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Classes start next week and I am very excited about it. What does /lit/ recommend me? Books I should read, subjects to get more into, subjects to consider as trash and ignore, etc

>> No.17949328

>>17949314
Don't

Study something which have a job prospect when you're finished. I'm not even being an asshole. You'll regret it when you're finished. Philosophy is something you can easily study as a hobby.

Pick something that will get you a job.

>> No.17949342

>>17949328
Now, now, maybe OP is a trust fund baby. It's not like they said they want to hunt unicorns or become a professor or anything truly impossible.

>> No.17949371

>>17949328
I've already thought about this a lot anon, and the thing is there ir literally nothing else that motivates me enough to attend college for. If I don't quit in the next years or become succesful enough to work in universities (I live in latin america so the standards are not that high here), at least in my country philosophy is mandatory in high school so, guess I can become a teacher to underages. Quite shitty if you ask me but not the end of the world

>> No.17949384

>>17949371
Teaching high school kids sounds like the most likely outcome, it's also an honorable job anon.

>> No.17949402

> excited
If you only knew how bad things truly are.

>> No.17949473

>>17949402
how has been your experience anon

>> No.17949477

Get a lot of pussy early. Seriously.

>> No.17949484
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>>17949477
this

>> No.17949512

>>17949371
Is your country France or Rumania?

>> No.17949523

>>17949512
He said Latin America, not Latin Europe.
Mostly likely Brazil, Costa Rica, or Uruguay since these are the three last countries in that sphere that still have something resembling an economy after the lockdown

>> No.17949547
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>>17949523
Yes, I am from Brazil

>> No.17949564

>>17949314
Suck a lot of dicks just like all other students do.

>> No.17949568

>>17949547
God, I hope you chose just the right uni. There’s a 85% chance you’ll be indoctrinated into being a degenerate leftist, it goes to 98% if you’re mixed race. Philosophy in Brazil is like Sociology (social studies) in the US, leftism camp, which is a shame since it’s so important

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>>17949314
Unless you are rich, don't.

A degree in Philosophy only opens a pathway into politics and you need to be well off for that.
If you don't have the money or don't want to go into politics don't do it.
You can read all the philosophy you want for free at the library. (what I did while getting a STEM degree).

If you want actual tips, start with the Greeks. It's not a meme.
Platos Republic is the blueprint for all western government.
(See why this flows into politics?)
Your professors are your future job references so don't piss them off, even if you don't agree with them write things that they will like.
Stick to whatever politics they are pushing and you can land yourself a cozy job working as some politicians staffer.

Oh lastly make sure you are at a good university.
Your professors are the key to getting employment so a philosophy degree from bumfuck nowhere university is as worthless as toilet paper.

>> No.17949605

>>17949568
I entered the best uni in the country, so things are not as bad as they could be, but I am very aware of the leftist tendencies. Seems to me that the classes themselves don't have too much marxist (and other leftists) influence, but man, you'd be disgusted to see my classmates and the other students. Hope I can just deal with it and ignore them most of the time so I can keep my own way there

>> No.17949619

get an excavator license on the side

>> No.17949650

>>17949328
I studied a glorified trade and regret every second of my life. I did give anything to be able to study philosophy in an academic setting.

>> No.17949669

>>17949650
>I did give anything to be able to study philosophy in an academic setting.

Then why dont you? All the source material is available for free on the internet. I read plato/aristotle/kant/Nietz/Smith/Hitler/Marx/Confucius/Maimonides/Stirner/etc. in my free time while getting my STEM degree at the uni library.

IMO studying philosophy in a classroom that restricts what you can ask and think is only a hindrance.

>> No.17949675

>>17949669
The ability to have my understanding and ideas tested by experts in the field is something I can’t recreate on my own. I read books and articles in my spare time, but it isn’t the same as studying in an academic environment.

>> No.17949687

>>17949669
>I read plato/aristotle/kant/Nietz/Smith/Hitler/Marx/Confucius/Maimonides/Stirner/etc
This isn’t what you’d be doing if you were a philosophy student. I’m more interested in the things philosophy majors learn in their classes than just rereading the classics.

>> No.17949702

>>17949314
I recommend you focus on the classes and required reading instead of what a bunch of idiots on 4channel have to say about it.

>> No.17949728

>>17949687
>I’m more interested in the things philosophy majors learn in their classes than just rereading the classics.
I took 2 of those classes for gen ed.
Instead of reading the source material you are just reading from a book that summarizes all of the source material and pushes whatever ideology is popular.

>>17949675
>The ability to have my understanding and ideas tested
Is something you can't do until you have the fundamentals down.
If the only background you have is TV and random internet browsing your ideas are guaranteed to be shit and already refuted. Everyone builds off Plato. Rome was built off plato, the communists built off plato, the fascists built off plato, the entire American empire is built off plato.If you haven't read the Greeks and wan to practice philosophy your an architect who can't do math.

>> No.17949731

>>17949328
fpbp

>> No.17949741

>>17949728
That's not to say you can't disagree with the greeks. You can say they were complete shitheads. But they are the foundation for the current world and you have to work with that or nobody is going to understand what the fuck you are talking about or immediately have better arguments that people are familiar with coming from the greeks.

>> No.17949750

>>17949741
But the main point of this is a philosophy degree is a gateway to politics, unless you hope to become a philosophy teacher at the end of it there is nowhere else for you to go with that degree.

Just know what you are signing up for.

>> No.17949755

>>17949728
>I took 2 of those classes for gen ed.
>Instead of reading the source material you are just reading from a book that summarizes all of the source material and pushes whatever ideology is popular.
Philosophy students do more than just study the history of philosophy.
Reading Plato is is good, but that’s not the same as being taught and tested about contemporary philosophical discourse by experts in the field will always yield better results. You’re engaging with philosophy as a hobby, which is great, but you’re doing doesn’t cover a what a philosophy student would learn over the course of completing a degree.

>> No.17949823

>>17949741
>But they are the foundation for the current world
How?

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>>17949823
In Plato's republic he step by step described how to create different types of societies and how people would act within them.

Do you what North Korea's official name is?
Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

Everyone and I mean everyone, from the Asians, to the Anglos, to the Africans builds there society based off plato's utopian republic model.

>> No.17949944

>>17949314
Hope you have fun!
my classes start in September, very excited!

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>>17949314
>Subjects to get into
Logic, philosophy of science, metaethics (avoid anything political)
>Books to read
Introductions to logic and critical reasoning, then whatever your set readings are
>Focus on
Go to tutorials/class discussions, any situation where you are analyzing and arguing about the material you have read. Study what the professors are doing when they argue against others.

The real point and the secret value of studying philosophy is to learn how to destroy other peoples arguments using logic and rationality (not insults, rhetoric or political bullshit). If you can learn that skill and weaponize it you will be an asset to a wide variety of businesses and organizations. I don't regret for a second majoring in philosophy, it has opened so many doors.

A person who just reads the philosophy classics in their spare time is like someone who buys a gun but never fires it. Truly studying philosophy is like going to the shooting range every day and practicing until you're a good shot.