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Why do you hate him /lit/?

>> No.18031686

>>18031653
I don't.
I hate you.

>> No.18031687

>>18031653
Anime in written form, which is why so many people love it. An uncomplicated, straightforward style (an amalgamation of worst of Orwell and Hemingway), fast-moving plots ripped straight from the screenplays of summer blockbusters, shallow wisecracking characters perfect for turning into funko pops or slapping onto merchandise, a sterile scientific approach to magic that satisfies the autist STEMtards, and the ability to pump out these massive doorstoppers at an amazing rate compared to his contemporaries.

>> No.18031700

>>18031687
That's reasonable.

>> No.18031719

>>18031687
Just the thought of ‘the science of magic’ infuriates me honestly. How can people be so dull, so literarily flat?!

>> No.18031734

>>18031719
>What Are Sanderson’s Laws Of Magic?
>Sanderson’s First Law of Magics: An author’s ability to solve conflict with magic is DIRECTLY PROPORTIONAL to how well the reader understands said magic.
>Sanderson’s Second Law can be written very simply. It goes like this: Limitations > Powers
(Or, if you want to write it in clever electrical notation, you could say it this way: Ω > |
though that would probably drive a scientist crazy.)
>The third law is as follows: Expand what you already have before you add something new.

>> No.18031744

>>18031734
is it that bad if he wants his magic to have clear rules and limits?

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>>18031653
>>18031687

>> No.18031760

>>18031653
I don't like his writing much, but he seems like a cool guy, very down to earth and humble compared to that faggot Rothfuss

>>18031687
go to bed Nabby

>> No.18031762

He is a successful, published author and I am not.

>> No.18031771

>>18031653
Reminder that "Brando Sando" is fat.

>> No.18031778

>>18031653
Brown eyes

>> No.18031781

>>18031762
Loathsome post,
anon
You may sneed
at reddisneed
Delightfully

>> No.18031883

He has a formula that makes him a ton of cash

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This board hates Mormon authors. See pic rel for example.

>> No.18032015

>>18031744
What's the point then? It's like someone wants to write sci-fi but in quasi European middle ages setting.

I do think the author should know the rules of their world but not keeping magic mysterious for the reader just takes away from it.

>> No.18032080

>>18032015
if a magic system is vague, i start asking questions. call me autistic, but it can take me out of a story if i start asking myself "couldn't he have just done this and won? why didn't he do that other thing?". i guess it's not mutually exclusive, but usually i find it one way or the other

>> No.18032085

>>18031687
>>18031734
Honestly he does have a bit of a point.
It becomes less interesting to read a magical character if *anything* can happen.
That doesn't mean magic has to be described in perfect mathematical formulas, just that if there are certain things you know a character can't do, overcoming obstacles becomes more interesting.

>> No.18032087

Mistborn is pretty good. Haven't read the others. Nobody here hates him except for the reddit migrants who think people here are all smug about fucking words like they are

>> No.18032105

>>18031687
Man read the book before you critique it. It's nothing like Orwell or Hemingway, he writes in the most pulpy style - image adjective image repeat. But that does not mean it's bad, guy writes satisfying really fun to read stories for children.

>> No.18032138

I hate him because his books are soulless and mass produced genre trash. There is no point from them, you do not gain anything from them, they are not art. Reading Sanderson is like playing a vibeogame or watching abengers, it’s a waste of time and life, it’s worthless consumerism. Also his books look so fucking retarded, the covers remind me of YA shit I read in middle school, embarrassing for an adult to like any of it.

>> No.18032141

>>18032080
>"couldn't he have just done this and won? why didn't he do that other thing?
Couldn't a decent writer still answer these without giving you the guide book? The fact that it's more challenging seems another point against the easy mode of "well, obviously he couldn't blast the door, he only has +20 destruction and couldn't get the +5 buff".

Besides, even if you know all the details, if the problem is complex enough, the characters are bound to make decisions that don't seem optimal.
>>18032085
Not even a fan of him but didn't Tolkien solved that pretty well? It seemed obvious from the start that having a wizard on the team, didn't mean they could do some crazy thing. Even the resurrection felt consistent with the tone of the world.

>> No.18032167

>>18031687
Is it though? I tried to go through the free pages of Misborn and it didn't have the spark anime usually has but felt more like a Marvel work, when everything is calculated for a Burger audience.

>> No.18032358

Never read him. I can judge a book by its cover, and I judge him to write thick fantasy books pandering to the comic/superhero movie audience.

I did watch some of his lectures on youtube. He knows his craft, which is how to write a book that sells, however vapid it is.

>> No.18032639

>>18031653
I think he is improving, bros. Compare e.g. The Way of Kings to some of his earlier works and you will see.

>> No.18032680

I absolutely love Brandon Sanderson and don't know shit about anime, but go ahead, paint those broad strokes. Sounds like an elitist needs his validation to me.

>> No.18032694

>>18032087
What are you talking about? Reddit loves Sanderson. Only on 4chan have I ever seen anything bad about him.

>> No.18032727

>>18032680
>Sounds like an elitist needs his validation to me.
Welcome on 4chains.

>> No.18032770

>>18031653
Everyone should at least read his “emperors soul” as it gives a clear picture of what he’s capable of. I recently watched his lecture series that he out on YouTube and got a lot of out of it. He’s a good guy and I enjoy his books for the most part.

>> No.18032820

>>18032087
Reddit wants him to finish Asoiaf

>> No.18032845

>>18032820
Thanks to D&D the bar is so low, whatever he does will likely be much better.

>> No.18032880

>>18031653
I don't like downies

>> No.18032906

>>18031653
I don’t hate him. Seems like a nice guy and I guess decent lecturer but he’s a self proclaimed genre fiction writer and he’s not for me.

>> No.18033338

>>18031653
I don't hate him but he seems to be a favorite for videogame nerds which makes me suspicious.

>> No.18033387

I read a page of his writing.

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>>18033387

>> No.18033511

>>18033406
Bro, what the fuck?

>> No.18033619

>>18033406
So that's how he manages to shit out books at his speed.

>> No.18033651

>>18031653
He has everything /lit/ wants.

>> No.18033687

>>18031687
>Anime in written form
This seems to be the most common consensus. I also described it in these exact words when I was recommending it to a kid. As >>18032105 this anon has said, he writes stories that are easy to digest and provide a fun premise. It's not necessarily bad but it's not good either. I recognize and agree with most of your points. I think this is also the reason why Reddit absolutely adores this guy.

>> No.18033723

>>18033511
>>18033619
What's so bad about it?

>> No.18033743

>>18033723
"Bad" seems harsh, it's just feels lifeless and flat. Compared to this even Rowling looks like a master of the craft. And the dialogue could come from some Marvel slock.

>> No.18033755

>>18033723
I dunno if I'd call it bad, but it's very middling. It's like he hasn't stopped to put care into thinking about how he'll narrate, he just wants to get the information out there. Nothing's rolling my eyes but it doesn't make me want to sit down and read a thousand pages of it.

>> No.18034786

>>18031653
>fat

>> No.18034890

>>18031653
he's fat and ugly.

i don't know about his books.

>> No.18034898

>>18032105
>guy writes satisfying really fun to read stories for children.
I somehow doubt his audience is children.

>> No.18035043

>>18031653
What gets to people about sanberblob is that he embodies the dry sexless Redditor art-as-a-science formulae vibe. Armies of beta readers and editors, legions of uncritical fans all working in unison to make *the thing we like but more*. An average author elevated far above what a fairer world would allow and an avatar of incurious geek culture. His work represents a lot of what is alienating and depressing about modernity but is too vast and safe to ever spark real flames of anger so most people are left with a vague hard to place dislike of him. Also he’s fat.

>> No.18035312

>>18035043
I think that there are lots of very good writers who treat it as a science more than an art. The difference is that his writing sucks to read. Also, he's fat.

>> No.18035330

>>18032080
>call me autistic, but it can take me out of a story if i start asking myself "couldn't he have just done this and won? why didn't he do that other thing?".
I wonder how many people would say this while reading about your real life.

>> No.18035340

>>18031687
Rent free

>> No.18035367

>>18035330
Oh my.

>> No.18035566

It's impossible for me to describe how flat his prose is. It's the most uninsipiring thing ever. It's like a written version of Iowa.

>> No.18035575

>>18035566
It's almost impressive in HOW flat it is though. Think even writing by AI I saw had more personality. Shit, even a chatbot like Tay did.

>> No.18035627

>>18035312
Perhaps it’s not inherently bad to write in that manner but it’s a common feature of souless pulpy onions-fantasy and Sanderson is such a perfect avatar of that ill. Also, he’s fat.

>> No.18035658

>>18035627
Come to think of, what writer who treats it as a science instead of art isn't fat?

>> No.18036338

>>18031687
What anime would you say is most comparable to Sanderson's writing? Spirited Away? Naruto? Neon Genesis Evangelion?

>> No.18036458

>>18036338
The one anime stereotype he saw a meme of

>> No.18036554

>>18032138
imagine getting the butt flustered over people liking stuff you don't like.

>> No.18036964

>>18036458
Is Stormlight Archive a Jojo reference?

>> No.18037011

>>18031687
>fast-moving plots
It took 800 pages for this retard in the first book to realize he had magic powers, and that was 200 pages after he returns from the dead.

>> No.18037987

>>18031687
filtered.

>> No.18039069

>>18031653
Because he is a fatass

>> No.18039092

>>18031653
I don't like that he's a Mormon and I don't like the way he looks. This >>18031756
photo in particular really pisses me off.

>> No.18039542

>>18031734
I feel like he looked at Asimov's laws, and said to himself 'I can do that, but fantasy' and went from there, not realising that Asimov's laws had an actual purpose and point behind them.