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Okay /lit/ be honest. There's not a single prof or lecturer or any kind of person with a degree who would be seen talking about him in the least positively, yet he captures our time so well. Why does the establishment hate him (and post structuralists in general) so much; why are they even called as such, they're post structuralists as in the school of philosophy of the same name but so much more.
I've only ever found the works I read of him (Nomadology, Difference and Repetition, Thousand Plateaus) to be extremely interesting, very accurate and inspiring and both deep as well as easily digestible. The method offered has applicable potential to the real world, and our world current specifically, like no other, and the methods' tools leave much room to be expanded upon in transformation for other environment and situations, though they are already sufficient for what they were created.

There is no reason to decry Deleuze if you've actually read him. Why do they cope so much?!

>> No.18169443

>>18169430
there are no professors or lecturers who would talk about him because the students they'd be teaching would be dumb as fuck and incapable of putting in the effort to understand him. state school, my friend: cough up that money

>> No.18169475

No one cares about 20th century sophist #4780427 and the manufactured controversy around them

>> No.18169511

>>18169443
I see that. I go to a good school but we still have no courses on anything that is no Aristotle, Plato, Augstin, Kant or Hegel + or - some odd lecture by a prof talking about his or her newest book. I guess you could teach the students, they're sharp enough I reckon, but they're very limited in their scope. They have their one area of study and that's it. They're not interested in the implications of philosophy or what else philosophy might have to offer besides for Kant and XY Neo Kantian talking about theology but also ethics.

If corona wasn't around I'd just hold a seminar myself but alas .. not to be.

>> No.18169624

>>18169475
i care, theory disproved. moron

>> No.18169659

I don't know what you're talking about. Deleuze has been vogue in literature and film departments for about 30 years

Of course he won't be covered in analytical philosophy classes

>>18169511
I reckon it is because he's not enough of a systematical thinker

At most you would study Heidegger when it comes to "contemporary" philosophy

>> No.18169697

>>18169430
Wtf are you talking about? Deleuze has been the flavor of the month for several decades now—thousands of useless papers written, thousands of new trannies minted—, he's one of the most cited thinkers in human history and his fellow post-structuralists have always been in complete accord with him (see Derrida's quote here). You sound like an Anglo university undergraduate who thinks he's stumbled across revolutionary esoteric knowledge, where in reality you've simply discovered the source of the status quo.

>> No.18169754

>>18169659
>>18169697
Nah, I'm pretty sure there's a conspiracy among academics to avoid him. I'd bring evidence but you don't seem worth the effort.

>> No.18169782

>>18169754
He's even more cited than Derrida https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=nfO_LEoAAAAJ&hl=en
There's no conspiracy.

>> No.18169907

>>18169430
You serious? You can’t avoid this guy in upper level humanities classes. Pseuds love him and all the other French theorists, it’s all those hipsters read.

>> No.18169923

>>18169430
Nomadology is Plateau 12 isn't it?

Also,

>him

>> No.18170814

>>18169430
man i'm a thirdworldfag and even here you can't avoid deleuze. i don't know what you're on about.

>> No.18170993

>>18169624
Not him. When one writes "no one cares", it's commonly understood, strictly, as "no one who matters cares", which certainly entails you. Everyone including small children are aware that there's always one or two weirdos who care about an obscure topic, and that they're merely exceptions which prove the rule. Your observation is bereft of value.

>> No.18171464

>>18170993
He is taught at universities and Agamben, Land and Sloterdijk cite him among others so you are clearly wrong.

>> No.18171495

>>18171464

Thank you for underlining my point in spite of yourself.

>> No.18171514

>>18171495
>no one who matters cares
>taught at universities and cited by individuals talked about across the internet
At this rate you might as well say no one cares about any philosophy at all.

>> No.18171529

>>18171514

The tastes of the minute segment of society that you've just cited are as unimportant to that society as they are inconsequential. You knew what I meant.

>> No.18171648

>>18171514
>one cares about any philosophy at all
This is true though

>> No.18171704

>>18170993
no one cares about your theory, what now?

>> No.18171714

>>18171464
This is not the 18th century when people cared about philosophers. Explain how these people impact society or have any influence at all.

>> No.18171732

>>18171704

Cute, but you haven't thought it through because rhetorical internet argument. Firstly, the thing I wrote in that post isn't a "theory", it's a parsing of common knowledge in the use of the English language. Second, I was replying to the above dope >>18169624 who acted as if he had made a useful statement. Third, you are vaguely trying to get outside the argument by confusing its content with your current tack, which doesn't work. It's true that this is an internet retard fight, but my post's truth-content by itself isn't undermined by the simple fact that I'm some anonymous meaningless faggot (true), which is what you're falsely suggesting. Rather, that only applies to the thingy I did above. Why are the circumstances different between my original criticism and the criticism of my criticism? Why am I immune, in this case? BECAUSE I MADE NO LARGER PRETENSE TO THE IMPORTANCE OF MY VIEWS APART FROM THIS RETARD-POST, WHEREAS THE OTHER ANON APPEALED TO "UNIVERSITY/CULTURE" AUTHORITY.

Feel free to whine about all the effort taken just now.

>> No.18171743

>>18171732
take your meds

>> No.18171800

>>18171743

This post has been an abdication of argument by way of snide comment. I presented an intelligible argument that you haven't cared to engage with.

>> No.18171952

>>18169430
Well, there are at least over 100 books about him written by academics in English alone, so how about not lying.

>> No.18172004

>>18169430
Where can I understand what the fuck Deleuze is even talking about? His work is so heavy on terminology without any explanations that its hard to understand what the fuck he is blabbing about

>> No.18172354

>>18172004
you have to read entire western canon before start with deleuze i think

>> No.18172977

>>18171714
Land is read by tech enthusiasts

>> No.18172989

By being a neet i've now gotten book recs by my professors that mention him

>> No.18173082

>>18169430
>There's not a single prof or lecturer or any kind of person with a degree who would be seen talking about him in the least positively, yet he captures our time so well
This is my experience as well.
You will not find a single professor who will discuss him. At best you get a bunch of lower lecturers teaching him and students who like to discuss him.
I know Germany likes to avoid a lot of foreign philosophy that is not ancient, but the absolute ignorance of Deleuze in comparisson to the prevalence of Foucault, Sartre is baffling.

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18173389

>>18172004

>> No.18173463

>>18171732
I'm not cute, theory disproved. moron

>> No.18173470

don't care about the guy's work but got a laugh out of an anecdote I read recently about him often hanging out with Jean-Luc Godard and Anne Wiazemsky, and Godard always being pissed off that he never cut his fingernails.

>> No.18173735

>>18173082
>student asks the Professor what the fucking BwO is, don't dumb it down faggot
>the silence is deafening because he can't possibly answer
>gunshots echo through the halls
I can see why allowing Dolce&Gabbana would be dangerous for the universities.

>> No.18174424

>>18173389
Good post.