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>Lenin and his feminist lieutenants, particularly Alexandra Kollontai, the first female commissar in the Soviet government, considered much of what the suffragettes were fighting for, including voting rights and equal protection under the law, "bourgeois convention."
>What they had in mind was something far more radical: An all-out war on "old and outdated" institutions like marriage and family so dominance of the state could be achieved. Instead of marriage, there would be more disposable "unions of affection and comradeship."
>The first salvo in the "liberation" of the family was easy divorce, established almost immediately by the Bolsheviks. Abortion on demand — until then illegal in every country in the world — came in 1920.
>"The family is ceasing to be necessary either to its members or to the nation," Kollontai wrote that year. But capitalists, she said, "are well aware that the old type of family, where a woman is a slave and where the husband is responsible for the well-being of his wife and children, is the best weapon in the struggle to stifle the desire of the working class for freedom and to weaken the revolutionary spirit of the working man and working woman.
>The Bolsheviks also allowed women to own land and vote. But these rights were rendered moot when the one-party state took over. The right to equal wages was also instituted, but largely ignored. And as women were ghettoized into state-chosen professions, their wages went down.
>The idea behind breaking down the family was that women without husbands could be socialized more easily. In practical terms, this meant men were free to leave their wives and abandon their responsibilities, making women wards of the state.
>During the Russian civil war, 90% of the female-dominated population of Petrograd (St. Petersburg), the capital of the Russian empire, was dependent on state handouts.
What books deal with the truly evil aspects of communism? I dont really care about economics but the above type of stuff, direct attacks on human happiness like on the family and on tradition

>> No.18200672

Wait until you read about Pol Pot. Dude literally outlawed love.

(based)

>> No.18200686

>>18200670
> direct attacks on human happiness like on the family
You've misapprehended their aims entirely; they did not want to abolish the family, but to turn the entire country into one big family where every father and mother cares with equal care and attention for every son and daughter. Doesn't that sound like the happiest, most utopian concept ever?

>> No.18200711

>>18200686
That clearly wasn't their aim. Their aim was to dismantle the family and bring its power/responsibilities under the state. Shut the fuck up and read a book, retard.

>> No.18200730
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>>18200670
family is evil. Christ spurned his. so did Buddha. Plato, too, advocated communal child rearing. the Spartans practiced it for real. and don't reactionary writers like Ludovici say much the same thing? in this respect the Communists are better torchbearers of Tradition than bourgeois convention. down with suburban domesticity! turn son against father! did not Hitler do the same? make the youth loyal to themselves and to the state, not to wretched family and its ugly provinciality... the ideal of the 'loyal', cloying daughter; un-grown up, pathetic, dependent... only hylics who feel inadequate crave that. it is not your progeny who should be slaves, but your enemy... only frustrated and impotent bourgeois tyrannise their offspring... lacking any real power, they eat their young.

>> No.18200735

>>18200711
In other words, make one big family. I know.

>> No.18200817

>>18200730
Troll, tankie or jew?

>> No.18200986
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>>18200686
>Doesn't that sound like the happiest, most utopian concept ever

>> No.18201014

>>18200730
>Christ spurned his.
Completely and utterly wrong.

>> No.18201110

>>18200686
No, it doesn't and it is not something that can be achieved by force as such either.

It happens naturally when family x and y are happy in their own bubble and choose, CHOOSE, to help out the other of their own FREE WILL. Otherwise it does not exist, it is not real.

Fucking communist scum.

>> No.18201134

>>18201110
Free will doesn't really exist. If a person is not compelled by the state, he is instead compelled by his own subjective, fleeting, narrow minded sensations. That sort of relativity, inherent in the family structure, is hardly a solid foundation for coexistence and cooperation. The family unit is not complimentary, but antagonistic, to the well being of the community.

>> No.18201244

>>18200686
no it sounds pretty dystopian

>> No.18201251

>>18200986
i thought the guy on the right was billie eilish from the thumbnail

>> No.18201334

>By the early 1970s, the wired or in-line (as opposed to wireless) system, radiating from Radio Peking at the center, and penetrating deep into the interior, broadcast to (by one estimate) over one hundred and forty million loudspeakers, mounted on utility poles and street-light standards in urban streets, schools, train and bus stations, army barracks and factory floors, and even rural fields and village lanes. By the late 1960s and early 1970s, many rural homes were also wired for sound, for which no off-switch was provided [LOL]. When the People’s Daily breathlessly reported on October 25, 1966 that “the sound of the singing of quotation songs is ringing out across the nation, from the interior to the borderlands, from country to city, in factories and fields, from barracksto schools,” reality had in fact already overtaken rhetoric.

>In the context of a village in which clocks were not yet common, the loudspeaker system quickly imposed on the villagers a newly regimented sense of “industrial” time. Operated by a single sent-down youth named Ao, the system served as a “mouthpiece” for the movement, providing not only music and reports from the provincial broadcast station, but also customized political admonitions directed at local conditions and targeted toward specific villagers.

>> No.18201341

>>18201334
>customized political admonitions directed at local conditions and targeted toward specific villagers.
fucking kek

>> No.18201346

>>18200686
that's sounds like cucking with extra steps

>> No.18201404

>>18201244
>dystopian
soý buzzword

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>>18200686
>they did not want to abolish the family, but to turn the entire country into one big family where every father and mother cares with equal care and attention for every son and daughter