White fragility

[Anonymous No.18159190]

Has anyone actually read this book? If so can you summarise its central points?

[Anonymous No.18159193]

>>18159190
Sneed

[Anonymous No.18159197]

>>18159193
based

[Anonymous No.18159198]

Leftist gibberish

[Anonymous No.18159199]

>>18159190
It's not intended for reading, it's intended for placing it conspicuously so as to virtue signal

[Anonymous No.18159203]

>>18159190
>Are you white? Then you are racist even if you think you aren't. If you're conservative you're a blatant racist. If you're a liberal then you're a closeted racist (closeted even to yourself).
Do you want to *not* be racist? Well, too bad. The best you can do is hire me for $2500/hour plus per-diem to come speak to your group/university/business. By the way, I'm also available for zoom sessions for a discounted rate of $2400/hour during these pandemic times.

[Anonymous No.18159221]

It's about how evil white men are going to invent time machines so they can go back in time and prevent innocent hard-working African natives from inventing technology during the thousands of years pre-colonialism

[Anonymous No.18159227]

>>18159221
Africa would unironically be in a far better position if White people hadn't gutted and plundered it for centuries though.

[Anonymous No.18159257]

>>18159227
>muh noble savage trope
You're probably imagining them peacefully living off the land, happily minding their own business and making various varieties of rhythm-based drum music

In reality they would be killing each other with rocks and sticks in endless primitive civil war, sacrificing their children to the mud gods, periodically getting wiped out by curable diseases, and subsistence farming

[Anonymous No.18159309]

>>18159257
What the fuck is wrong with you? Why are you so racist? I never implied they would be living peaceably, I just know that they'd be living freer and happier than under the dominion of the white man.

[Anonymous No.18159311]

>>18159309
All niggers must hang

[Anonymous No.18159330]

>>18159309
>I just know that they'd be living freer and happier than under the dominion of the white man.
Blow it out your ass hippy

[Anonymous No.18159331]

Is there another leftypol raid going on?

[Anonymous No.18159332]

>>18159227
>cope

[Anonymous No.18159335]

It's a giant Kafkatrap. That's all you need to know.

[Anonymous No.18159337]

>>18159311
Hang their nuts in white women’s mouths?

BBC 4 LYF. BBC IS KING. KNEEL WHITEY

[Anonymous No.18159357]

>>18159309
>under the dominion of the white man
They haven't been under the dominion of white man for many decades now and lo and behold, they have yet to evolve into Wakanda.

As a matter of fact, because the white man has been brainwashed and is staying away because Dr. Shekelberg has convinced him that it is evil and racist to introduce white organisation and management, Chang is happy to fill in the power vacuum. I'm sure the Uigher treatment will be a massive improvement over colonialism

[Anonymous No.18159372]

>>18159357
This, it's been many decades and they're still crying over what the white man did way back when, instead of focusing on what the chinaman is doing right now.

[Anonymous No.18159374]

>>18159190
If you're white you're racist because your race has "institutional power" so you have to choose between institutional power or not being racist. Also, the fact that someone can paint your entire race as racist with no material recourse is not an indicator that you do not have institutional power

[Anonymous No.18159382]

>>18159374
At what point will whites just say ok deal with it

[Anonymous No.18159390]

>>18159382
Whites are so cucked, the only race that's architecting their own destruction in real time. Liberalism was a mistake.

[Anonymous No.18159391]

>>18159382
She actually got some backlash from the further left because she "created an identity of whiteness" that could lead to what you're saying. Essentially they were pissed that she said the quiet part out loud.

[Anonymous No.18159414]

>>18159257
>m-my worldview isn't retarded, retards and geniuses just happen to agree on some things. K-t's true! The midwits who are the real r-retards. I'm a genius!

Sure you are anon :^)

[Anonymous No.18159420]

>>18159391
>identity of whiteness
Is this a threat to the left?

[Anonymous No.18159443]

>>18159420
Try opening a white-exclusive club (next door to the black-exclusive club) on a liberal college campus and find out

[Anonymous No.18159523]

>>18159443
>Try opening a white-exclusive club
That's exactly the problem. If an identity of whiteness is created when white-only clubs aren't allowed then the identity will go underground and develop resentment as outsiders.
This threat has already been neutralized by the FBI perpetually claiming that we're on the edge of some white supremacy uprising, creating a casus belli to any collection of white people.
So to answer >>18159420 no it's not a threat.
The people on the bottom think it is because the people at the top need them to.

[faggot No.18159550]

>>18159190
Listened to the audiobook version of it.

I actually agree with the core ideas but the execution is so awful that I can't recommend this book.

Regarding the core ideas here's the analogy I like to use: Think of pollution, by living in a society that uses unrecyclable plastic goods and purchasing said goods you are making a tiny contribution to the giant plastic island in the ocean. That doesn't make you some bigoted heartless "polluter" but it's a byproduct of the society you live in and it's important to be aware of that.

This book uses the word racist to mean being an actor in a society where racism happens. I think the actual good takeaway is that race is a big issue in the US and it's important to realize this didn't happen outta nowhere and that we all contribute to this status quo in some way or another.

That being said: FUCK this book. If you like it, you have to be a big fucking cuck that loves getting talked down to.

Chapter 1: WHY YOU'RE A LITERAL RACIST AND I HATE YOU

Chapter 2: O shit did u think Racist meant you're bigoted??? Noooo, you're just a member of this society where racism happens.

Chapter 3: Why I still hate you and other reasons I'm better than you.

By the time I finished listening to this garbage at 2x speed my teeth were ground to dust and I had aged 2 years. It's sad because I think the core message is interesting but goddamn I hate being talked down to.

I'm so mad at how much time I spent writing this.

Tldr: Core message is alright. big time moving goalposts. Designed for absolute cucks.

[Anonymous No.18159577]

>>18159190
Essentially this
>>18159203

But essentially the claim is, there's differences in outcomes between white people and black people in our society, and this proves racism because race is no more than skin deep and so there's no possible other explanation for the disparities.
These disparities can no longer can be attributed to overt racism, so we're going to infer that there's covert racism. (Kinda like how astrophysicists infer the existence of dark matter).
So white people are still racist, even those liberals that claim they're colourblind or something.
They don't want to admit they're racist because they're to weak to handle that fact psychologically.
This is what Di Angelo calls white fragility.
This is essentially a roundabout Kafkatrap.
It's like accusing someone of being an alcoholic, and then getting the response: "I'm not an alcoholic", and then subsequently saying: that's exactly what an alcoholic would say.
But in this case you call that alcoholic's fragility.
Also the words racist and racism are of course redefined. Instead of a racist being someone who judges others based on the colour of their skin, a racist is defined as someone who participates in a racist system. I.E. is white and alive.
The existence of that racist system again is proved by the existence of disparities.

[Anonymous No.18159578]

>>18159550
Thank you for your service. I could never have gotten through that book to write a review.

[Anonymous No.18159636]

>>18159577
>there's differences in outcomes between white people and black people in our society,
How does the author reconcile these differences between the more favourable outcomes of asians (both East and south asians) against whites? Will he/she say there's racism against white people when asians start outperforming them?

[Anonymous No.18159648]

>>18159550
>Core message is alright
And what is this "core message" that racism is still a big part of the US? In which case I'd have to disagree with this entirely.

[Anonymous No.18159673]

>>18159382
2016

[Anonymous No.18159742]

Her experiences are exclusively lifted from manti-racism workplace seminars that her audience is forced to attend.
It isn't "Why it's so hard for white people to talk about race" so much as "why it's so hard for white people to be accused of being complicit in racism in front of their coworkers"
For example, her claim that white progressives tend to shy away from talking about race is false. Progressive whites absolutely love talking about race. But she confuses actual human interaction with her hr seminars, where loads of social dynamics lead to people shutting up, waiting for the damn thing to be over, and getting defensive when accused of something publicly.

Aside from that, individual suggestions in the book are outright bizarre. Like how she says white women should never cry in the presence of men of color because white tears are associated with the murder of Emmet Till.
It's full of illogical conclusions written by a grifter who makes a living by absolving lefties of their white guilt. Don't pay attention to it.

[Anonymous No.18159768]

>>18159257
So, learning?
Seems like a natural progression out of the animal kingdom we all made

[Anonymous No.18159788]

>>18159257
my instincts tell me you're a retard

[Anonymous No.18159797]

>>18159372
Personal narrative is more important

[Anonymous No.18159810]

>>18159788
How is he wrong though?

[Anonymous No.18159811]

>>18159390
People really ought to pay more mind to the cartoon industry

[Anonymous No.18159835]

>>18159390

[Anonymous No.18159852]

>>18159190
> If so can you summarise its central points?
Luxury belief for liberal white wamen

[Anonymous No.18159883]

>>18159636
They are “white adjacent”
Seriously, look it up.

Jews as a minority also out-preform whites, but of course the woke crowd just says they are white

They real fun will be in the next few years when the woke crowd tries to explain away Indians. They also, as a group, out preform whites.

Get your popcorn for that.

[Anonymous No.18159887]

>>18159550
>This book uses the word racist to mean being an actor in a society where racism happens
Is there a non homogenous culture/society in the world where this doesn't happen without some sort of extreme enforcement through force or social shame

If you have racial identities you will get racism.
Also there will always been advantageous groups. The idea is that the values will change over time to give rise to other groups.

"Minorities" isn't a race. It implies that having majority rule is advantageous.

Humanity is far from letting race go at this point. Racism is thus inevitable.
In which case, groups will support their own identities.

Obviously we're in a limbo state between things like character, shared values, states of mind etc. and "racial identity".
If you adhere to the concept of the latter, why the fuck wouldn't you support only, or primarily your own race?
Black people are starting to favor black business more. Good, right? It's not going to stop if "their group" happened to gain mainline cultural power.
This isn't a fear response or something, I'm just saying anyone who adheres to "racial identity" is naturally going to primarily support it for its own security and fruits.

Stuff like this is entirely blah blah blah to shift power around.
It's funny that she created strong "racial consciousness though"

Also, she's Jewish so there's that.

[Anonymous No.18159904]

>>18159636
The leftist trope is that certain choice Asians have internalized white supremacy
Not sure what the authors take is

[Anonymous No.18159907]

>>18159190
It’s pretty shocking how much Robin exposes how racist she actually is, and then she proceeds to project that onto all white people as if they have the exact same mind as her.

[Anonymous No.18159920]

>>18159221
Europe didn't invent the wheel either

[Anonymous No.18159944]

>racism is a problem
>but only when white people, the statistically least racist demographic, does it
>you can't be racist against white people
>all white people are racist

They really know how to prove /Pol/ right don't they? Especially when it constantly turns out to be Jews spouting this stuff.

[Anonymous No.18159962]

>>18159907
She's not racist at all nd she knows it. She's just pandering to the black myth of "all whitey get togetha and they shit on poc, gnomesayin?" It's purely for shock value. She's a narcissistic sociopath who has found a niche to grift.

[Anonymous No.18159973]

>>18159227
>never invented the wheel despite abundance of farmland and zebras

[Anonymous No.18159980]

>>18159887
These people say racism is "the problem". But they don't have a problem with racism directed at whites coming from non whites. That apparently is ok. So it isn't racism they have a problem with- it's white people. And they're saying this for shock value because they see no strong morality enforced in society, no framework or ethics anymore. They're the equivalent of a teenager breakjg windows to get a reaction out of a complacent parent.

[Anonymous No.18159986]

>>18159944
One way or another, its about power
The rest is just blah blah blah to get there

[Anonymous No.18159987]

I'm still yet to be convinced why being racist is a problem.

[Anonymous No.18159993]

>>18159257
>all that liberal cope from faggots who abandoned religion for social justice
lmao

[Anonymous No.18160004]

>>18159987
Old school racism was akin to judging a book by its cover. New school racism as in 'you are racist because you're alive in a world that has disparate outcomes for different people' isn't a real problem.

[Anonymous No.18160019]

This all comes from the reluctance in our culture to smack a woman upside the head

[Anonymous No.18160020]

>>18159987
That's because you're so racist that you don't even know it

[Anonymous No.18160036]

>>18159980
The word racism is made up.
It's definition can be bent all day
This is all about power distribution. It's quite literally straight out of Hitler's playbook.
Create enemy that's bullying you. Express why you deserve fruits and they don't. Minimize, reduce, attack them. Take what you want.
It's all narrative to move power around based entirely on race. That's all it's ever going to be. Just as we are not beyond race, we are not beyond the animal kingdom.

That said, I am inclined to assist anyone in poverty, but why would I help someone who projects into me that I am X category, X category is a threat, and it's okay to openly dissolve X category.
People make me white. I always cared about character, values, and mindset, but we are no longer in that environment.
Behavior is intrinsically linked to race, they seem to be saying.

[Anonymous No.18160043]

>>18159987
I feel like this is going to become a thought that more people entertain.
The right and wrongness of it

[Anonymous No.18160044]

>>18160036
Well put.

[Anonymous No.18160049]

>>18160036
>I always cared about character, values, and mindset, but we are no longer in that environment.

We are still largely in that environment; you just don't see it reflected in the media (mass, social, or otherwise). Go down to your local farm or lumberyard or woodshop or factory or store, though, and you'll find that people will by-and-large deal with you as you, and not as some representative of monolithic racial identity group.

[Anonymous No.18160053]

>>18159962
Bud she's Jewish
She's just directing the wave

Sometimes I wonder if they just shit test euros to see if they're continually fit to be dad

[Anonymous No.18160066]

>>18160020
>>18160043

For me, I'd rather be honestly and racist than its opposite. I know I'm racist, but only to cultures I feel are stupid, inconsistent, or have bad priorities. Cultures like Japan, for example, I like. I love Danish culture. Hell, I even love the French. Indians, pakis, chinks and certain Africans? No thanks pal.

[Anonymous No.18160074]

>>18160049
Most the types you're listing are likely to not be growing up in the internet era
This is going to be completely different in the following generations as they all become defined by the nightmare rectangle

[Anonymous No.18160091]

>>18160074
Maybe, we'll see. I'm in my late 30s and while the rhetoric was around when I was younger, that was also before social media really took off, and most people my age didn't get on the internet until their early 20s.

I dunno to be honest. I just think that in general people have a much harder time telling someone how evil he is in person than they do behind a keyboard and a screen.

[Anonymous No.18160112]

>>18160066
You can also appreciate diversity without having to endure Paco, Jamal, and Pajesh moving in next door thanks to the work of NGOs

[Anonymous No.18160123]

>>18160091
Individually I would agree with you. Thats the point of these protests and marches.
Burglary and Theft become protesting. Accusations and dangerous rhetoric become cries for social justice.

[Anonymous No.18160153]

>>18159883
They wuz also white because 3000 years ago steppe nomads conquered them. Simple ass

[Anonymous No.18160166]

>>18159257
Any good books on Africa?

[Anonymous No.18160182]

>>18159577
It's not a Kafka trap. A concept I will call "generalized racial equality" is a sacred Truth in post-war America, namely, that different racial/gender/etc. groups are, on average, equal in their abilities within any discipline, or, in a stronger form, that all Victim groups are innately greater than or equal to white men in ability within any discipline.

Now, I will prove that all white people are racist. If you deny racial equality in the above sense, trivially, you are racist. If you affirm it, you have to explain why average racial outcomes are not equal. Since you affirm racial equality, systemic racism must be the cause of statistical racial inequality. Think of it like dark matter in General Relativity. We know GR is "true" on the astronomical scale, so when we see gravitational lensing of distant light, we know that dark matter is present even if we can't see it. Similarly, since racial equality is True, we know that disparate outcomes must be due to invisible, systemic racism, even it's not codified into law. Since racism is prejudice plus power and whites have power, if you are white, you are a participant in systemic racism, thus you are a racist. All white people are racist, QED.

[Anonymous No.18160195]

>>18160182

[Anonymous No.18160202]

>>18160195
Reported to the ADL for anti-Semitism.

[Anonymous No.18160223]

>>18160202

[Anonymous No.18160262]

>>18159190

[Anonymous No.18160267]

>>18160182
>Now, I will prove that all white people are racist. If you deny racial equality in the above sense, trivially, you are racist. If you affirm it, you have to explain why average racial outcomes are not equal.
All of this stuff still intrinsically links behavior to race

Values change over time
Some groups are better at facilitating those values
I'm not going to China for their modern art
I'm not going to Yugoslavia for their manufacturing potential

Systems will benefit groups that adhere to certain behaviors and values
If it's grown tired or served it's purpose, those values and behaviors change so we can explore different territory or bring in new energy/blood.

Race equality is the same thing as all men are created equal
And then values are created based on environmental pressures, curiosities, competencies
This standardizes a hierarchy. Towers come and go.
There's never going to be racial equality. Just different groups getting their time in the sunshine at different times, and they'll soak it up so long as other groups let them.


If you have any sort of preference whatsoever in life, you have begun to create inequality.
Imagine living life without preference and consider if our culture is anywhere near this.
The use if the term quality is a vehicle of redistribution.
Imo middle class could probably start attacking rich more coattailing on that, but they're too complacent.

I'm not bothered by the black community on the rise. The methods that cultural engineers are using are disingenuous and retard everyone involved from what's really happening, and id rather just express that. It just gets them accustomed to being gaslit.
This is the original definition of PTSD that nam vets would use. The disorientation of coming home and being labelled the evil disgusting war monger by the people, having been led astray and lied to by your government.

[Anonymous No.18160270]

>>18160182
how do asian immigrants who come here poor and become millionaires fit into your calculations

[Anonymous No.18160273]

>>18160270
This doesnt happen with first gens
Usually takes 3rd

[Anonymous No.18160319]

>>18160273
cope. a simple google search will give you a litany of articles from sites like forbes and business insider about self-made millionaires and BILLIONAIRES who are hispanic, asian, arab and indian. there is no oppression holding back blacks, they do it to themselves.

[Anonymous No.18160322]

>>18160273
Yet afro americans have been there for generations and still live in ghettos

[Anonymous No.18160333]

>>18159811
why?

[Anonymous No.18160341]

>>18159883
liberals don't care about money, asians already do better than whites in alot of areas. I told my liberal "lefty" friend that rich people cant be oppressed and they looked at me like I was insane and told me Id never understand the asian experience

[Anonymous No.18160352]

>>18160341
>the asian experience
Squinting your way through life?

[Anonymous No.18160362]

>>18160019
men being submissive socially has led us to this lol, notice how men almost never speak about this stuff irl or on instagram

[Anonymous No.18160372]

>>18160362
That's because you're around cucks not men

[Anonymous No.18160387]

>>18160333
That's the root that shapes early minds
The CIA had close ties with Disney
Go choose any cartoon on Netflix and you can see the social engineering at play

[Anonymous No.18160399]

>>18160372
most of my friends are anti idpol its just this one guy lol, he's always been a bit cringe

[Anonymous No.18160405]

>>18160322
Chinese Americans share more similar values with European Americans than many Africa American
It's easier for them to find cohesion

[Anonymous No.18160406]

>>18160372
yes I am. The state of men is sad. This is just who I see in my classrooms etc

[Anonymous No.18160423]

>>18160341
I really found the film Rich Asians to be a great insight into the experiences of the oppressed

Porky sure does well to redirect the heat

[Anonymous No.18160436]

>>18160399
What?
>>18160406
Yeah that's what happens when you feminize a culture and let single mothers raise boys

[Anonymous No.18160446]

>>18159203
the funniest thing is that it wasn´t a black person who wrote this, even for their thinking they have to rely to outsiders, how laughable

[Anonymous No.18160449]

>>18160405
>Chinese Americans share more similar values with European Americans
Such as?

[Anonymous No.18160477]

>>18160449
Nope

[Anonymous No.18160478]

her argument is easily debunked if you really don´t care about meaningless stuff like racism/sexism, etc... but for some reason U.S education relies on this stuff to justify their existence, it´s a relic of cold war propaganda, if they were a little smarter they should´ve known that appeasing brown people will not solve the problems and the opposite will happen

[Anonymous No.18160569]

>>18159199
>sanitation
But that's wrong.

[Anonymous No.18160603]

>>18160478
Slave morality. That's why you never give an inch of power to the powerless, they can't handle it.

[Anonymous No.18160604]

>>18160477
Coward

[Anonymous No.18160635]

>>18159190
do burgers really?

[Anonymous No.18160649]

>>18159227
But whites never gutted or plundered the continent you utter fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.18160687]

>>18160649
Yeah I hear this a lot
Where does this come from? What happened?
Africa is pretty huge

[Anonymous No.18161007]

>>18160649
Literally every white civilisation was in a race to conquer Africa. White people were the worst thing to ever happen to that continent.

[Anonymous No.18161081]

>>18161007
>Literally every white civilisation
Bro slow your roll
Babushka never raped Africa
This tier of hyperbole doesn't lend credibility to your claim

[Anonymous No.18161140]

>>18161081
Google the "scramble for Africa", fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.18161151]

>>18161007
>>18161140
>Literally every white civilisation
Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.18161152]

>>18161081
>Another white person who denies the rampant violence of their race
It all gets so tiresome

[Anonymous No.18161164]

>>18161151
Whites as a group are collectively responsible for violence against Africans. Therefore every white civilisation that existed was complicit in the plunder for Africa since none were actively against it or tried to resist it.

[Anonymous No.18161177]

>>18161152
I didn't deny it
I asked for sources with genuine interest
>is all wypipo
My comment still stands
My Croatian family had nothing to do with genocide, colonialism, imperialism, or capitalism
But like a real racist, youll still slap labels on me because of the color of my skin

[Anonymous No.18161185]

>>18161007
You are not allowed to say this to the fragile white man. The white man is in denial.

[Anonymous No.18161191]

>>18161177
If you're white you need to take responsibility and try to help other races as much as you can regardless of whether your ancestors were directly or indirectly responsible for violence against Africans.

[Anonymous No.18161196]

>>18161164
>Whites as a group are collectively responsible for violence against Africans.
This is seriously getting so retarded
At the same time culture wants to atomized "white" when it serves them, while also unifying "white" when it serves them
Europeans come in all types
Again my rural farming Croatian family never did anything of the sort, nor did our long lineage of the area.
You are the racist.

[Anonymous No.18161199]

>>18161164
>>18161152
>>18161185

[Anonymous No.18161207]

>>18161196
You are being baited by a burgermutt croatbro

[Anonymous No.18161212]

>>18161191
I can't even tell what's trolling anymore
I'm not white
Slavs have not viewed themselves as "white"

I wonder how long until woke mobs go after "light skins"

[Anonymous No.18161224]

>>18161212
>>18161196
You white people need to remember that silence is violence. If you're not active allies in the fight against racism and bigotry then you're basically supporting it.

[Anonymous No.18161232]

>>18161224
It's getting tiring now schlomo

[Anonymous No.18161252]

*sighs* this thread proves how obtuse and stubborn white people are about accepting their racial crimes and paying their penance. This book is right about everything. It's a waste of time talking to privileged white people who are so ignorant of their past and their ability to correct the sins of their ancestors who destroyed every other continent in the world to accumulate and hoard resources and wealth. I guess we will never really live in a just, harmonious world where all the different races can coexist as long as white people stubbornly hold onto their ill-gotten wealth.

[Anonymous No.18161282]

>>18161252
Excellent bait, now fuck off

[Anonymous No.18161292]

>>18161224
So? Okay then, I support it.
It's mad how all your power is taken away when people come to that conclusion, no?

[Anonymous No.18161314]

>>18161292
>It's mad how all your power is taken away when people come to that conclusion, no?
Correct. I'm mad at how inhuman and disgusting you are.

[Anonymous No.18161319]

"I actually find it quite easy to talk racist"

[Anonymous No.18161323]

>>18161314
>dehumanization
Uh oh, that's quite fascist of you. Are you going to lock whites up in camps soon?

[Anonymous No.18161360]

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[Anonymous No.18161402]

>>18159190
>calls people racist (even if they arnt)
>is surprised that people dont like that
W-white fragility.

[Anonymous No.18161414]

>>18161323
>Uh oh, that's quite fascist of you. Are you going to lock whites up in camps soon?
Ironic since fascism is a white man's creation. Other races in white majority countries live in fear that whites will mobilise and lock them up in camps.

[Anonymous No.18161420]

>>18161414
God we can only hope.

[Anonymous No.18161425]

>>18161252
>just
Made up
>harmonious
Diversity implies battle

[Anonymous No.18161437]

>>18161425
>Diversity implies battle
Only when white people are present

[Anonymous No.18161587]

>>18159357
You do realize that Chang is regularly losing to the equivalent of hillbillies with shotguns in more than a few parts of Africa? if it's not ex-military whites, it is black folks that while not able to make a bridge, can operate a crack-open and a radio to coordinate ambushes. It's all a clusterfuck and Chang will probably resort to soft power grabs like in the west, but don't give people the impression that the chinese military is anything but dogshit.

[Anonymous No.18161596]

>>18161587
redpill me on what's happening with the chinese in Africa.

[Anonymous No.18161645]

It's an ideological screed. Its arguments function as a subroutine that demarcates outsider criticism while serving to define it within the terms of the given ideology (i.e. identity politics).

[Anonymous No.18161646]

>>18159190
There is nothing more satisfying than watching the downfall of the white race. Everything around them is crumbling and they've only just realized it. This is their punishment for ruining the world. And now their last "holdouts" are niche corners of the internet where they stew in vitriol, longing for a time that will never return. Thank you God for punishing this satanic race of jewish minions. We'll handle the rest.

[Anonymous No.18161676]

>>18159852
Second Religiousness

[Anonymous No.18161685]

>>18160262
I'm reminded of a 1920s book I read in a libshit class called Black No More, where some scientist figured out how to induce body-wide vitiligo in black people, coupled with new and cheap plastic surgery to make them indistinguishable from white until they have a kid. This sends ripples cuz black academics and leaders in the 20s that made money from the grievance culture are going to be out of business, and KKK-style groups are now going into insane paranoia about lineages since skin color isn't a clear indicator of whiteness.

Main character is a black dude who gets the treatment, and after lamenting that he can't kick back at his favorite spots no more, him and a couple other ex-blacks decide to scam white folks by starting up a fake white supremecy party called the Knights of Nordica, and fleecing people with membership fees.

by the end of it, they do well while some KKK leaders get lynched because people looked into it and they had black great grandmothers and shit like that.

point is, some modern woke shit just seems to be a delightfully clever hustle to me.

[Anonymous No.18161721]

>>18161645
This.

[Anonymous No.18161728]

>>18159227
In what sense? I mean, they would still be savages without the wheel. Maybe that's good, I guess. But one thing is for damn certain: the world would have been a lot better without importing them as slaves only for them to fester in spite and contempt, ultimately to destroy the west

[Anonymous No.18161833]

>>18161596
No real redpill, just a combination of ex-military Balkan friend's interactions and applying previous knowledge about both China and any place with locals that live in hellholes.

China's trying to conquer parts of Africa, setting up factories and trying to get resources. thing is modern China has consistently been seen to be shit in every conceivable way.

As in the Three Gorges Dam was made with shitty designs and lowest-tier concrete and it's just a matter of time before it collapses.

Chinese Military will make it seem like they're baller with cyberwarfare and nukes, but if you look at those shiny new bullpups dudes roll with, the sights are so fucked they'd be lucky to hit the broadside of a barn door, as well as their lack of aircraft carriers and amounts of armor and planes. AND LETS NOT FORGET ABOUT SOCIALIST CORRUPTION, where merit doesn't mean shit, only sucking dick and licking boot.

now, you have a good amount whites in parts of africa that are mercs or ex-military, and blacks that I'm going to give a fair shake and just say they're operating with less than stellar educational systems, who on the regular have to deal with wild animals, roaming gangs of ak-wielding bandits, and warlords.

The locals will know the land, and they are dealing with an army of sycophants and conscripts that don't want to be there. just consider these factors and tell me with a straight face that China is going to have no problems taking over Eastern Africa with force.

[Anonymous No.18161848]

>>18159190
I read it last year. It's a 150 page kafka trap about racism. Completely incoherent.

[Anonymous No.18161924]

>>18161645
>>18161848
Is there a good place I can find something written about "kafkatraps" that's in line with the definition in the message I tagged?

[Anonymous No.18162027]

>>18159987
being an enormous racist makes up one part of the ubermensch

[Anonymous No.18162823]

>>18161728
>only for them to fester in spite and contempt, ultimately to destroy the west
massive hyperbole. Honestly, what would America look like if it weren't for slavery.?

[Anonymous No.18163293]

>>18159227
Africa's problems stem from Africans due to their adaptations to their environment.

[Anonymous No.18163383]

>>18161164
Africans committed violence against other Africans and, if they had been capable of it, would have against Whites as well. Your argument fails to take into account the inherently violent nature of man. Just because one race won out over another doesn't make that race any less evil than the loser. It just means they were more resourceful and determined in their violence. Furthermore, I don't have any responsibility for the actions of my ancestors: I was born, I exist, I've never harmed or killed anyone, and I certainly don't owe any race something on account of the actions of someone I've never even met or heard of. Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.18163392]

>>18160273
Not true, also it’s not just Asians. Pakistani, Indian, Jews all are Bretty successful coming here, other immigrant groups that are not so rich are still relatively satisfied and happy living in USA, I see a lot of old Arab business owners that tend to be lower middle class in my neighborhood, their values don’t align with Americans generally speaking but they tend to not cause much trouble, (it’s their kids that are the fucking problem)

[Anonymous No.18163408]

>>18163392
Didn't he say millionaires

[Anonymous No.18163489]

I read it last week and it's pretty insane and disingenuous. It operates like:
>so i walk into a corporate board room
>youre all child molesters
>half the responses are bewildered or angry
> smugly: no, no you idiots
>child molestation has to divided into the thought and the act
>the thought is defined as any thinking which has been informed by society's shared information about the category of the child
>the act is when you use your privilege to act on any information which relates to the concept of child; adults are privileged so any act whatsoever that tenuously relates to the concept of the child constitutes child molestation
>see, so you ARE in fact all child molesters and now we need to address the sort of anger i just witnessed when i called you one
its basically this for the entire book where she just changes the common meaning of terms like racism, progressives, white supremacy, etc. in a way that makes it far more abstract and removes any notion of intention which normally underlie many of the concepts. the result is that the rest of the books sociological analysis "technically" makes sense, but only insofar as youre being diligent and remembering that she changed the definitions. It's pretty insidious because its natural to drift back to your normal understanding of the terms, and when confronted with some insane racist statement, the reader might think on the one hand "yes that follows from the premises ive been presented," all while ignoring the nuance dependent on the changed meaning of the terms, and re-accepting the insane statement at face value as if they are had presented it prior to the book.
note that its also not even working in sync with the black radical tradition and critical theory; its appropriating their legacy and some philosophy and representing it in vulgar, morphed form. I think the book will only work agaisnt the aims it ostensibly champions

[Anonymous No.18163573]

>>18163489
>>18161685

[Anonymous No.18163850]

>>18159197
>6'8"
He's a big guy.

[Anonymous No.18163872]

>>18159199
>was enslaving its neighbors
Really not the mountain Spaniards should be claiming the high ground on.
>practicing human sacrifice and cannibalism
Yes.
>teach them to read and write
They already had writing. The Spaniards are responsible for us losing so much of it.
>convert them to Christianity
Not an inherently good thing unless you're a Christian, in which case the point is irrelevant. It's the same as saying punching someone upside the face was a good thing because you were the one doing the punching.
>give them modern ideas of sanitation
The reason we have notions of native genocide is because of how depopulated they were by the diseases Europeans brought. Terrible, terrible mountain to stand on.

[Anonymous No.18163883]

>>18159414
coping, you're coping!

[Anonymous No.18163891]

>>18161191
>you need to take responsibility and try to help other races as much as you can
lol no I dont

[Anonymous No.18163903]

>>18159190
The relationship between the white man and black man can be over simplified in weird ways, and bullying others is not the best method for it.

I tried Ta-nihisi Coates book and it was weirdly hard to read. "X is a demonstration of a point, herego Y is the conclusion!" Is what I got throughout that guy's book.

[Anonymous No.18163924]

>>18163903
Also, both have ideas but they annoy me and failed in their execution.

[Anonymous No.18164029]

>>18159199
>>18160569
This, the Aztecs had better sanitation and medical science than the Spanish by a long shot. All that practice carving people up for sacrifices also led to them learning a great deal about treating wounds, performing surgeries and so on.

[Anonymous No.18164637]

>>18159197
Why "fuck and suck" normally it's "suck and fuck".

[Anonymous No.18164644]

>>18159227
Africa didn't even manage to settle madagascar. It was settled by people from oceania. Think about that.

[Anonymous No.18164700]

I think this article sums it up quite well:
https://quillette.com/2020/11/30/reinventing-racism-a-review/

[Anonymous No.18164781]

>>18159227
>gutted and plundered
Sure thing, Mamadou.
>centuries
You mean 70 years. Sub Saharan African colonization was a meme before the Berlin conference with the exception of Orange and other Southern tip states that had been settled on virtually empty land.
Africa has been decolonized for about as much time as it had been colonized. Blaming current problems on whitey occupation, three generations after, is peak denial of responsibility.

[Anonymous No.18164800]

https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anything-except-the-outgroup/


>Around the time the Ferguson riots were first starting, there were a host of articles with titles like Why White People Don’t Seem To Understand Ferguson, Why It’s So Hard For Whites To Understand Ferguson, and White Folks Listen Up And Let Me Tell You What Ferguson Is All About...

>And on a hunch I checked the author photos, and every single one of these articles was written by a white person.

>White People Are Ruining America? White. White People Are Still A Disgrace? White. White Guys: We Suck And We’re Sorry? White. Bye Bye, Whiny White Dudes? White. Dear Entitled Straight White Dudes, I’m Evicting You From My Life? White. White Dudes Need To Stop Whitesplaining? White. Reasons Why Americans Suck #1: White People? White.

[Anonymous No.18165276]

>>18164800
i blame abrahamics for fucking euros with shame and self denial for 2000 years

[Anonymous No.18165305]

>>18159577
So if I'm openly racist I'm not fragile?

[Anonymous No.18165316]

>>18159203
It's kinda like voluntary and involuntary egoism. If you think you're not racist you're basically haunted by spooks (you're stupid). I essentially agree with this book, except I embrace racism.