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I have realized how negative the influence of 4chan culture is in the life of young men. Want a big brother advice? Don't come back if you are less than 20 years old, you need to discover life without any of the preconceptions of this place, the ones that you are fed with in imageboard culture will make interaction much more difficult to you and I am not talking about the right wing extremism. No matter who you are you won't advance in life by staying in your bedroom, getting hit is better than this and you will teach far more.

>> No.18002307

I’m a young woman though :3

>> No.18002311

>getting hit is better than this
Can confirm.

>> No.18002312

>>18002300
dubs of truth. spent the majority of my childhood on the internet and vidya.
not recommended. get outside - even doing nothing will be better than this.

>> No.18002313

I wish I had discovered 4chan earlier, only came here at 21 after getting absoltuely burnt and cucked by a femhole. Would have prefered to get redpilled online rather than learning this shit the hard way.

>> No.18002318

>>18002313
why did she cuck you?

>> No.18002335

>>18002300
checked and De Facto pilled

>> No.18002336

>>18002318
Because women are whores. She had big tits and plenty male friends, should have seen the red flags from miles away but again - could have known this from 4chan.

>> No.18002339

>>18002318
why does anyone cheat? Why do people beat their gfs?

>> No.18002352

>>18002339
people don't love each other anymore, not really. at best they like and you make them feel good. at worst they're there to fulfill their needs. when there is someone or something more important than you they'll gladly cast you away.

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>>18002300
Fascism has made me into the chad meme

>> No.18002723

>>18002339
>why does anyone cheat
because they are evil, cheating is evil

>Why do people beat their gfs?
for fun, to keep her in line, etc

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>>18002300
4chan makes you a worse person in almost every way and I wish I wasn't too addicted to stop coming here. As much of a boring hivemind as Reddit/Twitter with infinitely more gratuitous mean-spiritedness and vitriol. Doesn't even have isolated pockets of kinship and community. You don't learn anything here, only contrarianism and an adolescent's need to define themselves by their 'patrician' taste in something. For many, hobbies and interests are only engaged with out of some weird political intent. Coming here with any sort of regularity is not what someone with a healthy mind does.

>> No.18002849

>>18002339
If my wife were to cheat on me I'd just leave her at her father's.

>> No.18003088

>>18002717
Based. I'm from /fit/ originally, so still have to read on fascism. I think I'll like it. One time in school we were told to come up with a solution to better the country. I said every time the prime minister messes up, he should be killed, and the ones after won't be corrupt out of fear. She told me that's on Hitler's biography, or wtv. I never read on Hitler.
Of course everyone was shocked, apart from 2 4channers.

>> No.18003125

4chan has made me a better man
i started lifting because of /fit/
i started reading because of /lit/
i started coding because of /g/
i invested in crypto because of /biz/
and in general, the gems of knowledge i have found here are priceless

>> No.18003130

>>18002300
Yeah facts. It takes a lifetime of work to extract all the poison this site injects into you.

I remember joining 4chan when it first started. My brother was an SA goon. It was less overtly toxic than it is now, more creative I think, but still super shitty. I think young men join these sorts of boards because childhood gives you this general sense you're being lied to, so you want to find out what's Real, and if you're a dude, particularly a mentally ill dude, it's very intuitive to think that the darkest, ugliest things are real. Then you soak in it so much that you forget how insane and toxic this place is. It's like how fish don't question water.

This place is crazy bad for everyone

>> No.18003148

>>18003088
I think you have to be 18 to post here

>> No.18003171

>>18002300
I'll disagree with a majority of this thread and say I came to 4chan because it was a place I could find unfiltered thoughts and opinions they occasionally mirrored my own. It was through my experiences with women that I came not to trust them and it was my experiences with mankind to see most people driven on by base and selfish urges that they generally leave unchecked. I'm here because it confirmed what I already believed, that things don't always happen for a reason, that you can't control everything in life, and that those who have had negative experiences in life are generally primed to encounter more.

>> No.18003179

>>18003148
I'm 28. I was 19 at the time.
Fear is proven to work. It's even how religions work.

>> No.18003185

>>18003179
ah

maybe you can find a way to scare yourself into doing some mental development

>> No.18003193

>>18002313
You deserved it for using that cringy terminology and trying too hard to sound like some le based redpill altright faggot. Kill yourself

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>>18003193
>t. picrel
Being a caring and respectful faggot is what got me cucked in the first place, not surprisingly I've had countless college girls initiating social situations with me once I learnt to ignore them completely or even act like a dickhead to them.

>> No.18003211

>>18002300
this is 100% true

>> No.18003212

>>18003125
Base, same

People are presented with a sea of informational treasure and they decide to pick pennies instead of diamonds.

>> No.18003219

>>18003209
I don't give a shit queer. Off yourself

>> No.18003225

>>18002300
Truly, 4chan is all about mind control, the embryonic marginals of society become entrapped there, pupate and ultimately emerge as "soldiers of 4chan," i.e. mind controlled psychotics; it works by the principle of reflexive (or mirror) mind control, whereby the subject subconsciously learns to brainwash himself (yes, it's almost always a "he"), by repetitive, ritualized interactions with images (usually shock pornography or graphic violence) coupled with absurdist/fascistic slogans resulting in acute adreno-dopaminergic arousal and addiction, followed by tolerance, to same; the ultimate consequence of which can be fruition and externalization of mind-controlled rage fantasies, which are themselves purely real-life replays of the selfsame encoded violence they had unguarded and unaware been surrendering themselves to over a period of months, in some cases even years, through the mechanism of 4chan's mind control image-centered gestational framework.

>> No.18003237

>>18003225
You are part of the problem.

>> No.18003238

>>18003219
Clearly cared enough to reply and show how triggered you are, subhuman simp.
>>>/o/nlyfans

>> No.18003251

>>18002300
Yeah this place is obviously fucking garbage, but I can't leave, I've come to love my prison and I'm here forever (so are you). Lmaoing also at all the cope and mental gymnastics in this thread trying to justify this place. Make no mistake, this place is a disease.

>> No.18003271

>>18002300
4chan is the modern mans plato's cave. the difference is that we operate here under the presumption that we are more enlightened than the normie herd, which makes it even harder to leave.

>> No.18003281

>>18003185
Why?

>> No.18003291

>>18002837
Hit a bit close to home :/ Maybe I should stop coming here
I think I have yet to actually have any net positive interactions on this site

>> No.18003310

>>18003291
It sort of works a bit like a casino, where you have mostly bad experiences with a few bright interactions to keep you coming back. It's a giant net loss but you remember that one time you got a really cool recommendation or made a great post and decide to just check 4chan one more time.

>> No.18003317

>>18002300
If you balance experience in the real world with the kind of perspective you get on a site like 4chan you get the full picture

This place will judge you brutally for your weakness and hypocrisy. That’s something that’s quite lacking in today’s world, but it’s also full of absolute garbage- which is good if you know how to filter it out because it will help you get better at identifying such things in the rel world

That being said, you need emotional maturity and a strong internal moral compass to use a site like 4chan properly or you’ll absorb the bad and become even more obnoxious and pretentious

>> No.18003319

>>18003237
How so?

>> No.18003328

>>18003291
>>18003310
4chan made lots of people stronger, smarter, better read and more motivated, people who ended up worse because of 4chan should look at themselves.

>> No.18003332

>>18002837
mostly correct
There are some warm and dry spots in this swamp but I won't say where, that's for you to find.

>> No.18003345

>>18003088
Jesus Christ please let this be bait.

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>>18003088
>I'm from /fit/ originally, so still have to read on fascism. I think I'll like it.

>> No.18003386

Nah, I love it here. Love bullshitting with my schizoid frens, from my limited interactions, your average person spends more time on dull social media than I do here, and they mistake it for real life.

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>>18003088
nice digits
>so still have to read on fascism
Have my list, it has a bit of everyting
https://ghostbin.co/paste/5dvy
Don't pay much attention to your other replies; they haven't argued anything in so far

>> No.18003419

another election tourist filtered
RETVRN to reddit or twitter or we you came from

>> No.18003457

>>18003399
converting people to my ideology that champions strength with 4chan screenshots of someone elses banal platitudes

it has a muscular classical statue attached, must be based!

>> No.18003473

>>18002307
Post feet

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>>18003457
>with 4chan screenshots
I put a reading list fucktard
>it has a muscular classical statue attached, must be based!
Yes. You are weak.

>> No.18003522

I wonder what it's like being in your 30s and still going on this site. Did you ever grow up? Did you ever change as a person? Do you regret your time spent here? 4chan is designed for the youthful social misfit with no real cause or drive, it was never meant to be a permanent estate for you.

>> No.18003527

>>18003486
looks like i'm "leaving messes for everyone else to clean up"! i'll have to dive into some aristotle and plato to learn how to become more of a strict parent, as you say

>> No.18003529

>>18003386
>your average person spends more time on dull social media than I do here, and they mistake it for real life.
Whataboutisms is not an excuse.
>>18003419
Cope.

>> No.18003540

>>18003125
>i started coding because of /g/
>i invested in crypto because of /biz/
bugman

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>>18003522
>I wonder what it's like being in your 30s and still going on this site. Did you ever grow up?

>> No.18003550

>>18003527
Sorry, english is not my first language. Could you make your sentence clearer?

>> No.18003555

>>18002837
>As much of a boring hivemind as Reddit/Twitter with infinitely more gratuitous mean-spiritedness and vitriol.
Oh fuck off. Reddit is definitely a gay little circlejerk hole where everyone sniffs their own farts but Twitter is defined entirely by vitriol and sensationalism.

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>>18003544

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>>18003522
Y-yeah lol who would still be here in their thirties right?

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>>18003544
>>18003580
you guys are thirty.....?

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>>18003580
Hello fellow old

>>18003522
4chan is the only thing that keeps me sane, normalfags are not even sentient

>> No.18003592

>>18003522
it's not my fault 4chan is more entertaining than real life. fuck off

>> No.18003593

>>18003544
>>18003580
The meek submissive replies says it all. I hope you get that push in your lives soon.

>> No.18003596

but 4chan inspired me to lift and read

>> No.18003597

>>18003555
Reddit and especially Twitter just hide their vitriol behind a polite veil. 4chan could never be as cruel as the Twitter-sphere

>> No.18003598

>>18003592
Your constant need to be entertained to detract from how shite your life is why you're so miserable.

>> No.18003608

>>18002300
I'm only here because this is the racism website

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>>18003608
very well said

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>>18003590
Boomer frens

>> No.18003636

>>18003522
>no drive

How do you fuck up this badly? Being here makes people MORE driven, wealthier, stronger, better read etc. Unlike modern society 4chan doesn't coddle people who choose to suck or make excuses.

>> No.18003645

>>18003636
>Being here makes people MORE driven, wealthier, stronger, better read etc.
most of it is a LARP. self-improvement exists on only very small boards, the real meat of the site is crap like /a/, /v/, and /pol/.

>> No.18003681

I don't know man. You have to take the good with the bad. While I think this place increases my tendency for self loathing and self pity at the same time its the only place of uncensored information that has actually impacted my life positively I.e. Investments from biz, reading from lit and political/historical red pills from pol. I've taken this knowledge into the real world. And yes, some of it increases your isolation but you cant out the genie back into the bottle. Once youre here you're here forever

>> No.18003693

>>18003399
I'd thank you, but I see Marcus Aurelius there, and while I do like Meditations, I don't see him as a fascist. Might have the fortitude of one, but he was a stoic. I'll follow the wiki instead. I'm reading through the major philosophical works, so I'll get there.

>> No.18003702

>>18003681
being able to filter out all the shit and focus only on the good like that is ideal but most are incapable of it. the best thing they could do is leave

>> No.18003725

>>18003636
>Being here makes people MORE driven, wealthier, stronger, better read etc.
This. I came because "le 4chinz hackerinos" and started with /b/ and /a/, and eventually changed to /fit/, /lit/, /fa/, /g/ and recently /out/. Now it's mostly just /lit/ and only go on other boards to find specific things.

>> No.18003730

>>18003225
>all this projection

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>>18003693
It's just a general list.
I have Jacques Ellul in there as well and he's a Christian anarchist.
The fascists are in the third Positionist category.

>> No.18004014

>>18003125
>i started coding because of /g/
I doubt you've ever used any of it to further your life or your career

>> No.18004044

>>18003125
and if you didn’t spend your time in these “seas of informational treasure,” you would have achieved nothing? that time would have just disappeared?

>> No.18004111

>>18003730

we're on to your OP, glowy

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4chan has unironically made me a better, smarter, fitter person. /fit/ motivated me to get /fit/, /lit/ motivated me start getting into great literature, /k/ motivated me to take up guns as a fun hobby. /biz/ helped me get into crypto and make massive gains, /pol/ helped me to learn to truly think critically about the news and reject white guilt.

>> No.18004201

>>18004187
>/pol/ helped me to learn to truly think critically
kek

>> No.18004209

>>18004187
You're still a midwit.

>> No.18004220

>>18004209
My IQ is 141

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>>18003088
THIS is why /fit/fags should they in their own board. NONE of the greatest philosophers were ever fit, if you chase after pursuits of the body you WILL lag behind in your pursuits of the mind.
>b-but Mishim-
Autistic faggot who inhaled too much cock and killed himself after seething too hard. Need I go on?

>> No.18004237

>>18002717
I'm in a similar transition (not to chad, but to keeping fit and the like) thanks to uncle ted

>> No.18004350

I'm about to turn 25. Seems like a good age to quit coming here, even though I really should have stopped years ago. I really don't want to be 30 and still have a 4chan habit.

>> No.18004426

>>18004350
I'm 30 but I'm only here when things aren't going well, so I think there is an element of a negativity bias here.

>> No.18004444

I’m 35 and still lurk. I’m not a KHV: I’ve had several long term live-in relationships and an average amount of casual sex. I’m a bartender with an outgoing, if serious, affect. Part of me will just always relate to the feelings here (excluding 90% of the racism and 75% of the misogyny).

>> No.18004509

>>18002300
They exaggerate mostly on women behavior. Not to say women are innocent creatures, far from it, but they are not pure evil monsters either.
Also, when something isn't right, and they lack knowledge about it, it's the jews.
>>18003125
This. Globally, it's still beneficial, but you have to have your own mental filters, otherwise, if you are weak minded and easily influenced, you'll get stupid pretty fast. Basically, you'll become a hitlerian sexless unread retard.

>> No.18004534

>>18003544
Basically something like a hundred time better than watching TV like a drone.

>> No.18004591

>>18004231
If you are 100% dedicated to the mind you are not fit for reality

>> No.18004637

>>18004231
Socrates was a war hero you mongoloid.

>> No.18004655

>>18004231
as if anyone here is a great philosopher lmao

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>>18004509
>Not to say women are innocent creatures, far from it, but they are not pure evil monsters either
fuck off yes they are

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>>18002300
>I have realized how negative the influence of 4chan culture is in the life of young men.
Negative influence? Unlike the extremist woke children on TikTok who doxx people at the mere questioning of leftist ideology? Unlike the predators on Twitter who praise for corporate and government/police protection for lgbt+ dominance while being anti-capitalist and self-government/police? Unlike Plebbit, who cannot fathom growing up, much less accepting of centrist or right ideology to perhaps meet at a middle ground? So much so, to the extent that there are subplebbits dedicated to harassing "wrong-think" rather than to talk to them to challenge or even to come to understanding from these ideas.

Yet 4chan is the bad one? Perhaps to the man that cannot handle opinions given outside of the socially acceptable hugbox. But I'd argue that having a variety of opinions, even those in which you do not morally or ethically agree with, strengthens your worldview and helps you reach an ultimate understanding. Which is what you should be reaching for anyway.

>> No.18004754

>>18004738
I was waiting for this
>>18002300 go back to instagram

>> No.18004773

>>18004444
Yet none of you Guy Fawkes faggots will even check my quads.

>> No.18004778

>>18002300
im on 4chan because i like being alone not vice versa

>> No.18004787

>>18004220
Exactly

>> No.18004820

>>18003225
>>18002837
>>18002300
tourists

>> No.18004826

>>18002837
only after I stopped coming here daily and therefore stopped associating any aspect of my identity with this place did I come to essentially this exact realization. If you read this post and react anything like this sad blind highly-projecting anon >>18003555 by pointing fingers at the flaws of others without addressing the substance of the initial claim then you're clearly lying to yourself about your own state of affairs

go get laid or something

>> No.18004846

>>18004187

>antidepressants helped me overcome depression so I obviously I have to take them everyday until the day I die

whenever you feel like youre the member of this community, just ask yourself: what's my name?

>> No.18004850

Honest question: does anybody actually want to be here?

>> No.18004915

>>18004850
no, I want to be in Mc Donald's

>> No.18005192

>>18003130
Underrated post

>> No.18005270

>>18002352
People don't love others any more or less, it's just culture is changing to be more accepting of divorce, not marrying etc. so less people stay in dead marriages because it's the proper thing to do

>> No.18005398

>>18003317
This. Take the good part leave the bad ones. That's how all learning works.

>> No.18005405

>>18004850
no, but you guys are my only friends. When I get off of this site, I realize how lonely and isolated I really am in real life, and I come crawling back

>> No.18005411

>>18005405
I'm sorry to hear that, anon. I hope you make some real life friends.

>> No.18005428

>>18004850
Yes. You guys are the only real human beings left online

>> No.18005453

>>18002300
>I am not talking about the right wing extremism
yes you are dishonest faggot

>> No.18005667

Is this an astroturf thread from bunkerchan? Sorry I'm new to the cause.

>> No.18005868

I came here when I was 15/16, but honestly 4chan made me grow. If I didn't come here I would continue lurking my national imageboard, which is much more hardcore. ISIS videos, killing animals and weird porn and discussions about drugs is a standard there, and additionally a few times a year there are organized "happenings" like stalking people (also mentally ill people) and harassing them for fun, or other shit like that.
I was lurking it for about a year when I was 15 and I thought 4chan is the same, but in English, but slowly I noticed that the culture is much different and that nobody even cares when someone posts their face here. Also women are allowed.
So yeah, this place made me grow, especially boards like /g/, /mu/, /sci/ and /lit/.

>> No.18005873

>>18005868
Russian or something?

>> No.18005875

>>18005873
Polish

>> No.18005878

>>18003681
>And yes, some of it increases your isolation but you cant out the genie back into the bottle. Once youre here you're here forever
This. 4chan is obviously varied and not uniform, but when you go on boards like /mu/ or /sci/ or /lit/, there is a higher density of geniuses on 4chan than any other site on the internet. Why? Unfiltered information is narcotics for intelligent people, and though many do get consumed in the bowels of b and pol, the aforementioned are unique in that they're pure. Goodreads has its place, but it's just simply too nice for internet communication. What makes 4chan addicting is when you read something insanely offensive or shocking, like COVID19 is fake, or women are children, or realities of the BLM riots vs news narrative, you really can't unsee the matrix. Also, the toxicity is only bad if you give in, just turn the other cheek and forgive the bitter person. The book recommendations on /lit/ are generally better than professors or any qualified ranking. That being said, I'm here to stay for a little while.

>> No.18005879

>>18004915
Based burgerpunk

>> No.18005888

>>18002336
Don't worry, I had my kid with a backstabbing bitch.

>> No.18005928

Don’t reduce the toxic nature of being on the internet to just 4chan. The problem is being sucked into the constant artificial dopamine hit that all websites operate on. 4chan is a symptom, not the cause.

>> No.18006138

>>18002307
ywnbaw

>> No.18006160

>>18005878
yes geniuses are very attracted to unhinged, insubstantial, politically charged schizo ramblings

whatever makes you feel better for wasting 4 hours a day here

>The book recommendations on /lit/ are generally better than professors or any qualified ranking

jesus christ read more

>> No.18006238

I truly despise most of the users here regardless if I agree with them, but it's simply the last worthwhile place of free communication.
And it's a point lost on many of the idiots here. The fact that posters attempt vainglorious efforts to vanguard "board culture" is not what has made the site work, and in fact has generally failed to ever protect site culture whenever used. The fact that you can massage your fragile ego and frustrations by making a dismissive response or unsubstantial post is not why the site works, and really does nothing for the board culture except make it a bigger time waster. That's merely a side effect of free communication, which is weathered for the truly good posts and unfettered discussion.
And that's true for many of the other psychotic or disgusting things, they mere exist as an unconscious cultural system. People who make it a conscious effort are tryhards and miss the point.

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>>18004850
I enjoy my time here well enough. There's some solid discussion to be found and there's no other place that can make me laugh like I do here. Moreover, there's a strange intimacy. People are willing to express themselves in a way they would never do in real life, even with their closest friends. Maybe it's the boards I browse, but my experience is pretty pleasant. Admittedly, I also only read 10% of the threads at any given time I browse. You just have to learn to sift of the better threads.

>> No.18006737

>>18003681
Imagine taking history lessons from /pol/

>> No.18006786

>>18002300
4chan is good if you keep it at a distance, not making it too important in your life, especially not identifying with its community. But just appreciating it. Luckily I lived and developed my life before I found 4chan. But it's just lazy to think 4chan somehow stunted your growth, and as if you can't isolate how 4chan positively influenced your youth from 4chan itself.

This >>18002311

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Political actors realize they can easily manipulate angry young men without a lot going on in their lives into hating on some other group or voting for some politician who will punch your dad for you.

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>>18002300
>Want a big brother advice?
No, fuck off back to your shithole >>/fit/ with your masturbatory bugman bullshite fads of "self-improvement" you mortally terrified larper.
I'll go with eternal Schopenhauerean wisdom that some sage on /lit/ posted long ago.

I often remind myself that we’re all puppets trapped in a decomposing cage of flesh and bone, with a million desires whirling around us at all times like sirens attempting to lure us to our doom. That these desires are nothing but the conjured demons of economics, society, and evolution and while they promise fulfillment they will only use you to their own ends, increasing their strength over you, leaving you a slave and a broken human. The world of phenomena is a test, projected by the noumena, and to conquer it you must conquer yourself.

Although I might try to convince myself that life has some external value, after a night drinking with “friends” or a sexual encounter with woman, it quickly becomes apparent that most friends are not worth having, and that woman’s sexual desires are so perverse and banal that their even having desired you bears the weight of a bad conscience. What man does not disgrace himself by submitting to a woman’s desires? He becomes a fool, a brute, a scoundrel, a cuckhold, all at once— and looses himself in the process. What man benefits from society? He devoured his life’s work to the machinations of warfare and industry, he trampled the earth, he becomes bound up in stories told to gullible children, he is sold slavery and like an idiot wears his chains with pride.

Service originates in the Latin word "Servi”, meaning slave. That’s what society, friends, woman the whole world, asks from you, your slavery. In English, the familiar for of “you”, “thou”, has long since died from the language. For those lonely men in Anglo countries seeking company, this should be (with honest reflection) enough proof that you will never find it. We live in a civilizational world-spirit which lacks even the words to express friendship, closeness.

There are two things in life worth their weight in gold: freedom and silence. How many men exchange these treasures for paper? Or for a soft touch of flesh? Or for some false sense of meaning to disguise their emptiness?

In books, there is the peace of forming a genuine connection with another person. If you cannot read, write. If you cannot write, read. If you are still lonely, hire a whore; it is less demeaning and less expensive than going to clubs. Logos is the breaking free of the soul from the flesh, embrace this and turn your eyes from the treachery of desire.

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>>18002300
I found this place 10 years ago and thought everyone was just focusing on the negatives and overly pessimistic about the world. I was wrong though, 4chan is the voice in the wilderness that calls out things for what they are

>> No.18006823

>>18006813
lol is this wannabe /lit/ equivalent of "What the fuck did you just say about me?"

>> No.18006833

>>18006813
Tell more

>> No.18006858

4chan is not bad, its definetily better than reddit if you dont have some special hobby. Twitter is just horrible

>> No.18006874

>>18002313
you haven't learned anything I see

>> No.18006878

>>18006823
(You)

>>18006833
This is pretty much it anon. This is the wisdom of pessimism in a nutshell. If you want to go in depth then start with a collection of essays by Schopenhauer. Pessimists don't sell you the fad of le happiness or hypnotize you with the delusion of grandeur. But there is strange sort of comfort in the despair of seeing things as they are and there is pride in standing face to face with death.

>> No.18006891

>>18003209
No you were retarded in the beginning and now you're just aware of it and will try desperately to make up for it with 4chan advice which will bring you nowhere, and you know it yourself deep down

>> No.18006893

>>18006813
Not reading all that garbage, skimmed over it and saw "woman", "whore" "sexual", etc.
Do pseudointellectual incels REALLY seethe this much?

>> No.18006932

>>18006893
That pasta wasn't written by an incel because he was clearly sexually very active. I have nothing against women as individuals. The post is more about recognizing futility of everything than anything else.
You have the attention span of a teenage tiktok user. So now read the whole post you retarded cunt.

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>>18006893
do pseudo-bookcels really?

>> No.18007072

another brigade of twitter faggots from the ‘any group of men’ thing tweet that went viral yesterday trying to concern troll. 4chan is easily better than reddit or twitter but the best advice you’ll get is to get off the internet entirely for as much time as possible. go create things, get in a fist fight, get ur heart broken, go on an adventure. thats what lifes about. not living vicariously through the internet. you’ll never be happy as long as you frequent the internet and any social site. you will rot your brain. reddit and twitter are worse by far, they reprogram your brain with updoots and likes etc. so OP is a faggot but they’re not entirely wrong. get off the internet, go lift weights and read books, become beautiful and surround yourself with beauty and nature. eat healthy, real foods.

>> No.18007077

>>18006813
$500 this is Logo or Kantbot

>> No.18007113

>>18003125
>i started lifting because of /fit/
>i started reading because of /lit/
literally me

>> No.18007121

>>18007113
losers are destined to be losers no matter where they spend their time, winners gain things wherever they spend their time. if this norwegian kitten farming website fucked u up its your own fault, not the websites. people just don’t understand this.

>> No.18007128

>>18007121
i dont see how a site can be such a destroying thing as people say it is
just stop using it?..

>> No.18007164

>>18004231
Plato, Aristotle and Socrates were absolute gym bros and modern philosophers will always be inferior to them because they don't harmonize body and soul. Didn't you know that the Academia and the Lyceum were the biggest gyms in Athens?

>> No.18007170

>>18004231
>>18007164
also, Plato was a wrestler before becoming a philosopher and Socrates fought in the Peloponnesian wars

>> No.18007234

>>18002837
>tfw habitual 4chan user since 12 (2006)
>tfw over the years have called /b/, /v/, /fit/, /mu/, /lit/ and /biz/
>tfw started on this site a friendless autismo
>tfw every board improves some aspect of my character, fitness intellect monetary wealth, taste in music, taste in women.
>tfw I oftentimes know about marker movements before they occur because insider info on /biz/
>tfw I have more money than anyone I studied with, even my ex who works as a senior it developer in Silicon Valley (she’s a hoe and I’m dating her best friend now) despite the fact that im a full time neet without a job.

Have you ever considered that the problem isn’t 4chan, but something exclusive to you?

>> No.18007247

>>18002837
She has had a mini stroke that effected her left side.

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>>18002717
>>18003088
>>18004237

>> No.18007277

>>18007247
She just turned 30 and has run into some scandals please leave her alone.

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>>18004231
>autism
>homosexuality
Both incredibly based, two traits which are shared by many great authors and philosophers. Get the fuck off of /lit/.

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>>18007264
you're ngmi

>> No.18007501

>>18002300
>I have realized how negative the influence of 4chan culture is in the life of young men. Want a big brother advice? Don't come back if you are less than 20 years old, y
Yes, just consoom mainstream media and absorb the lessons:
>white bad, black good
>men bad, women good
>meritocracy bad, communism good
>europe violent, africa peaceful
>obey gvnt good, question gvnt bad

>> No.18007582

>>18004231
Plato was one of the most celebrated wrestlers of his time
We don't actually know his real name, because Plato was his wrestling nickname, translating to "large" or "broad"

>> No.18008173

bump

>> No.18008194

>>18003555
Trips of truth. What OP says still stands, however.

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>>18007501
Based brother,fuck democrat commies

>> No.18008211

>>18005878
That's it. I'm out.

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>>18007501

>> No.18008364

If coming here ruins your life you were always weak and were always going to fail.

>> No.18008548

>>18007077
Fuck off from this board with your e-tards you twitterfaggot.
It's a fucking pasta from archive and anon just condensed Schopenhauerean outlook on life.

>> No.18008668

I'm fairly successful, have a wife and two kids. I found this place at 16 years in 2006 and have enjoyed a b pol news lit his and mostly k. Now I mostly visit his and lit, I am in an ex-/k/ group that's nice for k stuff since k is mostly inane and gun culture at large has a "too poor to be a car guy" selection factor to it.

I used to work with aircraft mechanics and liked them as peole In the sense they were more grounded normies that shared a decent amount of values with me even if I was not as brutish and worked avionics. Now I work with IT types of people who are total redditors and almost completely unrelatable, though at least smarter. It's absolutely enraging to hear redditors discuss anything as they invariably appeal to authority or consensus values when I rarely press them on an issue they bring up.

4channers just seem like people who can at least somehow even be respectful idiots and at best be much more inquisitive brilliant people.

>> No.18009071

>>18003522
So literal newfags are telling us what 4chan is for now?

>> No.18009082

>>18009071
Kek, I feel bad for oldfags now. Newfags are getting more disrespectful with time.

>> No.18009144

>>18002717
post body and 5 rep maxes

>> No.18009165

>>18007170
Plato's name means "broad-shouldered", even

>> No.18009190

>>18004231
Prime cope

>> No.18009219

>>18009165
He was well built because he a solider and decided to become a philosopher in his middle age not because he saw some faggy statue of a philosopher and decided to hit the gym and read so he can sit in front of computer he preach to everyone like a christcuck about how he is a superior being for having a monke body while sitting in a cubicle from 9-5.

>> No.18009227

>>18004231
Literally the only philosophers that have ever mattered were also fit. Like the water reflects the moon, the body reflects the mind and soul.

>> No.18010281

>>18003130
i find this place a double edged sword. it has challenged me to explore views beyond my own. It has also sent me down some fucked up rabbit holes. Overall, it's been a learningful experience, but I wish I missed out on some of the rabbit holes.

>> No.18010360

>>18004231
What other anons already said, plus if you don't use one then the other will lag behind, which has been proven countless times. Try reading books that have a scientific approach to the training of the human body.
Plus, being a philosopher isn't a job, so might as well just have deep knowledge in useful stuff and the ones you like. Bruce Lee was a good example.

>> No.18010878

>>18008668
>>18007501
>>18007234
>>18007121
>>18006893
>>18006813
>>18006798
>>18006786
>>18006692
>>18006238
>>18005928
>>18005878
>>18005667
>>18005398
>>18004846
>>18004738
>>18004444
>>18004426
>>18004187
>>18003702
>>18003681
>>18003555
>>18003522
>>18003386
>>18003317
>>18003225
>>18003212
>>18003171
>>18003130
the truth is a weird amalgamation of these posts

>> No.18010919

>>18010878
>truth
How do you know it? And if you know it then what is it?

>> No.18010989

>>18010919
change "truth" to "i suspect", since id guess you can't "know" anything by the rabbit hole you want to jump down.

>> No.18011018

>>18010989
what do you suspected in those posts?

>> No.18011153

>>18003522
It’s funny cause if 4chan works properly it will drive any person with even a shred of a good moral compass out. All that’s left are the degenerates, wallowing in endless cynicism and their own self propelled war against false flaggers.

>> No.18011399

Speaking to people who think they're smart or educated, but have not spent time lurking 4chan, is like speaking to people who have never fully grown up, and who are running at a much slower speed.
The information found in the mainstream is so sterilised and boring.
TV is a dead medium and even if you watch the news and documentaries you will still be a total brainlet.
The homour of the average person is leagues below whats on here. Even the background noise of dubs threads and shitposting is funnier than most comedians.

I've learned more about politics, history, and human psychology on here than I would ever dream of. I learned to draw properly by reading books off the /ic/ sticky. I have laughed hysterically if not every day then at least every other day.

>> No.18011792

>>18002300
Some of the best laughs I've had came from stupid 4chan shitposting but there is a certain point where online places in general weigh ruminating more heavily than they should over being individuals of actual action. Having some quiet time to think about your direction is important but there's only so much time in the day and people benefit greatly from focused work or building skills. I think 4chan for one reason or another seems to always be on the leading edge of some things about the culture of the english-speaking world before it starts to manifest in other places as well, that's also one of its major attractions.

>> No.18011824

>>18004231
what a nice cope for being a fat fuck

>> No.18011872

>>18011399
>Even the background noise of dubs threads and shitposting is funnier than most comedians
This is a learned response

>> No.18011974

>>18011399
Speaking of /ic/ one of the funniest things I've ever read in my life came from there. Some thread was talking about Vilppu and his figure drawing video lectures and an anon with a lengthy post mocked his slow and tired way of speaking in a way that had me (and apparently other anons) laughing for a few straight minutes. I don't even clearly remember how that anon managed to do that kind of thing so well, I wish I had saved a screencap

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>>18004231
Plato, ever heard of him?
Dumb shit that hasn't heard of blood vessel health in brain an relation to IQ and microinfarctions, BDNF, VEGF and neurogenesis

if you don't workout for at least 2.5 hours a week or so you should kys

>> No.18012678

>>18003225
>it's almost always a "he"
Why is this phrase always found verbatim in the most annoying sort of writing by the most annoying sort of people?

>> No.18012709

>>18002300
>Don't come back if you are less than 20 years old
Exactly the opposite should hold.
By the time you're older than 20 you should grow out of this place, not into it. Also sage etc for this self help tier bullshit.

>> No.18012725

>>18002300
When did this saccharine, self help circle jerk stuff show up. Is this a nu/fit/ trend

>> No.18013100

>>18002717
no

>> No.18013225

>>18002837
Now I remember why I stopped coming to /lit/. Truly a midwit post

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I've been coming to this site about since I was 20. I'm 34 now.

I think this site keeps me sharp and on my toes. I can relate to many of my fellow Millennials/Boomers, I can get along with them, but I sometimes feel a bit shocked at how disconnected, out of touch, and susceptible to, frankly, social engineering they are. They love fucking Marvel movies, for God's sake, even /co/, the comic book board, knows those are trash. This site has acted as a kind of counter-conditioning for most of my adult life and it also helps me discern what's true and what's false.

/lit/, particularly, has been immensely valuable to me. I have been coming to this board since its beginnings. It helped me discover Borges, Gene Wolfe, Pessoa, Spenser, so many genuinely great writers that my American public school and university education would not have exposed me to. It has helped motivate me to become a good writer and a good poet. It exposed me to the earliest days of dissident and unpopular political thought, on both the left and the right, and it is still good for picking up things on the forefront of politics and culture.

I even got my very first short story published in a /lit/ magazine. I've now had multiple short stories and multiple poems published. I am working on a substantial work which I hope /lit/ likes, a work which I have been planning almost as long as I have been coming to 4chan.

I don't know about anyone else, but this site, for me, has immense value. I will cherish it always, and if it ever goes away I'll miss it greatly.

Other main boards are /a/, /co/, /o/, and /sp/, by the way.

>> No.18013327

>>18004231
You're behind in both.

>> No.18013358

>>18002307
post penis

>> No.18013389

>>18008548
no eat my dick u fat fuck, i’ll do whatever i want. this board and site have improved since our immigration.

>> No.18013436

>>18013309
sweet

remember to shill your book here

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>>18013436
Oh, don't worry, Anon, when I'm published and people are talking about my book you'll fucking know it, because I'll specifically come here to gloat and lord it over the rest of you.

>> No.18013446

>>18006821
based post
based painting

>> No.18013637

>>18007474
see >>18007264

>> No.18013645

>>18013309
>implying this abhorrent place doesn't (a)socially engineer you as well and instills its own brand of shitty values and ideologies

>> No.18013788

>>18003209
explain to me your reasoning on why you believe women act this way.

>> No.18014597

>>18002300
good advice

>> No.18014636

>>18002336
Hahhaha oh man you're taking the wrong lessons from all of this.

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>>18013637
you're ngmi, have this fren

>> No.18014912

>>18002336
same man. My ex told me she cheated on my all throughout our relationship because she "needed good dick".

>> No.18015353

>>18002300
This whole thread feedbacks and proves OP correct.