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I'm reading Thus spoke Zarathustra for the second time and this time I'm reading it slower and more in depth. So much wisdom can be gathered from this book and the language is so rich and beautiful. It's almost like reading poetry. I just finished book I.

What is your favorite part of the book? I think Zarathustra's prologue is one of the best things ever written. For me it's in the same league as Shakespeare, Dante, Melville, you name them.
Which part in thus spoke Zarathustra inspired you the most? Why is it the best of Nietzsche's work, even better than the gay science?

pic rel is homemade in ms paint

>> No.18076901

I think I will also read it multiple times over the years. I read it once and understood maybe a third to half of it. But what I read that I understood was sublime. What stuck with me the first time was his growing despair that his disciples do not understand and pervert his teaching. I do not like the parts of songs and poetry though.

>> No.18077394

bump

>> No.18077524

I'm about halfway through (first read but I'm very familiar with Nietzsche). Highlights so far are Of Self-Overcoming, Prologue, War and Warriors, Fleas of the Marketplace, The Rabble, Of Famous Philosophers and The Stillest Hour.

>> No.18077536

>>18076901
>I do not like the parts of songs and poetry though.
I agree, I feel like N is at his best when he is able to integrate poetic language into philosophical conceptualizations and critiques. His poetry and songwriting is ok, but the Night/Dance Song for instance felt very mediocre to me in contrast with more inspired sections of the book.

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>>18076867
Go to the source.

>> No.18077952

>>18076867
My fav part so far is the Tightrope walker.
He is a jester buried into a tree. Zarathustra says he loves him who goes willingly UNDER. Almost as if they're summoning the overman through lightning and all that jazz. Whoa bro

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>>18076867
I have been wanting to read this, as I hear it's a great book but I have seldom read philosophy save for your common political books like Mein Kampf and Das Kapital.

Is this a book I could start with?

>> No.18079131

>>18079085
its written in a narrated style, pretty easy to pick up, but harder to understand

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>>18076867
Which translation are you reading? My favorite part has always been The Night Song.

>>18077559
>the source
Pic rel

>> No.18079306

>>18079085
zarathustra is the final Neech boss. Read his other stuff first.

>> No.18079422

>>18076867
I dont enjoy life.

>> No.18080626

>>18076867
I started reading Zarathustra again this year, and am experimenting with recording my readings and pairing them with music/ambient soundscapes etc. Attempting to post daily!

https://youtu.be/X-Gtw8Dbvo8

>> No.18080685

>>18076867
Yeah, I love Thus Zarathustra Spoke along with the The Unique and Its Property. Stirner and Nietzsche complement each other well even though they have significant differences.

>> No.18080875

>>18076867
Thank you for the art anon, very cool.

I'm currently reading it, favorite quote so far:
"They are frank, honest, and kind to one another, as grains of sand are frank, honest and kind to grains of sand" from On the Virtue that Makes Small.

>> No.18081079

>Which part in thus spoke Zarathustra inspired you the most?
Nietzsche's animals! They're such a delightful metaphor. Wonder if the eagle is an allusion to Odin?

>> No.18081112

>>18081079
The Tantalus section is an allusion to socialists.

>> No.18081410

>>18081112
The Tarantula section you mean? I read somewhere that there are also specific allusions to Salome and Ree in that section

>> No.18081438

>>18076867

idk but that's the best ms paint i've ever seen

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On the Tree on the Mountainside, On the new Idol and the prologue talking of the last man

>> No.18081534

>>18076867
you cant see the real beauty behind a translation you poor pleb

>> No.18081868

>>18081534
Who said i read a translation?

>> No.18081904

Of Self-Overcoming and Before Sunrise are the best chapters

>> No.18082030

I’ve been reading it on apple books, its a great book for commuting because you can read a short passage then stare out the train window for 10 minutes.

I really struggled with the book until I realised there was an appendix that gives some context to most of the chapters. (Apple books is not very user friendly, theyre just stuck right at the end, no links through or anything. )

Using the appendix for aid is like someone switched a light on. I think I’ll get an annotated paper copy in a year or two, really rewarding book.

>> No.18082367

for all the ubermensch ITT:
listen to this in audiobook form while going on walks. you will not be disappointed!

>> No.18083808

>>18079295
>>the source
>Pic rel
No, that would be the cyclicity of the Ring.

>> No.18084669

>>18082367
XD