Colombia

[Anonymous No.18159782]

Colombiaboo here, I'd like to know more about it or read something set there.
I speak spanish so language is not a problem.
also no narcos shit.

[Anonymous No.18159800]

>>18159782
You need to learn mexican first tho

[Anonymous No.18159809]

>>18159782
Gabriel García Márquez obviously. His entire fiction.

[Anonymous No.18159813]

>>18159782
hola
colombian women have nice TETAS and also they are all PUTA

[Anonymous No.18160179]

>>18159782
VIVA COLOMBIA!
Glad to know there are other anons with frosted noses on here. Also, definitely read One Hundred Years Of Solitude

[Anonymous No.18160750]

>>18159782
josé asunción silva, león de greiff, josé eustasio rivera, mutis, nicolás gómez dávila

[Anonymous No.18160860]

>>18160179
I finished it today and made a thread about it
>>18160750
book titles please

[Anonymous No.18160973]

>>18159782
>Colombia
Nothing interesting yet.
Most of them are dumb monkeys.
Very few figures to pay attention to.
Don't waste your time.

[Anonymous No.18161006]

>>18159782
My post got deleted, faggots.
So, again, don't waste your time with Colombia, it's shit.
This comes form a colmbian. Most people in this shithole country are monkeys, no new literature that's worth a minute is being made.

[Anonymous No.18161062]

>>18160860
first two are poets, third la voragine, fourth maqroll, fifth escolios

[Anonymous No.18162033]

>>18159782
sup you meme loving fuck, I'll get your ass started:
García Márquez is a must: read his complete short stories and 100 years of solitude
Nicolás Gómez Dávila: the most BASED philosopher ever. Read his Escolios a un texto implícito. Atalanta just reprinted it. There's an english PDF selection floating around also.
José Asunción Silva is our poète maudit. (He has a life very similar to Poe) Read his complete poems and his novel De sobremesa.
Our contemporary poète maudit is Raúl Gómez Jattin. Read whichever poem book you can find.
Our maudit novelist is Andrés Caicedo. Read his short stories or his novels Angelitos empantanados or Que viva la música (he killed himself at 27, as soon as the first printing of this novel was out).
If you want historical fiction about Colombia, read William Ospina, he has a trilogy (Ursúa, El país de la canela and La serpiente sin ojos). He is a really good essayist too.
Piedad Bonnett is a poetess who's son committed suicide and wrote a really good book about her experience (Lo que no tiene nombre)
Fernando Vallejo is a writer that SHITS on top of very single important person or public figure around. He is irreverent and provocateur. Read his novel La virgen de los sicarios (about little boys who first prostituted themselves and became paid assassins) or El desbarrancadero (about the death of his brother).
León de Greiff is another real good poet.
Rafael Pombo is a great poet for children.

ask me anything if you want

[Anonymous No.18162101]

>>18162033
do you have some academic history books about the country that are well researched and sourced properly?

[Anonymous No.18162187]

>>18162101
Sure my fellow colombianist:
Colombia, una nación a pesar de sí misma de David Bushnell (pretty good overall and its one of the most recommended)

Colombia: una historia mínima de Orlando Melo (basic but good intro)

La violencia en Colombia: Estudio de un proceso social de Eduardo Umaña Luna, Germán Guzmán Campos y Orlando Fals Borda (top notch book about the violence phenomenon in the past 200 years aprox. -bit hard to find-)

Historia de Colombia y sus oligarquías de Antonio Caballero Holguín (about the powerful families and their sins, very good)

Manual de historia de Colombia de Jaime Jaramillo Uribe (the most comprehensive one, 3 huge books)

Colombia amarga de Germán Castro Caycedo (one of the best journalists ever wrote this book of chronicles in '83. I ULTRARECOMMEND to read 'El extraviado' -if thos gets enough replies, I'll translate it and upload it here on lit this week- (it's a harch testimony of a boy who got lost on a bus and became an indigent, thief, murderer, etc, and lived through so much shit until he found redemption (it's one of my fav chronicles EVER)))

[Anonymous No.18162224]

>>18162187
Want to read a good journalist and chronicles writer? Read everything by Alfredo Molano (very recent investigations about the cruelest events of guerrilla warfare and how they massacre countryside civilians so much, etc.)

Want a good play? Read La siempreviva (about the massacre of the Justice Palace in the 80's -very gruesome, watch videos about it on YouTube-)

>>18162101
Want a great academic historian in the form of podcast?
Search for Diana Uribe, she rocks

[Anonymous No.18162499]

>>18162187
Thanks anon, to repay you i'll recommend this book, which is rare as fuck, it details the fbi archive about nazi activity in colombia.Some of the information seem very factural, like a couple of spies that were discovered, and a failed fascist plot, and other things seem to be fbi speculation (like they though that fascist coup was inminent ) It talks about everything from prominent corporations lead by fascists like kola roman, and the colombian concentration camp for germans and japanese, it includes picture evidence of nazi meetings and shit

[Anonymous No.18162879]

>>18159782
I'm not Colombian, nor do I speak Spanish, but you fellows have the honour of having produced one of the greatest minds to have ever thought. Gomez Davila deserves a titanic spot in 20th Century lit, but he won't get it, because his works require a combination of rare things in order to be fully understood - a classical education, a reactionary disposition, a "sensuous" form of Catholicism, experience reading history and obscure authors widely etc.

He is my #1 literary patron saint. I stumbled across him randomly 2 years ago and since then have been studying his sayings daily.

If you are Colombian, could you tell me how popular/well known he is in Colombia? How influential were/are his family? Did he react to the political upheaval he experienced in his lifetime? E.g. How did he avoid meeting his end during "La Violencia"?

But yes, read the Escolios, Textos, and El Reaccionario Autentico.

[Anonymous No.18163737]

>>18162499
I have it but haven't read it, thx
>>18162879
>could you tell me how popular/well known he is in Colombia?
I'm colombian, sadly his oeuvre is not well known. I know a University here that has a class devoted to him in the Philosophy Mayor.
>How influential were/are his family?
He was part of a very high class family (was friends with ministers, presidents, church's powerful members, etc.)
>Did he react to the political upheaval he experienced in his lifetime?
I can't answer you this yet as I'm not as well versed on him as I'd like to.
>How did he avoid meeting his end during "La Violencia"?
Easy, he lived all his life shut-in in his big library house, and he didn't mess with anyone dangerous.

Bonus: A book summary that might interest you:
En mayo de 1973, Ernesto Volkening recibió de Nicolás Gómez Dávila un legajo con los textos inéditos que fueron publicados cuatro años después con el título Escolios a un texto implícito. “Inicio la lectura de los Escolios hoy, el día 24 de mayo de 1973 —escribió Volkening—. Y a un tiempo empiezo a tomar los apuntes con los cuales me propongo llenar este cuaderno, y tal vez otros.” A los pocos meses, a modo de homenaje y réplica, Volkening le presentó a Gómez Dávila los cinco cuadernos en que transcribió y comentó los escolios que despertaron con más fuerza su interés: “Ahora, cuando ya toca a su fin el hermoso viaje que me fue permitido hacer en su compañía, me pregunto qué pueda decirle para traducir en términos sinceros, justos y adecuados mi íntima convicción de haber leído un opus magnum”. Un diario de lectura, una conversación de la inteligencia, un comentario crítico de largo aliento, un diálogo dentro de una biblioteca compartida… obra única que complementa otra obra única, estos cuadernos son el fruto de la “labor de lector atento y discreto” de uno de los lectores más atentos (y discretos) del siglo xx en Colombia. La presente edición, que consta de dos volúmenes, recoge el texto íntegro de los cinco cuadernos, respetando la disposición del original, e incluye una comparación exhaustiva de los escolios transcritos en los cuadernos con los que se publicaron posteriormente en la primera edición de Colcultura (1977). Puesto que varios de los escolios que Volkening transcribió son inéditos o presentan divergencias importantes con respecto a los que luego pasaron a imprenta, estos cuadernos no solo revelan el agudo intelectual que fue Ernesto Volkening sino que son una ventana privilegiada al taller de escritura del maestro aforista Nicolás Gómez Dávila"

Book: "Diario de lectura de los Escolios de Nicolás Gómez Dávila. Cuadernos I y II "
Páginas 388
ISBN 978-958-774-936-6

[Anonymous No.18163744]

>>18162879
p.s. Also, where are you from and which books/editions are you reading anon?

[Anonymous No.18164660]

>>18163744
I'm from the UK, and since no (good) English translations exist in print, I rely on the "Don Colacho" blog, the "Davila Project" on Studio Yurodivy and various individual sites.
I have a Spanish copy of "Textos" I've tried to translate but my Spanish is too poor.

[Anonymous No.18165195]

>>18162033
>García Márquez is a must: read his complete short stories
What's a good collection in Spanish?

[Anonymous No.18165332]

>>18162033
>>18162187
>>18163737
bendiciones hermano, muchas gracias

[Anonymous No.18165338]

>>18159782
POSITIVO PARA ALCALOIDE DE COCAÍNA.

[Anonymous No.18165414]

>>18165332
forgot to ask: what is the absolute best book about the history of Hispanoamérica? I've read Eduardo Galeano but you guys told me it's some commie shit

[Anonymous No.18165900]

>>18164660
sup my fellow colombianist
PROTIP: There is a good translation in print: Scholia To An Implicit Text 9789588836003 (printed by his own publishing house)

>>18164660
PROTIP:Buy the Atalanta editions and work it up from them, they are top notch.

>>18165195
Buy Todos los Cuentos 9789585454682 , it's cheap and has all his short stories.
PROTIP: for 100YOS, buy the Cátedra edition 9788437604947 (heavily annotated (even for us colombians, he uses very specific and rare terms or folklore, but this book explains it all like a breeze))

>>18165332
Con mucho gusto, Don Nicolás es una joya sin descubrir, heavily underrated, y los demás escritores que recomendé son muy buenos

[Anonymous No.18165970]

>>18159813
>colombian women have nice TETAS
True
>and also they are all PUTA
False. The fact that your mom sucks dicks in alleys for crumbs is not related to this matter. In fact, colombian women are very religious and trad. A pity you won't ever find out, you shut-in inc3l fag

[Anonymous No.18166029]

>>18165900
please answer this question
>>18165414

[Anonymous No.18166441]

>>18166029
¿Hispanoamérica o Latinoamérica?

[Anonymous No.18166601]

>>18166441
I'd say Latinoamérica but then that dumb caps lock retard anon would correct me. Mexico and what's south.

[Anonymous No.18166653]

>>18166601
Don't worry anon
Everyone here on /lit/ hates that caps lock prick pleb.

RECS:
Las Venas Abiertas de America Latina - Eduardo Galeano 9789878010670
Intro (yeah, he's a leftist and this book is just a bit biased but is a really good intro overall)

Breve Historia de Latinoamerica - Manuel Lucena Salmoral 9788437623993
Short

Historia de America Latina - Edwin Williamson 9786071616463
Long

[Anonymous No.18167905]

>>18166653
cheers, you literally carried this thread on your back. Thank you again for the recs.

[Anonymous No.18168238]

>>18167905
No prob my man

Any other questions, I'll gladly reply

If this thread is still alive in 6 hours I'll try to search for the english editions of my recs

[Anonymous No.18168256]

>>18159782
Why are colombian chicks so fucking hot?

[Anonymous No.18168417]

>>18159782
Alright, time to drop the BOMB.
One of the best books ever written in Colombia.

Grandes borrachos colombianos by the renowned philosopher, professor and essayist Pablo Rolando Arango.

It's TOP NOTCH.

Do you want a translation of the first pages ? ;)

[Anonymous No.18168426]

>>18159782
Was your country destroyed by the amerimutt?

[Anonymous No.18168467]

>>18159782
As someone from a Colombian mother and white dad I wished I had a castiza gf, only type I would feel comfortable dating. It’s so hard to find racial counterparts as a mix.

[Anonymous No.18168488]

>>18159782
El café en Colombia, 1850-1970: una historia económica, social y política
>>18168417
Hola Pablo

[Anonymous No.18168534]

>>18168488
kek, not Pablo, but the anon who replied all the inquiries in the thread. I recommend this book cuz its amazing in many levels (humor, social critique, anecdotes, etc.)

[Anonymous No.18168733]

>>18165414
Not that Anon but I'd still recommend him regardless lf your political inclinations. I'll assume you lean more towards conservatism, but even if you do Galeano is still worth reading: he has a really nice, incendiary style which makes him enjoyable to read and if Open veins might not seem a good introduction to Latin American history it is, at the very least, a good way to understand the ideas held by XXth century Latin American intellectuals, something important when approaching a book like 100 years of solitude, for example.

[Anonymous No.18169311]

>>18168467
Same. Have a white dad and a Mexican mom. What sucks about being half beaner half white is that you're too brown to date a white girl and too white (but still not white enough) to date a brown girl

[Anonymous No.18170562]

>>18165900
He ran his own publishing house?

[Anonymous No.18170897]

>>18159809
>>18162033
Marquez is our worst author. Don't listen to these tourists. Its the equivalent of John Green

[Anonymous No.18171635]

>>18169311
I look white and most people think I am full white but I know I never will be. I just want someone or similar background.

[Anonymous No.18172917]

All right you bastards made me buy Gomez Dávila Escolios, I hope it's good
>>18168417
Is this an essay or fiction?
>>18168467
hi my future son
>>18168733
I've read it already and kinda liked it, don't know why anons are so pissed about that book
>>18170897
I like his prose, might be overrated but his novels are comfy, I bought his Cuentos, let's see how are they

[Anonymous No.18172972]

>>18159813
Las colombianas son putas, pero no tan putas como las venezolanas

[Anonymous No.18174118]

>>18172917
> hi my future son
OH NO DONT MAKE MORE CASTIZOS

[Anonymous No.18174889]

>>18174118
castizos are cool though

[Anonymous No.18175942]

bump

[Anonymous No.18176234]

>>18159782
I recommend Juan Rulfo and both of his works, Pedro Párramo and LLano en llamas.

[Anonymous No.18176255]

>>18176234
correction: Pedro Páramo.

[Anonymous No.18176349]

>>18170897
>Its the equivalent of John Green
John Green doesn't have a Nobel Prize, retard.
>Marquez is our worst author.
Imagine being this much of a contrarian.
>>18176234
Rulfo is Mexican, not Colombian.

[Anonymous No.18177191]

Why would a person throw away their life over a tax reform?

[Anonymous No.18177773]

>>18159782
You should be reading "María by Jorge Isaacs". A beautiful colombian novel about the love between two teenagers.
I recommend you "Cátedra" edition.

[Anonymous No.18177813]

>>18177191
the tax reform is kind of the straw that broke the camel's back
the elected govt has in the last 3 years:
>systematically disavowed all the steps towards progress made in the peace agreements of Habana
>allowed/incentivized the return of extrajudicial executions
>doubled down on an economic policy of full trickledown economics retardation an being OECD little subservient bitches
>criminalizing any form of oposition/ glorifying armed repression
>definancing public health/education/culture initiatives
>putting corrupt friends on govt places to consolidate (that is, to have any notion of) governance

People are just fucking tired of being fed the same dogshit and basically going back to square one as far the internal conflict

>>18159782
Here are some "deep cuts" for non colombians I like

>La tejedora de coronas
German Espinoza
It's like an adventure novel in 18th century cartagena (there's pirates and Voltaire and a bunch of horny shit)
>La ceiba de la memoria
Roberto Burgos Cantor
A super depressing historical novel about colonial cartagena, pedro claver, benkos bioho and the Cimarron rebellion
>la virgen de los sicarios
Fernando Vallejo
His books are good in general but I like this one, Is about an old bourgeouis homo getting boypussy and living through the violence of the 80s in Medellin
>los años del tropel
Fernando Molano
Again, super solid body of work, but this is the first and best IMO.Short sort of journalistic sort of fictionalized short tales about the political violence in the 50's (really REALLY fucking grim)
>La voragine
Jose Eustacio Rivera
This might be the fucking best Colombian novel of all times. It's about the fucking hell on earth that was the rubber boom in the amazon and the all-but-in-name slavery that was put in place to sustain that shit. Apparently the structure of the book is based on Dante's inferno

[Anonymous No.18177838]

>>18168417
yes. (not OP but yes)

[Anonymous No.18178666]

>>18164660
https://villegaseditores.com/products/scholia-to-an-implicit-text?_pos=2&_sid=d1d3baec9&_ss=r

[Anonymous No.18178745]

La Vorágine was so much fun to read