>>18348502
lmao

[Anonymous No.18348519]

Been a while since I posted this here, but it's free right now, so what the hell.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08745D6BP

[Anonymous No.18348538]

>>18346005
Any books that give a similar vibe to OPs image?

More on the fantasy side if possible and not sci fi but maybe fantasy can’t be post apocalyptic

[Anonymous No.18348544]

>>18346005
I like the stormlight archive series. What else should I read?

[Anonymous No.18348645]

>>18348538
Star's Reach: A Novel Of The Deindustrial Future

[Anonymous No.18348648]

Tired of protagonists who get cucked? Why not check out Reverend Insanity and watch as he rips the hearts out of women who oppose him.

[Anonymous No.18348852]

>>18346024
how's her new book?

[Anonymous No.18348858]

>>18346916
out of those two, go with The Blade Itself

[Anonymous No.18348863]

>>18348852
Mostly great. The labyrinth and everything to do with it is wonderful. The problem, from my perspective, is that the plot goes outside of it and just isn't very interesting in comparison. I would probably have enjoyed it more if it had no plot at all and just meandered through the lonely flooded corridors

[Anonymous No.18348874]

>>18348863
is it as long as dr norwick and mr strange?

[Anonymous No.18348880]

>>18348874
Not even close. Just checked my copy, and it clocks in under 300 pages

[Anonymous No.18348909]

>>18348880
nice

[Anonymous No.18349547]

>get back into Stellar Transformations for the first time in a while just to see the monkey nigga Hou Fei go BERSERK for the first time
I don't like the ranking system in this one mainly because I don't understand the fucking chinese names and level-# immortals are dumb, feels like no threat and it is all a bigger number.

[Anonymous No.18349605]

>>18346089
no

[Anonymous No.18349759]

>>18348502
Just don't forget to turn airplane mode on.

[Anonymous No.18349821]

Should I read the Three-Body Problem?
Should I read it in Chinese?

[Anonymous No.18349833]

>>18346496
TWI is poorly written shlock for most of it, length isn't everything; if length was the only thing that mattered, then that Super Smash Bros fanfiction thing would be the greatest work of fiction than anything.

With that said, you both do and don't have a point. First of all, length is not necessarily an inherent virtue. More time does not always translate to better and more fulfilling (although it does translate to emotional attachment in some ways, since you have more time building up relations with it). Something well-written will always be superior to something that's just long, and the greatest fault of web novel is that they're often poorly written, but even putting that aside, supremely well-written novels will still be plenty satisfying even if "short" in comparison to web novels since that's just how writing is. As long as you keep an open mind, single-book novels will still have plenty ability to move you, to say nothing of the multiple 3-book series. It doesn't actually take we humans that long to get attached to well-written plots and characters (for hot women in particular, men have an instinctive desire to "own" them, which makes us empathize with their deaths/struggles/etc.)

There's also a question of how much time in WNs is actually spent developing and progressing characters, and I think often you will find their actual development and such can be crammed into a small series fairly easily, since a LOT of web novels (especially something like TWI) is fluff or outright poorly paced, meandering asides where nothing happens. You could cut out all the meandering, have a much shorter work, and it still have equally strong/fulfilling plots. I've been reading a slew of web novels myself lately, and when quality/quantity combines it's genuinely incredible, but not in such a way that moots the point of traditional novels. They're both enjoyable in their own way, and really webnovels are harder to get into I think, since many of them are month-long investments which make most people shy away. You could read the entire Wheel of Time series twice in the time it takes to read TWI.

But really, the low-quality writing is what kneecaps them. Like I said, I've been reading a lot, and the poor writing quality really grates. As a professional writer I have to think a lot about grammar and syntax (don't Muphry's Law this post) myself, and the majority of WNs are so poorly written that at least a quarter of my time spent reading them is correcting their grammar or nitpicking word choice. This happens FAR less often with traditional novels thanks to editors, and sours a lot of works for me. I'm reading "Mother of Learning" right now since it's Royal Road's most popular series, and by god does the amateurish writing grate. With most WNs you need to get really clinical and completely ignore the prose, focusing entirely on the bare characters/plot, but since these are amateur writers even those two often end up shoddily executed + shallow.

[Anonymous No.18349848]

>>18346496
>>18349833
Okay I kind of rambled there so tl;dr:

In an ideal world, Web Fiction would be the peak of literature, since the format genuinely does allow writers to write exactly what they want for as long as they want. This has produced a few masterpieces and many impressive works of art, no doubt. However, all their virtues are a double-edged sword, and being longer is not a virtue unto itself. With greater length comes all but universally worse pacing and meandering plots; with freedom of control shlock is given unrestrained power; and without editors the writing is shoddy, not even passing a cursory glanced by anyone experienced with writing whatsoever.

Web Novels are promising and should not be ignored, but they coexist with traditional novels, not replace them. Finding the gems among the rough is even harder, and even the gems often find themselves struggling to shine properly without any support structure.

[Anonymous No.18349869]

Lads, the entire Cradle series by Will Wight is $0 on Amazon.

[Anonymous No.18349873]

>>18349848
>This has produced a few masterpieces and many impressive works of art, no doubt.
Which ones? Genuinely curious.

[Anonymous No.18349880]

>>18349869
why would I ever bother buying something, even if it's free, when I have the internet at my fingertip

[Anonymous No.18349960]

>>18349873
Well, let me preface this by saying that web fiction is inherently more cringe than modern media, and users of 4chan especially have a tendency to sneer and mock any perceived weakness, which is not hard at all to do with web novels. Furthermore, please recall that many works of historical literature such as Anna Karenina were serially published as entertainment before being bound into novels - they became literature through the lens of history, and it's important not to get too caught up in "genre fiction" vs "literary' distinction in this kind of thing. I would also like to make it clear that I am fairly early in my "web novel journey" as it were, and I am far from having a complete knowledge of everything good.

With that established, I feel comfortable calling the following webnovels works of art. I will try to defend my choice, so please do not sneer at them on instinct.

First of all, I will grant "Worm" this title. I actually fucking hate Worm with a passion and think it's pretty awful, but it's undeniable the influence it had on both web fiction and online writing culture. It appeals to the subversive desires of the postmodernist society we live in, by which I mean it more or less started the trend of western web fiction focusing on "evil" or "villain" protagonists as opposed to traditional heroes. In terms of impacting a lot of people and being a pioneer of a new genre, I feel Worm deserves the title of art, regardless of what I or others may think of how shitty it is.

Second, "Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality." Please do not sneer, allow me to explain. Taken on its own merits, we have to admit that HPMOR is literally a propaganda work meant to shill the author's belief structure in the format of an approachable fanfiction for teenagers. However, the reason I am willing to call this a work of art is the sheer impact it had. It single-handedly created a genre of so-called "rational fiction," spawned a global "rational community", and so on. It tapped deeply, deeply into the identity and desires of literally millions of people. I find this kind of thing supremely impressive, and for so many people to have been moved, it has to be art in my mind. Naturally you can sneer at both rationalism and HPMOR quite easily, but I would like to pay respect to influential works of art, regardless of how 'cringe' the concept may be.

Third, perhaps to virtue signal and list something nobody can sneer at, I will say 「ンディアナガル殲記」. It is a Japanese-only web novel written by an author who set out to directly contrast most popular tropes in Japanese fiction. I don't give points for subversion on its own, but the resulting work is quite horrifying and impressive to behold. The grim filth of the world and characters can only be described as artistic, and the subversion of tropes infuriated all those who read it, such that all those who finished it were powered solely by their hate.

[Anonymous No.18350019]

>>18349873
>>18349960
As for masterpieces, well, I mainly said that in terms of things I liked enough to be blown away by their quality, but that's pretty subjective. I wasn't really thinking of, like, what, masterpieces in the Brothers Karamazov sense. I will some of my favorites, however: 幻想再帰のアリュージョニスト, 図書館ドラゴンは火を吹かない, Worth the Candle, 二度目の勇者は復讐の道を嗤い歩む (<- surprisingly literary in execution and prose), The Flower That Bloomed Nowhere... I suppose I open myself up mockery by admitting this due to the popularity of their anime adaptions, but I quite enjoyed the novel forms of Mushoku Tensei and Re:Zero, both of which contributed greatly to the isekai boom that continues to be felt a decade later.

It's probably quite obvious why I would say I would clarify my inexperience with web novels, as a Japanese lord hailing from the Lost Islands, I have only yet so far dipped my toes in western web fiction. However, I have seen enough impressive things and wide-reaching social impacts to not hesitate in giving out praise. As I have said often, it is easy to sneer at web fiction, as they are quite sincere attempts to tell entertaining stories and therefore can be both dismissed as genre fiction and mocked for their surface level attributes, but I find that a fairly shallow way to think about media.

If I do not get worn the fuck down by how long and poorly-written so much web fiction tends to be, I hope to be able return in a few years with a much more powerful answer that does not rely on Japanese fiction and easily-mocked titans such as Worm/HPMOR. It's truly quite a vast medium, western web-fiction that is, and it will take a long time to get a hold of it.

[Anonymous No.18350377]

Get your self a tripcode so I can filter you, buddy.

[Anonymous No.18350442]

>>18350377
I'm not your buddy, pal.

[Anonymous No.18350471]

>>18350442
I'm not your PAL, NTSC.

[Anonymous No.18350505]

>>18349833
>>18349848

Nah, MoL is just hugely overrated. The poor quality of writing is just bad because it's bad. Story was decent I guess and the ideas are somewhat interesting but the writing brings it down a lot.

>>18349960
>>18350019

HPMOR and Worm are actually well-written though, regardless of thematic issues. I half-heartedly recommend Pith. On the one hand the story has interesting ideas, on the other hand the author is a complete and total lunatic. Doesn't seem to affect the work but it freaked me out. I also liked Reverend Insanity, quite thoughtful xianxia, good worldbuilding and so on. Sadly CCP killed it for being too individualistic.

Do any of the aforementioned Japanese webfictions have good English translations?

[Anonymous No.18350577]

>>18348502
I've read 13 books this month on my phone. :D

[Anonymous No.18350583]

>>18350577

[Anonymous No.18350587]

>>18350583
It's a 7" OLED.

[Anonymous No.18350631]

>>18350577
>>18350583
>>18350587
This but for books
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKiIroiCvZ0

[Anonymous No.18350664]

>>18350505
I will keep your recommendations in mind. I have much trust for anyone who can appreciate HPMOR's (albeit controversial) virtues without simply dismissing it off-hand.

Most of them don't have any TLs at all unfortunately. Those that do can hardly be called excellent. The light novel adaptation of Mushoku Tensei has a good translator working on it, albeit the publisher just underwent a censorship controversy and had to revert a bunch of alterations made by the editors. (Said publisher, Yen Press, is basically a 4chan wet dream in this regard, since they literally hired BIPOC YA writers to "alter" the Japanese fiction to be more palatable for westerners, which included cutting out monologues, references to rape, pretty much anything sexual, etc. Literally the exact kind of evil SJW censorship that 4chan hates so much.) Re:Zero's TL is pretty bad and doesn't convey the weight of the prose very much, I wouldn't say it's a literary masterpiece in Japanese, but it has some truly impressive prose (especially for a web novel), which was why I bothered mentioning it despite how infamous it is due to the meme anime adaptation. 二度目の勇者は復讐の道を嗤い歩む just got picked up by Yen Press but I don't really trust them to TL the prose well, it has a very impressive myth-like feel to it, with many dream-like sequences that I know from experience would be supremely had to TL. (Definitely not a book to judge by the cover.)

ンディアナガル殲記 I mentioned foremost since I knew nobody here had read it and wouldn't be able to dismiss it without thinking, and by virtue of its obscurity it has not been TL'd (nor probably ever will be, it is quite a grim and unhappy work unlikely to gather many fans). 幻想再帰のアリュージョニスト has quite a bit of dense philosophy, and despite being highly praised by Japanese readers, I don't know any TLer who would dare to try TLing it. Just its description is quite challenging to TL accurately. 図書館ドラゴンは火を吹かない may get TL'd someday, but it is known in Japan as basically being the best-written prose on the whole Narou website. It's kind of a meme for this reason, you just open up chapter 1 then get blasted the fuck away.

I advise not allowing yourself to grow invested in Japanese web novels unless you're planning to learn the language. The most popular of them, the ones that get light novel adaptations, get translated with some regularity, but it's extremely rare for the TL to be particularly good. JP->EN TL is pretty hard and LN translators are generally amateurs. The web novels all get machine translated. There's a bizarre ecosystem of MTLers who steal cheat and lie in a desperate attempt to cloak their use of MTL. You have to kind of hit your head with a brick (or be an ESL) in order to enjoy translated Japanese webnovels, and even then your selection will be quite limited.

[Anonymous No.18350692]

>>18350631
Cope, hipster. I've read more on digital devices than you've read in your entire life, lmao.

[Anonymous No.18350699]

>>18350692
Ereaders are fine, but not phones or tablets.

[Anonymous No.18350711]

>>18350699
Phones are fine as long as you don't have a poorfag variant. The image quality of an OLED objectively cannot be matched by an e-reader. I ditched my 2018 paperwhite a while ago.

[Anonymous No.18350714]

>try to read webfic
>instant eyestrain
>nobody has ported it to E0reader format

[Anonymous No.18350716]

>>18350714
>admitting to having inferior genetics
Are you also a balding manlet?

[Anonymous No.18350721]

>>18350716
judging from your post I'm assuming you're a balding manlet
it's ok, you know
nobody is going to judge you

[Anonymous No.18350728]

>>18350721
I have given no indication one way or the other. You, on the other hand, have admitted to having poor eyesight. Wouldn't surprise me if you were an obsese, balding midget with weak facial hair growth.

[Anonymous No.18350733]

>>18350728
like I said anon, I don't really care if you're a balding manlet, we're on an anonymous imageboard talking about books

[Anonymous No.18350735]

>>18350728
>>18350716
The biggest indicator here is the fact that an attempt to read "webfic" was made. This is why Hitler gassed the jews.

[Anonymous No.18350737]

>>18350735
by replying to me, you've already read my webfic

[Anonymous No.18350770]

>>18350737
that post didn't reply to you

[Anonymous No.18350775]

>>18350770
yet his post already betrayed his action

[Anonymous No.18350779]

>>18347412
Sanderson collaborating with a game primarily played by 12 year olds is pure pottery.

[Anonymous No.18350796]

>>18350711
I don't like reading on a screen because after an hour or two my eyes start to hurt, which is why I got an e-ink reader. Not trying to fuck up my eye-sight by starting at a screen intensely for 4-5 hours a day

[Anonymous No.18350798]

>>18350728
>weak facial hair growth
I'm truly sorry you can't grow a beard to cope with your hair loss and dwarfism anon, I imagine you're the southern spic-shitalian, bad genetics down there.

[Anonymous No.18350816]

>>18350796
I've "stared at" screens for 9+ hours a day for 15 years and my eyesight is still perfect in my mid 30s. I could stare at a display literally all day without feeling any kind of eye strain. This is more of a you problem than anything else.

[Anonymous No.18350819]

>>18348648
This is the only good post in this thread. Why can't western authors be so based

[Anonymous No.18350828]

books

[Anonymous No.18350831]

>>18350828
Do 10,000 word creepypasta count?

[Anonymous No.18350839]

>>18350831
Depends, are they written by Japanese or people I don't like?

[Anonymous No.18350841]

>>18350839
Transsexuals of color.

[Anonymous No.18350886]

>>18346015
These onions "male" beta cuckolds writing a grand total of 2 novels throughout their entire career are fucking pathetic. Dude's literally almost fucking dead from old age at this point. The more prolific writers out there have written more in the past 5 years than this dude will in several lifetimes.

[Anonymous No.18350906]

>>18349869
There hasn't been a good book since Underlord.

[Anonymous No.18350921]

Sex Books

[Anonymous No.18350923]

>>18350921
The Second Apocalypse Series

[Anonymous No.18350929]

>>18350921
Massively outsell every other genre.

[Anonymous No.18350948]

>>18350921
Leonard Cohen's poems.

[Anonymous No.18350966]

>>18350886
some NOTW apologist in the last thread said it was fine if Rothfuss never wrote another novel, and he has a point: the man has solidified himself as one of the most notable fantasy writers in the past two decades (for better or worse) and is basically set for the rest of his (probably short) life. If he keels over and kicks the bucket tomorrow it wouldn't make much of a difference

[Anonymous No.18350982]

>>18350966
His reasoning for not releasing a third book is LITERALLY that he would get low scores on Goodreads. It's hilarious seeing a grown man being this childishly insecure.

[Anonymous No.18351007]

>>18350982
that's my suspicion too: all that heralding and hoo-rah'ing about the first book really got to his head, and when his second book turned out to be shit, he decided to just not release the third instead of releasing it and risking getting bad reviews and tarnishing his reputation–compare to GRRM, who just legitimately doesn't know how to end the story and is just waiting to die so he can be released of all responsibility

I swear, when I get published I'll never publish a fanasy series; stand-alones and short stories for me

[Anonymous No.18351016]

>>18350921
If you have some specific fetish (cuckoldry and gay sex), you can't beat Bakker honestly. Probably the hottest gay scene in epic fantasy ever written is the famous "Does it trouble you?" where a master takes and sodomizes his adoring pupil on the eve of battle, with both lust and necessity intermingled.

[Anonymous No.18351025]

>>18351016
I enjoy cuckoldry and gay sex, but not when the participants are underage. Bakker went too far with the toddler dicking(s).

[Anonymous No.18351031]

>>18351007
Most of my favorite SFF are stand-alone. You don't really need more than 600 pages to flesh out a world and tell an interesting story. People just don't like to constantly make new ones.

[Anonymous No.18351035]

>>18351007
>https://winteriscoming.net/2021/05/28/stephen-king-worried-never-read-the-winds-of-winter-george-rr-martin-song-of-ice-and-fire-game-of-thrones/
Imagine if King finished ASOIAF after GRRM died, that would be amazing. He sucks at writing endings, so the fans of the series would finally, finally see their beloved series completed... by the author who is probably best known for writing shitty endings

[Anonymous No.18351038]

>>18351035
GRRM already wrote the ending decades ago.
>Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up, she was shitting brown water. The more she drank the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew.

[Anonymous No.18351043]

>>18346597
Yeah, give me 50 copies of the Da Vinci Code.

[Anonymous No.18351051]

>>18351043
Small, medium, large or supersize?

[Anonymous No.18351056]

>ASOIAF has no ending
Uh sweety that's what the TV series was for, okay??

[Anonymous No.18351059]

>>18351056
What a great adaptation. You remember those seasons spent on traveling from point A to point B? Now we just fucking teleport multiple times per episode.

[Anonymous No.18351064]

>>18351059
It's terrible but can you blame them? I imagine they thought GRRM would finish the series in time, and instead he just put out a bunch of unadaptable filler that ballooned the plot out to the point it could no longer be concluded.

[Anonymous No.18351108]

>>18346916

[Anonymous No.18351123]

>>18346916

[Anonymous No.18351145]

>>18351064
I think their main issue was rushing out the last few seasons. Even though the writing was shit, everything just felt extremely rushed.

[Anonymous No.18351162]

>>18351145
If I ran out of usable source material I think I'd just want to get it over with too. I don't mean to defend them, though. I didn't even watch the last season.

[Anonymous No.18351474]

>>18349833
>>18349848
>>18349960
>>18350019
>>18350664
What amazing examples of shitposts in the guise of effortposts. What you've written is so very wrong, but you're so very confident of it. Thank you for these wonderful posts of human dysfunction.

[Anonymous No.18351520]

>>18351474
His mistake was naming things that people might actually be familiar with, e.g. Re:zero. The whole shtick of talking up Japanese media like this relies on talking about things that are untranslated and that you're sure your audience can't read. If they can know what you're talking about is complete fucking garbage then it doesn't work.

[Anonymous No.18351548]

>>18346496
I tried reading this since i like Isekai but it's so obvious that this is written by a woman author.
It's just constant pov switches and slice of life monotony.

[Anonymous No.18351591]

>>18351474
Not an argument. How much webfiction have you even read?
>>18351520
See
>I suppose I open myself up mockery by admitting this due to the popularity of their anime adaptions
You following into predictable patterns impresses nobody.

[Anonymous No.18351598]

>>18351591
You shouldn't have made that concession at all and should just not have mentioned those things. It would have kept up the illusion.

[Anonymous No.18351614]

The Zombie Knight Saga is the only good western webnovel.
Everything else sucks. This is not an opinion, it's just a fact.

[Anonymous No.18351660]

>>18351474
>>18351520
I'm fairly sure I know exactly who this poster is on namefag sites. Don't worry, I won't dox anyone. All I'll say is that he became notorious for being smug about learning Japanese to read smut, stating that localization is a wasted effort because monoglots aren't capable of understanding or appreciating these works of art on anything but a surface level anyway. Notorious, notorious autist.

[Anonymous No.18351667]

>>18351660
You honor me.

[Anonymous No.18351685]

Sorweel couldn't just get away with plundering Serwa's sweet blond pusy, could he? No he had to get the BBC too.

[Anonymous No.18351771]

>>18351614
This sounds super gay.

[Anonymous No.18351791]

Kneel.

[Anonymous No.18351808]

Fuck E William Brown
Fuck Pay Pigs
Fuck Pay Walls
Fuck Excuses
Fuck Incommunicado
Fuck You

[Anonymous No.18351812]

>>18351808
NO U

[Anonymous No.18351823]

>NOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T CRITICIZE THE SANDO/FORTNITE COLAB

[Anonymous No.18351826]

>>18346496
It's shit.
The no kill gobo slut getting everyone killed for her childishness, and the run slut turning into a raging feminist at the end of Volume one made sure that it was shit.

[Anonymous No.18351833]

>>18351791
Being the manlet that he is, he'd still be eye level with his 12 year old kneeling fans.

[Anonymous No.18351869]

>>18351660
> Notorious, notorious autist.
Yes, these posts alone can attest to that.

[Anonymous No.18351960]

@18351823
who are you quoting

[Anonymous No.18351965]

Is the Obsidian Path worth reading? Most self published grimdark is just 300 pages of rape.

[Anonymous No.18351967]

>>18351685
They said no homo first, it’s ok

[Anonymous No.18351983]

@Sandersoy

I accept your defeat.

[Anonymous No.18351990]

>>18351965
>Most self published grimdark is just 300 pages of rape.
Going to read to some self-published grimdark now.

[Anonymous No.18352027]

Does it trouble you?

[Anonymous No.18352028]

rent free

[Anonymous No.18352043]

>>18351965
>Most self published grimdark is just 300 pages of rape.
Examples? Preferable at least 10.

[Anonymous No.18352046]

Do you get a free Fortnite skin for buying these? I certainly hope so, considering they cost hundreds of dollarinos.

[Anonymous No.18352047]

>>18352043
Find your own porn.

[Anonymous No.18352050]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9REWMEOLdI
books with this feel?

[Anonymous No.18352075]

>>18352050
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/35066358-the-first-fifteen-lives-of-harry-august

[Anonymous No.18352090]

>>18352046
i wish there were stormlight skins bro, maybe in a few months

[Anonymous No.18352103]

>>18352027
Yes.

[Anonymous No.18352104]

>>18352090
Can't wait to do this with my Shardplate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2THACbNBsFo

[Anonymous No.18352126]

>>18352104
That would be choice actually
Lighten up and maybe enjoy something once in a while, yeah?

[Anonymous No.18352156]

>>18352126
I can't until my gender reassignment surgery is complete.

[Anonymous No.18352175]

>>18352156
Ah well good luck with that, whichever way you're going :)

[Anonymous No.18352343]

Is fantasy or science fiction the better taste?

[Anonymous No.18352346]

>>18352343
They're the same thing.

[Anonymous No.18352355]

>>18352343
If you want to impress someone, science fiction

if you want to feel something, fantasy

[Anonymous No.18352369]

Copped this yesterday

[Anonymous No.18352397]

>>18352355
>hey girl, want to hear about this cool science fact that could totally happen if you drove your spaceship into a star?

[Anonymous No.18352410]

>>18352397
more like SF gets a lot of credit for "exploring" philosophical themes which I find funny because a lot of fantasy does as well but it never gets pointed out like it does for most SF

[Anonymous No.18352413]

>>18352369
Why that donkey looking so thicc?

[Anonymous No.18352436]

>>18352410
I think this has more to do with people today seeing science fiction as more "real" or "it could be true" rather than the older themes that arise from Alice falling down a hole in the ground.

[Anonymous No.18352451]

>>18352436
yeah i guess "bro what if slavery is... le bad" hits different when it's presented with space ships rather than wizards

[Anonymous No.18352477]

>>18352451
Do you think I'll have trouble publishing my 5000 page fantasy series about how slavery is good?

[Anonymous No.18352526]

>>18352477
that depends entirely on the pigmentation of your slaves

[Anonymous No.18352533]

>>18352477
Now this would be interesting. You could show how the new liberated society either descends into anarchy, or that it is corrupted by the ideology itself; merely replacing one sets of slaves by another (former masters).

Then again, modern readers aren't familiar with the stories about Haiti and the revolution there. In their eyes slavery is worse than murder itself. So the slaves of Haiti mass murdering their masters is Just. Whereas masters killing the slaves is immoral.

[Anonymous No.18352551]

>>18352526
Everyone is white to begin with but the magic that seals the slave ownership turns the slaves' skin black.

[Anonymous No.18352573]

>>18352156
Ah, a Bakkerfellow I see.

[Anonymous No.18352582]

>>18352551
>The hunched slave-owner led the man by his leash to a proud-looking noble sitting under an umbrella to shield himself from the sun.
>"You see? You see?" The slave-owner said, grinning widely and gesturing towards the man with the leash. "Very good, very strong."
>The noble regarded the slave silently. "I will take him," he said at last.
>There was a sound like a fire springing up and the slave looked down: his once-white limbs had turned into a gleaming shade of dark brown.
>"A nigger!" he said, "That man turned me into a nigger!"

[Anonymous No.18352597]

>>18352582
Very good. I knew I couldn't use niggers so I decided to call the slaves Reggins. Hopefully no one will notice.

[Anonymous No.18352631]

>>18352573
My penis troubles me.

[Anonymous No.18352635]

>>18352597
Mighty Maebreggin.

[Anonymous No.18353105]

Does Bakker have a mail box?

Are you here, dude? Say something I'm not giving up on you

[Anonymous No.18353183]

>>18351791
I'd rather floss

[Anonymous No.18353243]

>>18353183
These words are accepted.

[Anonymous No.18353568]

>>18350828
I've read them.

[Anonymous No.18353582]

I read

[Anonymous No.18353609]

How do you cope with dropping a shit book and leaving it forever unfinished on your autism list?

[Anonymous No.18353627]

>>18353582
I am.

[Anonymous No.18353631]

>>18353609
I finish it on audiobook while doing chores around the house

[Anonymous No.18353637]

>>18353627
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08BgTHgXGU0

[Anonymous No.18353644]

Anathem
when is the hook? I read 2% and it feels like eternity. every fifth word doesn't exist in English or is not in its original meaning.

[Anonymous No.18353740]

>>18353644
it's called we do a little inference

[Anonymous No.18353778]

>>18350714
use this https://github.com/dteviot/WebToEpub works for most webnovels.

[Anonymous No.18353805]

I did not care for the Darkness That Comes Before. I found it shallow and pedantic.

[Anonymous No.18353846]

>>18353805
>pedantic
I think you may be onto something with this one

[Anonymous No.18354126]

>>18353609
Don't cultivate an autism list

[Anonymous No.18354262]

I personally think Christopher Tolkien should have added an epilogue to the Children of Húrin, where Húrin goes on a vengeful travel to Nargothrond and Doriath.

[Anonymous No.18354902]

>>18346005
What are some books with this aesthetic?

[Anonymous No.18354915]

>>18349833
>length isn't everything; if length was the only thing that mattered, then that Super Smash Bros fanfiction thing would be the greatest work of fiction than anything.
haha dicklet cope

[Anonymous No.18355051]

>>18354902
Some post-apocalypse novels.

[Anonymous No.18355089]

>>18354915
To be fair, everything is a dicklet compared to TWI.

[Anonymous No.18355327]

>>18351791
I have won.

[Anonymous No.18355334]

>>18355327
to be honest
I imagined the cloak to have more than 8 tassels total

[Anonymous No.18355344]

>>18346918
I used to have shadowmancer in my bookshelf but never got around to reading it. Was it any good?

[Anonymous No.18355351]

>>18346916
If you want sex just read the name of the wind series

[Anonymous No.18355366]

sex gifs

[Anonymous No.18355389]

>>18346026
Kys

[Anonymous No.18355392]

>>18355389
love you too anon

[Anonymous No.18355443]

>>18355344
I think it's a cool reaction against the occult invasion of 90s British punk culture. It's basically dark Christian fantasy focused on the temptation and destruction of witchcraft and kabbalah

[Anonymous No.18355468]

>>18355443
>kabbalah
that's not a word

[Anonymous No.18355747]

>>18349821
Yes and no- not unless you are fluent in Chinese- the translations are all very well done.

[Anonymous No.18355761]

>>18346005
How does it make you anons feel that the rest of /lit/ thinks that you are filthy, worthless scum for indulging in genre fiction?

[Anonymous No.18355773]

>>18353609
I'm not autistic enough to feel like shit that is shit should be completed simply for completion's sake.

[Anonymous No.18355817]

>>18349869
>Cradle series by Will Wight
Hey thanks! I grabbed his first six books last fime they were free when uncrowned was new, now I have the remaining 3! Just have to read them now.

[Anonymous No.18355861]

>>18346005
Any sci fi with knights in armour? Black Library is fine but looking for something else too.

[Anonymous No.18355864]

>>18355468
?

[Anonymous No.18356199]

>>18355864
Just ignore him, anon, not that hard to do.

[Anonymous No.18356299]

>>18356199
Thinking of cancelling my Audible membership. I think I might move onto reading casually on my kindle and if I really like something, a physical book.

Anyone else using Audible want to talk me out of it? I cancelled Netflix yesterday as well. Trying to save money in general.

[Anonymous No.18356316]

>>18356299
Why are you telling us this? We don’t care.

[Anonymous No.18356328]

>>18356316
Don't listen to this asshole.
>>18356299
Physical objects such as books are more engaging, I find personally at least.

[Anonymous No.18356341]

>>18356316
People talk about audiobooks on here. Sorry for triggering you?
>>18356328
Oh I fully agree but I'm up to bookshelf number 4 in my apartment so that's why i'm saying casual reading on my kindle, physical if I really like something.

[Anonymous No.18356369]

>>18356341
Take a picture of your fantasy and science fiction books for us to judge.

[Anonymous No.18356383]

>>18356316
just filter and move on, trolls are gonna troll

[Anonymous No.18356389]

>>18356299
Thats at least over 2000 dollarydoos there mate and you don't own any of it. And you will be happy

[Anonymous No.18356487]

>>18355761
Why should we care about the opinions of others? Just read what you enjoy.

[Anonymous No.18356536]

>>18355761
How does it feel to know that no matter how much nonfiction you read you'll never become a better or more interesting person?

[Anonymous No.18356608]

>>18356536
Good.

[Anonymous No.18356630]

>>18355327
God, this is such cancer.

[Anonymous No.18356638]

>>18351791
What a sell out.

[Anonymous No.18356658]

>>18351038
>GRRM already wrote the ending decades ago.
Then why hasn't he written the other novels?

[Anonymous No.18356662]

>>18356658
Cause he’s a lazy fuck who can’t even do the bare minimum now?

[Anonymous No.18356669]

>>18356662
I thought it was because he lost track on what to write due to worldbuilding?

[Anonymous No.18356676]

>>18356669
That too, but it doesn’t matter now. Guy has earned millions now.

[Anonymous No.18356681]

>>18350819
Got to cater to the LGBTQ+ community.

[Anonymous No.18356686]

>>18350714
How does it feel to be such a beta in the modern world?

[Anonymous No.18356688]

>>18356686
you tell me, bitch

[Anonymous No.18356691]

>>18356688
He asked you first.

[Anonymous No.18356693]

>>18356691
and he's going to answer me first too, bitch

[Anonymous No.18356695]

>>18356693
>He can’t read from an electronic device.
Such a beta bitch.

[Anonymous No.18356705]

>>18349869
Isn't that free already?

[Anonymous No.18356715]

>>18355351
But that’s neither fantasy or science fiction.

[Anonymous No.18356731]

>>18346015
Meh. I say he’s a somewhat good author. But that’s about it.

[Anonymous No.18356737]

xianxia or isekai, which is the future of all science fiction and fantasy?

[Anonymous No.18356744]

>>18356737
Isekai. Xianxia relies to much on chinese mythology and other things.

[Anonymous No.18356755]

>>18356737
Isekai.

[Anonymous No.18356775]

>>18356737
Any real difference between the two?

[Anonymous No.18356782]

>>18356737
isekai has been the future for the past decade or so and much as it pains me to admit it's not going anywhere just yet

[Anonymous No.18356784]

>>18356737
>>18356744
>>18356755
>>18356775
The best is isekai into xianxia world.

[Anonymous No.18356786]

>>18356784
Sounds like a crossover more than anything.

[Anonymous No.18356788]

>>18356784
Name a few stories that do that?

[Anonymous No.18356798]

>>18356737
xianxia, when it focuses on inner growth and reaching ascension rather than physical strength and dominance

[Anonymous No.18356800]

>>18356798
The latter is alpha though.

[Anonymous No.18356802]

>>18356737
Hopefully neither. I think more fantasy should use alternate historical settings.

[Anonymous No.18356803]

>>18356788
Reverend Insanity.

[Anonymous No.18356805]

>>18356802
How can one anon be such a faggot.

[Anonymous No.18356812]

>>18356737
Isekai. I love reading fun little stories.

[Anonymous No.18356813]

>>18356805
I don't think you need to make up an entire world to have a good fantasy story. I don't think there's anything wrong with doing so, but Tolkien doing it doesn't mean you have to do it, and he did it better than you'll ever be capable of anyway.

[Anonymous No.18356814]

>>18356813
If I wanted to read alternate history. I would read alternate history novels.

[Anonymous No.18356817]

>>18356798
can't stand how psychopathic xianxia mc's are. makes the stories less interesting when they doesn't really care what happens to anyone else

[Anonymous No.18356819]

>>18356813
alternate history is boring shit for history majors and paradox forum users

[Anonymous No.18356825]

>>18356819
Then explain how The Man in the Iron Castle got a multi-season TV adaptation

[Anonymous No.18356827]

>>18356814
>>18356819
No, I don't mean like that. I mean taking a historical setting but injecting with various fantasy things and thinking about how that might change all of it. I'm not talking about historical fiction that tries to stay closely tied to fact. Maybe I'm not explaining it well.

[Anonymous No.18356833]

>>18356825
people will eat up anything about nazis bad right now and dicky man is a big name

[Anonymous No.18356851]

>>18356833
To be fair to that show, it shows the Nazis in more nuance than must shows. They actually engage with the ideas of Nazism, although through a lens of realism that serves to highlight how bad Nazism is to the regular viewer.

[Anonymous No.18356862]

>>18356827
I’ll rather read fantasy. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.18356864]

>>18356851
>it shows the Nazis in more nuance than must shows
this is only included for the history majors and paradox forum users

[Anonymous No.18356866]

>>18356827
>I mean taking a historical setting but injecting with various fantasy things and thinking about how that might change all of it.
Sounds a lot like alternate history.

[Anonymous No.18356876]

>>18356827
A song of ice and fire is alternate history. Martin even said so. The story takes place in an alternate earth.

[Anonymous No.18356880]

did sffg stop doing monthly books?

[Anonymous No.18356893]

>>18356827
In other words you can get what is functionally a separate world, but you don't have to make up place names, you can use normal sorts of character names, maps are already there for you, etc. It offloads a lot of worldbuilding work, and also means there's less info of that sort you have to convey to the reader since they'll already be familiar with some of it.
>>18356862
Can you explain to me why "fantasy" requires a completely made-up world? That's simply not the case.
>>18356866
That's why I called it that. But alternate history is normally not fantasy. I'm not talking about this sort of thing >>18356819.
>>18356876
One thing I like about his books is Westeros. It feels more real because it isn't as made-up and everything doesn't have silly made-up names. The rest of the setting is another story, of course.

[Anonymous No.18356917]

>>18356880
A long time ago.

[Anonymous No.18356930]

>>18356917
what do you do now then?

[Anonymous No.18356934]

>>18356930
Actually read books.

[Anonymous No.18356948]

>>18356893
>Can you explain to me why "fantasy" requires a completely made-up world?
Because it's fantasy?

[Anonymous No.18356951]

>>18356893
>It feels more real because it isn't as made-up and everything doesn't have silly made-up names.
You never even read the books.

[Anonymous No.18356962]

>>18356893
sounds more like you want to weasel out of having to do even the most basic worldbuilding
you know most authors worldbuild for fun and don't see it as an obstacle between them and telling the stories they want to?

[Anonymous No.18356963]

>>18356817
I think that's the appeal. A protagonist like that ever now and again is good.

[Anonymous No.18356970]

Just finished the Prince of Nothing series. Is it worth it to continue with the Aspect-Emperor series if I barely enjoyed the last book? I liked The Darkness that Comes Before, but I found every subsequent book less enjoyable. Specifically, I disliked how the prose became increasingly verbose and how much focus was given to Esmenet and Achamian, two of the most trite and, in Esmenet's case, despicable characters I've found in fiction. Am I missing out if I quit here?

[Anonymous No.18356978]

>>18356970
>Am I missing out if I quit here?
You’ll miss out the cuckoldry. Which, in my opinion, are the best in the series.

[Anonymous No.18356980]

>>18356951
I have. When I look at a name it feels like it has some basis in English and I feel like I know to pronounce it. That's what I mean.
>>18356962
I don't think that worldbuilding has intrinsic value. It's only good insofar as it contributes to the story or to the reader's immersion. It's easy for it to become an end in itself and thus a burden on the story.

[Anonymous No.18356983]

>>18356963
but it's all of them. and even then, maybe it'd be good if there was contrast, but everyone around him is also a sociopath and like completely retarded, it gets stale and just becomes blatant how much the author is using it as juvenile escapism. and I LIKE escapism, xianxia is just too blatant about it

[Anonymous No.18356988]

>>18356980
>I have. When I look at a name it feels like it has some basis in English and I feel like I know to pronounce it. That's what I mean
What the fuck did I just read? Do you even read the shit you type?

[Anonymous No.18356995]

>>18356983
Some of them are power fantasies. Which taint the genre. .

[Anonymous No.18357000]

>>18356980
>It's easy for it to become an end in itself and thus a burden on the story
Why are you even reading fantasy?

[Anonymous No.18357008]

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>>18357001

[Anonymous No.18357012]

>>18356978
Cuckolding doesn't hold any special appeal to me, but it depends on how it's used as a plot device. If it's just overindulgent like in the third book I don't mind missing out on it.

[Anonymous No.18357014]

>>18356988
If you can't figure it out that's unfortunate.
>>18357000
Not for the same reason as you, apparently.