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17999715 No.17999715 [Reply] [Original]

Do the stoics have any strategies for a man to overcome his libido and start being indifferent to the desire of getting a girlfriend?

>> No.17999724
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>>17999715
alphacenturui

>> No.17999737
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>> No.17999742

>>17999715
All of the Stoics had wives or side bitches. Quit being a wimpy faggot and fuck some bitches.

>> No.17999749

>>17999715
Just take any antipsychotic. They destroy libido like nothing else.

> t. schizo

>> No.17999763

>>17999742
Epictetus never married and continued to live like a poor man even after being released from his slavery. The guy probably never got a gf. Also:
>fuck some bitches
That's exactly what you should not do.

>> No.17999770

>>17999763
That's because Epictetus was a slave. He probably went to brothels. You should do the same.
>That's exactly what you should not do.
Wrong.

>> No.17999784

>>17999770
What good is sex without love and affection? You can easily satisfy raw libido of the body with masturbation but you cannot satisfy the soul by fucking random whores.
I highly doubt that going to a brothel makes you indifferent to the desire of getting a girlfriend. Maybe it makes you emotionally numb but that is more out of bitterness than fulfillment.

>> No.17999808

>>17999737
>use boys sexually without any restraint
How do I achieve this?

>> No.17999864

>>17999784
Romans had a class system but gave the lower class the sexual part of rousseau's social contract. Maybe the roman brothels filled that desire as they were cheap compared to today and you could even sleep full night for 2 to 20 asses (lowest of roman coins)

>> No.17999940

>>17999715
Cut your balls off.

>> No.17999951

>>17999715
You could try heroin. That nuked the hell out of my sex drive.

>> No.18000444

>>17999715
If you can stand youtube then watch the Better Bachelor channel. Joker has a lot of good advice.

>> No.18000470

>>17999808
take the fagpill

>>17999715
would also like some advice on this

>> No.18000476

>>17999951
Nukes everything except the heroin drive, at least that's what I heard.

>> No.18000554

>>18000470
take the fagpill

>> No.18000603

>>17999715
Have sex incel

>> No.18000613 [DELETED] 

>>17999715
Ask yourself:
Why do you want a girlfriend? What will you acquire by getting one?
Are those things that you will acquire things that will make you happy? If you believe that virtue is the sole good, no, they won't make you happy.

But that doesn't mean you should be alone and never have a relationship. But that you shouldn't see it as a good.

You should ask yourself: when is it virtuous to have a relationship. What should you seek in that relationship?

>> No.18000759

>>18000603
lol I cannot because I have a small dick, your response does not work on me, try again

>> No.18000788

>>18000759
As long as you have a dick measuring above 0 you can have sex; if you have a dick measuring less than that, then one could say that you are perpetually fucking yourself as it inverts itself into you. Either way, you're still capable of it.

Have sex incel.

>> No.18000814

Numbered Discourses 7
5. A Great Sacrifice

50. Sex

Then the brahmin Jāṇussoṇi went up to the Buddha, and exchanged greetings with him. When the greetings and polite conversation were over, he sat down to one side and said to the Buddha, “Does Master Gotama claim to be celibate?”

“Brahmin, if anyone should be rightly said to live the celibate life unbroken, impeccable, spotless, and unmarred, full and pure, it’s me.”

“But what, Master Gotama, is a break, taint, stain, or mar in celibacy?”

“Firstly, an ascetic or brahmin who claims to be perfectly celibate does not mutually engage in sex with a female. However, they consent to being anointed, massaged, bathed, and rubbed by a female. They enjoy it and like it and find it satisfying. This is a break, taint, stain, or mar in celibacy. This is called one who lives the celibate life impurely, tied to the fetter of sex. They’re not freed from rebirth, old age, death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, sadness, and distress. They’re not freed from suffering, I say.

Furthermore, an ascetic or brahmin who claims to be perfectly celibate does not mutually engage in sex with a female. Nor do they consent to massage and bathing. However, they giggle and play and have fun with females. …

they gaze into a female’s eyes. …

they listen through a wall or rampart to the sound of females laughing or chatting or singing or crying. …

they recall when they used to laugh, chat, and have fun with females …

they see a householder or their child amusing themselves, supplied and provided with the five kinds of sensual stimulation. …

They don’t see a householder or their child amusing themselves, supplied and provided with the five kinds of sensual stimulation. However, they live the celibate life wishing to be reborn in one of the orders of gods. They think: ‘By this precept or observance or mortification or spiritual life, may I become one of the gods!’ They enjoy it and like it and find it satisfying. This is a break, taint, stain, or mar in celibacy. This is called one who lives the celibate life impurely, tied to the fetter of sex. They’re not free from rebirth, old age, death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, sadness, and distress. They’re not free from suffering, I say.

As long as I saw that these seven sexual fetters—or even one of them—had not been given up in me, I didn’t announce my supreme perfect awakening in this world with its gods, Māras, and Brahmās, this population with its ascetics and brahmins, its gods and humans.

But when I saw that these seven sexual fetters—every one of them—had been given up in me, I announced my supreme perfect awakening in this world with its gods, Māras, and Brahmās, this population with its ascetics and brahmins, its gods and humans. Knowledge and vision arose in me: ‘My freedom is unshakable; this is my last rebirth; now there’ll be no more future lives.’”

>> No.18000877

Watch lots of sissy hypno for extended amounts of time

>> No.18000927

>>17999715
Get a job and struggle in life.

>> No.18000949

>>18000788
>x > 0 || x < 0

Why are you so bad at math? Are you a woman?

>> No.18000961

>>18000554
Touché

>> No.18001026

>>18000949
>amount of sex youve had
>0

Have sex incel.

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I heard there were women in this thread posting about how they're women and giving advice on the acquisition of sex from women!

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Remember not to communicate with roasties except to remind them that they are aging.

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>>17999715
No. In fact, if you read Diogenes Laertius book 7.136, you can see why:

>God is one and the same with Reason, Fate, and Zeus ; he is also called by many other names. [136] In the beginning he was by himself ; he transformed the whole of substance through air into water, and just as in animal generation the seed has a moist vehicle, so in cosmic moisture God, who is the seminal reason of the universe, remains behind in the moisture as such an agent, adapting matter to himself with a view to the next stage of creation.

In Greek, moist vehicle is "gone", which likely means female reproductive organ, or female moisture. Thus, you could say that, in a sense, the Stoic God creates the cosmos by turning part of itself into a woman and fucking himself. Now, considering that for the Stoics the good life is life in accordance with nature, and that nature = the will of god (god=cosmos), you could say that having sex, being natural, is something you should do, instead of avoiding it. God himself, in fact, in order to give birth to the cosmos, literally made a girlfriend out of his own body and impregnated itself. If the sage is the one who follows the will of the cosmos and god, and lives according to nature, why would you act any different?

>> No.18001081

>>17999715
Aurelius viewed women as bags of meat. He describes it in his Meditations that a bunch of dancers were no different from bags of meat moving around.

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>>18001070
And this is why incels should read pic related before Epictetus and Marcus Aurelius

>> No.18001098

>>18001081
That's his view on any human being, not just women. Don't incellize roman emperors, please.

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>> No.18001144

You get a girlfriend if you plan to marry her later in order to have a family.

Here is Musonius Rufus.

>Not the least significant part of the life of luxury and selfindulgence lies also in sexual excess; for example those who lead such a life crave a variety of loves not only lawful but unlawful ones as well, not women alone but also men; sometimes they pursue one love and sometimes another, and not being satisfied with those which are available, pursue those which are rare and inaccessible, and invent shameful intimacies, all of which constitute a grave indictment of manhood. Men who are not wantons or immoral are bound to consider sexual intercourse justified only when it occurs in marriage and is indulged in for the purpose of begetting children, since that is lawful, but unjust and unlawful when it is mere pleasure-seeking, even in marriage.

>The husband and wife, he used to say, should come together for the purpose of making a life in common and of procreating children, and furthermore of regarding all things in common between them, and nothing peculiar or private to one or the other, not even their own bodies.

I think the problem with modern culture is that they see dating as an end in itself and that many men view their worth as men depending on how well they do at getting women.


>>18001070
That's BS.

>> No.18001214

>>18001144
I appreciate the effort but I made the thread because I cannot get a girlfriend and the only thing that would keep me sane is to become indifferent to the desire.
If no girl wants to date me how could I even get a wife? If the gods intended for me that I will be a husband then they would have given me genetic traits that attract women, e.g. height, a big dick, good face etc.

>> No.18001246

>>18001106
>Males giving women a hard time for not settling at 18 for the chauvinist trap

You have a whole board for this bullshit

>> No.18001391

>>18001144
It's the BS in which Zeno, Cleanthes and Chrysippus likely believed though

>> No.18001543

>>18001391
Very "creative" interpretations of out of context quotes by Diogenes Laertius are a poor source for Stoic theory.

>> No.18001613

>>17999737
kek

>> No.18001663

>>18001246
The only real equilibrium possible involves a certain amount of coercion(of men too mind you). I am not advocating this though because our society absolutely deserves to go extinct, and we may as well have fun as it collapses

>> No.18001913

Use porn as your outlet. The urges will be sated and you won't have to deal with the pain of inevitable rejection