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[Anonymous No.18048164]

Where does one start with neuroscientist and philosopher Sam Harris?

[Anonymous No.18048180]

Getting fucked in the ass presumably
Read Kant.

[Anonymous No.18048211]

>neuroscientist and philosopher
a hack is what he is

[Anonymous No.18048219]

>>18048164
(((Sam Harris)))

[Anonymous No.18048224]

>neuroticist
>philosopher
Pick one, crayon colouring isn't science or philosophy

[Anonymous No.18048244]

>>18048219

[Anonymous No.18048407]

You don't

[Anonymous No.18048414]

>>18048164
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0007272

[Anonymous No.18049135]

we don't discuss this piece of shit in any capacity except to shit on him. start thusly: either find him and kill him or burn every book you might own of his and kill yourself
sage

[Anonymous No.18049615]

>>18048164
Read with The Culture of Critique by Kevin MacDonald or The Ordeal of Civility by John Murray Cuddihy to understand his ethnic animus against organised religion.

[Anonymous No.18049633]

>>18048164
Wikipedia.
Iti s also where you will stop, you fucking pseud.

[Anonymous No.18049649]

>>18048164
He's a pseudo-guru and that's how you should see his writing.

[Anonymous No.18049937]

>>18049649
>pseudo-guru
As opposed to an actual guru?

[Anonymous No.18049941]

>>18049937
Precisely.

[Anonymous No.18049951]

>>18049941
What the difference between a Guru and a pseudo-Guru?

[Anonymous No.18049972]

>>18048164
Why does he just ignore philosophical limitations and then act like he's so enlightened? He says science can help determine values (ok, I guess) but then completely glosses over how science itself is rooted in certain values. What the fuck.
>if we can all just agree x is good and y is bad
That's the problem Sam, we can't.

[Anonymous No.18049980]

>>18049972
>philosophical limitations
like what?

[Anonymous No.18049991]

>>18049951
A pseudo-Guru says he's not a Guru but acts like one unwittingly.

[Anonymous No.18049998]

>>18049615
>ethnic animus against organised religion
But he’s Jewish, and they originated the organised religions that half of the world’s population belong to today

[Anonymous No.18050025]

>>18049980
He just completely brushes off any semblance of philosophy and logic in his arguments. Watch his debate with WLC, literally 90% rhetoric. Kept on repeating ‘if god good why kid bone cancer’ ad nuaseam

[Anonymous No.18050046]

>>18049980
Munchhausen trilemma, Hume's law, etc. Basic issues in establishing groundwork. He just pretends we already all agree on what is true and good. Or pretends if you don't then you're a serial killer and cannibal. Which completely misses the issue of establishing why cannibals are bad. If it's supposed to taken for granted, or one is making an aesthetic argument, then fine, say that, but he doesn't.

[Anonymous No.18050047]

>>18050025
Doesn't philosophical limits also apply on the debate of God or no God?

[Anonymous No.18050079]

>>18050046
>This is what passes for a public intellectual in the 21st Century

[Anonymous No.18050094]

>>18048224
>neuroticist
Not a word dumbass

[Anonymous No.18050107]

>>18050079
>recognizes his fallacy in #5
>just tells you to fuck off

[Anonymous No.18050119]

>>18050047
Yes of course

[Anonymous No.18050142]

>>18050119
Then why people are still doing those debates?

[Anonymous No.18050179]

>>18050142
By philosophical limits do you mean logical fallacies and rules in debates, or things that are beyond our comprehension? You can argue for/against the existence of God without reaching any ‘philosophical limits’ I guess

[Anonymous No.18050215]

>>18050179
>or things that are beyond our comprehension?
This one.
Also the five tropes of Agrippa God or no God positions are easily refutable.

[Anonymous No.18050236]

>>18050094
Too fast for you anon? Can't comprehend even such elementary word shortenings?

[Anonymous No.18050242]

>>18048164
I'm not pretentious I swear, but the fact that people like Harris are considered philosophers today is nothing short of catastrophic.

[Anonymous No.18050264]

>>18050079
>>18050107
He unironically just waves the issue away. This is too stupid to even be funny.

[Anonymous No.18050275]

>>18050236
>literally not in the dictionary

[Anonymous No.18050282]

>>18050079
>>18050107
>>18050264
What is wrong with his pain/pleasure view of things?

[Anonymous No.18050298]

>>18050282
He doesn't actually solve the is-ought problem, he just proposes his own 'ought' as a non-sequitur. There may very well be no problem with his view, but what he says in those tweets is fucking embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.18050312]

>>18050298
So that gap can be only filled by the God?

[Anonymous No.18050321]

>>18050282
>What is wrong with his pain/pleasure view of things?
Briefly, it's repackaged utilitarianism with all that same issues and problems. But he just goes "nu uh". It's not revolutionary, it doesn't solve morality, it doesn't solve philosophy. We are still left with many philosophical problems. One big one being that even if we can agree some things truly suck and we ought avoid them, this does not mean we will not have non-trivial disagreements on other things. In which case we still don't know how to choose between them. We are back at square one.
>>18050312
No, it means he has not done what he purports to do.

[Anonymous No.18050462]

>>18048224
Hey anon, just letting you know that you're full of shit and you should be ashamed of your post.

[Anonymous No.18050602]

>>18050298
I don’t think he was even trying to solve it desu. Either that or he’s got the philosophical skills of a potato

[Anonymous No.18050681]

>>18048244
back

[Anonymous No.18050752]

>>18050079
He's thinking. At least he's thinking. Those are not by any means new or profound thoughts, very elementary. (So why is he famous?) But at least he tries.

[Anonymous No.18050757]

>>18048164
Sam Harris is a student of Richard Rorty. He might not be a neopragmatist, but he was influenced by him.
One striking thing to know about Rorty is how sloppy of a reader and a scholar he is. He consistently equivocates and slaps together dichotomous binaries in places he has no business. He makes no secrets to connect most of his desires in the world with his "Anti-Platonism" and anti-essentialism. And what is Rorty's great hit against this broad and ambiguous """Platonism?""" Near as I can tell, it just didn't work for him. Ergo, if it works for you, you must keep it and the rest of your religious affinities away from "public affairs," which incidentally do and must follow Rorty's philosophical inclination.
And once you realize this lethargic character of the modern American pragmatist tradition, you'll understand Sam Harris and the kind of philosophical background he has. Sam Harris has no interest in dialoguing with the actual intellectual tradition of those on the "other end" of his arguments. Which is why I think I've yet to see someone read in western philosophy to lightest degree to find his arguments particularly interesting.
The problem with him is he's naive, like most pragmatists. Naive enough to be arrogant, to think there's something revolutionary and unheard about themselves. Which is why he casts his kind of irreligiousness as "growing up."

[Anonymous No.18050950]

>>18050462
Hey anon,

I appreciate the feedback, and hope to hear more from you on why you think so. I can understand your point that I should be ashamed of the post, after all, I didn't fulfill the OPs probably sincere request for literature. However why my thoughtful post might be invalid I am unsure of and look forward to you illuminating.

Sincerely, kisses, anon

[Anonymous No.18050962]

>>18050275
>NOOOOOOOOOO you can't make linguistic innovations
kys retard

[Anonymous No.18050973]

I loved Zoolander and Night at the Museum.

[Anonymous No.18051496]

>>18050757
Excellent post

[Anonymous No.18051609]

>>18048180
Based

[Anonymous No.18051649]

>>18050973
kek

[Anonymous No.18051724]

>>18050079
He's right. This made me respect Sam Harris.

[Anonymous No.18051739]

>>18050079
his writing style is like a delusional 4chan tranny

[Anonymous No.18053121]

>>18051724
Kek