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All of our contemporary and classical philosophers seem to go into detail about their disdain of women. Some more than others, yet all the same they feel the need to tear them down. For what purpose? What do they gain doing this? Philosophers, especially our most recognizable ones, are indeed men. Yet that does not mean a woman cannot be brought up to intellect or raise above the common man. I believe in recent years you can see that woman can, in fact, rise above their counterparts. Yet all the same, these philosophers and many of our modern thinkers/anons/(You)s make it seem like women are unable to grasp such success, when that is not the case.

>> No.18021173

Women are basically little poindexter mommy's boy faggots who think they're cool and don't know you could beat the fuck out of them at any moment, except they're hot and everyone gives them a free pass. Imagine some smarmy little bitch talking about how his mom told him he's cool and he's good at philosophy and you should tell him he's brave and awesome and give him some free money. Imagine how badly you want to beat the fuck out of this kid. Now add some tits to him and he's surrounded by a bunch of chads who will arrest you and send you to jail if you beat his ass. Does that make you like him any more? No. I may have to obey the chad slaves and not beat women but I sure as fuck am not going to pretend they're not gay little fags I hate.

>> No.18021183

I think, therefore I hate women

>> No.18021200

>>18021165
Probably because they don't get any pussy, like>>18021173

But I have to say that although women can achieve great things, they are very different from us men, personality wise.
Because of this I can understand someone disliking women in general; but the truth is we complement each other, and men are on occasions being more childish by not accepting and working around women's behaviour.

>> No.18021202

It’s a result of patriarchy
The transition to agriculture gave notion to private property, and the need for men to own things, such as land, food, or women. Philosophers had to include women in their conception of society, but still justify this subordination. Hence the misogyny

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>>18021200
>>18021202

>> No.18021224

>>18021165
Philosophers simply observe the natural limitations of the sex, which all subsequent observation has confirmed. Sure, in some cases resentment and unjustified misogyny is probably a factor, but I wouldn't say that this is the case generally.

>> No.18021270

>>18021165
Many of them had limited knowledge of women. So when the women go into the red tents to have a period vacation, they probably make theories about things to make their own answers.

>> No.18021284

>>18021165
>For what purpose?
the pursuit of truth?

>> No.18021314
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Only posting as an example of how men should not be

In the beginning God made woman's mind apart from man's.11 One made He of a bristly Sow; all that is in her house lies disorderly, defiled with dirt, and rolling upon the floor, and she groweth fat a-sitting among the middens in garments as unwashed as herself. Another did God make of a knavish Vixen, a woman knowing in all things, who taketh note of all, be it bad or good; for the bad often calleth she good and the good bad; and she hath now this mood and now that. Another of a Bitch, a busybody12 like her mother, one that would fain hear all, know all, and peering and prying everywhere barketh e'en though she see nothing; a man cannot check her with threats, no, not if in anger he dash her teeth out with a stone, nor yet though he speak gently with her, even though she be sitting among strangers —she must needs keep up her idle baying. Another the Olympians fashioned of Earth, and gave to her husband all wanting in wits; such a woman knoweth neither evil nor good; her only art is to eat; and never though God give a bad winter draweth she her stool nigher the fire for the cold. Another of the Sea, whose thoughts are in two minds; one day she laughs and is gay —a stranger seeing her within will praise her, saying ‘There's no better wife in all the world, nay, nor comelier’; the next she is intolerable to behold or draw nigh to, for then she rageth unapproachably, like a bitch with young; implacable and nasty is she to all, alike foe and friend. Even as the sea in summertime often will stand calm and harmless, to the great joy of the mariners, yet often will rage and toss with roaring waves, most like unto it is such a woman in disposition, nor hath the ocean a nature of other sort than hers.13 Another's made of a stubborn14 and belaboured She-Ass; everything she doeth is hardly done, of necessity and after threats, and then 'tis left unfinished; meanwhile eateth she day in day out, in bower and in hall, and all men alike are welcome to her bed. Another of a Cat, a woeful and miserable sort; for in her there's nought of fair or lovely or pleasant or desirable; she is wood15 for a love-mate, and yet when she hath him turneth his stomach; she doeth her neighbours much harm underhand, and often eateth up unaccepted offerings.16 Another17 is the child of a dainty long-maned Mare; she refuseth menial tasks and toil; she'll neither set hand to mill nor take up sieve, nor cast forth the muck, nor, for that she shunneth the soot, will she sit beside the oven. She taketh a mate only of necessity. Every day will she wash herself twice, or even thrice, and anointeth her with unguents. She ever weareth her hair deep-combed and wreathed with flowers. Such a wife may be a fair sight for other men, but she's an ill to her husband if he be not a despot or a king, such as take pride in adornments like to her.

>> No.18021318

>>18021314
Another cometh of an Ape; she is the greatest ill of all Zeus giveth man. Foul of face, such a woman maketh laughter for all men as she goeth through the town; short in neck, she moveth hardly, hipless, leanshanked —alas for the wretched man that claspeth such a mischief! Like an ape she knoweth all arts and wiles, nor recketh of men's laughter. Neither will she do a man any kindness; all her care, all her considering, is how she shall do the greatest ill she may. Another of a Bee; and happy he that getteth her. On her alone alighteth there no blame, and life doth flourish and increase because of her; loving and loved groweth she old with her husband, the mother of a fair and name-honoured progeny; she is pre-eminent among all the women, and a divine grace pervadeth her; neither taketh she delight in sitting among women where they tell tales of venery. Such wives are the best and wisest that Zeus bestoweth upon men; these other kinds, thanks unto Him, both are and will ever be a mischief in the world. For this is the greatest ill that Zeus hath made, women. Even though they may seem to advantage us, a wife is more than all else a mischief to him that possesseth her; for whoso dwelleth with a woman, he never passeth a whole day glad, nor quickly shall he thrust out of doors Hunger the hated housefellow and hostile deity. But when a man thinketh withindoors to be gladdest at heart by grace of God or favour of man, then of all times will she find cause for blame and gird herself for battle. For where a woman is, they e'en cannot receive a stranger heartily. And she that most seemeth to be discreet, she is all the time doing the greatest harm; her husband is all agape for her, but the neighbours rejoice that yet another is deceived. And no man but will praise his own wife when he speaketh of her,18 and blame another's, yet we cannot see19 that we be all alike. Aye, this is the greatest ill that Zeus hath made, this hath he put about us as the bondage of a fetter irrefragable, ever since Death received them that went a-warring for a woman.20

>> No.18021362

>>18021314
>Another's made of a stubborn14 and belaboured She-Ass; everything she doeth is hardly done, of necessity and after threats, and then 'tis left unfinished; meanwhile eateth she day in day out, in bower and in hall, and all men alike are welcome to her bed.

>> No.18021372

>>18021318
>Another cometh of an Ape; she is the greatest ill of all Zeus giveth man. Foul of face, such a woman maketh laughter for all men as she goeth through the town; short in neck, she moveth hardly, hipless, leanshanked —alas for the wretched man that claspeth such a mischief! Like an ape she knoweth all arts and wiles, nor recketh of men's laughter. Neither will she do a man any kindness; all her care, all her considering, is how she shall do the greatest ill she may.
Man must monke.
Woman must not monke.

>> No.18021384

>>18021173
came here for this

>> No.18021390

Girls want to be gazed at by handsome men, which would appear to be great entertainers ,especially sexually, and free of charge since girls want men to pay for the seduction. for instance a girl refuses to pay or work for sex. It's always the man who must pay and amuse the girl . it's the competition. Women do not compete for men


Now it turns out 99% of men are not handsome and worse, women hate when repulsive men even think of having a chance with them.

So the problem for a girl is really her own making: a girl lives a lavish life from the male competition for her, and from this male despair of winning the competition, as usual, some men don't take well the defeat and some men cheat, some men go over the line.

ALL of this is due to the men putting women and their conception at the center of their life.
Men put women on a pedestal only because women benefit from this, women leech off men.

This parasitic life of the female works well on a global scale, but there will always be fuck ups.
This is the price to pay by women-as-a-whole.

Even the life of a woman is not entirely free of charge and the price is just having to deal with the few mean who overstep their bounds.

Although to be fair, when a woman FEELS (and it's all what is relevant) harassed, she starts crying and due to the competitive nature of the female-male relation, the males orbiting her will start defending her free of charge (as usual, men don't have the luxury to make women pay for the male service) and trying to solve her problems.

Males actually love to be disposable. The whole drive of a male is to be acknowledged as being useful. Men are the proletariat.

This is why women are capitalistic and men are communist.

>> No.18021401

Few them were really resentful of women, like Schopenhauer was. Most simply acknowledged differences between the sexes and their function in life and that's enough to get them labeled as misogynist by today's woketards.

>> No.18021404

>>18021221
Sucks to know I'm going to be a dirty old man hitting on the twenty-something waitress.

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>>18021404
there's no other option unless you like pic related

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>>18021200
There are plenty of philosophers, for example Schopenhauer, that got a lot of women and still disdained them. Also, the greatest women-haters are not permaincels and virgins, but men that have a lot of experience with women.

Also, read Weiningers Sex and Character you faggots.

>> No.18021438

>>18021421
I long for the days when women were illiterate

>> No.18021446

>>18021421
Women should not be allowed the privilege of being taught to read.

>> No.18021447

>>18021173
this
>>18021200
post tits

>> No.18021460

>>18021202
>It’s a result of patriarchy
nah women are just trash

>> No.18021479

>>18021202
Patriarchy is the natural order of things

>> No.18021545
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18021545

Are you strong enough to handle the truth, Anon?

>> No.18021716

>>18021173
based beyond comprenhension

>> No.18021944

>>18021545
What a long way to say "my mother didn't love me and no women will fuck me"

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>>18021944

>> No.18021986

>>18021957
applies to >>18021200 as well

>> No.18022045

no contemporary philosopher really hates women

it was an overflow of paganism which deluded even saints through false science. St. Thomas sounds misogynistic mainly cause he was getting bad science (in good faith) from Aristotle.

The truth is more banal. Women are meant to submit to men in marriage, but not due to inherent inferiority. She is as perfect a servant as man is a master. But this is restricted to marriage; man's lust made him hurl this over the whole world inappropriately

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>>18021173
fpbp
>>18021202
There is no civilization without pathiarchy.

>> No.18022093

>>18021165
>Yet that does not mean a woman cannot be brought up to intellect or raise above the common man
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT

>> No.18022101

>>18022045
Shut up christcuck

>> No.18022277

>>18022101
looks like I gotcha

>> No.18022988

>>18021183
Holy based

>> No.18023026

>>18022045
I hate women and I'm a contemporary philosopher

>> No.18023199

>>18022093
the average woman is smarter than the average man

>> No.18023242

>>18021165
What zero pussy does to a mf, spread out across thousands of years and hundreds of schools of thought

>> No.18023243
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>>18023199
cool, but women shouldn't leave their houses

>> No.18023252
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18023252

>>18023242
lol cry more, slave of sex

>> No.18023281

>>18023243
>gets btfoed
>moves goalposts

ahh another day another w

>> No.18023295

>>18023252
Actually I'm laughing

>> No.18023303

>>18023281
averages don't make a society

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18023307

>>18023242
Holes and cucks will never understand the male relationship with sexual intercourse
also see >>18021545

>> No.18023326

>>18023303
then why should the average male be allowed to leave the house?

your only conceivable answer lies outside of intelligence alone and therefore your dumb and btfo'd next anon pls

>> No.18023332

>>18023307
Ah yes the exalted position of desperately wanting something while also hating it, hating yourself for wanting it, and pretending you don't want it as a performative display of "virtue"

>> No.18023370

>>18023332
>Ohhh Ciceron surely didn't get enough action, who hurt you, he must've hated himself because he wanted to bang some slave girl
Femoid hands typed this. Literal brainlet take.

It's realization of the baseness of the act itself, understanding that the urge to want it is normal, but having the rational mind of realizing what it really is you're doing and what it's worth. I can have sex, I can feel the urge to have sex, I can enjoy sex and I can still realize that it is the animal in me engaging in it, and that it is fundamentally opposed to virtue. Also, in the sense of ancient wisdom, having the right measure in such things and keeping them in line with what their meant to achieve: procreation and bonding, not mindless bodycounts which our time glorifies. Not that you would understand.

>> No.18023381

>>18023326
>then why should the average male be allowed to leave the house?
to sustain their families

>> No.18023407

>>18023381
but women are smarter so they should be the ones leaving the house. Men should be raising the children

>> No.18023451

>>18023407
The last 100 years or so of historical progress cannot deny 100,000+ years of evolutionary and biological history. I highly doubt that women are more intelligent, since they would have played a much more prominent role if that was a case anyway, in the sense of inventions and art. But even if it be so, you should realize that for the vast amount of human history men were hunting, waging war, protecting their families, trading in far away lands, building cities and states while women were giving birth, raising children and taking care of the household. Even if we ignore the fact that women are literally designed to give birth, we cannot ignore the fact that they have been evolutionary perfected for all the roles I'm talking about through millenia. This cannot be denied with 50 years of feminist policies and propaganda. It is literal waste to let a women do anything that a man can do, even if she rarely does better than a man, because a man can never replace childbirth and the unique relationship that a mother has with her newborn. Everything else is cope, so blame evolution, biology, whatever, but women are most useful in the role that they have been designed for and that they've engaged in through most of history, so the rational thing is to keep them at home and let them do what they're best at and not """train""" them or shoehorn positions so they might fit into them.

>> No.18023452

>>18021165
>All of our contemporary and classical philosophers seem to go into detail about their disdain of women.

When you fail at all normal human endeavors, you turn to philosophy. It's such a self-suck hobby, with dumb shit like Plato's cave being the most eye-rolling self-serving self-sucks out there.

>> No.18023460

>>18023243
I guess we're just going to ignore all the stupid guys on the left, eh?

>> No.18023469

if I had to hazard a guess it would be that when you spend most of your time talking to other men and reading you're bound to develop some bad habits

>> No.18023474

>>18023452
>Be ancient philosophy in prescientific times
>Try to grasp the nature of reality
>Try to figure out how to live properly, how to be a better man
>Try to figure out a way to achieve a better society
>In the process lay the foundation for the greatest civilizations and Western thought
>Some faggot on a mongolian basket weaving board calls you a stupid faggot a few thousand years later
Truly, there are many NPC takes on reality, but yours has to be the worst one, not only is it factually incorrect, but absolutely retarded. Let me guess, you fucking love science, don't you?

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>>18023474
reminds me of this

>> No.18023589

>>18023460
men can just use thier sheer strengh if they aren't intelligent

>> No.18023967

Anyone who has thought at little about it hs clearly seen the inhuman, alien nature of the w*man.

>> No.18024124

>>18021165
Women are weak and dumb. That's why they need this feminist clownworld to get into power.

>> No.18024285

>>18021165
It's because of the raising of female children. Speculation isn't encouraged, girls are micromanaged by their mothers (much more than boys) and constantly compared to boys. They end up acutely wanting to please their environment and follow the established goals of society.

Now, philosophers are often at odds with society which has, since ancient times, held lower and lower opinions of philosophers and philosophy and vice versa. It's almost philosophical misandry (with some exceptions), because women, because of their upbringing, are often at odds with philsophy (and that isn't something exclusive to women, artists were like that until romanticism for example).

Some philosophers saw the role of upbringing, some didn't. I don't have any official data, I don't even know how someone would, no one would finance that longitudinal research and it would have to last for a long, long time. But I am almost 100% positive that with different upbringing, there would be more women in philosophy. We'll see with the next generation, there are a lot of women studying philosophy now, but without the change in upbringing. It will be interesting to see the clash between primary, familiar, and secondary, professional/philosophical socialization, although the state of the academia is pretty msierable so I wouldn't hold my breath for huge changes. But small changes in the right direction are definitely feasible.

>> No.18024318

>>18021421
Courtney got it right (at least on the surface level) up until the end when she shat the bed. The girl who said it was writen 600 years ago is a lost cause, though.

>> No.18024336

>>18021183
spbp

>> No.18025301

>>18021173
based as usual

>> No.18025309

>>18021173
giga based

>> No.18025327

>>18021165
How can any man
who has experienced women all their lives
not think that women are all fucking retarded inferior subhumans?

>> No.18025340

>they know how troublesome women in power are

>> No.18025343

>>18023370
It always boils down to "the flesh is bad, the mind is good" with you people. But why?

>> No.18025357

>>18025343
Women have smaller brains on average than men.
Women are much more likely to be vain than men.

These 2 factors are enough to classify women as mentally retarded.

>> No.18025363

>>18025343
Every animal fucks but only humans can reflect and reject their animal nature.

>> No.18025389

>>18025343
The flesh isn't bad, I'm not even speaking from a religious perspective. I'm saying that living the flesh totally destroys the thing that separates you from the animal and makes you a man: your mind, your rationality, your ability to reflect upon the world.

>> No.18025410

Can somebody post the meme with the two girls in the jacuzzi, with the text "Man suffers only because he takes seriously what the gods made for fun"

>> No.18025484

>>18021200
>that although women can achieve great things
sure there are exception, but the striving for excellence is mostly a male behavior, there is a reason why the vast majority of the most accomplished philosopher, writter, painter, scientist, chess player, athlete, architect, buisness man, ect are male

>> No.18025556

Philosophy can be summed up as human attempts to synthesize a grand theory of the universe. A masculine desire to impose order resents the impulsive female who thrives in chaos. Likewise, females resent and reject the scrawny know-it-all who is in touch with the ethereal, since this is a female domain and men ought to be robust tyrants who command the real. This is mostly a western issue, as the western psyche and mythos is one of binary conflict. Eastern theories include a trinary (nonbinary) spiritual element that transmute and redeem binaries as complementary parts of a greater whole. Understanding that EVERYTHING is reactionary means that strife ends when you stop reacting. The third path is that of harmony and evolution.

tldr sour grapes, but it's mutual

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>>18023243
that graph is misleading, most of the IQ test used here are from teens and children, and women mature faster. when only looking at adult men and women, the result are much different