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Tell me about your favorite writer who doesn’t get mentioned too much on lit, and why you like them

>> No.18155244

Kawabata. If you've seen a post or comment about him in the past 3 weeks it's 99.999999% sure to have been me.
The prose reinforces the thematic concerns of his books, there is essentially nothing but symbolism, nearly no direct characterization, no extended internal monologues, and because of how loaded the symbolism is in his novels some of them become kind of thrilling despite being mundane. The last chapter of thousand cranes is so mundane - people decide to break their tea collection - but the way its portrayed is thrilling. He also loves to talk about very tiny situations and draw generational and cultural significance from them. Nothing is as simple and insignificant as the plot suggests.

>> No.18155257

Jonathan Swift, because I enjoy satire and eloquent dabbing on dem MFs. My favorite "meme" author, and second favorite author in general, is William Gaddis for the same reason.

>> No.18155290

>>18155257
Two based picks. I read the recognitions months ago and didn't want to return to it but the prose is so fucking good that in each of the last 3 nights i spent an hour flipping to my fav parts and reading on.
I was going to bring up how him and kawabata are similar in their character construction. No direct characterization.
Jonathan swift is a based pick too. The satire has many targets and is phenomenally executed in gulliver's travels, plus his poetry is hysterical. Loved him since i read the lady's dressing room.

>> No.18155297

>>18155290
personally my favorite piece by Swift is An Argument Against Abolishing Christianity

>> No.18155310

>>18155290
but I'll check out Kawabata, never read anything by him. I highly recommend JR, it's much easier to read than the recognitions and extremely funny. Maybe a bit slow to start but it rapidly picks up. JR himself doesn't bother to show up for like 70 pages though, how patrician of him.

>> No.18155327

>>18155244
I really like Kawabata too.

>> No.18155339

Man, it’s hard to think of authors who are never mentioned here. I guess maybe Henry James or Kazuo Ishiguro. They’re both mentioned here but not all that frequently. Alternatively, maybe Balzac. I really like Kawabata but someone already mentioned his books. A Thousand Cranes and Snow Country are wonderful books.

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F Gardner. Because I enjoyed Call of the Arcade.

>> No.18155349

>>18155339
oh man, when that dude was trying to force "the exit trilogy" with The Golden Bowl I read a bunch of good reads reviews of it while I was on acid and laughed me ass off at middle aged women complaining about literally not being able to get through the prose. I don't really have any interest in reading the book and they are probably mostly right because they all seemed to be massive James fans, but it was still really funny

>> No.18155352

>>18155310
Yeah, i have JR on my shelf and know i'll love it: the stylistic experiment seems to be in gaddis's wheelhouse. Carpenter's gothic was pretty good and the recognitions was awesome.
I'll check out an argument against abolishing christianity, i need to get up on more swift.
I say if you're going for kawabata, try to get into snow country, the sound of the mountain, and thousand cranes first. My fav is thousand cranes, but it is very haiku-like where most of the book is based on implication. Palm of the hand stories are fire as well, but uneven.
You read any barth or rabelais? They're great for gaddis/swift fans i imagine.

>> No.18155373

>>18155352
What language do you read Kawabata in? I’ve read only English translations and I really like them but for some reason I keep hearing from people that so much is lost in translation.

>> No.18155402

>>18155352
Rabelais wrote Gargamtua and Petagruel right? I was going to pick up a copy of that but it was totally filled with margin notes, I'll keep in mind. Barth no, I was worn on out the postmoxernists but the time I was considering him but now I could probably get into it

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>>18155373
English unfortunately. I'm sure its stunning in japanese. This palm of the hand story is a great example of early kawabata's style. Nothing really to write home about with the prose (at least until snow country) but it's kinda hemingway-ish: equally clean but somehow less hard and colder, super plain and relatively mundane scene, super compact, huge implications for every character involved, and only reveals itself to you upon really thinking about it. Still, glass, the silverberry thief, and canaries are probably better as microfictions.

>> No.18155439

>>18155402
Yeah, i'd say some of the less metafictional of barth's works. Giles goat-boy is much less masturbatory than the late stories in funhouse.
Gargantua and pantagruel is phenomenal (i've only finished books 1 and 2 tho), if you like swift and gaddis's poop jokes it's basically that for the entirety of the first 2 books.

>> No.18155449

>>18155213
sauce.

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>>18155213
Despite being very famous in his time, he is now only know by a handful of film buffs and lovecraft enthusiast. Irvin S. Cobbs is a very underrated writer in today’s world of literature. He wrote in many different genres including horror, comedies, westerns, travel, speechs and drama. Especially comedies and drama, as he’s considered himself a humorist. His short story, FishHead, inspired Lovecraft to write his novella, the shadow over innsmouth. Irvin Cobb also had a great prose for his stories, very much like Charles Dicken’s prose. Cobb had only got two movie adaptations based off his collection of short stories about his character, Judge Priest. Both of which were directed by John Ford but the first one had Will Rodgers (another man who is greatly underrated these days) as the character. Irvin also appeared In Will’s last movie before died in a plane accident called steamboat round the bend. If you want to start reading Irvin s. Cobbs, you got to read The Escape of Mr. Trimm: His Plight and other Plights. As it includes the story fishhead I mentioned before and a judge priest story.

>> No.18155539

>>18155244
How is Palm of the Hand? Maybe I have the name wrong but it’s his short story collection. I previewed a couple and they reminded me of Hemingway or Chekhov but with a Japanese touch

>> No.18155565

>>18155539
The highs are incredible, but the lows are forgettable. You never know when he starts giving you great ones so you have to keep reading all the way through. They all seem to dare you to assume there's nothing to them.

>> No.18155613

>>18155539
Meant to say they're definitely worth it in this other response >>18155565

>> No.18155948

>>18155213
Alain Robbe-Grillet. Very influential, but not much discussed. His novels have a fugue-like structure with repeating themes and variations that intertwine.

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>>18155213
Surprisingly i dont see Mosley posted here too often

>> No.18155991

Dylan thomas. Tons of amazing, meaty, musical poetry and fern hill is one of the best poems i've ever read.

>> No.18156175

Bump

>> No.18156187

>>18155213
didn't read your jezebel thread, sorry

>> No.18156195

>>18156187
I fuck with a bump anyway, cheers m8

>> No.18156218

>>18155420
I started learning Japanese because of his books. Unfortunately, my commitment and my progress has been intermittent so I’m still not confident to read him in Japanese but one day I will.

>> No.18156220

>>18156187
Based

>> No.18156235

>>18155449
Scarlett Leithold

>> No.18156269

>>18155213
Neil Gaiman. Simple and vague at the same time, less is more kind of style. Straightforward but always with a twist, dull but enthralling. I could keep going, I think you catch my drift.

>> No.18156309

>>18155449
Somebody that needs praying for is all that matters.

>> No.18156324

>>18155976
Yeah strange how the biggest losers in history aren't discussed much; wonder why that is

>> No.18156342

Obscure writers I've never seen mentioned once on /lit/:
Dickens
Hardy
Thackeray
Thomas
Kipling
Poe
Elliot
the Brontes
Lawrence
Ruskin
Chesterton (except in /pol/ bait threads)
Forster
Browning

Do people here not know about the 19th century? Should I explain it?

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She's really underrated here (for obvious reason). Summer is basically about the female version of your favorite incel protag. She's not what I expected from her to be at all. How much I enjoy female writers is a function of how ugly they are and how much they hate women and she's high on both scales.

>> No.18156503

>>18156500
I think she's cute

>> No.18156513

>>18156342
It's because they're good that shitposters never shit on them. And /lit/ is 100% shitposters.
>Browning
Robert or Elizabeth?

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>>18156503
She had silly turn of the century socialite fashion to boost her. Not attractive but cute for sure. Apparently also had some kind of freak genius for interior decoration, her first published book was on that subject and she said that her design was better than anything she'd written. Her house seems like a fun place to visit, pic related.

>> No.18156549

>>18156342
Yes because you are a newfag and /lit/ has been garbage for nearly a decade. Seethe redditir

>> No.18156582

>>18156500
Doesn't help that Ethan Frome (which sucks) is highschool core whereas actual masterpieces like Age of Innocence are not. Meanwhile her big statement book House of Mirth, gets little media coverage because of the ludicrous degree of anti-semitism

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>>18156582
>t.

>> No.18156597

>>18156587
Is this supposed to be the happy merchant?

>> No.18156605

>>18156342
>Muh dead white writers
Go back to /pol/ chud

>> No.18156609

>>18155213
Stephen Leacock

>> No.18156611
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>>18156597
Why of course anon :) the question is how did you know?

>> No.18156637

>>18156582
Ethan Frome is good, it's just light. Being palatable to highschoolers don't make it bad, Zenobia's a good "villain" and good insight for being the most explicit statement of her misogyny.

>> No.18156646

>>18155213
Vance. His approach to storytelling creates works that are short, but dense. He infuses most of his work with a constant undercurrent of irony that creates a humorous background tone.

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>>18156611
Your image reminded me of this pic, only even more minimal. And the text of your post combined with the general anti-semitism on 4chan suggested the Happy Merchant. The funny thing is, I guessed correctly without having read the post you were replying to, which would have been a great clue on your confusing image.

>> No.18156850

>>18156235
>>18156309
She looks bogged in a lot of pictures.

>> No.18156880

>>18156850
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbZDMIp29VI&t=38s

>> No.18157020
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Valentine Tomberg
Yes he looks somewhat like a rodent, yes he only wrote one book.
But that one book, Meditations on the Tarot, is some of the best written occultism since the Renaissance.

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>>18156611
>>18156696

>> No.18157063

>>18156880
MAMMARIA MAMMARIA!

>> No.18157204

>>18157063
Those bobs are gross.

>> No.18157475

>>18156880
How did you get access to that unlisted one?

>> No.18157535

>>18155213
Jack Vance and PG Wodehouse. The former was influenced quite a lot by the latter. Very comfy writers and great wordsmiths both.

>> No.18157560
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Bohumil Hrabal

>> No.18157562

I got quite a few but I'm really into humor/ satire. Christopher Buckley and Christopher Moore are both funny enough and I haven't seen them mentioned here ever(Christopher's dad William don't count).

>> No.18157575

>>18157535
I don't think I've ever seen Wodehouse mentioned here before. Jeeves and Bertie crack me the fuck up, good shit.

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>>18155213
Ed Abbey
>Loves the wilderness
>anti-government
>anti-immigration
>anarchist
>as he was dying, asked to get buried in the desert with a simple rock tombstone saying his name, DOB - DOD and ‘no comment’
>wrote Desert Solitaire, a much better Walden
A very based man

>> No.18157939

>>18156880
>>18157475
>How did you get access to that unlisted one?
I wonder that as well

>> No.18158029

Rebatet
im of course in the process of memeing him

>> No.18158088

>>18156342
>dickens
Largely trash
>hardy
Good in spots, but frustratingly mid
>Thackeray
Vanity fair was okay, idk beyond that
>kipling
Pretty good but still tons of terrible patches
>poe
Schlock garbage and mechanical formalism in his poetry
>elliot
Incredibly based, complete fire
>the brontes
Generally good but i havent read the one who isn't emily or charlotte
>lawrence
I want to read him and have lady chatterly's lover. Pretty stoked to.
>browning (robert?)
Incredibly based poet who even filtered joyce.
Wheres a good starting point for forster?

>> No.18158356

>>18158088
Lol he did filter joyce, i forgot about that

>> No.18158388
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Evelyn Waugh. Gorgeous prose stylist, unbelievably funny, and beginning in his mid period was able to weave total emotional gut punches in between moments of hilarity. A flawed man seeking grace. A Handful of Dust is one of my favorite novels of all time.

>> No.18158460

There's this russian guy called dostoevsky, he is pretty damn good but I won't talk about him too much, incase you pseuds start reading him.

>> No.18158727

>>18157575
Bertie might be my favorite narrator in fiction.

>> No.18158731

>>18158388
...I didn't know he was a dude or I'd've given him a chance by now.

>> No.18158801

>>18156324
I'm no fan of Mosley, but I find this argument dubious. For the simple reason that sometimes the good guys lose, and the same goes for the factually correct guys, or whatever.

>> No.18158828

rene guenon

>> No.18158980
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The authors of the HOLY BIBLE, a collaboration between ALMIGHTY GOD and man.

>> No.18159558

Bump

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>>18155213
IMAGINE HER CURLED UP AT THE FOOT OF YOUR BED DRINKING MILK!
COOM COOM COOM COOM

>> No.18160414

Bump

>> No.18160660

Gogol. Although he’s popular he isn’t talked about on here often. His work is just plain fun to read. When I first read him, it really surprised me. I was expecting someone in the Dostoyevsky/Turgenev/Tolstoy vein. He was almost a precursor to Seinfield type of observational humor. His short stories are very unique. Some are absurdist humor and others are a blend of folklore, humor and horror.

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It's gotta be Denis Johnson

>> No.18161297

>>18155213
Phillp K. Dick.

>> No.18161308

Is beastiality coffee good for you?