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So I’m thinking of diving into philosophy, before I start with the Greeks I was looking for a general overview.

Is this a good one?

>> No.18261209

>>18261190
I've seen it around but honestly think you should just go with Russell's history of philosophy or just pick up some 101 textbook overview. It's one of those things where you just want to start with a subject that interests you and roll out from there.

>> No.18261227

>>18261190
I saw it mentioned here and someone said its the best introduction to philosophy. I got interested in it too, looks like a good start to me, always had an interest in philosophic discourse but didn't had the power and time to dive in thick books of some greek retard jerking off and writing with his cum, this look like it will give a general overview and I can choose where to jump next.

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>>18261190
>>18261209

Not sure, But copleston’s history of philosophy is very good. its succinct yet encompassing, really does explain the essence of different philosophies and periods, as well as notes seperate interpretations of specific schools and indiviguals, its not too attached to its own thesis.

you can tell he is a thomist, but he doesnt allow his own thesis to cloud separate ones and it really attempts to explain the different “mindsets” throughout history. very wholistic in its praxis.

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>>18261190
>he didn't start with the greeks

>> No.18261285

>>18261279
doesnt the book basically start with the greeks anyways?

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>>18261190
The Consolation of Philosophy. Provides a select overview & history of a few notable philosophers with their attempts at cope of the human condition.

https://youtu.be/IdJwijjnbsI

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Link related. Also, Philosophize This! is pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yat0ZKduW18

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>>18261285
>noooooo its the illiad and the odyssasu

>> No.18261314

>>18261288
>attempts at cope of the human condition.
>prescriptive attempt to define the purpose of philosophy
sounds kind of cringe and narrow as an overveiw ngl when that subject itself is within the topic of philosophy and not without.

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>>18261227
>>18261260
>>18261288

Appreciate it.

>> No.18261411

>>18261314
I was being flippant about the book, but I would say it is a decent primer.

>> No.18261807

>>18261209
Russell's History is a problematic book. It's not much a textbook of a history of philosophy, as it is his own personal take on the matter. This leads him to some highly questionable decisions in regards to which authors he will speak of or give credit (regardless of how much influence they actually had).

>>18261190
Durant's book is great. It's more "objective" than Russell's and pleasantly written. However, it's objectiveness is very much a product of his time, and he will mostly ignores some of the greats, in favor of some now forgotten figures - for example no Descart or Hume, but a lengthy exposition of Spencer (who had died no so long before the publication of the book and did enjoy some popularity, but his work and influence has now dissolved into nothingness).

A rather complete and measured exposition of western philosophy can be found in Anthony Kenny - A New History of Western Philosophy. It's a rather thick volume, be aware; it was originally published in four books.

>> No.18261819

>>18261807
>Durant's book is great. It's more "objective" than Russell's
Really? I haven't read the Russell book but Durant struck me as very biased. He blatantly says that he dislikes epistemology, for instance.

>> No.18261933

>>18261306
I like this guy but in some of his episodes he comes off as so excessively pompous that I have to turn it off

>> No.18261946

>>18261190
The Durants are based; their history book that's like 100 pages long is amazing

>> No.18262736

>>18261819
You're right, which just goes to show how biased Russel's book really is

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A History of philosophy without any gaps by Peter Adamson (the books and podcast).

https://historyofphilosophy.net/all-episodes

https://www.amazon.com/Classical-Philosophy-history-philosophy-without/dp/0199674531

>> No.18264264

>>18261209
Russell’s book is a masterwork of prose writing. A joy to read. It makes philosophy riveting.