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18321099 No.18321099 [Reply] [Original]

He's the most relevant living author. Here's how I support this claim:
>Premise 1
That which defined the 21st century is that which is discussed on this website; 4chan is the id of society as it allows for unfiltered discussion of things the libtard matrix doesn't want you to know
>Premise 2
Houellebecq is the most 4chanesque writer for his non-libtardian treatment of burning topics like inceldom, Islam and the decline of Europe and Western civilization
>Conclusion
Houellebecq is the most relevant living writer and the one that most accurately represents the era we live in

>> No.18321113

i hate this guy. one would say that the entire point of extension is to convince me that women owe me sex.

>> No.18321119

>>18321113
Faggot

>> No.18321135
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Modern pride: I have lost the friendship of a man I esteemed, having insistently reminded him I was more degenerate than he.

In vain the West seeks a form of final agony worthy of its past.

Don Quixote represents a civilization’s youth: he made up events; — and we don’t know how to escape those besetting us.

The East has consulted flowers and renunciation. Our response? Machines and effort, and that galloping melancholy — the West’s last spasm.

How sad to see great nations begging for a little extra future!

Our epoch will be marked by the romanticism of the stateless. Already apparent is the image of a universe in which no one will have droit de cité.
Inside every citizen nowadays lies a future alien.

A millennium of warfare consolidated the West; a century of “psychology” has ripped it to tatters.

>> No.18321174

>>18321113
So?

>> No.18321188

i liked the part in submission where the girl licked the professor's asshole. it was so libidinal and really made me think about society

>> No.18321209

>>18321099
>>18321113
retarded
>>18321188
based

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>>18321099
>He's the most relevant living author.
He's certainly the most relevant for this board.

>> No.18321282 [DELETED] 

>>18321099
blackpill midwit stuff. Nae bad, nae that good

>> No.18321289

>>18321099
blackpill midwit stuff. Nae bad, nae that good. Knaussgard is better european depression-core

>> No.18321300

He's not actually going to make it many years beyond his lifetime. His books offer nothing timeless. It's all so ephemeral and uncomfortable that time will shutter up his legacy before it even has a chance to be a legacy.

>> No.18321312

>>18321300
pretty sure he was just in it for the pussy from the start

>> No.18321381

>>18321099
he's more like a proto figure who has not fully diagnosed the incel problem at all because doing so would mean mean that some people( ethnics like chinks and pajeets) have it much worser than others and that could derail his previously held opinions and stance. I don't know if he's genuinely sympathetic to men or just a political showman trying to steal the spotlight. The only people who could be genuinely honest about this problem of inceldom would be biologists and evolutionary psychologists

>> No.18321451

>>18321381
why is everyone implying that the world cares about involuntary celibacy,??? nobody cares. it's not his job to properly diagnose it

>> No.18321623

>>18321451
oh boy o boy,what do u get when a have a society with loads of disenfranchised men?WAR ,be it civil war or war with other nations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4Qk3cgUxCs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmGxmXR6HXo

>> No.18321655

>>18321300
>>18321312
this
He is beloved by those who do not read that much

>> No.18321721

>>18321300
... And yet he's still the best current author

>> No.18321961

>>18321113
not the point at all. the point was that nature and society aren't gonna hand out good lives to everybody and there's nothing you can do about it.

>> No.18321993

>>18321300
Elementary particles have all the potential to end up in canon if it still be a thing.

>> No.18321996

>>18321300
>uncomfortable
yeah, as we know, only "comfortable" books pass the test of time

>> No.18322028
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>>18321099
>most relevant living author
Pic related is the most relevant in Europe. Most relevant living authors are likely Pynchon or McCarthy. Writing bland, half-distopic political drivel does not make you relevant. Except for his first two books, most of his "prophecies" got old very quickly

>> No.18322046

>>18322028
Krasznahorkai is mostly known as "that Tarr guy", and the two Yanks you mentioned peaked well before the 21st century began.

>> No.18322057

>>18322028
>bland, half-distopic political drivel
Submission's final pages are quite subtle
>his "prophecies" got old very quickly
story is set in 2022, book was published in 2015.

>> No.18322083

>>18321099
I can't believe the ugly goblin was at one point actually quite cute looking.

>> No.18322139

>>18322083
it's shooped. there are actual photographies of him in his 20s.

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>>18322139

>> No.18322378

>>18321300
120 days of sodom and Therese Raquin are still popular

>> No.18322396

>>18322028
>Most relevant living authors
>americans

>> No.18322424

>>18322318
He looks sad and defeated.

>> No.18322499

>>18321099
>relevant
relevancy is irrelevant to art

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>>18321113
Some other anon made a great post in the previous thread that I screenshot when on my phone

>> No.18322543

>>18322028
Platform, his third book, is 100% correct, arguably the best.
Possibility of an Island and La Carte and le Territoire are great, the first not really "political". The second is very political in an extended sense but people outside Paris or tourist spots won't even see it that way.
His prophecies get old because they become true. In fact they aren't prophecies at all, merely descriptions that many people don't want to see.

>> No.18322546

>>18322499
He'll represent the thought of the early 21st century in future textbooks

>> No.18322582

>>18321099
>4chan is the id of society as it allows for unfiltered discussion of things the libtard matrix doesn't want you to know
my sides

>> No.18322588

>>18321099
No one ITT reads enough of anything and it’s embarrassing.

>> No.18322592

>>18322582
it's true though

>> No.18322599

>>18321113
based extension

>> No.18322604

>>18322526
And youth is a symbol of good health and fertility.Houellebecq deliberately tries to ignore biology and does not wish to confront the harsh reality of life.Look at his own personal life for that matter which is what ultimately influenced him to write incel tier books.

Forcing women to have sex with genetic subhumans or old ,creepy men would only give rise to genetically fucked up children.It's better that chads spread their seed and improve the genetic quality of the population.

>> No.18322615

>>18322604
>Forcing women to have sex with genetic subhumans or old ,creepy men would only give rise to genetically fucked up children.It's better that chads spread their seed and improve the genetic quality of the population.
Enjoy living in Africa 2.0 as monogamy goes to shit and reproduction becomes a luxury of a handful of warlords who hoard all the women while the rest of society burns down

>> No.18322647

>>18322615

>warlords
>Africa 2.0

Explain how kikes got such a high iq boost in their population retard.
Now u may say that kikes are also genetically predisposed to be schizophernic or suffer from other mental illnesses thx to inbreeding and that is true,however their inbreeding was rather too much or abnormal than the levels of normal polygamous relationships where women are hypergamous as fuck and that's due to christian societies prohibiting inter religious relationships.Heck it's because of hypergamy and polygamy that we ended up evolving more cognitively sophisticated from our ancestors who lived six million years ago and ended up conquering the entire world .

>> No.18322668

>>18322647
>Explain how kikes got such a high iq boost in their population retard.
They had monogamy, they didn't have looks-based eugenics, they were constantly pogromed leading to culling of less shrewd ones and survival of crafty ones, they had protocol-heavy holy books like Talmud which teaches you to think like a lawyer, etc.

>> No.18322708

>>18322647
You're delusional if you think kikes over the centuries went against incel ideology. They were arguably the most repressive of female sexuality and sex-related aspirations of all the literate people in the world. They make the Chinese look feminist.
In their ritual praise to G-d, they thank Him for making them human and not a animal, a chosen and not a gentile but also, emphatically, a male and not a woman.
They were also effectively monogamous, at least among the people that would be recognized as true Jews, not counting slaves.

>> No.18322731

>>18322668
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1336798/

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/01/060117083446.htm

If u're a jewish father u would mostly force ur daughter to marry a rabbi or a rich man even if he's polygamous .Monogamy did exist but it was thx to polygamy that accelerated their cognitive capabilities.

sort of related:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yuq1gu2CEm8

>> No.18322786

>>18322731
So, arranged marriages and polygamy could be very eugenic. Jews are one of the ugliest peoples but they managed to conquer the world with their high IQs.

>> No.18322804

>>18322786
Correct, eugenics can be very useful when socially motivated and favors payoff in the long term vs short term gratification

>> No.18322894

>>18322786
it's as i had said b4,the polygamy aspect became unecessarily abnormal because inter religious relationships was strictly prohibited.Moreover I have to also accept the fact that since jews were indirectly forced to work in occupations demanding high iq like banking,jewish society and culture favoured people who were dominant in those fields and those who were not the top dogs would not be favoured or would get killed in some religious persecution if he had low iq.

This kind of thing also happened during the early agricultural revolution but it was dialed upto 11 where 1 man would have 5 or 10 women.Polygamy is nature's norm and monogamy is relatively a very new thing created by humans and primarily during the christian era in the hopes of having a sustainable and stable society . However the plague got rolled over and wiped out nearly half the continent indicating just how pathetic made up christian values were.Some are great and I won't deny that such as being honest but those value were already preached by the greeks and romans and others that were original to christianity.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40224881-at-our-wits-end

tbqh,men dug their own genetic graves thinking that supporting free love and feminism would give them oppurtunities to have multiple women and would not have to think twice about cheating their wife or gf or that even if women had multiple partners,all men will still have the oppurtunity to have sex because of the false notion that women would preach "free and equal love".Couple that with women's "support" for blacks and minorities and ur stupid beliefs and pre concieved notions about women get reinforced even more.As time progressed,the true nature of women revealed itself starting with surge of divorce cases by women from the late 90s to what u see today.

>> No.18322916

>>18322894
>a disease wiped out a big part of the population therefore monogamy=bad
way to go, smoothbrain

>> No.18322959

>>18322916
that's not my argument retard.What I'm indirectly trying to say is if u've got a huge population with low iq and bad genes that's primarily due to monogamy,expect a perfect shit storm.The only solution for ensuring ur population is equipped with good genes is polygamy i.e. allowing only the top dogs to breed.

>> No.18322988

>>18322959
>The only solution for ensuring ur population is equipped with good genes is polygamy i.e. allowing only the top dogs to breed
and these top dogs couldn't breed in a monogamy because...?

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Who else is listening to the French audio books?

>> No.18323007

>>18321099
he is cringe and so are the french

>> No.18323051

>>18322988
they couldn't breed en masse beecause doing so would mean having a huge population of jealous men and soldiers who'll back stab u.

>> No.18323060

>>18323051
>beecause doing so would mean having a huge population of jealous men and soldiers who'll back stab u
>jealous men
anon, most people today don't buy into the whole incel blackpill shit, they're bluepill

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>>18322604
1/2

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>>18322604
2/2

>> No.18323178

>>18321099
You're quite deluded if you think discussion here is unfiltered. 4chan is just another bubble with the same characteristics as the "libtard matrix". It's literally the same just painted in different colors, e.g. you can't voice an anti-racist/anti-sexist/anti-whateverisedgy enough without being called reddit/bait.

>> No.18323188

>>18322959
>The only solution for ensuring ur population is equipped with good genes is [...] allowing only the top dogs to breed.
Correct
>polygamy ie
No.
You will only get "good genes" by having both top fathers and mothers.
A very slim case could be made out of women having a slightly tighter distribution in IQ or "achievement" but not even close to justify polygamy on this front because of the extremely uncontinuous granularity of going from even one to two wives.
So monogamy with upper women having more children than lower ones. That's the real issue at play. Promoting polygamy (especially polygyny) is just following the chimp/gorilla primate level sexual gratification instincts (of both men and women). If any single sided polygamy were to happen for eugenics it would be polyandry, since you'd get the same mixed genetic results while having to restrict women instead of men. Underfucked or sterilized women would be a nuisance but less dangerous than male incels, plus ensuring (partial) participation in society of men lead to much more result than doing so for women. Of course it runs against human sexuality, men would have the impression of being cucks and women of not belonging, but we're talking about schizo plans of eugenics. Besides monogamy with sterilization of the plebs would still be the best plan.

You get a mass example of this by comparing the Anglo to the Iberic methods of colonization. Anglos massacred natives, forced English women (often against their wishes) to go to the colonies to make Anglo babies. True in South Africa, Australia/NZ, Canada. Only in the southern US and west indies did the black slave presence cause a shift but the mixed races were often pushed aside on the black side of society (plus those parts of the Anglo empire largely turned into shitholes).
Meanwhile Portuguese and Spaniards had harems with one (technically monogamous) European wife and like an indigenous and one black slave to go (the mulattos being semi-integrated into colonial society).
Guess which of the two leads to better results in the long run?

>> No.18323224

>>18323086
>>18323092

I agree with u with the fact that it's the betas that keep the entire "civilization" or "economic machine" running and would only do so if they have the incentives.The problem is u also run the risk of mass producing people with inferior genes .

>>18323188
The reason why women would not subjected to similar constraints is because ovaries are a rare commodity compared to sperm .Moreover women also have a limited window of time to produce healthy children so a society better protect almost every women at all costs except for the truly degenerate that is.

>> No.18323254

>>18323224
>The reason why women would not subjected to similar constraints is because ovaries are a rare commodity compared to sperm .Moreover women also have a limited window of time to produce healthy children so a society better protect almost every women at all costs except for the truly degenerate that is.
That argument, even should it be true, is not significant compared to what I wrote above.
It is also plainly false. Humans, even in prehistoric times, were not restricted by this. It is completely ridiculous to invoke it today.
We are not even close to full capacity at either male or female side of reproduction. Women can easily have 20 children with modern hygiene and medical support. Only, and I insist, only above this fertility rate would the argument of "more sperm than eggs" be significant. Even in the first generation of the eugenic plan, such a rate would be enough to guarantee constant population by only allowing the top 10% to reproduce.
I don't know of any plan of eugenics that wishes for this runaway demographic inflation.

>> No.18323258

>>18323188
>incels
>dangerous
anon, i...

>> No.18323599

>>18321623
Cringe

>> No.18323642

What's the deal with french people smoking cigarettes between the middle and ring finger?

>> No.18324688

>>18321099
Would Serotonin be the best one to start with?