/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.18032687]

>"all that is solid melts into air"
>"the tradition of all dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brains of the living"
>"a specter is haunting Europe"
This guy is an amazing wordsmith. Why do we hate him again?

[Anonymous No.18032691]

Communism is LITERALLY bad

[Anonymous No.18032725]

>>18032687

Literally propaganda

[Anonymous No.18032737]

Too many redneck Americans on the internet

[Anonymous No.18032773]

stalinism poisoned the well

[Anonymous No.18032782]

>>18032687
Blame the mutt liberals

[Anonymous No.18032787]

>>18032687
All 19th century moderately well read gentlemen were like this.

rhetoric and annunciation was incredibly important.

[Anonymous No.18032792]

>>18032773
Stalinism cleansed the well.

[Anonymous No.18032803]

>>18032687
You mean his translator is an amazing wordsmith. Remember that according to autists on this board a translation is an entirely new creation with little relation to the source text.

[Anonymous No.18032843]

>>18032687
for his reductionism

[Anonymous No.18032851]

>>18032687
Sounds like a middle schooler

[Anonymous No.18032854]

>>18032843
nazism is intersectional

[Anonymous No.18032869]

>>18032773
If Stalin had personally cannibalized Kulak babies we'd be colonizing the sun by now

[Anonymous No.18032876]

>>18032869
Powerful stuff.

[Anonymous No.18032879]

>>18032869
by which you mean society would be too retarded to consider the facts and we would be shooting our best men into a ball of flaming gas.

Stalinists are worse than nazis.

[Anonymous No.18032886]

>>18032691
no it's just underdeveloped

[Anonymous No.18032915]

i think very few people who argue about marx actually understand his arguments and ideas

[Anonymous No.18032946]

he built on some fairly valid critique by putting forward some blatantly short sighted, non functional theories that people turned into their new bible and used it to destroy several nations and countless millions of lives

[Anonymous No.18032954]

>>18032876
Thank you.
>>18032879
Back to twitter you raging faggot.

[Anonymous No.18032959]

>>18032725
Yes? he was a political philospher, what would he write if not propaganda?

[Anonymous No.18032962]

>>18032854
how is it relevant

[Anonymous No.18032968]

>>18032687
Wordsmith? Are you fucking retarded? The second quote sounds good. The others are boring and bland.

[Anonymous No.18032969]

>>18032773
when will you people get it through your thick skulls that stalinism is inherent to communism, there is no getting around it, you dont get to just invoke supreme authority to the revolution in order to remake society ground up on a massive scale and get upset when the end result is a savage dictator. communism was NEVER going to end any other way

[Anonymous No.18032984]

>>18032869
that depends. do you mean Kulak as a colloquial term used in Russian society, or the legal term used by the Soviets?

[Anonymous No.18032985]

I wonder if arguing about communism every day, repeating the same points over and over again will ever get tiresome for people. My guess is no.

[Anonymous No.18032992]

What exactly does Marx actually advocate for? I know he expected the revolution to happen in an already industrialized nation like Germany rather than an agrarian backwater like Russia.

[Anonymous No.18032998]

>>18032968
>The others are boring and bland.

Oh, the irony.

[Anonymous No.18033006]

>>18032959

I meant, the reason people hate him, is literally because of propaganda meant to make people hate him. The dude wrote so much it really doesn't make any sense to boil it all down to any single judgement at all. He's not easy to get into in spite of how supposedly influential or relevant he is and there should be more, not less, effort to "popularize" him in the sense of making people understand it. But propaganda does get in the way for political philosophy, like you just said

[Anonymous No.18033016]

>>18032984
In the way the Soviets used the term, I didn't know it had another meaning, do tell

[Anonymous No.18033020]

>>18032954
>uses twitter as an insult
the newchans is so boring

[Anonymous No.18033032]

>>18033020
>this offhand remark has allowed me to understand a great deal about your character, how quaint
Yeah yeah back to twitter you go

[Anonymous No.18033036]

>>18032992
his essential argument was that capitalism was necessary, but ultimately temporary mode of production, since he believed the inherent contradictions in capitalism woudl eventually doom it to cave in on itself. he imagined a transition to a method of ownership and production where "the workers" were in charge and produced according to the needs of the population rather than the profit motives of capital holders.

[Anonymous No.18033052]

>>18032886
underdeveloped things that undermine themselves during development are bad.

[Anonymous No.18033073]

Es geht um die Welt ein Geflüster...
Arbeiter, hörst du es nicht?

[Anonymous No.18033090]

>>18033016
it doesnt have another meaning lmao

[Anonymous No.18033095]

>>18032687
Aesthetically, Communism attracts one because of its daemonic celebrations, its spine-tingling justifications. Marx himself characterised his apostatisation as a will to destroy, to "reign over Heaven and Earth".

Never mind its logical inconsistencies and failures, it attracts people because it is a world-orientation denying a present world-orientation.

[Anonymous No.18033107]

>>18032687
Imagine thinking this qualifies as "amazing wordsmithing." Are you 14 and this is your first book or what?

[Anonymous No.18033110]

>>18032687
Fellow /leftypol/sters, is this the raid thread today?

[Anonymous No.18033111]

>>18033073
Mein deutche ist nicht ser gut. Du bist sprechen sei english?

[Anonymous No.18033116]

>>18033090
You said there was a way it was used colloquially in Russian society so I thought that it might be a different way of using the term

[Anonymous No.18033130]

>>18033110
Yes, now shut up.

[Anonymous No.18033136]

>>18033016
The Soviets used the word Kulak to mean pretty much the middle class of peasantry and above, not just the richer ones. For example, if you own a cow, a butter churn, a windmill, or any mechanical device for agricultural production, then you're a Kulak. If you sell merchandise, then you're a Kulak. You didn't even have to employ anyone to become a Kulak, just run a successful farm and invest in its deveopment.
Originally the word Kulak meant a wealthy, greedy, fat, but enterprising faggot, who got his wealth through seemingly unfair means, like buying the land off his poorer neighbours, or moneylending, and often employed his now landless neighbours on his fields.

[Anonymous No.18033177]

>>18032946
Isn't that Hayek?

[Anonymous No.18033184]

>>18033136
Well I'd say the meanings overlap, even if they are different

[Anonymous No.18033203]

>>18033110
/lit/ is the only board that has leftists because rightoids can't read

[Anonymous No.18033213]

>>18033203
Most of /lit/ is right-wing.

[Anonymous No.18033235]

>>18033203
Yikers.

[Anonymous No.18033245]

>>18033203
/fa/ and /mu/ have some leftists
>>18033213
true

[Anonymous No.18033262]

>>18033203
Well obviously they can't read comrade, only marxpilled free-thinking individuals are capable of reading toilet paper.

[Anonymous No.18033282]

>>18033245
/mu/ is probably one of the most leftist boards because every other normie hipster visits the board to find music they can impress their friends with

[Anonymous No.18033310]

>>18033282
>every other normie hipster visits the board to find music they can impress their friends with
seeth rightoid

[Anonymous No.18033392]

>>18033310
its just a fact bro, most my peers are in the local music scene and the only time ive ever heard 4chan mentioned irl is hipsters talking about /mu/, and while i dont browse there much, it really does show

[Anonymous No.18033428]

>>18032687
Imagine if you've never heard any of these phrases, imagine if you half-heard some chudjak incarnate say it - I imagine they wouldn't quite hit the same, if anything, they'd just come off as edgy.

In other words, stop worshipping icons and idols and start thinking for yourself.

[Anonymous No.18033450]

>>18032687
garbage wordsmith, literally sound like sentences from Eragon

[Anonymous No.18033479]

>>18033428
>start thinking for yourself
you mean be an empty inconsistent contrarian

[Anonymous No.18033486]

>>18033450
how do you know what sentences from Eragon sound like?

[Anonymous No.18033512]

>>18032687
>Why do we hate him again?
because decades of red scare propaganda did their job really fucking well.
99% of people criticising marx on here have absolutely no clue what he was about other than what mainstream media and /pol/ has told them, which obviously isnt accurate.

[Anonymous No.18033522]

>>18032687
I'm a communist and I actually don't like Marx and Engle's flowery language. Its good for highly literate people but for understanding it its now. I think the bulk of political or philosophical literature should be straight to the point and at a 4th grade reading level so anyone can understand it.

[Anonymous No.18033534]

>>18033512
Do these types of replies come from bots? It's like a script detecting certain phrases and always responding with mildly varied forms of the same sentences every time.

[Anonymous No.18033549]

>>18033073
absolute kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYJmGaBMQJ8
>>18033203
this. whenever i peek into rightoid threads they are discussing schizo conspiracies about the jews and trannies that live rent free in their heads, while lefties are discussing and quoting actual literature. (mostly)

[Anonymous No.18033580]

>>18033203

[Anonymous No.18033587]

>>18033549
it do be like that tho

[Anonymous No.18033589]

>>18033534
it needs to be repeated until at least one of you faggots picks up a book and reads it
and are we just gonna ignore the actual botting and astroturfing on this website? im just waiting for the "why do all leftists hate white people?" reply

[Anonymous No.18033610]

>>18033587
this is a really shit meme tho. didnt even take me 10 minutes to read it all, that cant be a genuine leftist meme.

[Anonymous No.18033631]

Who /marxist fascist/ here?

[Anonymous No.18033645]

>>18032773
Stalinism is literally the only best kind

[Anonymous No.18033650]

>>18032792
Based

[Anonymous No.18033654]

>>18033631
literally self-contradicting

[Anonymous No.18033661]

>>18033310
Memes are supposed to be short and funny

[Anonymous No.18033739]

>>18033549
I get all pumped up listening to this. Sounds like some communist dark souls boss theme

[Anonymous No.18033759]

>mfw asking leftist friends how they feel about gun control

COMRADES, THE REVOLUTION IS HERE! STEP 1: WE MUST GIVE OUR GUNS TO BIDEN! STEP 2: REVOLUTION!

[Anonymous No.18033781]

>>18032946
>people turned into their new bible and used it to destroy several nations and countless millions of lives
This is a thread about Marx, not Martin Luther

[Anonymous No.18033798]

>>18033759
Leftists are always disappointing.

[Anonymous No.18033824]

>>18033654
no, since fascism is predicated on natural hierarchies and not arbitrary relations that serve blind system

[Anonymous No.18033878]

>>18033052
agreed

[Anonymous No.18033882]

>>18032691
It's literally how your pre-neolithic revolution ancestors lived.
Maybe you should go back in time, and say this to their faces, see how they react? Say them that they are bad for sharing their hunt. They would crack your face open with a stone axe.

[Anonymous No.18033902]

>>18033824
>predicated on natural hierarchies
fallacious appeals to nature are incompatible with marxism, anon. you proved your own point.
>>18033759
please learn the difference between leftism and liberalism, its honestly painful to keep reading this shit over and over again.
"Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary" - carl marks

[Anonymous No.18033907]

>>18033902
>you proved your own point
*proved my point

[Anonymous No.18033928]

>>18033882
marx would laugh at you for this
marxism only resembles caveman tribalism at the most superficial of levels

[Anonymous No.18033947]

>>18033587
>>18033610

[Anonymous No.18033950]

Inequality is the very nature of things

[Anonymous No.18033953]

>>18033902
>please learn the difference between leftism and liberalism, its honestly painful to keep reading this shit over and over again.
Who'd you vote for, comrade?

[Anonymous No.18033958]

>>18033902
please learn the difference between liberalism and american 'liberalism'

[Anonymous No.18033964]

>>18033950
In societies where everyone believes they're equal, the inevitable superiority of a few makes the rest feel like failures.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXAnVJmQeqw

[Anonymous No.18033965]

>>18033882
Those neolithic chuds spoiled everything

[Anonymous No.18033967]

>>18032687
I used to write political essays for my AP US History class with these kinds of bombastic metaphors. Aced it everytime and even *actually* got an ovation by the class for it.
>and then everybody clapped
Actually happened to me. It's really that easy to drive up political fervor. Just write in bombastic, colorful metaphors that confirms the biases of the audience.

[Anonymous No.18033987]

How embarrassing . . .

[Anonymous No.18034003]

>>18033759
>Amerimutts are retarded
What else is new under the sun?

[Anonymous No.18034062]

>>18034003
only in america would a "leftist" support biden

[Anonymous No.18034090]

>>18032803
Fuck off Roland Barthes.

[Anonymous No.18034131]

>>18033953
luckily im not american kek, my country has a communist party
>>18033958
american "liberalism" is a part of Liberalism, just a distinction from the also Liberal "conservatives"

[Anonymous No.18034162]

>>18032687
>Changes Marx from an idealist into a materialist by making him seethe
Psssh, nothin personnel, spook.

[Anonymous No.18034194]

>>18033203
What does this post even say

[Anonymous No.18034226]

>>18033107
go on then, share something better you 'dirty jew of negro blood'

[Anonymous No.18034240]

>>18034194
he's implying rightoids dont read and thus have no reason to visit the literature board of 4chan
how you couldnt figure that out leads me to believe you cant read

[Anonymous No.18034241]

le carl markses cant deal with the global burgerezie

[Anonymous No.18034249]

>>18034240
If rightoids can't read, leftards literally have no irony.

[Anonymous No.18034263]

>>18034249
how ironic

[Anonymous No.18034273]

[Anonymous No.18034283]

>>18034240
I cant read thid shit

[Anonymous No.18034294]

>>18032687
The personal ethos of the followers of Marx mirror the personal ethos of Marx. There is no divesting the sweet words on the page from the cold reality of the street.

[Anonymous No.18034322]

>>18033177
Yes it is.

[DIAPER SMELLER No.18034325]

>>18033549
>whenever i peek into rightoid threads they are discussing schizo conspiracies
Based
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1617608561669.webm

>>18032687
Now let me explain to you why this thread is trash and doesn't belong here
This thread isn't discussing literature,it's just
>marx good
>why don't you all love him?
???
All the leftypol redditors involved need to go back to watching youtube/twitch streamers (or something else your brain can handle without overheating)
These threads can only create /b/ tier political discussion(which doesn't belong here either) :
>>18032691
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>>18033310
>seeth
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[Anonymous No.18034330]

>>18033522
That's the Manifesto. Nobody with a 5th grade level of reading comprehension ought to read Das Kapital anyway.

[Anonymous No.18034381]

Why are modern marxists so humorless? Marx was crackin mad jokes

[Anonymous No.18034408]

>>18034325
cope and seethe

[Anonymous No.18034609]

>>18033549
>... ist der Krieg gegen dich, .... PROLET!
staunch national socialist racist anti feminist anti communist etc. etc. but that song is a fucking banger.

[Anonymous No.18034635]

>>18034325
Consume your Chlorpromazine.

[Anonymous No.18034756]

>>18034131
Then why don't you just tell us what country you're from? I want to see what disagreements are present, because our American Communist Party exists solely as a Soviet Realism film club.

[Anonymous No.18035058]

>>18033882
Human evolution involved men killing the babies of other men and raping women.
That's communism?

[Anonymous No.18035081]

>>18032687
>>"all that is solid melts into air"
Amazing epoch-defining line.
>>"the tradition of all dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brains of the living"
Too wordy, morbid, romantic.
>>"a specter is haunting Europe"
Pretty good, but lends itself too well to formularity and cliche.

[Anonymous No.18035626]

>>18033882
>Maybe you should go back in time, and say this to their faces, see how they react? Say them that they are bad for sharing their hunt. They would crack your face open with a stone axe.
you have no understanding of anthropology or history.