Getting started in philosophy

[Anonymous No.18277161]

I'm really interested in philosophy, specifically western thought but I dont know exactly where to start since it seems everything builds off each other. What should I start with, Hegel?

[Anonymous No.18277253]

Get a book that covers the history of philosophy. If youre interested in a thinker, it helps to have at least a small grasp of the ideas of his predecessors. I dont know much about Hegel specifically so maybe another anon can help you out better than I can in regards to him

[Anonymous No.18277277]

>>18277161
>"I'm really interested in philosophy, specifically western thought but I dont know exactly where to start since it seems everything builds off each other. What should I start with the giga-retard obscurantist that is notoriously hard to comprehend?"
I would recommend against it, anon. Why not start with Plato? If you are really keen to get to the modern stuff, go with Nietzsche.

[Anonymous No.18277290]

>>18277161
LEARN GREEK YOU FAGGOT

[Anonymous No.18277413]

>>18277161
I would say start with a history of Philosophy to see where your interest lies as >>18277253
said. Then, go back and study hard into Plato and Aristotle since most Philosophers built off both of them in their own way. That should give you an okay grounding to start kinda wherever you want. If you're looking to learn Hegel than acquaint yourself with the rationalist/empiricist divide before reading into Kant/Fichte. Then you should be able to see what Hegels obscure ass system is responding to.

[Anonymous No.18277511]

>>18277161
PLATO u fucking mingmong that's where you start.

[Anonymous No.18277516]

Just end right before Cartesian thought

[Anonymous No.18277530]

>>18277161
Read some intro to Presocratics, then Plato and Aristotle before anything else.

[Anonymous No.18277546]

>>18277161
Start with what you like but Hegel is better for after a course in the history of philosophy.

Plato is a really good start. The presocratics are nice, but you can save them to after a bit of Plato so just take the complete plato and read.

[Anonymous No.18277792]

>>18277161
read calvin and hobbes

[Anonymous No.18278465]

>>18277161
there's really nothing of value in philosophy outside of aphorisms. Read those, they're like tweets, and then move on

[Anonymous No.18278498]

>>18277161
Read at least the first 3 volumes of Frederick Copleston's A History of Philosophy.

[Anonymous No.18278748]

>>18277161
screw the Platoists and starting from the beginning crap:-D
Start with Pirsig and work backward so you can read that early stuff in a critical context

[Anonymous No.18278770]

You have to read the Greeks. I tried to start with Nietzsche and though I did it, uh kind of, it was really hard constantly looking up references to the Greeks.

Enlightenment, cointer-Eiightenment, post-Enlightenment, Marx (his thesis was on Epicurus), Shakespeare - everyone is constantly invoking the fucking god damn Greeks. I swear there are more retrenches/metaphors/analogies to the Greeks than there are to Christianity. It can be difficult to understand a philosopher who writes his entire work through the lens of a hypothesis presented by Plato in one of the dialogues. Also, Aristotle and Plato basically created the meanings of concepts and people are either affirming or denying these meanings originally set out by them.

Just do it. Start with the republic. I’m serious, just start with the f’n Greeks.

[Anonymous No.18278775]

>>18278498
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