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Thoughts and opinions of this man?
I'm having trouble narrowing down his stance on psychoanalysis and theosophy, as he seems to be in conversations with those ideas.
Also recommendations on where to start with his fiction would be appreciated, because orientalist adventures are based.

>> No.18274900

>>18274859
>I'm having trouble narrowing down his stance on psychoanalysis and theosophy, as he seems to be in conversations with those ideas.

Read his journals. He politely engages with members of both of these camps because they are fascinated by many of the same things that fascinate him, but he finds most of them lacking in substance.

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18275599

>>18274859
I find him excellent. I particularly enjoyed his 'History of Religous Ideas' series, and his sourcebook 'From Primatives to Zen' (though it is frustrating he did not include Christian and Jewish sources). I heard he very good in the studies of shamanism, but iv never read any of his books devoted to that subject

>> No.18276334

>>18274859
he hated both. i made a chart of the order to read, should be able to find it floating around somewhere

>> No.18276505

>>18276334
What were his reasons for his dislike of both?

>> No.18277409

>>18276334
do you have it saved, I couldn't find it on the wiki

>> No.18277740

>>18274900
>>18276334
big relief thank you
>>18276505
probably because theosophy isn't a genuine... anything
and jungian psychoanalysis does strange things with neoalchemy

>> No.18278846

>>18277740
I agree with both, but I just wondering if thats what Eliade said

>> No.18278874

>>18276505
Eliade was a crypto-Traditionalist, but I don't know if critiqued them in a similar manner.

>> No.18279947

bump

>> No.18279963

>>18274859
Jung was not taking his passive aggressiveness:

https://carljungdepthpsychologysite.blog/2020/07/15/carl-jung-letter-to-mircea-eliade/#.YKZJ_qgzbIU

>> No.18280365

>>18279963
such are the fruits of the romanian temperament
>jung an adherent of the natural sciences
lmao

>> No.18280454

>>18274859
He is a neo-Platonist soft traditionalist. He's more like Jung than a historian of ideas, since he's identifying what he thinks are metaphysically real archetypal symbols and then finding them in every culture. No one is "Eliadean" anymore - his influence is so huge mainly because his system stood in for the non-stadial, pluralistic, vaguely hermeneutic "moment" of the 1960s, and he fostered a lot of graduate theses on this basis. Neo-Mullerianism, basically, but not as subtle or methodologically complex as the Mullerian philology/mythology stuff in the 19th century. Compare something by Eliade with the work of the Grimm brothers for example. Eliade has less perspective because he is a hodgepodge of hermetic currents.

But contemporary academia is a thousand times worse than him ("religious studies" as such does not exist anymore because that field has been completely subusmed into cultural anthropology, since contemporary academia does not accept "religious" as such existing as a discrete category, but as a set of cultural practices and traditions, read Geertz ("culture : the stories we tell ourselves about ourselves.") to see where this comes from.) so all things considered he's not bad.