Semen Retention

[Anonymous No.18242824]

Let’s discuss literature with SR themes. What books do you know that focus on this subject? I’ve read Coiled Serpent, which I think is good for beginners, and the Bible includes many secret references to it, as in the Garden of Eden, for example.

[Anonymous No.18242832]

What supposed benefits are there? I felt the exact same during my two-month no fap streak as I do when I coom thrice daily

[Anonymous No.18242834]

>>18242824
Yeah the story with Onan justifies not wanking I think. Also Paul admonishing those who are sexually immoral

[Anonymous No.18242871]

>>18242832
The conversation of chemical energy, prevention of excessive prolactin in the body, and healthy regulation of dopamine are reasons enough.

[࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇ !KNDY/Ar.iI No.18242886]

THE AVERAGE VULGAR IS SO DEGENERATED THAT THEY NO LONGER ASK: «WHY MASTURBATE?», BUT, RATHER: «WHY NOT TO MASTURBATE?»; «WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS OF NOT MASTURBATING?» INSTEAD OF: «HOW DETRIMENTAL IS MASTURBATION?», ORGASMING THEIR LIFEESSENCE AWAY, WONDERING HOW THEY CAME TO BE LIVING DEAD.

[Anonymous No.18243253]

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[Anonymous No.18243292]

[Anonymous No.18243335]

>>18242824
All semen retention does is aggravate and create a false sense of elitism.

[Anonymous No.18243341]

I feel fantastic after cumming idk what people are on about

[࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇ !KNDY/Ar.iI No.18243464]

>All semen retention does is aggravate and create a false sense of elitism.

>I feel fantastic after cumming idk what people are on about

[Anonymous No.18243472]

>>18243464
this chicano is unable to bust a fat nut inside a filipino slut

[Anonymous No.18243845]

>>18243341
you haven’t tried nofap seriously

[Anonymous No.18243898]

Cumming makes me tired and lethargic. As if I’ve lost all my energy, which is why I avoid it during the day. It’s hard to fall asleep though without rubbing one out. Is that why I can’t wake up on time in the morning? I’ll literally sleep through alarms or be so groggy and half asleep I don’t even realize I turned the alarm off. And this is while trying to get 6-8 hours. Should I pop a melatonin instead of jerking it?

[Anonymous No.18244085]

Convince me nofap isn't an auto-homoerotic attempt to remain prepubescent.

[Anonymous No.18244215]

>>18243898
I find it hard to wake up on time after an evening of wanking. The intense feeling of self-disgust and post nut clarity doesn’t help either

[Anonymous No.18244256]

>>18243898
>>18244215
I do whatever I want, the world changes to accommodate me.

[Anonymous No.18244673]

>>18243335
My confidence has increased significantly since practicing SR, even with relapses every now and then. I also feel like absolute shit when I relapse, and this isn’t just a product of guilt, but physically I know I’m weaker. I don’t know I adapted to daily cooming in my teens

[Anonymous No.18244737]

>>18242886
True

[Anonymous No.18244838]

I felt tired almost all the time when I fapped daily. That "mission accomplished" feeling after a nut is great but if im not actually achieving anything im only celebrating failure rather than true success.
I used to think that masterbation kept me in check, like i was keeping a nature within me under control but now I understand that the nature im suppressing is what drives life energy. Im therefore not truly alive when I cum to make believe things. The French call it the "Little Death" for a reason I suppose.
We can all do it bros. We call all become powerful again as we once were. Day 4 of nofap is imo the hardest to pass but after that you see enormous change, especially on day 7.
This is all very real. You just need to start.

[Anonymous No.18244913]

>>18242824
I get fucking antsy and edgy after day 3 I could fuck anything. I stopped counting however and it’s doing the trick

[Anonymous No.18244943]

I jacked off 1-4+ times a day from like 14 to ~27 along with sex every few days for the periods I wasn’t single. I was single and I decided to try nofap and after a few false starts I went a little over 4 months. I noticed no fucking difference except I had a little more free time.

Now I’m working more hours so I only jerk once every few days. Whatever, I call shenanigans on this garbage.

[Anonymous No.18244982]

>>18244943
your body was probably trying to recover from years of self-abuse. What you’re doing is not natural

[Anonymous No.18245040]

>>18244982
What else is there to gain though? Stable relationship for 9 years now, stable career, workout 4 days a week, just doing what I need to do. I’m not shooting it down completely despite how I worded my previous comment, but the prospective results of retention do strike me as a bit overblown. I can understand it being a worthwhile endeavor for someone who has no sense of control over any aspect of their lives to gain a little more footing, though.

[Anonymous No.18245077]

>>18242832
How is that possible? You have low t levels or what?

[Anonymous No.18245198]

>>18244673
Your confidence is up because your agitation is up.

>I also feel like absolute shit when I relapse
Either you're fapping too hard or you should have a doctor look at your levels.

[Anonymous No.18245239]

>>18242832
It feels "moral" and thus ill convince my body and myself that its doing me good, which will bring some benefits

[Anonymous No.18245284]

>>18245040
>I can understand it being a worthwhile endeavor for someone who has no sense of control over any aspect of their lives to gain a little more footing, though

This is really the only explanation I can conceive of for the whole thing. No-Fappers seem to have no consistent core reasoning for what they do, and seem to basically get off on the 'virtue' of denying themselves pleasure, in the belief that this makes them stronger and more worthy people. Some of them will say that 'semen retention' is what matters, for various reasons (some say it's nutrient loss that matters, but then can't explain why supplements wouldn't work to counter this, other say hormones), but then can't explain why having sex in a relationship isn't problematic. So others will that that the goal is to "gain discipline so you have the confidence to get a woman", with having sex being an actual for them, despite this being completely counter to the semen retention crowd. Others will say that it's "getting over porn addiction", that matters, and that sex and masturbation are both completely ok as long as you aren't jacking off to other people, though many are ok with using their imaginations.

There is just no fundamental reason to believe that this is 'good', as so many different goals, both secular and religious, are proposed, most of which have little similarity in their reasoning or motivation. This is not to say that this *can't* be beneficial to anyone, and many people may have developed bad habits and psychological dependencies that may be best resolved through self control, and so it may well be good for them. But the idea that it's a universal good that *must* result in great benefit to anyone who undertakes in in all these ways is just completely incoherent and supported mostly by random blabbering.

[Anonymous No.18245290]

>>18245077
isnt being horny all the time a sign of high t

[Anonymous No.18245296]

>>18245290
Or just a sign of addiction to orgasm

[Anonymous No.18245625]

>>18243898
Take my advice asshole

Stop eating before bed, cold room, dim lights hours before bed, no screens before bed

[Anonymous No.18245629]

>>18245040
Mental fluidity. It feels good being sharper than all humans

[Anonymous No.18245654]

>>18242824
What are some interesting points that the coiled serpent points out?

[Anonymous No.18245676]

Please stay on topic. Why does this always happen. If SR didn’t work for you, we don’t need you to tell us. Not what this thread is about

[Anonymous No.18245808]

>>18242832
You might have fat on your heart, lack of blood, anemia, or hormone problems, eat healthier and get some exercise, your body is fucked.

[Anonymous No.18246257]

>>18245284
Thank you anon, solidified my thoughts here

[Anonymous No.18246277]

>>18245676
>If SR didn’t work for you, we don’t need you to tell us.

But that is useful information, which you should take into account if you want to be honest about the potential benefits.

[Anonymous No.18246318]

It seems to improve mental sharpness. It could be a placebo of course, but until said is replicable under any conditions, noting this in itself is worthless.

[Anonymous No.18246395]

>>18244673
You mearly adapted to the cooming, I was born of it.

[Anonymous No.18246401]

>>18244085
Giving up porn pretty much removed the overwhelming desire or pressure to masturbate. With a discipline or focus on something else, no longer need to fap.

[Anonymous No.18246403]

>>18244085
what does this mean

[Anonymous No.18246407]

>>18244838
>Drives life energy
Go read you i cheng faggot, your trading one set of chains for another, be free and do as you like. If this is how you want to live, good, but do it because you want to not to appease some etherial metaspiritual concept.

[Anonymous No.18246415]

>>18245296
Thats like being addicted to pooping. Just stop pooping.

[Anonymous No.18246447]

>>18246415
Coomer cope

[Anonymous No.18246468]

>>18246447
You never enjoy a good poop, you don't feel light and satisfied after, you only do it alone, unless you are sick you shouldn't "need" to poop.

[Anonymous No.18246486]

>>18246468
The cumbrain meme truly is real

[Anonymous No.18246726]

>>18246486
The longer you wait, the better it is, the more satisfying, more to clean but worth the effort. Diet plays a role, a contributing factor to the overall experience, working out can enhance the pleasure. More muscle, less effort.

[Anonymous No.18247005]

>>18243898
You've got POIS. Google it up.
I have nearly cured it

[Anonymous No.18247109]

>>18242824
>Let’s discuss literature with SR themes
no, thank you.

[Anonymous No.18247195]

>>18246277
No we are talking about BOOKS that discuss the subject.

[Anonymous No.18247338]

Scholastic and Aristotelian natural law theory is the only correct way to look at sexual ethics.

[Anonymous No.18247342]

>>18247338
Recc?

[Anonymous No.18247431]

>>18245077
I'm not the anon who posted that, but my record is even longer, 105 days.

And nothing happened. Libido went back and forth a few times but that's it.

Above average t levels btw, I am extremely hairy and generally in good health.
No idea why didn't it work.

[Anonymous No.18247449]

>>18247342
Good introductions below. Natural law theory should be distinguished between the ancients/medievals and the moderns imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdhsVXyuadc
http://www.nlnrac.org/classical
http://www.nlnrac.org/classical/aquinas

[Anonymous No.18247450]

>>18242824
Y'all niggas ain't ready fo dis

[Anonymous No.18247542]

>>18247449
>he posted a classical atheist link
ADS leads to atheism dummy did you not know that? Watch jay dyer

[Anonymous No.18247549]

>>18242832
>What supposed benefits are there?
Prostate cancer at 25, what else?

[Anonymous No.18247629]

there's no real benefits to "semen retention," if anything long period without nutting reduces sperm quality. most of this focuses on semen as some vague mystical life energy or whatever, it's weird and cultic. nofap can benefit someone if they lack self-control and masturbate excessively, but for most people there's no reason not to fap every once in a while to relieve horniness/stress or simply to feel good.

[Anonymous No.18247831]

>>18247542
>the jd question
answered
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkIfo15jV-8

[Anonymous No.18247839]

>>18247542
https://eclecticanecdotes.com/2020/07/church-fathers-divine-simplicity

[Anonymous No.18247884]

>>18242824
>read entire thread
>come to no serious conclusion
mfw

[Anonymous No.18247982]

>>18247629
Sucks you missed out on the benefits. It’s not the same for everyone.

[Anonymous No.18248005]

>>18247884
>read entire thread
>now I want to masturbate
Why

[Anonymous No.18248012]

>>18247839
So God’s love is the same as God’s anger? ADS states that all of God’s attributes are identical to his essence right?

[Anonymous No.18248016]

>>18247831
>supporting interfaith prayer meetings with voodoo practitioners and Apache shaman

[Anonymous No.18248019]

>>18248016
This is a direct result of ADS, we all worship the same god right? That’s why Francis told a boy that his atheist dad can be saved.

[Anonymous No.18248061]

>>18247338
>natural law theory is the only correct way to look at sexual ethics.
wtf are you smoking, anon?

[Anonymous No.18248210]

>>18248016
>Pope does bad and imprudent thing.
Wow you really got us this time. Catholicism is over.

>>18248061
Whats the problem?

[Anonymous No.18248825]

>>18248210
Yes now follow the example of your pope and go pray with your local witch doctor

[Anonymous No.18248865]

>>18248825
You are sounding like a protestant orthobro

>“It is by the saints, and not by the mediocre, still less by the great sinners, that the Church is to be judged. It may seem a loading of the dice to demand that any institution be judged solely by its best members, but in this instance it is not. A medicine must be judged not by those who buy it but by those who actually take it. A Church must be judged by those who hear and obey, not by those who half-hear and disobey when obedience is difficult.”

[Anonymous No.18248900]

>>18248865
Yes so is Pope Francis not the best of the Catholic Church? How can a pope affirm or commit heresy? Your own Saints said that to pray at the tomb of Mohamed (ie a mosque) is heresy. And indeed your popes have done that. So are we to judge them as heretics?

[Anonymous No.18248927]

>>18248900
Where in the history of the Catholic Church has it been said that the doctrine of the papacy entails that the pope cannot sin? I'm sure you are aware of ex cathedra.

[Anonymous No.18248961]

>>18248927
Sin is different from apostasy. There are acts that warrant immediate, automatic excommunication. These include procuring an abortion, violating the seal of the confessional, but above all heresy and apostasy. Praying at a mosque is apostasy (according to Aquinas) == automatic excommunication == not a valid Pope.

[Anonymous No.18249248]

>>18246403
Semen retention looks like self obsessed men attempting to return to a prepubescent state by rejecting the ejaculatory function: believing it will endow them with extended youth and special powers.

[Anonymous No.18249278]

>>18248961
>according to Aquinas
Show me where Aquinas says Popes should be excommunicated because they kiss a gift that happened to be the Koran. Aquinas also isn't infallible. The situation where JPII kissed the Koran is specific and nuanced, and in no way gives an air of indifferentism towards Islam. Nor does it show that the JPII agreed with the Koran or that the Catholic Church supports Islam or is indifferent towards any other religion. It was a mistake and unoptical at best and imprudent at worst. I'm not going to leave the Church that Jesus Christ said the gates of hell shall not prevail against because of the imprudence of a Pope. And for future reference I don't believe anything a Pope does can invalidate the truth of the Catholic Church, whos dogmas are unchangeable until the end of time.

[Anonymous No.18250293]

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[Anonymous No.18251397]

>>18242824
>all these neophytes yammering on about semen retention
where are my learned poop retention sages at

[Anonymous No.18251408]

>>18247982
try poop retention, it's like semen retention times ten. a lot harder too

[Anonymous No.18251494]

>>18245284
What do you think is the most retarded thing you could get nofappers to do if you dressed it up in mysticism and so ydoscience? It would have to be something that vaguely plays on their insecurities, something to blame unrelated personal failings on. Then you solve it with one weird trick. Perhaps you could get one to slam their head against a wall repeatedly by telling them "physical trauma is a prerequisite to manhood. Take the head slam pill". Something about neurons becoming more tolerant to pain or whatever.

[Anonymous No.18252088]

>>18247005
>The symptoms of POIS may be generalized, or may "cluster" in certain areas of the body (i.e. individual men report their symptoms only affect their head, eyes, nose, throat, or muscles). Clusters of symptoms that have been reported include:[2]

>Cluster 1 (general cluster): extreme fatigue, palpitations, problems finding words, incoherent speech (dysarthria), concentration difficulties, becoming irritated, aversion to noises, light sensibility (photophobia), depressed mood

Oh fuck I literally tick all the boxes. I'm going to start nofap right now. I've got nothing to lose so I might as well see if it works.

[Anonymous No.18252104]

i converted to catholicism yesterday and have not masturbated since. i feel like a god

[Anonymous No.18252162]

>>18242871
>not realizing that high prolactin is better than high dopamine when you seek to read and write all day
That's why all of you are retarded

[Anonymous No.18252734]

>>18252162
Why is it better? Unironically questioning.

[Anonymous No.18253859]

May the future participants in this thread discuss literature, amen

[Anonymous No.18254142]

This is a movie but eyes wide shut is literally what it feels like to be on nofap, and watching it on a long streak was trippy

[Anonymous No.18254202]

>>18252162
>high prolactin is better than high dopamine when you seek to read and write all day
Ever heard of amphetamines? Yeah they raise dopamine and drop prolactin. Same with cocaine ala Stephen King. And guess what both substances make you horny.

[Anonymous No.18255245]

>>18242824
If SR works why does sex give you more energy?

[Anonymous No.18255411]

>>18252088
You just have an understimulated nervous system. You need regular use of the nervous system, ie pain, in order to keep it in good health by promoting growth and repair. In ancient times everyone recieved more pain. For example, until very recently corporal punishment was used as an effective learning tool as it heavily stimulates the nervous system. In modern times we are deficient in pain thanks to modern technology and ideology that works to weaken and diminish us.This can be solved by administering "system shocks". This can be punching something hard like a tree or concrete, or hitting your head against a hard wall or door.

[Anonymous No.18255747]

>>18255411
>Literally bang your head on the table

[Anonymous No.18255781]

>>18255245
This is the real secret in plain sight...
That generative sex is better for you than any other sexual habit.

[nouvellevagiue No.18256253]

>>18242824
just count
>ib4complextensorcalcus