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400 pages of

>lmao atheists = bad ayy

Why is this book so revered?

>> No.18187251

>>18187244
This book has nothing to do with religion.

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>>18187244
...after all it is the story of Master and Margarita
really Bulgakov?

>> No.18187311

>>18187244
>Why is this book so revered?
Why is the Bible the best-seller of the Western world? The vast majority of people are dumb theists, this is nothing new.

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>>18187311

>> No.18187320

>>18187244
based

>> No.18187326

>>18187318
Nice strawman relicuck

>> No.18187333

It’s the only Russian novel I have read that I found painful to get through. I wanted to blow my brains out trying to get through the Jesus chapters

>> No.18187337

>>18187333
But lelolcat!

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>> No.18187348

>>18187251
What an epically funny post. You said the opposite of what's true. Amazing stuff

>> No.18187351

>>18187318
Is that supposed to be an insult? I unironically believe that the edgy atheist in the picture is intellectually superior to anyone who spends inordinate amounts of time masturbating to the Bible and other mythological works. Even someone who reads Richard Dawkins is much closer to the truth than the people who still hold in high esteem the superstitions of the ancient Hebrews (while at the same time belittling all other superstitions as heresy or paganism).

>> No.18187362

>>18187351
But he's unattractive, you see
These "spiritual" "enlightened" "good" people show their true selves whenever they project their insecurities onto their adversaries

>> No.18187366

>>18187351
Kek thumbs post is so nostalgic. It was a good time being so carefree and overconfident. Thanks for the trip down memory lane bro

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>>18187351
Lmao 7/10 bait desu

>> No.18187384

>>18187351
But those fedora atheists who call themselves intellectuals are not very intelligent, often having a 105-110 IQ, which is decent but nothing to brag about. They don’t know anything about Aristotle or Aquinas or have grappled with serious philosophical questions. Even atheist philosophers take Aquinas seriously and respect him. This is why Dawkins is a complete midwit in anything outside his field of biology.

>> No.18187480

The cat drink alcohol lol

>> No.18188246

>>18187480
Y tho?

>> No.18188388

New Atheism will make a comeback, just you wait.

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>>18187351
Based

>> No.18188452

test

>> No.18188534

>>18187351
based

>> No.18189202

>>18188246
Make him more confident shooting gun

>> No.18189319

>>18187244
This is just an interesting book, in some places it is very funny to read.
It was funny for me to read how Begemot and Koroviev mocked all these cultural workers like Rimsky in Moscow. It looks like Foreigners cannot appreciate it ...For me, it's just a novel about Moscow. (Which is the Third Rome and the Second Jerusalem.)
PS I'm not really a fan of M&M. A good book, but nothing more.

>> No.18189475

>>18187244
It was cringe. Dropped it halfway through. The way he writes his scenes is as if your watching an exaggerated cartoon. It’s corny and wack.

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>>18187351
>>18187311
>>18187318

>> No.18189642

>>18187244
Firstly, imagine writing something like this in 30's USSR
Secondly, normies mostly like it for the love story part
Thirdly, i forgot what else i wanted to say

>> No.18189660

>>18187244
Bulgakov wasn't that religious himself, he's talking about things like corruption and hypocrisy more than about atheism

>> No.18189891

>>18187244
>Why is this book so revered?

It's multi-layered. You see, first there's the master, right? But then, there's also Margarita.

>> No.18189924

>>18187244
One of those books, claimed to have a deep meaning and being "not for ordinary people, thus to whomst enlightened".
Read it in two languages, still find it pretty shitty, as it has no hidden sense, everything is very understandable, even if you didnt read the bible. No unpredictable plot twists, no hidden sense, no sense, boring story, boring scenery, boring language used.
2/10

>> No.18189942

>>18189924
I had to google Bald Mountain because i’d never heard that name before

>> No.18190033

>>18187244
seething atheist spotted

>> No.18190442

>>18189924
i agree with everything except language
as a native russian speaker i find the moscow chapters to be written really entertaining

>> No.18190458

>>18190033
You sound like a very big homo

>> No.18190495

>>18189924
I disagree. The book is highly open to interpretation and rereading even though it's very approachable on the surface.
>not for ordinary people, thus to whomst enlightened
Nobody ever says this. Maybe retards on /lit/ want to believe it but it's a popular novel in its own country, not some kind of secret text for the enlightened.

>> No.18190514

>>18190495
yeah this book is a big part of pop culture in russia

>> No.18190533

>>18187351
Based

>> No.18190548

>>18189924
>One of those books, claimed to have a deep meaning and being "not for ordinary people, thus to whomst enlightened".
Whoever said that must be fucking retarded.
>No unpredictable plot twists
The ending
> boring story, boring scenery, boring language used.
And you must be retarded too. What do you even mean by boring scenery? It takes place in Russia, what the fuck did you expect?

>> No.18190580

>>18187244
Filtered. All that stuff about the master and his manuscript? That sequence of the black magic demonstration in the theatre? The reflecting on Pontius Pilate? The Walpurgisnacht ball? The satire of state censorship and control of the arts? The intertextuality with Faust and Brothers Karamazov? Yeah, all of that was just about atheism somehow.

The only parts that are maybe "lmao atheism" is the opening dialogue and the sequence where Woland pontificates at the ball. Please read deeper.

>> No.18190836

>>18189319
Nice

>> No.18190945

If your main criticism of a book is reductionism, it's safe to say you're completely retarded and your opinion should be ignored.
>It's just muh whale
>It's just paddling up muh river
>It's just a dainty Italian mamma-mia-ing his way through muh hell
Literally anything ever written can be given the same treatment and sound awful.