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Any books that denounces the renaissance for destroying culture and for being culturally soulless?

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>> No.18239317

>>18239302
Not really /lit/, but look into the Pre-Raphaelites.

>> No.18239321

I really wish all niggers like OP were time-transported to the period they adore.

>> No.18239323

>>18239302
The Crisis of the Modern World

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>>18239317
I’ve read contrasts by Pugin which denounces renaissance, but it mostly focuses on denouncing renaissance architecture.

But Pugin has some good anti-renaissance points like how it caused the French Revolution.

>> No.18239366

>>18239302
The left is soulful pre-renaissance culture. The right is soulless renaissance. The change was quick when it came to France. Kings Francis I of France succeeded King Louis XII yet king Francis feels completely different from Louis XII. Kings Louis XII is still culturally medieval.

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>>18239302
Umberto Eco, Art and Beauty in the Middle Ages

>> No.18239406

>>18239338
I can look at neo-classisism from a Spenglerian perspective: LARPing as a bygone, foreign civilization, and also misunderstanding the meaning of that civilization's form-language.

I think the Pre-Raphelites sorta got this as well.

>> No.18239430

>>18239406
I just feel like they should have forged a culture out of the medieval one instead of reviving the dead of culture of ancient times. I’m not saying classical books shouldn’t have been read or something like that. I’m saying they shouldn’t have so completely abandoned the culture of the Middle Ages which was evolving.

>> No.18239447

>>18239430
Well, there wasn't a new culture, it was the same culture evolving naturally, they just dressed it up in old clothes and made a bunch of historically incorrect architecture and statues. It wasn't an abandonment, just a bit of Greco-Roman-weaboo-ing that lingers on 'til today. Fundamentally, our civilization is still rooted in the Medieval; it's still the heart of the West's mythological imagination. (tawdry example: It's why the Disneyland entrance is a gothic castle, and not something Greek)

>> No.18239453

>>18239447
The modern world feels more classical than medieval.

>> No.18239465

>>18239453
The Medieval was just a stage of Western civilization. Classical/Apollonian/Olympic was an entire civilization. The Medieval period would be like the Homeric (not Trojan War, but the time of Homer and when Greeks began migrating throughout the Mediterranean... like 1,000-600BC) period of classical civilization.

Perhaps, and I gonna use Spenglerian analogy again, the classical period seems similar because were are living in a time markedly similar to that of the late Roman Republic.

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>> No.18240510

>>18239453
No way.

>> No.18240531

>>18239453
I feel it too. I have said before, originally semi-joking but not really, that modernity began with The Greeks.
If I were to draw a more granular comparison using the present I would say Late Antiquity fits the closest to what we have now.

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>>18239302
Not a direct attack upon the Renaissance, but Joseph de Maistre's Examen de la Philosophie de Bacon tears the Enlightenment a new asshole.

>> No.18240991

>>18239302
Diary of a Man with Down Syndrome.

>> No.18241016

>>18240531
>I have said before, originally semi-joking but not really, that modernity began with The Greeks.
In the sense that the modernists have referenced the Greeks so heavily in their own writings, or in the Enlightened obsession with making the Greeks more like us. Frankly while we imitate and aspire to the Greeks, we do attempt to reimagine them as more like "us" than they ever were. The Greeks were irrational, they believed in their gods and behaved in a way we would consider barbaric, though of course modern man is not beyond barbarism.

T9 you other chaps Medievalism is the afterlife of the Classical world, there is no clean break as you imagine. Christianity, the state and Romance all has its origins in Roman civilisation.