/sffg/ - Science fiction and Fantasy general

[Anonymous No.18180454]

Cyberpunk Edition
Previous Thread:>>18171240

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>Archive
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>>>/t/1023504

>Discord
Never going to be created.

[Anonymous No.18180467]

>>18180454
Just bought a bunch of self-publish books from Amazon. Hope you guys are doing you’re part in keeping the sci-fi and fantasy community alive.

[Anonymous No.18180495]

>>18180454
>Cyberpunk
Has there been new releases of cyberpunk novels? I used to like the genre growing up, but haven’t read any since I finish highschool. Has things change or is it still derivative?

[Anonymous No.18180499]

What are some science fiction and fantasy books about characters who have to live double lives?

[Anonymous No.18180506]

>>18180454
Thread reminder. Remember to:
>Seethe
>Cope
>Rope

[Anonymous No.18180522]

>>18180506
Imagine being this shitalian

[Anonymous No.18180525]

>>18180506
Hololive isn't anime, they're prepackaged "e-celebs."

[Anonymous No.18180533]

>>18180522
The schizo's narrative grows.

[Anonymous No.18180551]

>>18180533
Phantastic spanish literature mamma mia

[Anonymous No.18180568]

>>18180551
A Magical Realism General focusing on superior Spanish Speculative Fiction? Sounds like a great excuse to post pictures of my favorite corporate Virtual Youtuber!

[Anonymous No.18180571]

>>18180551
>>18180533
>>18180525
>>18180506
pathetic
just let people talk about what they want, it keeps the threads alive

>>18180499
is hololive at least interesting or is it like bronies?

[Anonymous No.18180574]

>>18180522
>thinking there is only one person who dislikes a book thread being shit up by anime.
I'm a pasty-pale Scot lmao. Try sticking to your disabled tranny threads in /a/, maybe you can discuss your google translate tier stories there. Or just keep obstinately making the thread worse via seethe and bumping with inane questions.

[Anonymous No.18180582]

>>18180571
Well, they’re planning on launching their own brand of fantasy and science fiction series dubbed Hololive: Alternative. So we would have to wait and see.

[Anonymous No.18180595]

>>18180568
>>18180574
Back to your containment thread, free söylent and no scary gook cartoons
>>18175146

[Anonymous No.18180598]

>>18180571
If a thread doesn't naturally on the board then what's the point of keeping it alive? /sffg/ has outlived its usefulness as a place where people could discuss genre fiction without snobs derailing threads. Now it's just another shitty general ruled by insane "personalities."

[Anonymous No.18180605]

>>18180582
Well have fun discussing it on /vt/, this board is for the discussion of literature.

[Anonymous No.18180609]

>>18180571
If you enjoy watching people play games and receiving donations for flashing their virtual panties then you'll enjoy it. It's twitch tiddy streaming with an anime avatar.

[Anonymous No.18180617]

>>18180605
Jokes on you, it includes novels as well so they can be discuss on /sffg/.

[Anonymous No.18180649]

>>18180617
Fanfiction is not literature.

[Anonymous No.18180664]

>>18180649
With how you guys keep getting more and more reductive, I doubt anything will be literature in your minds.

[Anonymous No.18180678]

>>18180664
yeah hololive sounds stupid, but there was a time when victor hugo and émile zola were considered trash literature.

[Anonymous No.18180690]

>>18180678
Personally I still consider them trash, but there's a fundamental difference between trashy literature and straight up fanfiction made to sell a product. What's next for /lit/ discussing the exploits of the Hamburgler and Ronald McDonald as related by the side of a Happy Meal box?

[Anonymous No.18180695]

>>18180664
Boo hoo, now go post about all the manga you read on Goodreads.

[Anonymous No.18180720]

>>18180690
you say that like 90 % of the books we consider classics weren't made to make money/fame first and foremost.

[Anonymous No.18180726]

Fang Yuan: "The road to immortality is paved by benefits."

Read it, you won’t regret it.

[Anonymous No.18180729]

>>18180726
It's way too long.

[Anonymous No.18180755]

>>18180729
The payoff is well worth it.

[Anonymous No.18180761]

>>18180720
You say that as though Tolkien cooked up children's books for a fat paycheck, that Lovecraft didn't write his best fiction for love of the craft of suspense. Even then, do you really think that the hacks they hire to write about how cool, sexy and totally deserving of your money their streamers are will have one hundredth of the passion that REH had for Conan or Texas, stories he wrote for a paycheck? I expect as much effort as a Neil Gaiman introduction to some fantasy novel re-release.

[Anonymous No.18180794]

>>18180695
>>18180690
>>18180649
>>18180605
>>18180574
>>18180568
>>18180506

Welcome home >>18175146 western man.

[Anonymous No.18180838]

>>18180794
>Make their own containment thread
>Still decided to derail and shit up this one.
What makes people do this?

[Anonymous No.18180850]

>>18180838
I am only telling people in this thread that they have choice of having a thread where they don't have to complain about anime and anime related things.

You would force them to stay here?

[Anonymous No.18180866]

>>18180850
Oh no, I agree with you, is just that I can’t wrap my head on why they made their own thread but still come here to shit it up? Why not leave? I mean, even the first two post of this thread were on-topic before the third and fourth post derailed it.

[Anonymous No.18180873]

>>18180838
>have /trash/ for your opinions
>still posting in /lit/
What makes retards do this?

[Anonymous No.18180888]

>>18180866
I have not come to derail but to bring salvation to these people.
Does it trouble you?

[Anonymous No.18180928]

>>18180866
Those are people who seethe at others for liking things they don't like, even the most trivial of differences makes them foam at the mouth. Now that they are forced in a thread together they realize how retarded and annoying they are but they still can't help shitting up everything.

[Anonymous No.18181036]

Decided to bite the bullet and read some of those Chinese novels and litrpgs too see the why this became some sort of controversy to begin with.

Going to read Beware of Chicken and Tian from Royal Road. You guys also have some recommendations so I can expand my reading list?

[Anonymous No.18181086]

>>18180888
People just want to discuss stories they’re reading or want to read. Don’t know why that troubles you so much.

[Anonymous No.18181153]

>>18180454
Is redwall a good book for a child to read? I want to give my nephew something to read. And I’m divided between that and warrior cats.

[Anonymous No.18181190]

>>18180726
he just got to northern plains region, will it get good at some point or will it drag for 200-300 chapters until he enters some new city and interesting thing start happen again?

[Anonymous No.18181198]

>>18181153
Redwall was the shit back when I was a kid. Loved those books.

[Anonymous No.18181287]

>>18181153
Redwall is amazing, I'd definitely recommend it. Jacques' descriptions of food and everyday life in Redwall are peak comfy
>>18180454
bros why are rainy cities so peaceful? are there any books which can emulate the serene feeling of taking a walk on a rainy day?

[Anonymous No.18181291]

>>18181036
I don't really get why you're starting with these but I'll just copy my post from the previous thread.

Like the other guy said, you can go with the staples : Renegade Immortal, I shall seal the heavens, Desolate Era, Martial World...Coiling Dragon is the novel that made xianxia popular in the west some years ago if you're interested but I didn't like it that much.
They're all finished and have proved their worth overtime. They're also all what you'd expect from cultivation novels, without any big twist on the formula. Don't just pick some random shit from Webnovel.
When you feel like you want something more lighthearted I recommend A Will Eternal.

[Anonymous No.18181317]

>>18181190
It will drag until the end of book 3 at which point it'll become great, maybe a bit overwhelming even.
The problem is enslavement path is boring and for cowards.
There's no enslavement venerable because a super autist confident in himself isn't going to rely on pokemons to win a battle.

[Anonymous No.18181342]

>>18181190
>>18181317
Book 3 is probably the best part of the series, expect for the first one.

[Anonymous No.18181354]

>>18180495
Asia likes sci fi and cyberpunk.

[Anonymous No.18181364]

I feel like I, for whatever reason, come up with a lot of good ideas for fantasy but the thing is, I don’t really want to write fantasy. What should I do? Do any of you guys write fantasy even though you don’t really like it?

[Anonymous No.18181390]

>>18181364
I suppose your problem is perhaps that you're not coming at this from the right angle.

Write a book to change your life; tell a story that resonates with you. Don't write fantasy to "write fantasy".

Why do something you don't like? Some do it to make a living from fantasy. But only a handful of authors sell all the books. That's the harsh truth.

[Anonymous No.18181429]

>>18181317
imagine how autistic an enslavement venerable would be

[Anonymous No.18181905]

>>18180454
Why the flying fuck is there a western sffg in the catalog?

[Anonymous No.18181947]

>>18180649
I respectfully disagree; there are some fanfics that are just as well written as novels, for instance -- Unatoned is a fantastic AU take in Harry Potter. It has absolutely beautiful prose and a fantastic story. Even people who don't like the Harry Potterverse will probably enjoy this, provided they enjoy the noir genre.

[Anonymous No.18181950]

>>18181390
I guess I would say that is whether it’s the life changing story or the story I write just because I want to tell a story, I feel almost like I just automatically think in terms of fantasy and can flesh those ideas out in fantasy much easier than I can anything else even though I don’t really like fantasy anymore. I have nothing against fantasy. It’s just not my thing anymore and not what I want to write.

[Anonymous No.18182007]

>>18181905
there is a reason, check >>18171240

[Anonymous No.18182008]

Fuck E William Brown
Fuck Pay Pigs
Fuck Pay Walls
Fuck Bad Marketing
Fuck Lazy Authors

[Anonymous No.18182038]

>>18181905
this is now all that is not western, enjoy!

[Anonymous No.18182229]

>>18182038
So we can discuss south american, russian and asian books here? Or does EU not count as western?

[Anonymous No.18182287]

>>18182229
autism

[Anonymous No.18182302]

>>18182229
You can discuss everything here but you can only discuss western books in the the short bus thread, they are very sensitive

[Anonymous No.18182942]

>>18181905
mental illness

[Anonymous No.18183053]

>>18181905
cause some dickhead was spamming anime shit

[Anonymous No.18183110]

People were too stupid to simply ignore animeshit-poster.

[Anonγmous No.18183389]

I refuse to read Bakker.

[Anonymous No.18183437]

>>18181905
People wanted to discuss eastern scifi and fantasy novels and not to mention litrpg. Which for the purists minds, weren’t real /sffg/ material.

[Anonymous No.18183498]

>>18183389
Do you like contemporary fantasy? If so, don't bother reading Bakker. Do you dislike most if not all contemporary fantasy? If so, read Bakker.

[Anonymous No.18183946]

>>18183110
It feels like an excuse to make a new general.

[Anonymous No.18184237]

What are some scifi and fantasy works involving either the prevalent belief in, or the actual incontrovertible existence of, a monotheistic deity, that is not explicitly a contemporary real-world faith?

[Anonγmous No.18184436]

>>18183498
I'm not sure if I've read any contemporary fantasy that wasn't chinkshit

[Anonymous No.18184479]

[Anonγmous No.18184522]

>>18184479
I asked for something similar to Utena and someone rec'd me second book in this series but I wasn't confident in their taste

[Anonymous No.18184684]

>>18184479
How is her second series, court of something?

[Anonymous No.18184714]

>>18184684
Being made into a TV series

[Anonymous No.18184745]

>>18184714
Her second series got green light into being made into a show but not throne of glass? How?

[Anonymous No.18184812]

>>18184479
I might read her just because libtards tried to cancel her for not having diversity in her books

[Anonγmous No.18184920]

>>18184812
Hello? Based?

[Anonymous No.18184969]

>>18180454
Is there any decent or even genre defining sci fi being made right now?

[Anonymous No.18184972]

>>18184969
written*

[Anonymous No.18185157]

>>18184969
Not that I know of, which is a shame.

[Anonymous No.18185166]

>>18184812
Ah. Based.

>>18184969
Not to my knowledge. Someone tried to promote Court of Thorn and Roses, so someone is trying to promote that.

[Anonymous No.18185226]

>>18185166
>Someone tried to promote Court of Thorn and Roses
My cousin read that, isn’t that like hunger games? Except it’s courtly politics? With the male-non-human being some rapist.

[Anonymous No.18185425]

>>18183389
I tried but I can't into grimderp

[Anonymous No.18185448]

>>18182008
>rent free

[Anonymous No.18185610]

>big series villain is a dude who got isekai'd as a kid and decided the only way to give humanity peace is to kill every fucking god
Suicide Hunter is such a trip

[Anonymous No.18185830]

Persuade me to read The Warrior-Prophet. Not much has happened at TDTCB that would convince me to continue reading. Sure, once I got into prose, I appreciated it, but there is nothing appealing about the plot.

[Anonymous No.18185944]

>>18185830
First book sets things into motion. The second book is actually one of the best books in the series. There is so much cool shit happening there.

Also you might want to check out the /wsffg/ thread for more Bakker discussion.

[Anonymous No.18185973]

I'm only halfway through The Darkness That Comes before, but I'm wondering what sort of role Cnaiur will play later on? I lie him but a barbarian warrior doesn't seem to fit in the holy war
No Spoilers please

[Anonymous No.18186000]

>>18185973
He will be a barbarian warrior in the holy war.
How the hell do you want your answer without spoilers.

[Anonymous No.18186008]

>>18185944
What's the difference between /sffg/ and /wsffg/?

[Anonymous No.18186011]

>>18186000
Just be vague and general. He helps the heros?

[Anonymous No.18186015]

>>18186011
He does barbarian things

[Anonymous No.18186017]

>>18186008
The amount of dilation

[Anonymous No.18186082]

>>18186008
We can talk about fantasy and science fiction from around the world. They only want to discuss books written by western/Central Europe and U.S.A.

[Anonymous No.18186120]

Recommend an audible LitRPG that doesn't involve a snarky protagonist or sidekick with a sharp tongue. Humor is fine but I'm sick of authors that turn the sarcasm and wit up to 11.

[Anonymous No.18186135]

>>18184479
>sarah
Hard pass

[Anonymous No.18186199]

>>18186120
https://www.audible.com/pd/He-Who-Fights-with-Monsters-A-LitRPG-Adventure-Audiobook/1774248182

https://www.audible.com/pd/Ravenous-A-Zombie-Apocalypse-LitRPG-Audiobook/B08YKD5JQJ

[Anonymous No.18186242]

>>18183437
>purists minds
no, you mean AUTISTIC MINDS

it's a symptom, how can you not see it

doesn't help that they have a victim complex

>>18185610
>>big series villain is a dude who got isekai'd as a kid and decided the only way to give humanity peace is to kill every fucking god
sounds interesting

[Anonymous No.18186249]

>>18186008
/wsffg/ is basically just bakker memes

[Anonymous No.18186262]

>>18186249
So what's this thread has to offer now? Chinkshit?

[Anonymous No.18186279]

>>18186262
Actual discussion.

[Anonymous No.18186288]

>>18186279
Ok. Let's discuss. Do you like Bakker?

[Anonymous No.18186309]

>>18186288
No, I wouldn’t say I like him, but I don’t dislike him either.

[Anonγmous No.18186408]

>>18186288
Discuss something other than Bakker for fucks sake.
I'll start: Princess Irulan did nothing wrong and Paul pushed her to conspire against him by holding her as consort.

[Anonymous No.18186423]

>>18186408
>Princess Irulan did nothing wrong and Paul pushed her to conspire against him by holding her as consort.
I agree.
Which Bakker's book is the best?

[Anonymous No.18186427]

>>18186423
Discuss something other than Bakker for fucks sake.

[Anonymous No.18186491]

>>18180454
Sorry for being political, but do you guys think modern day fantasy and science fiction novels will be purged of their political and social bias? I just want to read fun and light hearted stories and escape from modern life.

[Anonymous No.18186496]

>>18186491
Just don't read american books, easy.

[Anonymous No.18186543]

>>18186423
The Warrior Prophet /thread

[Anonymous No.18186622]

So, I don’t know if this is the right thread, but I was thinking of reading some books from central and South America. Wanted to know if magic realism is good and all that jazz. You guys have any suggestions and what authors I should look out for?

[Anonymous No.18186703]

>>18185166
>Someone tried to promote Court of Thorn and Roses, so someone is trying to promote that.
How is that science fiction? I thought it was fantasy?

[Anonymous No.18186897]

>>18186622
Just read some more of the obscure novels from Europe and America, especially when it comes from cosmic horror. They’re hidden gems that can be found.

[Anonymous No.18186907]

>>18186008
In wsffg chinkshit is outlawed on pain of death

[Anonymous No.18186922]

>>18186907
Ok, you convinced me. Fuck this thread.

[Anonymous No.18187188]

Im addicted to shitty royal road litrpgs and trashy xianxias that i drop after a hundred chapters
can i get some REAL fantasy to cleanse me from this curse?

[Anonymous No.18187228]

>>18187188
What's real fantasy?

[Anonγmous No.18187581]

>>18187228
Sandersama

[Anonymous No.18187597]

>>18183389
Then don’t read him.

[Anonymous No.18187757]

>>18180454
Is Romantic fantasy the worse subgenre of fantasy? I find myself questioned the worldbuilding more often than not.

[Anonymous No.18188095]

Where to start with Egan if you're a brainlet concerning all things mathematical?

[Anonymous No.18188181]

>>18188095
>Where to start with Egan
Closer and if you like it, then I would recommend moving on to either Quarantine or Permutation City. These two deal with many of the same questions and concepts, although they do so in different ways.

[Anonymous No.18188206]

Have you worshiped your lord and savior Fang Yuan today?

[Anonγmous No.18188224]

>>18188206
Qrd?

[Anonymous No.18188243]

>>18188181
Thank you

[Anonymous No.18188260]

>>18188206
Holy Based Chad Venerable?

[Anonγmous No.18188707]

What if Paul Atreides was a cute girl haha

[Anonymous No.18188726]

>>18188707
You already have his cute sister.

[Anonymous No.18188845]

is there a jap sci-fi/fantasy chart?

[Anonγmous No.18188855]

>>18188726
I am not a pedophile.

[Anonymous No.18189041]

>>18184479
Where does Magna Cum Loudly come from again?

[Anonymous No.18189050]

Finished Children of Hurin how do I fill the hole in my chest?

[Anonymous No.18189211]

>>18189050
The Children of Hurin is a part of the Silmarillion. Read the silmarillion next.

[Anonymous No.18189269]

>>18189211
Yeah you're right I guess it must've been weird to read the stand alone or something. I'm almost nervous diving in but I guess I have to.

[Anonymous No.18189422]

>>18189211
>>18189269
Silmarillion is downright boring.

[Anonymous No.18189469]

>>18189422
Plebbit is here: https://reddit.com

[Anonymous No.18189477]

>>18189041
hahahahahahha

[Anonymous No.18189994]

>>18188845
No, but I was thinking one should be made.

[Anonymous No.18190181]

any books that give pic related feel?
Enchanted mushroom forest, halflings wizards etc

[Anonymous No.18190193]

>>18190181
Depends, what's your view on epic fantasy?

[Anonymous No.18190262]

>>18189422
How is it boring? I’m kept entertained by it.

[Anonymous No.18190445]

>>18190181
Enchanted Forest Chronicles Series

[Anonymous No.18190690]

Why is there an attempted thread split?

I only come in here like four times a month when I've actually read something/am looking for something to read.

[Anonymous No.18190701]

>>18190690
Newfaggotry, as usual.

[Anonymous No.18190727]

>>18187757
Do you mean stuff that's explicitly chivalric romance or just any fantasy with a romance at the heart of it?

Because the latter has produced some of my favourite fantasy ever (Chalion, Swordspoint) and some of my fav books of recent years.
As for the former (which is the definition wiki gives) I can barely think of anything that fits into it.

[Anonymous No.18190755]

>>18190690
>Why is there an attempted thread split?
faggots are screaming and crying about the anime posters so they made their own general

I give it another day or two before they get bored and give up

[Anonymous No.18190780]

It's surprisingly hard to find single pov fantasy where the protagonist just goes around learning how to fight and having adventures.
Not wanting to read assassins, five POVs or magical schools really cuts down your options.

[Anonymous No.18190796]

>>18190780
Lois McMaster Bujold's Curse of Chalion and the sequel Paladin of Souls

[Anonymous No.18190805]

>>18190796
>fighting
>chalion
>fighting
>especially paladin
what are you smoking anon

[Anonymous No.18190871]

>>18190780
Not that hard if you read xianxia
It's basically just that.

[Anonymous No.18190875]

>>18190780
read dragonlance and forgetten realms etc

[Anonymous No.18190876]

>>18190871
yeah but it's rarely physical
record of a mortal's journey is the only one I've ever liked where it's all magic and flying swords

[Anonymous No.18190899]

Any books with good hand to hand combat? It doesn't have to be fantasy or sci-fi. Pic related is something people keep recommending.

[Anonymous No.18190931]

>2021
>I am forgotten...

[Anonymous No.18190933]

>>18190899
Nigger it's a book, use your imagination

[Anonymous No.18191115]

>>18190931
God, he's such a fucking hack.

[Anonymous No.18191162]

>>18191115
>Hack
Do you even know what this means or do you mindlessly echo it?

[Anonymous No.18191238]

>>18189469
Silmarillion is loved by the reddit crew.

[Anonymous No.18191249]

>>18190931
> Erdogan regime
> violence against women

[Anonymous No.18191257]

>>18191162
Even back then he looked greasy

[Anonymous No.18191261]

Any good fantasy or science fiction books from France, Spain, Germany, or even somewhere like the Balkans or Central Europe? Most of the top authors just seem to come from America, UK, or Russia. I'm aware of stuff like The Witcher but it seems pretty bland honestly.

[Anonymous No.18191270]

>>18191261
The Thief Lord

[Anonymous No.18191286]

>>18191270

Will look into it also aware of Karel Capek and Lem. That's what I'm more after.

[Anonymous No.18191651]

>>18190690
Some anon remain adamant that Xianxia and litrpgs weren't Science fiction or Fantasy

[Anonymous No.18191720]

>>18190690
see >>18191476

[Anonymous No.18191761]

>>18191651
Honestly they have nothing to do /lit/. They're so bad I consider them their own class of literature, similar to how comics aren't considered novels.

[Anonymous No.18191762]

>>18191720
This post is proof that your retardation needs containment, there's no posters from the original thread making up greentext nonsense and linking it up everywhere and quoting themselves into oblivion. Funny how nobody is spamming Marvel shit and false flagging as a weeb since then either.

[Anonymous No.18191768]

>>18191762
meds

[Anonymous No.18191774]

>>18191761
And again with being reductive. They're science fiction and fantasy, stop being so arbitrary already.

[Anonymous No.18191788]

>>18191774
>AI generated texts are /lit/ related
Fuck off, nobody with more than two braincells wants to read that trash

[Anonymous No.18191852]

>>18191788
Why are you so hellbent in limiting discussion on /sffg/?

[Anonymous No.18191927]

>>18191261
Gagner la guerre is great but idk if it'll ever get translated
It's been "in preparation" for a translation for like 2 years now

[Anonymous No.18191937]

>>18191261
>>18191927
Oh and it's hist fic but read Accursed Kings, very obvious where ASOIAF got its inspiration from

[Anonymous No.18192013]

>>18191788
So ignore it. That's what I do whenever memetards start going off about bakker's garbage again

[Anonymous No.18192049]

>>18192013
>They were creatures of darkness, the Brethren realized. Utter darkness. Not one sky dwelt within their skulls. Not one thought.

>As much as they resembled the Bakkerfags, the Weebs were actually their antithesis, a race honed to give perfect expression to the darkness that comes before. Where the Bakkerfags reached for infinity, the Weebs embodied zero.

[Anonymous No.18192229]

>>18192013
Anon, they have a huge victim complex. Nothing will dissuade them from their narrative they have crafted.

[Anonymous No.18192524]

>decide to give this a shot since it's free with my audible account
>first story is about some dumb bitch who's in mourning for her fucking dog and goes on dates with hot older men
Pass.

[Anonymous No.18192562]

>>18192524
can we move the sexism to /wsffg/ as well?

[Anonymous No.18192574]

>>18187188
Lord of The Mysteries.
I dropped most chinkshit halfway through, but this one managed to kept me interested through thousand chapters. It's honestly quite good.

[Anonymous No.18192658]

>>18192524
What fairytale was it retelling?

[Anonymous No.18192661]

>>18192562
Not sure how you're going to square that all the ryona in gook web novels

[Anonymous No.18192667]

>>18192658
It's not retelling them, it's supposed to be making up new ones for the modern age. Mostly it seemed to be about someone getting very emotional about a mildly sad event.

[Anonymous No.18192681]

>>18192667
>Mostly it seemed to be about someone getting very emotional about a mildly sad event.
Jesus, I can't help but quietly despair how far fantasy has fallen in the west.

[Anonymous No.18192695]

>>18190755
kys anime faggot

[Anonymous No.18192727]

>>18192681
It is a sad state of affairs.

[Anonymous No.18192845]

>>18191852
Real talk: Should I just read the novels or watch the OVA?

[Anonymous No.18193217]

>>18192845
OVA, the novels are pretty meh due to the translator.

[Anonymous No.18193275]

>>18193217
Wait, you can't read Japanese?

[Anonymous No.18193329]

>>18193275
No, why would I?

[Anonymous No.18193333]

>>18192845
Novels are a very dull reading experience

[Anonymous No.18193359]

>>18192845
>>18193217
>>18193275
>>18193329
>>18193333

The absolute state of /sffg/ in /lit/
>japanese childrens picture books
>lmao hololive = literature
>Should I read this or use some other media
>lmao why read when you can avoid it
>having to use machine translations
>hating reading

I finally see why they made /wsffg/

[Anonymous No.18193361]

>>18193359
I meant those novels in particular. The translation is poor so the characters and the plot become boring too, this is not such an issue with a visual medium

[Anonymous No.18193374]

>>18193361
>>>/vt/

[Anonymous No.18193407]

>>18193359
You should go to sleep sometimes, you're going to get an aneurysm if you keep seething 24/7

[Anonymous No.18193583]

>>18192574
i already know LoM

[Anonymous No.18193621]

didn't pay attention to the autism lately. what is this thread for now, vtubers and chink fic?

[Anonymous No.18193743]

>>18193621
It's for everything as usual. The other thread is only for westerns novels but it's mostly Bakker.

[Anonymous No.18193807]

>>18188206
Why is he portrayed with a sword when he actually does not use a sword?

[Anonymous No.18193862]

>>18193807
He does use Sword path Gu. His Sword Dragon Transformation was a great dramatic moment.

[Anonymous No.18194064]

>>18193621
You are correct in your assumption, do not trust the first reply. He is the chinkshit vtuber spammer.

[Anonγmous No.18194343]

>>18194064
You are literally delusional.
I bet you don't even read.

[Anonymous No.18194726]

>>18193862
Nice.

[Anonymous No.18194800]

>>18188206
Have you hooked your phonics today ESL? Or is your attention span too short for flashcards because they don't come with archetypes like tsundere or loli?

[nobully No.18194815]

I tried reading ready player one but some of the words are a bit too big for me and the pacing was so slow I got bored but I did like the fact that it had anime-like qualities.

Does anyone have anything similar but the MC has cheat powers?

[Anonymous No.18194836]

>>18194815
Deepens on how you view litrpgs, but I have a few.

[nobully No.18194859]

>>18194836
I don't know what those are, but yes please uwu

big boy scifi/fantasy scare me

[Anonymous No.18194976]

>>18194859
LitRPG, short for Literary Role Playing Game, is a literary genre combining the conventions of computer RPGs with science-fiction and fantasy novels.

[Anonymous No.18195044]

>>18194976
>no pictures

Ugh, no thanks. I'll stick to Genshin Impact

[Anonymous No.18195201]

>>18195044
>Genshin Impact
That’s not a book nor a manga but a Gacha game. If you’re going to shut post at least do it correctly, you idiot.

[Anonymous No.18195227]

>>18194815
Check out The Legendary Mechanic. MC is an NPC with "cheat system" that allows him to connect with the players.

[Anonymous No.18195330]

>>18188206
>not worshipping Primordial Origin Venerable

[Anonymous No.18195402]

>>18195227
Any other? I thought cheat abilities were common.

[Anonymous No.18195490]

I’m thinking of reading the pokemon fanfic but I get so tired reading books. Should I just keep on watching the series? I wish I understood Japanese.

[Anonymous No.18195521]

Thinking back about the Three Body Problem series.
I'm more and more pissed about how the third book decided to fuck over most of the interesting themes introduced in the second, like the new humanity created by the battle of darkness.

[Anonymous No.18195572]

>>18191261
I don't think it has an english translation, and it's a damn shame.

[Anonymous No.18195645]

>>18191261
In France there's also Jean-Philippe Jaworski

[Anonymous No.18195811]

>>18191261
Spanish sci-fi and fantasy writers get no love whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.18196073]

>>18190931
His fault for not fucking releasing his novels earlier.

[Anonymous No.18196075]

>>18195402
Chinese have novels ranked by systems. Find any page with Chinese novels and search for 'system' and so many different novels show up that you'll struggle not to drown.

I don't get it, but somehow the Chinese are hooked on their protagonists having some kind of strange system that either makes them overpowered, drastically changes their life for better or worse, or is just there for comedic effect.

[Anonymous No.18196102]

>>18196075
Power fantasies sells, anon. Even in the west. Can’t blame Chinese authors giving readers what they want.

[Anonymous No.18196120]

>>18196102
True, but the Chinese obsession with Systems might mirror the Japanese obsession with Isekai.

[Anonymous No.18196152]

https://youtu.be/Y2dY10NEZ5U
This kid is better read and more well spoken than half of you.

[Anonymous No.18196155]

>>18196120
In my most personal opinion, I think Chinese’s obsession with system will die out soon. Japanese’s Isekai is already dying out with how repetitive it is. Just give it some time.

[Anonymous No.18196217]

>>18191261
>On a dying Earth, the last humans are massively euthanizing themselves while new and barely comprehensible silicon-based beings are slowing evolving to become the next dominant lifeforms
It's absolutely kino

[Anonymous No.18196241]

>>18196217
Is it in English? Sounds cool

[Anonymous No.18196272]

>>18196217
>people of the future commit mass euthanizing
Is this the future for a society that believes in science? I mean, in the view of scientific thought, we are just another organism. We slaughter countless organisms daily just to feed ourselves. Organisms killing another organisms in an eternal cycle just to live, what, 80 years? What is the point of it all? Just to continue evolution and breeding? Easy to see how one might lose hope and meaning in one's individual life when one believes the individual, or even humanity itself, is without any inherent value, expect for being a self-propagating organism.

But I would like to know more about this silicon-based beings.

[Anonymous No.18196275]

>>18196241
I think not, and that's a fucking shame since it's more than a century old, barely 100 pages long and pretty close to a masterpiece of pessimistic sci fi.

[Anonymous No.18196322]

Read Sarah J Maas you plebs

[Anonymous No.18196325]

>>18196275
Serge Brussolo also has a lot of work not translated into English, which is a shame because I wanted to read him.

[Anonymous No.18196356]

>book depository doesn’t stock much Karl Edward Wagner

[Anonymous No.18196370]

Kane chad, I kneel...

[Anonymous No.18196396]

>>18196356
>Not owning a copy.
Totally deserve it.

[Anonymous No.18196403]

>>18196322
She's cute, but her books are bad

[Anonymous No.18196441]

>>18196396
I’m reading an epub of the first Kane novel but I wish I owned these

[Anonymous No.18196453]

>>18196272
>But I would like to know more about this silicon-based beings.
They're actually iron-based lifeforms

>called ferromagnetals
>Can barely move 10 meters per hour
>Born from industrial iron as weird purple stains, rendering the iron useless for humans
>Still barely conscious after 100 000 years of evolution, probably million of years away from forming an actual civilization
>Their magnetism caused birds to die out and can lead to anemia if you stand close to them
>Can pull iron from the earth to feed
I don't think they're ever described, but i like to think they're literally edgy rocks like on the cover of >>18196217
The last human just lies down next to them to die after his family's death
It was a great, depressing read for 10 year old me

[Anonymous No.18196743]

>>18196275
God, that’s just awful.

[Anonymous No.18196821]

>>18196441
Damn, that price is robbery.

[Anonymous No.18197034]

>Aunt goes to used bookstore and buys a couple of books to make paper angels
>One book she bought was a sci-fi book with 50 authors stories being translated
>it was in good condition
I feel nothing.

[Anonymous No.18197215]

>>18196322
I'll read one of her books for every time she lets me eat her ass

[Anonymous No.18197343]

>>18196322
Wasn’t she some web serial author before getting published?

[Anonymous No.18197603]

>>18197343
Yes, she’s one of the few who made it in the industry.

[Anonymous No.18197743]

>>18195572
>we will never have translations of other great works.

[Anonymous No.18197780]

>>18180506
>He says while seething

[Anonymous No.18198108]

>>18197780
Just ignore him.

[Anonymous No.18198167]

Anything decent where the protagonist is a court jester?

[Anonymous No.18198535]

>>18198167
fool by christopher moore supposedly
maybe lord valentines castle

[Anonymous No.18198679]

>>18198535
I’ll check them.

[Anonymous No.18198771]

>>18196322
> Reading books by a woman.

[Anonymous No.18198842]

I liked the crippled god, not nearly as bad as the reviews made it out to be. or maybe i just enjoyed the journey so much I don't mind the ending. That said,
why'd they have to kill the crippled god wtf? and what happened to Karsa Orlong, his fight in Darujistan was his final hurrah and the shit at the Fener temple?

[Anonγmous No.18198844]

>>18198771
A Wizard of Earthsea was gud

[Anonymous No.18198865]

>>18198842
They had to kill the little piece of him to go back to our world, reconnect with the greater whole and become Steve Erickson. Karsa is getting his own series at some point maybe

[Anonymous No.18198927]

>>18198771
Some of them, not all of them, have good stories.

[Anonymous No.18198950]

>>18191249
Cursed image.

[Anonymous No.18199050]

>>18189050
Beren and Luthien. Make the hole bigger.

[Anonymous No.18199053]

>>18193217
>>18193275
They are still dull in Japanese, particularly the battle descriptions go on for far too long on pointless details

[Anonymous No.18199072]

>>18198771
cum again?

[Anonymous No.18199073]

Books with this aesthetic?

[Anonymous No.18199077]

is bakker a meme? the darkness that comes before or w/e is good so far.

[Anonymous No.18199081]

>>18196370
That cover looks like a Molly Hatchet album cover

[Anonγmous No.18199087]

>>18199073
Based book cover, here's another

[Anonymous No.18199118]

>>18199081
Same artist as did Conan covers.

[Anonymous No.18199141]

>>18199077
It's gayshit.

[Anonymous No.18199189]

>>18180454
How is the Foundation book by Asimov? Considering picking it up.

[Anonymous No.18199193]

>>18199141
well god damn it

[Anonymous No.18199197]

>>18199189
I liked all 3 but it shows it's age and there's rarely a book I don't like.

[Anonymous No.18199226]

>>18198771
Way better than reading Chink books

[Anonγmous No.18199256]

>>18199226
Go cry about your corpse of general, tranny

[Anonymous No.18199257]

>>18199226
chinks are invading novels now and not just their shitty attempts at manga? christ

[Anonymous No.18199297]

>>18199073
Dune

[Anonymous No.18199323]

did that meme western sffg general get deleted or die naturally

[Anonγmous No.18199330]

>>18199257
>>18199226
Holy samefag, seek help before you chop your cock off and kill yourself

[Anonymous No.18199333]

>>18199197
In what way does it show its age, if you could elaborate.

[Anonymous No.18199374]

>>18199333
it feels like the way the endings are wrapped up is similar to...i don't know a deus ex machina? some older scifi is bad about just wrapping things up like that and handwaving things away and ending everything in 5 or 10 pages. Definitely still worth reading and it's possible I'm just a retard.

[Anonymous No.18199455]

>>18199141
>Yes.

[Anonymous No.18199617]

>>18199323
If it were deleted it wouldn't be in the on-site archive. It is, so it wasn't.

[Anonymous No.18199688]

What makes the GWcuck consoomer seethe in sci fi? Actually interesting science fiction with a greater-than-two-dimensional moral cosmology?

[Anonymous No.18199715]

>>18199053
So watch the OVA.

[Anonymous No.18199817]

>>18199688
It challenges their world view.

[Anonymous No.18199890]

>>18196322
I was considering reading Court of Thorns and Roses, but decided against it.

[Anonymous No.18199899]

>>18199890
How is Throne of Glass?

[Anonymous No.18199910]

>>18199899
Wouldn't know, haven't read any of her stuff.

[Anonymous No.18200010]

>>18199323
die naturally

[Anonymous No.18200058]

Sarah J. Fatass

[Anonymous No.18200066]

>>18199226
Books written and praised by western establishment today are merely those that parrot the politicians talking points. They are soulless.

[Anonymous No.18200088]

>>18200058
I think when they're cute it's "plumpass" or "thiccass" though that photo isn't very flattering.

[Anonymous No.18200129]

>>18199910
I'm not that Anon but I listened to the unabridged audiobook. It's part of the Romance invasion into SFF. Contrary to a previous post, the intended audience isn't teen girls, it's all female SFF readers. There's a bit of love triangle, a bit of Hunger Games, a bit of murder mystery, and slightly based on the Cinderella story. Essentially it's a women's power fantasy where she's a chosen one, she's beautiful, two guys like her (most guys like her?), she's capable of killing anyone who annoys her (but she can't for reasons), she gets to read lots of books and eat candy, she gets to dress up in a beautiful gown and wow everyone at the ball, etc.
I've heard it's her debut effort and the second book fixes some of the first's issues so I might try listening to that sometime.

[Anonymous No.18200143]

>>18200129
>I've heard it's her debut effort and the second book fixes some of the first's issues so I might try listening to that sometime.
Nah, its not her debut, but rather her web serial being published by an actual publisher and not fictionpress.

[Anonymous No.18200177]

>>18200066
You can find more soulless stuff here
>>18200057

[Anonymous No.18200190]

>>18200066
It’s genuinely depressing to see it fall so hard today. I wonder if it will ever go back.

[Anonymous No.18200200]

>>18200177
>Still lurking here despise fucking off.

[Anonymous No.18200211]

>>18200129
>Romance invasion into SFF
Are those type of stories even good or at the very least passable? I got a niece and wanted to know if they’re good so that she can start reading.

[Anonymous No.18200230]

>>18200211
I think they're okay in letting girls have interest in reading, but only when they're young or in their early teens.

[Anonymous No.18200247]

/sffg/, I fucked up

[Anonymous No.18200253]

>>18200247
What did you do?

[Anonymous No.18200277]

>>18200253
I created a writing group with some friends to help pressure me into writing. It worked, but it ended up contributing to my burnout, and is now preventing me from taking a break to recover

[Anonymous No.18200279]

Any space horror? I think it’s a cool genre/theme

[Anonymous No.18200289]

>>18200279
Hyperion, The expanse, Space Eldritch books that are horror/sci-fi anthologies, Ship of Fools by Richard Paul Russo, The Burning Dark by Adam Christopher, Hull Zero Three by Gregg Bear and Blindsight by Petter Watts

[Anonymous No.18200296]

>>18200277
Why did you do that and not just write at your own pace?

[Anonymous No.18200305]

>>18200289
>Blindsight
Been meaning to read that
>Hyperion
That too
Thanks for the rest, amazing list anon

[Anonymous No.18200324]

>>18200277
Talk to them? Why are you making it more harder on yourself?

[Anonymous No.18200329]

>>18200296
I was unhappy with how flighty and inconsistent I was, and everyone was telling me that hard work, not passion should drive writing, so I tried to arrange my life to put pressure in the right places

now it's just this omnipresent weight on my psyche. I don't think it should be a surprise that I'm getting more headaches than I used to

[Anonymous No.18200347]

>>18200088
She looks pretty great to me there, but I am specifically broken to lust for fatties

[Anonymous No.18200350]

>>18200329
Is it that hard to talk to them? I just think you’re making it harder for yourself for no reason.

[Anonymous No.18200377]

>>18200177
I will never understand why people wanted to divide /sffg/.

[Anonymous No.18200397]

>>18200305
No problem, just happy to help.

[Anonymous No.18200402]

>>18199330
It’s really sad on how mentally ill they are.

[Anonymous No.18200415]

>>18200377
brainlets are driven by the pursuit of novel forms of exclusivity that they themselves are a part of. Hence why if you put a /pol/tard in a group with only straight white dudes, they're going to start narrowing down the definition of straight, white and male in a way that makes them feel superior

[Anonymous No.18200421]

>>18200415
Wouldn't have a problem with it if they just fucked off, but no, they still have the need to lurk here.

[Anonymous No.18200428]

>>18200415
So is this going to be a thing now or until they get tired and realize their threads are going to die prematurely? Like the last one?

[Anonymous No.18200435]

>>18200428
we've tried previous alternate versions of sffg, they've never panned out

[Anonymous No.18200444]

>>18200435
/wsffg/ might survive, only because people are keen on bumping it when it’s about to die. Though that might show that it’s dead more than anything.

[Anonymous No.18200467]

>>18200435
>previous alternate versions of sffg
got a link to them, I haven't seen them.

[Anonymous No.18200485]

>>18200279
the Revelation Space series by Alastair Reynolds, while not horror, definitely has parts that evoke a horror atmosphere.

Also check out, Nightflyers by George R.R. Martin

[Anonymous No.18200505]

>>18200485
>Nightflyers by George R.R. Martin
I bought this thinking "Nightfliers" was the whole book. I was wrong; it was a collection of stories, and ironically, Nightfliers was one of the weaker tales.

This book has a few gems: "Override" and "Weekend in a War Zone" were fantastic!

I was introduced to Martin's style through the short story "Sandkings" (not in this book), and this book had plenty more of his hard SF/horror style and Hitchcockian twists.

I recommend this book to get an enjoyable sampling of this writing master's style.

[Anonymous No.18200506]

>>18200485
>checking out anything by Hack "my magnum opus will never be as good as Tolkien" Martin

[Anonymous No.18200514]

>>18200506
The book has a few hidden gems worth checking out. So it’s not a total loss.

[Anonymous No.18200519]

New thread
>>18200518

[Anonymous No.18201108]

>>18188206
Why did Duke Long, a notable member of heavenly court, start creating dragonmen to begin with? He knew what the program was about.