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It's about a Turkish girl who left Islam, because she preferred hookups, festivals and lip-fillers. Why are Dutch authors and Dutch taste in literature so shit? What went wrong Dutchbros?

>> No.17957784

Have you read it? Do you read at all?

>> No.17957785

>>17957774
Based. Fuck Islam and fuck incels.

>> No.17957788

>>17957774
What the fuck, I love the Dutchese now!?

>> No.17957796

All women are whores.
> It was narrated from ‘Imran ibn Husayn that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “I looked into Paradise and I saw that the majority of its people were the poor. And I looked into Hell and I saw that the majority of its people are women.”

>> No.17957822

The Dutch are scum

>> No.17957825

>>17957774
>What went wrong with Dutchbros?
Everything.

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>>17957784
No, because I can't find a pirated version and cba giving her money for some liberal cash grab book, but she looks like a whore by appearance and her most famous paragraph is:

"Dating is forbidden, having friends of the opposite sex is unlawful, dressing nicely and wearing make-up is inappropriate, being outside in the evening is impermissible, watching dirty and immoral movies is unacceptable - not just porn, but also scenes of people making out with each other - pagan celebrations aren't allowed, you can't work with males and neither can you party or visit festivals. Do I have to live like a houseplant? Do I have to enter a marriage where all the sex has been rammed out before it even starts, because my procreators have chosen a completely humorless, bloodless and Quran-fixed dick for me? And then turn into a breeding hen like all the women around me? And spend the rest of my life like that? Is that what I live for? Is God then pleased with my tragedy?"

>> No.17957832

Hoer

>> No.17957856

Hot. Forced bimbofication for all muslims

>> No.17957886

Based woman living her truth

>> No.17957887

>>17957829
it does feel like this though. in islam if you completely fit the rules it feels like your life only exist to make children and clean the house for your husband. its not being able to do group projects with your classmates, being asked to change classes because half the class is male, thinking all men will ever do is rape you and constantly being afraid and not being able to understand they are human beings that can think before they act. its having to talk around in baggy clothes because someones accusation is more powerful than your word. im still muslim and i havent stopped believing in God/Allah, but fitting into the rules completely is torture especially in current times.

>> No.17957896

>>17957829
What is typical with muslim women living here is that they turn into whores (same in their home countries, really) due to the oppressive nature of islam. The same goes for faggotry, something about the religion makes it backfire on them.

>> No.17957900

>>17957774
>what i don’t approve of is wrong

Consider the possibility that you might be wrong. Just play with the thought. Apply these two theories to your life and see which one fits reality best.

>> No.17957901

>>17957829
Are you scared of reading books by people who have different opinions than you?

>> No.17957906

>>17957829
>Do I have to live like a houseplant? Do I have to enter a marriage where all the sex has been rammed out before it even starts, because my procreators have chosen a completely humorless, bloodless and Quran-fixed dick for me?
That’s pretty funny, I like this whore

>> No.17957909

No. See this is just what happens now. People write books that are ya know checking certain boxes for the critics and the academics. Then they get notoriety among the critics and academics. They put it on all kinds of “best books” lists and that’s how they get sales. I swear 60% of the book market is old hyper-liberal women who work on staff in education buying books they’ll never read because some magazine told them to.

>> No.17957912

inb4 she gets her head severed

>> No.17957932

>>17957774
It's fitting that an arab should make a book in Dutch - they both have the same gutteral "gggrgehegh" not found in English, from this I suspect the Dutch race developed in the same way the Irish did - from North African migration along the coast. It is therefore her racial right to migrate to the Netherlands, stop complaining

>> No.17957960

>>17957932
Netherlands has been full of Arabs and Turks for decades, Amerimutt.

>> No.17957963

>>17957896
>due to the oppressive nature of islam
Nope, it's thanks to globalisation. Social media, Hollywood, Netflix reach any country in the world. Netherlands has liberal academia and is known for tolerating feminism, homosexuality, hypersexualization, drugs and pedophilia, so they inevitably have to deal with this culture. If you teach religious values to your daughter on a young age and put them in Islamic educational schools, they'll most likely end up traditional. In the case of the author of this book, it probably was a mixture of vague Turkish secularism and Ataturk values combined with Islamic values that were attempted to be enforced on a way too late age and implemented in a bad way.

>> No.17957977

>>17957909
The reason this got attention was because she got DM's of 14 years old Moroccan boys threatening or insulting her and she screenshotted these and spammed it on her Twitter everyday. This got attention of both the liberals and right wing islamophobes and she got invited by talk shows.

>> No.17957979

>>17957932
Haha kanker cuck

>> No.17957984

women having sex (with other people than me) makes me SOOO mad. literature is ruined!

>> No.17957988

>>17957963
Muslim women were whores before globalisation too.

If you don't understand this simple fact then please tell your wife to assume the father role as well.

>> No.17957993

>>17957988
.t christcuck trying to cope with the fact that 100% of white women are whores.
>>17957984
It's a stereotype that women only write books about sex. Not only does this fit the stereotype, but she bothered to bring down an entire religion for the sake of sex and hedonism and got #1 bestseller.

>> No.17958012

>>17957993
>she bothered to bring down an entire religion for the sake of sex and hedonism and got #1 bestseller
How is this not based?

>> No.17958021

Toxic Islamophobia needs to stop.

>> No.17958022

>>17958012
maybe if you're a tranny and porn addict

>> No.17958026

>>17958022
Whether your women are religious or not I still fuck them, Mo.

>> No.17958039

>>17957887
>I believe in God but I deny his law which by necessity, I have to believe is the highest and most important

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>>17958026
.t

>> No.17958059

>>17957932
English used to have that sound as well.

>> No.17958066

>>17958057
Best you can do? Moroccan women smell like cheetos btw.

>> No.17958125

>>17957829
And now they can get black out drunk and get rammed by random chads in club bathrooms and work meaningless HR jobs instead. God women are stupid.
>>17957993
Fuck off browncel. Back to your desert shithole.

>> No.17958137

Islam is right about women.

>> No.17958154

>>17957774
>have liberal capitalist trading empire history since forever
>exist in 2021
>be surprised you have the same cultural aspirations as the US or Korea
South Africa tried to warn you years ago bra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bdeizHM9OU

>> No.17958159

>>17957977
kek based Moroccan kids

>> No.17958190

>>17958039
>the book that can be interpreted in millions of ways should be obeyed with full certainty!
quran says so much stuff thats changed by its interpreters that its absurd. interpreters will say having sex with a prepubescent girl is allowed in ramadan as long as she doesnt bleed then others will say looking at your wife while having sex with her is haram because sex is sin. they are letting vile people heavily effect both islamic and western media to fit their political narratives and everybody has to obey or you're a "sinner". there are no clear rules right now due to the less efficient/honorable translators and it causes social issues because it allows higher ranking people to hurt the public and causes social degeneration. islam, in its core values isnt bad, just like every religion. however currently the groups that heavily affect the public opinion gain more on opressing others than obeying the laws of Allah. i cant wholeheartedly say i believe in the Quran when people are even changing the words that came out of the Prophets mouth. The rule of only allowing honorable interpreters to comment on the Quran was so that the words couldnt be taken out of context, but it just allowed there to be too many outrageous yet popularized interpretations.

>> No.17958281

>>17958190
Cope with a capital fucking C
There's dispute about any and every law but the fundamental principles are commonly agreed upon
There's disputes in regards to robbery but if you remove someone else's thing using violence, none will fucking dispute that you are a robber
You're inflating minor jurisprudential disputes to defile the fundamental principles of the religion you purportedly believe in
The subservient role of the woman in the house, the right of her husband to discipline her, that Muhammad split the moon in half
No Muslim, acting in good faith, can deny any of the above because every fucking jurist since the beginning of Islam has taken them for granted
Islam also has the proofs of Islam fuckers whose readings are not disputed by anyone
Arabs don't call religion Din randomly

>> No.17958363

>>17957774
The Dutch are known to be significantly mixed with Jews:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Amsterdam
They are basically half Germans, half Jews, which is a horrible combination.
They don't look like other Europeans to me.

>> No.17958388

>>17958281
fuck off. you might claim majority isnt interpreting wrongly but in the end thats your opinion. i have experienced horrible things that were supported by islam due to interpretations and false claims. also
>subservient role of women
>the right to discipline
>Muhammad split the moon in half
im complaining about bastards like you. you will believe all this shit then claim rape is the womans fault, wont share your sacrifices with the poor or wont even fast during ramadan let alone the other required times. how many prayers do you know? do you go to friday prayers even? have you cut your beard ever? its so easy to forget about those then scream about how women are whores for looking the wrong way. youre obviously deluded.

>> No.17958390

>>17957829
She was too based for Islam

>> No.17958407

>>17958021
Toxic Islam needs to stop first

>> No.17958408

>>17957963
>and pedophilia
Proof? And fuck off back to your sandnigger shitcastle, Ahmed.

>> No.17958420

>>17958066
why would you fuck women who smell like cheetos?

>> No.17958427

>>17958420
Ngmi

>> No.17958428

>>17958408
Islam is trash, but traditional values that enforce monogamy are needed. Many religions in the past have lashed and shamed sluts, which is necessary in order to maintain social cohesion. Secularism has become a failure, and its end goal is becoming mongrelized, cultureless golem for Jews, which is what Americans are.

>> No.17958433

>>17958388
Having a high body count makes you undesirable to high value males. Just get stoned by an imam, its less suffering

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>>17958428
No. Flush all that rot out of your head, you weakling.

>> No.17958462

>>17958428
christcuck
>>17958451
whore
>>17958433
incel
>>17958388
libcuck

>> No.17958466

>>17958433
i have no body count anon, and i dress modestly so i know i wont be suffering here nor in the afterlife. you however? if you ever wore anything above the knee or cut your beard, you should be worried about jahannams flames.

>> No.17958469

>>17958451
You are a poseur. You post a bunch of Western children's literature, but you never discuss their themes in any real substantive way. This is because your brain/mind is shit from all the hedonism. You lack contemplative depth or the ability to even create your own artwork. You are a shallow, superficial whore, plain and simple. In an ideal society you would be lashed by priests, purified in the process. I don't care what priest whips you.
My ancient culture was lashing whores since ancient times, if those sources I read were correct. You must learn your place, bitch. If you love nature so much and the idyllic peace and silence to be found therein, then you must quiet your mind and stop being a slut. It is time you get lashed, to push away those evil demons of lust in your mind. Are you read? Are you ready to feel the light and grace of God, you dumb carnal bitch? You will become modest and graceful in the end... You will become pure like Beatrix Potter.

>> No.17958474

>>17958462
I don't like any of the Abrahamic faiths.

>> No.17958507

>>17957993
>.t christcuck trying to cope with the fact that 100% of white women are whores.

Fine, you got me habibi.. guess I'm taking the goatpill now

>> No.17958508

>>17958420
Because they are the white man's choice of chips

>> No.17958510

>>17958466
not how it works you dumb slut

>> No.17958538

>>17958510
Do your parents know you are browsing 4chan instead of filing for unemployment benefits?

>> No.17958569

>>17958469
>My ancient culture
Poseur.

>> No.17958581

>>17958538
I'm at work you dumb slut

>> No.17958597

>>17958510
exactly how it works schizo. you get hell for going to the beach with your knees showing, i go to heaven because i actually do obey most of the rules, i just dont accept that a jobless loser is allowed to beat me, can have multiple wives without their knowledge or that an elementary level truck drivers word is worth two university educated womans'.

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>>17958569
The best Western children's book writers act like sophisticated Victorian or Edwardian ladies, dumb cunt. They have class and are modest. They get solitude in natural scenery without fixating on sex and libertinism the way you do, defiled scum. Your mind is complete and utter trash. You need to be purified, preferably through a nice lashing.

>> No.17958628

>>17958581
>i dont like that the current islamic rules are so up to interpretation that it allows inequality that wasnt previously present. for example, my honor can be broken down publicly by a random mans word.
>not how it works, cope harder! rules are rules interpretation isnt real you dumb slut
>im a virgin
>slut!
ramadan starts at 12th of april anon, have you completed your days from the previous years or do you just prefer to beat your 3 wives under the pretence of "culture"

>> No.17958631

>>17957796
>>17957832
>>17957984
>>17957988
>>17957993
>All women are whores!1!1!1!1
Only jealous incels say this.
Monogamy is unnatural, it is a forced institution to ensure cooperation of the majority of men in society.
But you're not necessary anymore for the fuctioning of society. So time to die alone incel.
LDAR

>> No.17958634

>>17958597
>you get hell for going to the beach with your knees showing
wrong
>i just dont accept that a jobless loser is allowed to beat me, can have multiple wives without their knowledge or that an elementary level truck drivers word is worth two university educated womans
that's the rules, deal with it
also why do you flex your edumakayshun, slut? muhammad didn't go to college and he was better than you (or me)
and why is a truck driver worse than you

>> No.17958636

>>17958508
Wrong, I hear nigs and wannabe-nigs talk about hot cheetos all the time.
White man's chip is probably kettle cooked salt and vinegar, something like that.

>> No.17958642

>>17958636
Well consider me a nigger for plowing nafri women then.

>> No.17958643

>>17958631
you know what's also natural? cancer

>> No.17958649

>>17957774
As always, the question is: What's her endgame for when she hits the wall in 5 years (or sooner, should one of her tribesmen decide to straighten her out with some acid to the face) and realizes that she has nothing to offer to both men looking for someone to jizz on and men looking for someone to start a family with?

>> No.17958650

>>17958631
>Monogamy is unnatural
People like you deserve to be executed.
Either monogamy or polygamy is the best for civilization. I prefer monogamy, but I see value in polygamy too.

>> No.17958655

>>17958628
>>17958597
This wounds the durka

>> No.17958659

>>17958643
Funny that you say that, for cancer is a perversion of nature, a faulty system overreproducing. Just like monogamy :^)
>>17958650
Polygamy+generalized inceldom is the future.
Incels will be literally bred out of existence.

>> No.17958667

>>17958631
Monogamy has an evolutionary advantage you fucking idiot. It’s not easy to raise a child on your own or convince an entire community to help you, so it’s necessary to tie down one man to receive the benefits from him. This is still true today, except it’s beta bucks that get to raise alpha fucks child

>> No.17958668

>>17958659
Polygamy has worked in many ancient civilizations, but a monogamous society transitioning to it will lead to cultural destabilization.
Both monogamy and polygamy are fine. They can actually coexist. I do not think polyandry or polyamory work though.

>> No.17958673

>>17958655
not really, christshit

>> No.17958678

>>17958659
I like firing my pirate cannon in women but monogamy leads to a surplus of incels which will inevitably rise up against their betters out of envy.
We used to solve this problem by sending them to die in wars.

>> No.17958681

>>17958634
its literally a rule that men cant show above their knees whore, learn the rules before you defend them. also a truck driver isnt worse than me, the point was "elementary level" but of course you cherry pick and decide on the narrative that fits you. leave lit if you cant even understand a basic sentence and its intented meaning

>> No.17958687

>>17958634
>>17958659
Polygyny? Maybe, it can have a place under certain conditions. Polyandry? LOL

>> No.17958692

>>17958681
>its literally a rule that men cant show above their knees
yes and? it's a minor sin you dumb slut

>> No.17958698

>>17958668
Note, I meant to say monogamy and polygyny can both work*, but polyandry and polyamory will destroy civilization*.

>> No.17958699

>>17958673
Who's the angry little wog?

>> No.17958709

>>17958699
your mom

>> No.17958713

>>17958681
Are you a female muslim? Hot desu

>> No.17958730

>>17957774
I've read the first chapter, the style is pretty terrible.

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>>17957774
>Why are Dutch authors and Dutch taste in literature so shit? What went wrong Dutchbros?
It is the Netherlands, my friend. It is by far the most degenerate country in the entire modern West. The fact that a book about a harlot who abandoned her faith for hedonistic degeneracy is the number one bestseller there should meet your expectations, not surprise you.

>> No.17958773

>>17957774
She got famous because she is a self-hating whore. Only way for non-Dutch people to become famous in this country is to ridicule your heritage and religion.

>> No.17958789

>>17958678
Monogamy solves the incel problem by forcing men and women to match 1 to 1. A lack of monogamy allows multiple women to be captured by a single men lowering their supply and leaving many low quality males unpaired. The West was able to deal with the incel problem for so long by forcing men and women to pair 1 to 1 and allowing a small amount of high functioning incels to acquire status via the clergy. Neither of these things are present in our society anymore

>> No.17958794

>>17958678
how does monogamy lead to a massive surplus of unmarried men? I know this is /lit/ and not /sci/ but basic maths man.
>>17958668
Of course its going to lead to destabilisation, but with how much the average incel is porn addicted, it isnt going to lead to major revolutions.
>>17958761
the dutch have an extreme off-hand tolerance. Combined this with the remnants of pillarisation and you have hard line puritans and literal sodom living less than 100km from each other (dutch bible belt <> randstad). These people seldomly interact with each other and as long as you do not intrude on others, you can do what you want.

>> No.17958796

>>17958761
>>17958773
That's because the Dutch are half-Germans, half-Jews, which is a horrible mix. They are significantly mixed with Jews, especially near Amsterdam.

>> No.17958803

>>17958794
When you say polygamy, you are referring to polygyny, correct? Not polyandry, which is bad?

>> No.17958813

>>17957774
I hope the author gets slaughtered

>> No.17958824

>>17958803
Yeah
polygamy is 99% of the time polygyny.
youre a pedantic autist if you need it to be defined

>> No.17958853

>>17958824
>youre a pedantic autist
I am superior to you in all regards. You don't want to make an enemy out of me.

>> No.17958876

>>17957896
Your logic makes no sense. Western women are even bigger whores, and no one forces them to be prude.

All Dutch books are about sex. It is the only thing the people in this country want to read, it seems. Television is like that too, I can't watch TV with my parents because we get bombarded by ads promoting adultery (I'm serious, on of them is a website called secondlove.nl). You can't be a part of the Dutch community without turning into a sex-addict whore yourself. The poor girl who wrote this book also got brainwashed into thinking her monogamy is a bad thing. She tweeted racist far-right stuff calling Turkish people inferior.

>> No.17958894

>>17958650
The best society would be monogamish

>> No.17958906

I mean, this is not just a European thing. If you make religion and culture into nothing more than a set of strict rules that a girl is supposed to follow just because, and at the same time try to raise her in a society which constantly offers her personal freedoms, she'll choose the freedoms. The only way to avoid that is to raise the girl with the best intentions and try to have her develop a true love for her religion. That's hard to do, and after a certain point the parents can only do so much.

>> No.17959000

>>17958794
>>17958789
Sorry I meant polygamy

>> No.17959010

>>17958876
>Western women are even bigger whores
Why think in absolutes?

>> No.17959065

>>17958876
>Western women are even bigger whores,
>All Dutch books are about sex.
t. cosmopolitan deathnic incel
western women are the least whorish of all women
not all dutch books are about sex
have sex incel

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>>17959065
>western women are the least whorish of all women

>> No.17959145

>>17959085
Imagine falling for kike propaganda

>> No.17959199

>>17958190
>islam, in its core values isnt bad
agree to disagree, lol

>> No.17959219

lip fillers ALWAYS looks like trash

>> No.17959223

>>17958681
I want to marry you

>> No.17959246

>>17958681
Good god /lit/ is really done for. As if browncels weren't enough we get their imbred camel-looking whore sisters too.

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>>17959246
>Your sister has OnlyFans
>Your sister has TikTok
>Your sister has Tinder
>Your sister listens to Cardi B
>Your sister says "once you go black, you never go back"
>Your sister mocks you for watching a Ben Saphiro video once and calls you an alt-right incel.
You can't compete.

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>>17959065
>western women are the least whorish of all women

Okay bro.

>> No.17959393

>>17959286
hope she sees this bro.

>> No.17959401

>>17959393
She's his sister and wife, of course she's gonna see it. But she cant read so it doesnt matter.

>> No.17959437

>>17957774
Oh no no no, we got too cocky muslimbros, now our wahmen also want to be promiscuous, use birth control and have unrealistic expectations about marriage ITS OVER

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17959502

>>17959065
>western women are the least whorish of all women

>> No.17959509

>>17959437
The Muslims came to Europe, planning to claim in and converting European society into one that fits their world-view. Perhaps they will. But the critical mistake the Muslims made was thinking that they were immune to that strange beast that lurks in the European soul. They changed Europe, yes, but Europe changed them. It mutated their beliefs, planted strange and discordant ideas in the minds of their children, and with the thousand needles of modernity, began draining their faith and ideology of its vigor. In essence, Europe was a trap, one they marched into. We will have to wait and see if in the end, it is Islam and not Europe which is irreversibly changed.

>> No.17959630

>>17958668
>Polygamy has worked in many ancient civilizations,
really? tell me the ones besides the kings and high nobles. monogamy has been the standard for everyone else besides kings and such.

>> No.17959667

>>17958408
Netherlands have been known for their pedophilia for years. In the seventies you could openly buy child porn magazines (called, yes /lit/, Lolita), the aoc notably was 12 until 2002, and there was a nambla-like political party. If anything it has only decreased in recent years thanks to american-style sjw'ism.

>> No.17959681

>>17958508
voetbalcheeto's terug, nu!

>> No.17959688

>>17959437
>now
refer to >>17957796

>> No.17959694

>>17959509
>The Muslims came to Europe, planning to
The Muslims has a plan?

>> No.17959724

>>17959630
I am a theocratic monarchist and do believe we need to go back to having kings and high nobles. Peasants should know their place on the hierarchy, and their voices don't matter.

>> No.17959728

>>17959694
In real life? Probably not. My post was supposed to be a meme passage reminiscent of a group of people in a horror novel buying house and trying to remodel it, only to discover an eldritch monster in it was infecting their minds.

>> No.17959741

>>17959724
>Peasants should know their place on the hierarchy, and their voices don't matter
...
And you will be ad nobleman? If it's any comfort, we're headed that way with the whole rise of megacorporations and the like. Bezos is a poor king but he's the one it looks like we'll have.

>> No.17959753

>>17957887
>in islam if you completely fit the rules it feels like your life only exist to make children and clean the house for your husband. its not being able to do group projects with your classmates, being asked to change classes because half the class is male, thinking all men will ever do is rape you and constantly being afraid and not being able to understand they are human beings that can think before they act. its having to talk around in baggy clothes because someones accusation is more powerful than your word
this sounds like kind of a downer but have you realized that in the absence of this, my entire civilization has become sodom and gomorrah on a global scale? i am confident that when god finally demands payment in full for our endless list of transgressions that we will hit the ground with such force we'll be lucky if even cockroaches survive

>> No.17959774

>>17959753
>i am confident that when god finally demands payment in full for our endless list of transgressions that we will hit the ground with such force we'll be lucky if even cockroaches survive
The Abrahamic vision of God as this vengeful, almost hateful being seeking to exact punishment on His creations is so far removed from what I think of when I say "God" that I am amazed we are talking about the same being.

>> No.17959783

>>17959774
Your opinion is largely irrelevant.

>> No.17959799

>>17958876
>She tweeted racist far-right stuff calling Turkish people inferior.
source?

>> No.17959808

>>17959774
>hateful
wrathful yes, but not hateful. one who cares for somber oaths and Commitments over fleshly pleasure. in and for itself.

>> No.17959812

>>17959741
I wish I had a book listing the stories of the lineage of my grandfathers, so that I could feel better about myself when I find out I am the bastard son of a great king.

>> No.17959823

>>17959753
>my entire civilization has become sodom and gomorrah on a global scale?
it hasnt though. most people are totally normal. get off the web and stop watching porn

>> No.17959842

>>17959823
funny because watching porn is normal

>> No.17959857

>>17959799
Not him, but someone told me she used to say things that a liberal would consider far-right, but that she renounced all these statements recently and became more liberal. She probably worships Ataturk.

>> No.17959883

>>17959753
please learn about people. go outside. think critically. maybe research some political theories? you dont have to. just dont just slap what you read on pol and claim thats your original thought.

>> No.17959910

Lol if you don't believe in God, why wouldn't you be a hedonist? Based

>> No.17959926

>>17959910
Based short lasting pleasures until you become a childless roastie. By the way, she got kicked out of her parents house, renounced by her family and is forced to hide in hotels, because of threats. THAT is based, indeed.

>> No.17959944

>>17959926
Now wait for her to get to the US, find a guy that actually loves her, marry him and be happy forever after. Keep seething faggot, women aren't just for breeding.

>> No.17959959

>>17959944
Yikes.

>> No.17959991

>>17959959
Did you just yikes on a fucking japanese hentai forum? Lmao imagine eating hairy clitless pussy all your life and praying to a literal false God. Read the NT, Jesus warned everyone against false prophets and people still fell for a warmonger's delusions

>> No.17959994

>>17959944
You're right, they're for doing housework too

>> No.17960000

>>17959383
>>17959502
>heh they dont say they are whores so they aren't
how dumb are you
women all over the world are whores, and non whites are the biggest.

>> No.17960043

>>17959944
>find a guy that actually loves her, marry him and be happyforever after
Nice fairy tale, but it's probably going to end up with her fucking 100 other nobodies and then when 30-35 and hit the wall, she will find some beta cuck to provide her security and probably cheat on him and other future husbands a few times. Go back to r/childfree, protestant retard.

>> No.17960054

>>17957932
You’ve never heard of Turkish have you faggot?

>> No.17960063

>>17958692
>its not a sin
>t-thats not how it works!
>its a minor sin! y-youre a slut!!
if you keep whining you might fool a woman but you wont ever be able to fool Allah.
thats exactly how it works, women are asked to wear a hijab, no jewelry etc, men are asked to never wear above knee and under the ankle, never cut their beards etc. this is easy information to find anywhere. what, did you think men had no rules to abide by? anyways, your argument became null the minute you started calling me a slut. obviously you have nothing to add. if you stop giving empty (you)'s maybe you can leave with your honor intact (no matter how little of it you had).

>> No.17960064

>>17960043
This is what you think because you spend all your time on a fucking computer. People aren't that awful and the world is more than the internet, go outside

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>>17959799
Probably everyone in here is Dutch anyway so I won't try to translate it but she is spewing some far-right bullshit about Europe losing its identity because of foreigners and she also says foreigners are stupid. She probably thinks she's the exception.

>> No.17960150

>>17960128
Waar is de leugen?

>> No.17960163

>>17957774
>immigrants remain muslims
NOOOOOOO HOW DARE YOU DESTROY THE WEST
>immigrants leave islam
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO BITCHES WHORES AND DEGENERACY

>> No.17960166

>>17960064
This is reality. Statistically, more than the half of western marriages result to divorces - which will probably be an even worse number for the zoomer generation. Western women simply have a lot of hookups before marriage. And cheating is prominent in modern society, in fact, in the country she resides (Netherlands) it's even being promoted and advertised. If you watch Dutch TV there's a big chance you'll see commercials about cheating with your partner.

>> No.17960185

>>17960063
The hijab is in the quran, slut. Stop this nigger-like "clapping back" and accept defeat.

>> No.17960188

>>17959857
>she used to say things that a liberal would consider far-right
probably just normal sensible things, then
>>17960128
>>17960128
she's not wrong
>she also says foreigners are stupid. She probably thinks she's the exception.
>She probably thinks she's the exception.
wow, so you think most foreigners are stupid? that's pretty racist anon

>> No.17960201

>>17957774
Hot take: this is a good thing because MENA bitches are hot and we need more of them in the secularized to porn pipeline. Mia Khalifa amirite? XD

>> No.17960214

>>17960128
>spewing some far-right bullshit about Europe losing its identity because of foreigners and she also says foreigners are stupid.
You a cuck or browncel?

>> No.17960230

>>17960201
European porn is only disgusting shit like legalporno, german goo girls or premium bukkake.

>> No.17960238

>>17960214
Europe never had an identity, amerishit.

>> No.17960243

>>17960128
>identiteit kapot
>verwaterde identiteit
Says the verkaaste kech.

>> No.17960252

>>17960243
verwijder jezelf, abdul

>> No.17960255

>>17959991
Because he is a true prophet. He is the seal of the prophets. No religion declared this but Islam.

>> No.17960268

>>17960128
She is 100% correct. Browncels and their "white" handlers seething because one of their own said it.

>> No.17960270

>>17960252
Hollandse meisjes kunnen geen eens een zin vormen op Twitter zonder voor de helft Engels te praten en jullie zijn half Indo. Jullie hebben niet echt een identiteit.

>> No.17960272

This thread is supremely entertaining. It seems that Muslim women are not quite as conservative and submissive as the average /pol/tard would like to believe.

>> No.17960288

>>17960270
je klinkt als een homofiel

>> No.17960301

>>17960272
Muslims are cucks for their women. In countries where the laws aren't bronze age tier their women fuck a few whities before getting their hymen restored (or not at all) and marrying some abdul.

And it's only going to get worse for muslimcels once intermarriage loses its taboo mark. It's already happening as we speak, the stern fatherly figures are dying out and their women will slut it up too.

>> No.17960318

>>17960272
Women cannot be conservative. All women are whores. Refer to >>17957796

>> No.17960340

>>17960272
She isn't muslim

>> No.17960354

>>17960340
Supreme cope.

>> No.17960361

>>17960272
Dutch muslims aren't conservative at all. They're probably more degenerate than Dutch natives, but incredibly agressive when it comes to keeping up appearances. They care more about PR than prayer.

>> No.17960366

>>17960354
She never declared herself as a muslim in her past nor has she ever promoted Islamic values. She has always been a centrist pro-Ataturk secularist.

>> No.17960382

>>17957932
Old Frisian and angle, saxon languages etc are very close you retard

>> No.17960393

>>17960366
Very convenient ;)

>> No.17960397

>>17960361
This guy is coping. Native Dutch people are worldwide known to be the most, most degenerate people on earth. The muslims in the Netherlands are way more conservative than the Dutch and this is one of the reasons the liberal right wing parties PVV gets so much votes. Amsterdam has an Islamic elementary school that teaches children that homosexuals and adulterers should be killed for fuck's sake. Muslims are our only hope.

>> No.17960415

>>17960397
No, you're only hope is to accept me as a prophet. I am better than Jewsus, M*hummad, M*ses, and all Semitic trash. Why not just accept me as a prophet? I can set all things right and more.

>> No.17960424

>>17960415
>you're
your*
Even prophets make typos.

>> No.17960426

>>17960415
Muhammad was the last prophet, it's as simple as that really.

>> No.17960445

>>17960397
lmao ur delusional

>> No.17960449

>>17960426
Nope, he was delusional and schizophrenic unlike myself. Muhammad was a dirty Bedouin.
All of you Semites are narcissistic trash.

>> No.17960459

>>17960449
He wasn't a bedouin you retard, bedouins are nomads and he was a city slicker from Mecca.

>> No.17960467

>>17960397
Bro this is honestly embarrassing.. You sound like someone who just hates modern society and norms and is desperately trying to find someone who can stop it.

>> No.17960472

>>17960459
Doesn't matter, I am better. My revelation is true, his was false. Just drop your traditions and follow mine instead.
I can end the issues with whoredom and more. I really am the best and brightest.

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>>17960467
Yeah, I prefer the divine truth and its natural traditions over the degenerated Dutch culture of prostitution, homosexuality, feminism, communism, drugs and hypersexualization. Why is that bad?

>> No.17960488

>>17960230
what about the fairly tame massage "art"porn?

>> No.17960493

>>17960230
Still better than amerishart porn where the male actor struggles to get hard the entire scene and only drips two little cum drops on the girl's face for the inevitable facial ending.

>> No.17960514

>>17960482
It's not "bad", it's just... people like you remind me of someone trying to stop a tsunami with their hands. It's not going to happen, and progress (whether you consider it progress or not) will run everyone who stands its way over. If countries like Iran and Saudi Arabia are liberalizing, no matter how slowly, what makes you think you can turn the clock back in Europe?

>> No.17960527

>>17960514
Iran will become hardcore prudish Zoroastrian monarchy. Thots will be lashed by mobad out in the public just like good old Sassanian times.

>> No.17960546

>>17960397
reminder
you're posting this on 4chan

>> No.17960564

>>17960514
Funny. So you think the Germans (and others) were stupid for trying to destroy the Weimar Republic and its degeneracy? If you're passive and defeatist you will never make it. Iran and Saudi-Arabia are indeed liberalizing, which is why the source of this liberalism needs to be destroyed, because the liberalism comes from outside these countries. You don't need to cut the tentacles, because they'll regrow - you need to attack the octupus in his brain, which is located in the US and Western Europe. If these countries were to Islamize succesfully, or white conservatism would be stronger, then the other countries will revert back to their traditionalism.

>> No.17960581

>>17960564
>islamization is the solution
lol no, just destroy the left

>> No.17960597

>>17960581
both the right and the left are the problem actually, they're both liberal

>> No.17960601

>>17960514
And who is going to destroy the left? The biggest portion of western right wingers are liberals and culturally left themselves. Muslims are the biggest conservative group in Europe (bigger than fascists, monarchists etc), so they can be the only ones who can undermine liberalism and the left. And if succesfully destroyed, how will you avoid getting to the point you were before as any non-muslim still embraces modernity and progress? Islam is the only solution.

>> No.17960607

>>17960601
I ment to tag >>17960581

>> No.17960609

>>17960564
>then the other countries will revert back to their traditionalism.
But this simply isn't true. You make the mistake of thinking liberalism has a single source. Certainly, at one point it did. But now? What are you going to do, Islamify/Christianify the West? Cool, what about all the hardcore feminists in Korea and LatAm, many of whom are far more radical than those in the West? What about the liberal attitudes in India and SEA, in China (they aren't the trad paradise many seem to think)? And what about the younger generations in MENA, who trend more and more liberal?

You aren't fighting a monster with tentacles that can be beaten, which is the mistake you and others on the conservative spectrum seem to make. You are trying to hold back a tide. You are trying to convince hundreds of millions of people who see Liberalism, with all its flaws, as superior, that they are wrong. You can fight a monster, but you can't fight a tsunami.

>> No.17960611

if montaigne started palavering about liberty you phonies would lap it up, but when someone confronted with the actual lack thereof tries to free herself, suddenly you start moaning about your hurt sensibilities

>> No.17960683

>>17960609
All things you're saying now are still problems from western liberalism. Korea and others also have been liberalized thanks to the west. They're all from the western era of enlightement and not to forget its propaganda tools like the western (social) media, western Hollywood etc. China is the only non-western problem that should be considered a threat, but once the Middle-Eastern, Islamic Asia and the Western teams up - it's not really a threat anymore. People who lived during communism usually abandoned communism after its downfall. Why is it that "hundreds of millions" of people of fascist countries abandoned fascism after its downfall? Why did Turkey after 100 years of extreme enforced liberalism and secularism still managed to get an Islamist president? Why is liberalism an unique case? Progress will destroy humanity anyway, thanks to the technological advanced society, so another Dark Age is inevitable - but can be avoided.

>> No.17960849

>>17960185
you're like a brick wall. fuck off off /lit/ and go back to his or pol

>> No.17961000

>>17960683
>Why is liberalism an unique case?
Because by and large, liberalism has lead to economic growth and material wealth, especially in a capitalist system, which at this point is that the world operates on. Take the example of Saudi, for example. I'm sure the Salafis hate that MBS is pushing women to join the workforce. But in our economic system, he has to. Leaving half of the workforce at home is foolishness, it handicaps the country's economy. And for what, religion? Religion almost always plays second fiddle to wealth. Thus, we see that for purely economic reasons, MBS is right in pushing women into the workforce, even though this brings him into conflict with the way religious forces in Saudi society see the role of women. Capitalism pushes liberalism, and liberalism leads to the further spread of capitalism and the erosion of systems which could oppose it. As a result, liberalism is a political force much stronger than others. Can people like Erdoğan or Trump come into power? Of course, but they only do when economic issues cause discontent. As long as the economic system provides enough money to keep people content, liberalism continues to expand. Eventually, you reach a point like the one in America, where systemic economic issues are sidelined as liberalism grows and controls the country's political dialogue. And then there is no stopping liberalism, because all conflicts essentially become disputes between various factions of liberals. America has reached this point, and Europe is well on its way as well. Sooner, rather than later, the same situation will be the case in MENA, East Asia, etc. The only wrench in all this is China, which has isolated itself from the rest of the world culture. That being said, if you are a Muslim, China is not exactly a friend.

>> No.17961066

>>17961000
Pushing women into the workforce, and other forms of feminism, is just lowering their birth rates to, what seems nowadays to be, almost non-existent. So, thanks to Islam immigration, as long as the mosques stay full, they will surpass anyone in any western country and in worldwide population. This is why in, for example Britain, muslims make almost double the amount of children to average then non-muslims and speculate that they will be the majority in 2050. Islam simply wins thanks to motherhood and is known for having regular Islamic revivings and seeing the Quran and Sharia as core values that people always can lean back to. Liberalism will fall thanks to liberalism. They will fall because of their abandonment of religion and family values, and enforcing homosexuality (40% of UK identifies as non-straight) on their own population. Islam may not be fully resistant, but it is the most resistant, and that is what matters.

>> No.17961127

>>17961066
The birthrates of Muslims in the West falls as well. Furthermore, nearly every Muslim country outside of Subsaharan Africa has seen a plunge in birthrates eerily like the ones seen the in Western world a half-century ago. Are they still higher than those in Western nations? For now, but we have seen this before and it's fair to project that this "demographic transition" will occur everywhere in the Muslim world. (The only exception to this is Iran, which since the 2000s has seen the birthrate rise to replacement levels. I don't know why this happened, but it did).

As for Muslim religious revivals? Well, you will notice they happen only in times of economic or political turmoil. But this is not a Muslim thing, this is a human thing. Rates of religious belief and birthrates always rise in areas of violence or conflict.

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>>17959383
>Philippines in top 5

>> No.17961776

>>17960849
Make me, bitch.

>> No.17961799

>>17960482
>the degenerated Dutch culture of prostitution, homosexuality, feminism, communism, drugs and hypersexualization. Why is that bad?
People like those things. Why are _they_ bad?

>> No.17961829

>>17957887
This is why shariah is necessary. Modernity will eat away at everything it comes into contact with unless violently restrained.

>> No.17961865

>>17961799
>muh semantics
shut up idiot

>> No.17961871

Best sellers just mean that the publisher has a lot of financial backing behind the book. It takes 300 sales a day to read best-seller status so publishers will buy up extra copies to keep their book on the list as a promotional effort.

What I want to know is who is buying 300+ copies a day of this book in order to keep it in bestseller status. It seems like western powers have decided to use feminism as its carrot and stick to divide and conquer islam, but I bet there's a concrete organization with a name and address behind this.

>> No.17961927

>>17961871
>western powers have decided to use feminism as its carrot and stick to divide and conquer islam
Is it really so hard to believe that some Muslim women prefer Western liberalism to Islam

>> No.17961939

>>17961865
What? I'm asking you to tell me what is wrong with prostitution, homosex, drugs, hypersexualization, etc. without meaninglessly referring to "degeneracy" or an appeal to God, which not everybody agrees on

>> No.17962120

>>17957963
there's literally nothing wrong with pedophilia, keep your fucking hags to yourself

>> No.17962136

>>17961939
Don’t like fags or whores simple as

>> No.17962141

>>17957774
the reason islamic terrorism exists in europe

>> No.17962228

>>17962120
hope you enjoy getting V&

>> No.17962234

>>17962228
come and get me in columbia you retard

>> No.17962255

>>17957774
I personally despise islam. To the extent that I wouldn't follow it's rules even if I found out it was the true religion. Sorry but I'd rather go to hell than kneel before Allah.

>> No.17962264

>>17961939
They're puerile distractions from higher goals, akin to watching the Telettubies as a 30 year old.

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>>17962255

>> No.17962403

>>17958853
okay anon time to take ur schizo pills

>> No.17962448

>>17962264
What's wrong with puerility? What is a higher goal?

>> No.17962516

>>17961939
It causes disease and trillions of taxes. Did you know 25% of Gays have AIDS? How much worse is it in other countries. People blame the Coronavirus on someone eating some animal, but how much more deadly and risky is this immorality

>> No.17962546

>>17962516
>trillions of taxes
just stop giving them money
if they want to have aids that's their issue

>> No.17962553

>>17961000
Bro all the production takes place in China, thats communism not capitalism. Imagine enslaving a people that couldnt even defend themselves

>> No.17962563

>>17962546
Exactly, they vote in a government that forces those taxes at gunpoint. the best we can do is shame them, apart from overthrowing the government

>> No.17962852

>>17957774
There’s a heavy asymmetry in the media whereby all content about muslims is centred around muslim women abandoning their faith in some capacity and becoming more westernised as a result. Now you would assume that this type of content would largely be consumed by muslim women since it’s meant to be a reflection of their experience, but this is not the case. The westernisation of muslim women has largely been political rather than via increased promiscuity or increased consumption of alcohol which dominate the narratives displayed in the media or in this book for instance. For example, you’ll seldom find a young muslim woman who isn’t also a staunch feminist. This may sound contradictory to you, but it is surprisingly true. Western muslim women have found ways to integrate their faith without violating it for the most part and thus tend to be repelled by content such as the book in OP. This reaction is most likely because of the sensitivity of the balancing act they perform in order to maintain their internalised westernisation and because the prevailing narratives tend to discount this ubiquitous aspect of the female muslim experience. But who are books like this intended for if not for the subjects of the books themselves? The target demographic seems to be predominantly white women, who tend to disproportionately consume content like this for some reason. It seems that the repressed muslim girl trope is the perfect replacement for the repressed christian girl trope since the latter is no longer as prevalent. But why would free and promiscuous western women care about the supposed trials and tribulations of oppressed muslim women? Probably because it acts as a coping mechanism for the spiritual void that irreligiousness inevitably leads to. This is not even a point about about Islam, but more so a point about religions as a whole. Religions approximate a function of vital utility to human beings that appears extremely complex and hasn’t been totally identified yet. In part, it has something to do with the fact that we have a conscience that is seemingly the result of evolution, but tends to be in conflict with our much older limbic system and has its itch scratched by religious practice. But that’s a topic for another time. In short, the way western women cope with the side effects of their degeneracy is by consuming content that holds that their very degeneracy is the epitome of freedom itself. Now I’ve yet to see a whore that’s happy in her 70s, but I’ve seen many pious and respectable women who carry with them a glow and peacefulness right through old age consistent with a life well-lived in accordance with the teachings of God.

>> No.17962879

>>17962852
uh-oh someone taught the browncel to ape white leftist pseuds.

>> No.17962902

>>17962852
It's a thing I've noticed, where liberal atheists just don't understand religion. Not the concept of religion itself, but why people follow their faith, and why even people who regularly sin are willing to die for their faith. I'm sure that many, many atheists are good people. But the gulf in the way religious and atheist people see the world sometimes seems too wide to cross.

>> No.17962917

>>17962852
>Western muslim women have found ways to integrate their faith without violating it
we all know what happened to the TERFs, if you won't get on board with the agenda sooner or later they'll out you for being counterrevolutionaries. that it hasn't happened yet only means that they are biding their time until more of them fall for their trap

>> No.17963302

>>17962902
Society is riding on coat-tails of Judeo Christian values. My theory on religions is that they first and foremost optimise for the survivability of civilisation. Personal freedoms come second because there frankly is no freedom in death. Now I don’t know how technology factors into this. I haven’t read Kaczynski so maybe some of that is covered in his manifesto, but my suspicion is that technology won’t alleviate the spiritual pitfalls of modern society. The 20th Century should’ve been a hint at what atheistic societies are capable of, but we won’t really know until at least a hundred years from now when we’ve fully abandoned the wisdom of the past.

>> No.17964536

>>17957829
>Dating is forbidden, having friends of the opposite sex is unlawful, dressing nicely and wearing make-up is inappropriate, being outside in the evening is impermissible, watching dirty and immoral movies is unacceptable - not just porn, but also scenes of people making out with each other - pagan celebrations aren't allowed, you can't work with males and neither can you party or visit festivals.

lads im starting to think guenon was onto something