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Anonymous Mon May 30 02:28:55 2011 No.1814098 [Reply] [Original]

If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one. If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat. If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.

If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life. If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.

If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation. A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.

If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels. A liberal demands that those they don't like be shut down.

If a conservative is a nonbeliever, he doesn't go to church. A liberal nonbeliever wants any mention of God and religion silenced. (Unless it's a foreign religion, of course!)

If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it. A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:32:55 2011 No.1814102 I approve of this even though I wouldn't call myself a conservative.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:33:55 2011 No.1814103 oh shut the fuck up faggot. we just had this thread 2 minutes ago on /b and you got told like a bitch. get out of here, you've lost.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:34:55 2011 No.1814104 true as this may be, why are you posting this here? Social is that way ---------->

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:35:55 2011 No.1814105 >>1814103 Trolled hard, seems like he is winning to me. Sage for not lit.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:35:55 2011 No.1814107 Either cross-board samefagging or a copy/pasta. Either way, massive 4chan newfag cunt is massive.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:36:55 2011 No.1814108 reported

>>	Quentin !!p3mpBqBwOeY Mon May 30 02:37:55 2011 No.1814109 >If a conservative is a nonbeliever, he doesn't go to church. A liberal nonbeliever wants any mention of God and religion silenced. damn so true

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:38:55 2011 No.1814112 you guys are so mad already? whats a /b/? This is the first time i've posted this anywhere I sweardagod

>>	noko Mon May 30 02:40:55 2011 No.1814117 great false dichotomy you got there

Anonymous Mon May 30 02:51:55 2011 No.1814143

>>1814098
If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly molests boys, encourages male prostitution, and lies to his wife. If a liberal is homosexual, he looks it.

>>1814102
I don't care if you call yourself a teddy bear, this is all one sided bullshit meant to insult.
Not mad, just calling bullshit out.

Anonymous Mon May 30 02:52:55 2011 No.1814146
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remind me again, OP, was it conservative or liberal politicians who drafted and voted for the Patriot Act?

you were saying something about liberals banning things they don't like? do conservatives like or dislike the Bill of Rights?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:53:55 2011 No.1814147 >If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life. If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect. Conservative homosexual here who would like to get married someday. Is that the kind of "legislated respect" you're talking about?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:55:55 2011 No.1814155 Ohmygodthisthreadon/lit/? Like I said, 'conservative' and 'liberal' mean fuck all with regard to power. They are but vulgar moral tendencies touted as principles of governance by those who know nothing or by those who profit from ignorance.

>>	sage sage Mon May 30 02:56:19 2011 No.1814156 >>1814109 A /b/ is the board were you should've post this shit. >>>/b/

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:58:55 2011 No.1814161 http://www.stormfront.org/

Anonymous Mon May 30 02:58:55 2011 No.1814162

interesting pattern

"conservative....doesn't..."
"conservative...doesn't..."
"conservative...quietly..."
"conservative...thinks about..."
"conservative....switches channels.."

'liberal...demands..."
"liberal....wonders..."
"liberal....demands..."
"liberal...wants...."

conservatives are passive sheep
liberals are game changers and doers

Anonymous Mon May 30 02:58:55 2011 No.1814163

>If a conservative is a nonbeliever, he doesn't go to church.
But if a conservative IS a believer, he wants prayer brought back into schools, the teaching of evolution banned from science classes, and all homosexuals banned from getting married, holding teacher positions, being Boy Scout leaders or serving in the military.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 02:58:55 2011 No.1814164 >>1814156 he posted this on /b before and got defeated. Thats why he retreated to this board, in an attempt to hide.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:00:55 2011 No.1814168 If a liberal doesn't like abortions, she just doesn't have one. If a conservative doesn't like abortions, he wants all abortions outlawed.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:00:55 2011 No.1814169 0/10

Anonymous Mon May 30 03:01:55 2011 No.1814171

I'm a 'liberal', a socialist even, and I hate 99% of people who share the core of my views. Nothing is more annoying than an undergrad Marxist. I'd much rather be friends with your average 'conservative', even if they're wrong about virtually everything.

Anonymous Mon May 30 03:04:55 2011 No.1814177

>>1814163
The entire political spectrum in the US was based in some form of liberalism..bible thumpers and tree huggers are all sourced in the liberalism of the 1700's..what would anyone in the US have to conserve, exactly? There is no centuries of cultural history or traditional political structure (i.e. aristocracy) to return to for the US..

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:06:55 2011 No.1814179 >>1814163 Speak for yourself. Conservative here, and I support gay rights, and the teaching of evolution in schools. Mind blown yet?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:08:55 2011 No.1814182 SAGED AND REPORTED

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:08:55 2011 No.1814183 Please stop posting in this thread. Stop being trolled so fucking easily. This is a non literature troll thread. Let it die.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:10:55 2011 No.1814187 >>1814146 republicans are not conservative.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:10:55 2011 No.1814188 >/lit/ is lit related yeah all these tripfag and philosophy threads keepin /lit/ real

>>	SAGE SAGE Mon May 30 03:11:55 2011 No.1814190 >>1814187 GTFO OF LIT

Anonymous Mon May 30 03:12:55 2011 No.1814192

>>1814171
>even if they're wrong about virtually everything.
All socialism is based on the broken window fallacy and rejection of reality/science/economics

>>1814179
homo is a mental disorder and is EXPLICITLY CONDEMNED in the bible.
Being queer is morally offensive to every sane person. The thought process and actual acts, nevermind the ultra faggoty leftoid queer "culture" pushed by the media and degenerate sorts today.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:13:55 2011 No.1814195 >>1814162 Liberals are the troops of international jewry and marxism. They are USEFUL IDIOTS.

Anonymous Mon May 30 03:14:55 2011 No.1814197

>>1814179
No offense meant to the reasonable among you. [Though I'm not the poster]

>>1814177
I realize that we would all be considered reds in the eyes of the old monarchists (Hence republican red, I do believe) but your post is quite unreasonable. The backward lengths some of these new GOP are reaching for are truly mind blowing. Look up whats happening in Michigan.

>>	SAGE SAGE Mon May 30 03:16:55 2011 No.1814199 POLITICS AND SEXUAL ORIENTATION DISCUSSIONS: >>>/soc/

>>	SAGE SAGE Mon May 30 03:17:55 2011 No.1814202 GTFO OF /LIT/ GTFO OF /LIT/

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:17:55 2011 No.1814203 >>1814197 >The backward lengths some of these new GOP Ya because working for the genocide of the white race and the destruction of our nations/civilizations is truly "progress".

>>	SAGE SAGE Mon May 30 03:18:55 2011 No.1814205 GTFO OF /LIT/ GTFO OF /LIT/

Anonymous Mon May 30 03:20:55 2011 No.1814206

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Anonymous Mon May 30 03:25:55 2011 No.1814218

>>1814197
I don't see that as backwards. It is progress..not in the direction I would like perhaps, but the conservative labels is blowfully misapplied everywhere..people have no sense of history..even so-called Marxists..I was a Marxist for some time, at least ideologically, and now I am just pragmatic..power is not governed by ideology..ideology is more for the realm of self-governance..but i digress..what i was saying is that Marxism taught me to pay real heed to history..

SAGE SAGE Mon May 30 03:31:55 2011 No.1814225

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Anonymous Mon May 30 03:32:55 2011 No.1814226

Here's how I see it

Social Conservatives - Dip shit, bible thumper
Social Libertarians - Bro's, get state out of marriage, Freedom of speech, legalization of drugs, ect
Social Liberals - LOL, BAN BAN BAN BAN.
Social Marxists - Retards who take the Nature vs Nurture argument to the fallacious extremes.

I think we can all agree that Social liberals are the worst.

Anonymous Mon May 30 03:32:55 2011 No.1814228

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Anonymous Mon May 30 03:34:55 2011 No.1814230

>>1814218
Your lack of a label for your ideas does not impress me, nor does your interest in Marxism. In fact its just as offensive as your willingness to sacrifice democracy for the profits of a few.

You do know they're taking away Benton Harbors beach to put up luxury condos and a golf course, and this will in no way benefit the poor of Benton Harbor?
And that the one profiting form this deal was the man who wrote the bill signed into law?
You don't see this as backwards?
I was being generous actually. This is treasonous.

[Not saging because its still on the front page anyway]

>>	Anon. Mon May 30 03:36:55 2011 No.1814234 >>1814098 >If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it. A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his. So much stupidity in this statement.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:36:55 2011 No.1814235 Hey, /lit/, Y U NO REPORT THIS THREAD?

SAGE SAGE Mon May 30 03:37:55 2011 No.1814238

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Anonymous Mon May 30 03:41:55 2011 No.1814240

>>1814230
I said I was opposed to these actions, but calling them ''backwards'' is misleading..What I have been opposing ITT is the dichotomy set up between ''liberal'' and ''conservative''..The truth is that it is all liberal and so, really, I would only favor progress in a radically different direction..of course I oppose the products of the spectacle, but I also oppose it's mechanism --in total--this con/lib game is for suckers..there are no conservatives in the US..Marx opposed liberalism but the history-blind 'left' of today has forgotten and sadly thinks a liberal is the lesser of two evils..it's pure spectacle

Anonymous Mon May 30 03:41:55 2011 No.1814241

>>1814226
You aren't too bright either.
"Liberal" means liberty, liberation.
So when referring to "social" its a huge umbrella term in this case. No one party/ideology is of one mind on any given topic, but all lefties and libertarians stand for more social freedoms.

Did you think it was only libertarians fighting for gay marriage rights?

SAGE SAGE Mon May 30 03:42:55 2011 No.1814243

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>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:45:55 2011 No.1814249 >>1814243 >sage does a thing on /lit/ >you're contributing to /lit/ and not spamming a thread like a roodypoo WAHH IM TELLIN

Anonymous Mon May 30 03:46:55 2011 No.1814250
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>>1814240
You called it progress. I call it treason.
>The truth is that it is all liberal
Too narrow a way to look at it. Read 1848. The author mentions all the subtle differences.
>this con/lib game is for suckers
Because of corruption from the wealthy. Again. I know.

>>	sage sage Mon May 30 03:51:55 2011 No.1814256 >>1814249 Sageing a troll thread shows that you are not an idiot or a samefager. SAGE goes in all fields, if you don't know how to use it >roodypoo Go back to >>>/b/, you don't belong here.

SAGE SAGE Mon May 30 03:52:55 2011 No.1814259

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Anonymous Mon May 30 03:52:55 2011 No.1814260

>>1814250
I just think the mess would be easier to clean up if we didn't give our enemy the dignity of pain-staking articulation..the thieves of the revolutions in the 1700s were the same thieves in the 20th century and today..less passion, more pragmatism and the true left might go somewhere

SAGE SAGE Mon May 30 03:53:55 2011 No.1814262

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>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:54:55 2011 No.1814263 >>1814256 >Sageing a troll thread shows that you are not an idiot or a samefager. LOL i think we found OP

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>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 03:57:55 2011 No.1814266 >>1814260 >the dignity of pain-staking articulation What are you talking about?

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Anonymous Mon May 30 04:00:55 2011 No.1814272

>>1814266
basically saying that anyone operating in the prevailing political scheme is not an enemy of the people gives them too much credit..doesn't matter which side they are on, they are the same thing..liberalism is terrible, conservatism is a joke (like I said what do we go back to, exactly?)

>>	SAGE SAGE Mon May 30 04:01:55 2011 No.1814273 GTFO OF /LIT/

Daft !Punk.1WkDc Mon May 30 04:06:55 2011 No.1814281
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TIL that the political false dichotomy is well and alive. Here's the reality people.

Conservatives are either:
A. Working class bigots who are easy to persuade against their interests or
B. 15 year olds who read a lot of Ayn Rand bu didn't pay attention in history class

Liberals are either
A. Wealthy elitists who are too "progressive" for right wing bigotry but too rich for anything but an iota of wealth redistribution or
B. College kids with little to no exposure to actual leftist resources and a strong predisposition to capitalism. A lukewarm capitalist I'd say. These liberals still consider such words as socialism "radical".

I, personally, am an anarcho-mutualist. I am anti-government and anti-corporations because I loathe the centralization of power.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:08:55 2011 No.1814284 >>1814272 Genuine articles. You an anarchist?

SAGE SAGE Mon May 30 04:08:55 2011 No.1814285

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>>	Daft !Punk.1WkDc Mon May 30 04:11:55 2011 No.1814289 >>1814272 Woah, two anarchists in this thread. I hope our ideology is spreading.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:13:55 2011 No.1814293 File: 30 KB, 333x500, Roseannearchy_Dispatches_from_the_Nut_Farm-68922.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just read this. Thread over.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:14:55 2011 No.1814295 >>1814289 It seems pretty popular in Spain and France right now

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:16:55 2011 No.1814297 File: 61 KB, 480x640, Anarchist.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1814281 >Liberals are either >A >B Or C. History, poly-sci, sociology enthusiasts Be patient young anarchists. Wait your turn.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:17:55 2011 No.1814299 >>1814284 >>1814289 Yes it is easiest to say I'm an anarchist, but I won't feel like I earned it until I set fire to a court house or liberate a jail..

>>	Daft !Punk.1WkDc Mon May 30 04:18:55 2011 No.1814300 >>1814297 You liberals are too soft, fuck capitalism

>>	perma-bandit !uWGglvdFJw Mon May 30 04:29:55 2011 No.1814315 >>1814300 >implying it's not actually the conservatives who support and perpetuate the capitalist hegemony

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:30:55 2011 No.1814318 >>1814315 haha I like ur name :P~~

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:32:55 2011 No.1814321 >>1814315 >implying this is not done equally if not more by so called liberals capitalism 2.0 will have strong 'distributist' tendencies..china reveals that capitalism works just fine without democracy or western culture..

Anonymous Mon May 30 04:34:55 2011 No.1814322

>If a conservative is a nonbeliever, he doesn't go to church. A liberal nonbeliever wants any mention of God and religion silenced.

I think you're all forgetting that the very first amendment calls for separation of church and state, so in fact silencing religion is following the original rule of the country that conservatives claim to love and cherish so damn much
nice try though quentin

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:37:55 2011 No.1814325 >>1814321 >China reveals that capitalism works just fine without democracy or western culture Oh we knew that (Didn't we?) But what can anarchism bring to that table? (You are one of the anarchists, no?)

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:39:55 2011 No.1814327 >>1814322 >I think you're all forgetting that the very first amendment calls for separation of church and state Its a GOP platform to deny the separation. They only do it to appeal to their Christian base of course.

>>	Quentin !!p3mpBqBwOeY Mon May 30 04:41:55 2011 No.1814331 File: 6 KB, 215x234, hitler and stalin.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1814322 yeah because having an atheist for a leader has always worked out real well right not pictured: mao zedong, mussolini

Anonymous Mon May 30 04:44:55 2011 No.1814335

>>1814327
obviously it's a platform, they'd be burned at the stake if it weren't. Considering in the 2008 republican caucuses 60% of christian's aligned themselves as born again it's pretty obvious that christian ideals dominate the republican idea of government, and that's not even counting the non born again christians

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:46:55 2011 No.1814337 File: 19 KB, 407x333, 1277797095850.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1814331 So retarded.

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Anonymous Mon May 30 04:50:55 2011 No.1814341

>>1814331
do you know what a logical fallacy is? it's what you use in a professional debate right before you lose. Claiming religion
Fallacy of False Cause or Non Sequitur: incorrectly assumes one thing is the cause of another. Non Sequitur is Latin for "It does not follow."

claiming because they're atheist led to that fallacious, look at christian leaders who have fucked the world in the name of god
here's a few for you
Mangosuthu Buthelezi
Frederick Chiluba
Roberto D'Aubuisson
Efrain Rios Montt
Augusto Pinochet
Jorge Serrano
Mobutu Sese Seko
Charles Taylor

not to mention che guevara was a good ol' catholic boy

Anonymous Mon May 30 04:52:55 2011 No.1814347

>>1814325
Well to be honest I am just anti-state, anti-capitalism and anti-prison..i think it's best to define what i want to abolish rather than posit a progressive notion of post-revolutionary organization (as anarchism does)..i think the post-revolutionary organization will happen organically, hopefully retaining the prejudices of the revolutionary period and its aspirations

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 04:55:55 2011 No.1814349 File: 86 KB, 390x314, ErectGOP.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1814341 >do you know what a logical fallacy is? He doesn't. He's a Christian conservative. Stop bumping

>>	Quentin !!p3mpBqBwOeY Mon May 30 04:57:55 2011 No.1814353 File: 51 KB, 1400x1050, the victims of atheism.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1814341 all of those men put together were probably "responsible" for like what less than a million deaths

Anonymous Mon May 30 05:02:55 2011 No.1814362

>>1814353
Who's counting? No really, you realize that numbers can be made up on the spot..offset Stalin's by a shit ton for defeating hitler, btw. No seriously, the USSR suffered staggering casualties in WW2 & did immeasurably more to stop the Nazis than the US did

Anonymous Mon May 30 05:02:55 2011 No.1814363

>>1814353
ah yes, murderous dictator so they must be atheist?
looks like you left hitler off that list? any reason why? oh yeah? he was a god man wasn't he? didn't he also permit genetic experimentation and concentration camps?

good man quentin good man

Anonymous Mon May 30 05:07:55 2011 No.1814369

>>1814241
>"Liberal" means liberty, liberation.

It used to, but now the term has been hijacked by the progressives. They are about the same on Individual rights as the conservatives.

>but all lefties and libertarians stand for more social freedoms.
>all lefties
Oh Oh Oh, you been serious. Some lefties LOVE to regulate our lives for the "good of the community". By your logic Lenin and Stalin were pro social freedom just because they were a lefty.

The only one's who are persistent pro liberty are libertarians.

>Did you think it was only libertarians fighting for gay marriage rights?
Social Liberals are a mixed bag on personal liberty.
>For Legalization of Dope
>Ban happy meals in San Fransisco.

>You aren't too bright either.
Ironic for the who got it all wrong.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:07:55 2011 No.1814370 >>1814363 acutally hitler is on the atheist side lol

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:07:55 2011 No.1814372 >>1814353 >implying individual people personally kill those numbers >implying murder does not become a social paradigm, an economic program, diffuse and epidemic among the people Still, I am a Christian, but this is all bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:09:55 2011 No.1814375 >People on /lit/ seriously retarded enough to be anarchists Good little goys, your jevvish overlords must love you

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:10:55 2011 No.1814376 >>1814353 >doesn't cite any of the wars waged by god in the b.c. Way to leave out millions and millions of deaths

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:11:55 2011 No.1814380 >>1814370 yeah I see that now, hitler was a christian though

>>	Quentin !!p3mpBqBwOeY Mon May 30 05:12:55 2011 No.1814381 >>1814363 he's on the atheist side you stupid fuck

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:12:55 2011 No.1814382 >>1814353 The funny thing is, the crusades were fought mostly for economic and territorial reasons. It really had nothing to do with religion, all religion did was give it a justified kick. It would've happened regardless

Quentin !!p3mpBqBwOeY Mon May 30 05:13:55 2011 No.1814387

>>1814380
Hitler wasn't a Christian. Believing in God doesn't make you a Christian, and whether or not he believed in God is another story. Because he was a fascist, he was automatically anti-religion.

>>1814382
>The funny thing is, the crusades were fought mostly for economic and territorial reasons.
stop! you're being reasonable

Anonymous Mon May 30 05:14:55 2011 No.1814388

>>1814380
I see both sides arguing about this, but does anyone have any proof

I see atheists claiming that he appealed to Christianity in his speeches, but Hitler lied like a snake. And Hitler has been recorded saying that Christianity is useless for propaganda and that they were unfortunate not to have islam

Anonymous Mon May 30 05:16:55 2011 No.1814393

>>1814375
Do wha? listen bro, anarchism is against overlords,see? These ''jews'' might think they can appropriate the anarchy indefinitely, but eventually the dog chews its master's throat, breaks the chain and runs free..jewish or not, they all have to go. You seem more their speed, what with promoting the idea that they are in charge..you know it's a lot easier to convince than to compel? food for thought.

!benji da artist !!r6EGzM21nYM Mon May 30 05:18:55 2011 No.1814395

>>1814387
it's sad how much of a red herring (another logical fallacy) you threw out there by saying atheist dictators are bad
The original point made was that the gop is biased as fuck towards the christian side. No shit america's gonna have a christian president, it's a nation full of sheeple
but damn if there isn't a sheeple group nearly as ignorant as the christian republicans

Anonymous Mon May 30 05:21:55 2011 No.1814397

>>1814393
No, Anarchism is just another form of slavery.

Today we serve whoever has the most money and political power, we have limits in place. But they get crossed all the time

Under Anarchism, we would serve whichever of our neighbors has the biggest stick. You are free to be enslaved by your peers.

And the jevvish comment was mocking how Anarchism usually turns out like in reality. It's always been an excuse to justify another form of Statism.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:24:55 2011 No.1814400 >>1814387 >Because he was a fascist, he was automatically anti-religion.

Quentin !!p3mpBqBwOeY Mon May 30 05:24:55 2011 No.1814401

>>1814395
>guys look at me i'm dropping philosophical and latin terms all over da place !

anyway, atheist dictators are bad. i mean gee, when was the last time you heard of a "good" atheist dictator?

and so what if people are biased toward Christians? they should be. Christianity is the basis of western civilization and its morals. If you reject Christianity, you're rejecting your nationality and any type of morality that comes with Christian virtue.

Anonymous Mon May 30 05:28:55 2011 No.1814406

>>1814401
>anyway, atheist dictators are bad. i mean gee, when was the last time you heard of a "good" atheist dictator?

Have you ever heard of a good dictator? Atheist or Theist?

>and so what if people are biased toward Christians? they should be. Christianity is the basis of western civilization and its morals. If you reject Christianity, you're rejecting your nationality and any type of morality that comes with Christian virtue.

You do have a point, if we all adopted Atheism tomorrow that would be a big chunk of Western culture gone. It'll slowly be phrased out and replaced by some other form of faith based ideal, probably Marxism again.

>>	!benji da artist !!r6EGzM21nYM Mon May 30 05:28:55 2011 No.1814407 >>1814401 the highest percentage of hate crimes come from people with a christianity as their religion. Man I love those abortion clinic firebombers/murders

Anonymous Mon May 30 05:28:55 2011 No.1814408

>>1814397
You can't predict the future, you don't seem to know the past..You are saying anarchism will bring about a rule by force? What do you think we have today? We have elections but you cannot elect to not pay taxes, or to use heroin, etc. we will get rid of these very bad neighbors with their very big sticks first, and after that sort out the comparatively smaller problems

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:29:55 2011 No.1814410 >>1814401 Stagolee thinks "red herring" is Latin.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:30:55 2011 No.1814411 >>1814406 >Have you ever heard of a good dictator? Atheist or Theist? dude you missed this part >>1814400

>>	Quentin !!p3mpBqBwOeY Mon May 30 05:31:55 2011 No.1814412 >>1814400 >>1814411 what point are you trying to make here that you don't understand history and politics?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:33:55 2011 No.1814413 >>1814400 >fascist automatically anti-religion uh Franco you idiot

Anonymous Mon May 30 05:35:55 2011 No.1814414

>>1814408
>You can't predict the future, you don't seem to know the past.
Uhh, actually Anarchism has always failed and deteriorated into Statism.

>You are saying anarchism will bring about a rule by force?
Yes

>What do you think we have today?
Mob rule, rule by majority. It's still force based, but at least the majority's interest is better for society overall than the minorities interest.

>We have elections but you cannot elect to not pay taxes or to use heroin, etc.
If the mob decides to we could not have taxes. But the mob decided otherwise.

>we will get rid of these very bad neighbors with their very big sticks first,
I'm assuming you mean mob rule will get rid of the bad neighbors with very big sticks. That takes a democratic process, which is leading us close to where we started.

>and after that sort out the comparatively smaller problems
Through the use of Force?

Anonymous Mon May 30 05:43:55 2011 No.1814420

>>1814414
>Uhh, actually Anarchism has always failed and deteriorated into Statism.
Which anarchism are you talking about? Anarchists may have regularly been crushed by the state in the past, but their projects have rarely if EVER ''deteriorated'' into 'statism' that would not even be possible, would they form little 'states'? I'm going to need your examples, i think you're confused.
>Mob rule, rule by majority. It's still force based, but at least the majority's interest is better for society overall than the minorities interest.
We are actually ruled by a small group, administered by many, but still not the majority. The majority has elections, but we don't vote on laws we vote on officials and they rarely vote to repeal laws..only to create new ones..no matter what, the desires of the majority are not satisfied. nor the needs.

Anonymous Mon May 30 05:45:55 2011 No.1814421

>>1814414
>Uhh, actually Anarchism has always failed and deteriorated into Statism.
Yes, the thousands, hundreds... er tens? Ten? ...of anarchist experiments that time after time have confirmed this.

Aside from this, name some examples of anarchy deteriorating into Statism.

Anonymous Mon May 30 05:48:55 2011 No.1814422

>>1814414
We are not ruled by the mob, that would be closer to anarchism than the highly regimented system of controls that are in place now..more all the time, from above...we take away by force the incentive, the ability or the hope of those in power to stay in power, and after that we try something else, it is worth it just for the renewal

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 05:59:55 2011 No.1814435 >>1814422 Rule by a group of people put into place by the mob, with little real stricture on their power, is only a little to be distinguished from mob rule. And that is more or less what we have now.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 30 06:03:55 2011 No.1814442 >>1814435 not really, there is more at work than elections..even to the naked eye..why do you think corporations donate billions to campaigns? It's not because they love campaigns.

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