/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.17893325]

>China is adopting the literary culture the west abandoned
Yeah I'm thinking it's Chinese Century time

[Anonymous No.17893338]

>Finnegans Wake is a bestseller in China

Actual, native English speakers cannot understand that fucking book. This has got to be pure status-climbing on the part of the Chinese. It's like how they'll buy ten thousand dollar bottles of wine from Bordeaux despite having no palate for wine at all. They don't care about its quality, they just care that it's expensive and they can use it to show off.

[Anonymous No.17893344]

>>17893338
>coping this hard

[Anonymous No.17893379]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibalism_in_China
>Cannibalism is a taboo in nearly every culture. But not in China. Tell us about the history of “gourmet cannibalism”—and how Mao unleashed a new wave of famine-driven cannibalism during the Cultural Revolution.
>During the Cultural Revolution, privately owned farms were collectivized. These techniques did not work, though, which resulted in a lot of people starving. Many people across China were reduced to incidents of what is known as “starvation cannibalism,” similar to the Donner Party. Families were often reduced to trading their children for the children of their neighbors, so they wouldn’t wind up killing and eating their own kids.
>China is a special case because it was never exposed to the taboo against cannibalism. This is a Western taboo. If your culture dictates that, if you’re an emperor, you’re allowed to eat human body parts, then there’s nothing wrong with that. There are numerous descriptions of emperors and other members of the imperial court enjoying humans as a type of food, prepared in all different ways.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lychee_and_Dog_Meat_Festival
>Workers string up the animals by their necks and hang them, smash their heads open, or shock and burn them alive in the mistaken belief that dogs who are tortured as they die “taste better.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_ghost_marriage
>The practice leads to reported cases of female corpses being stolen. In 2017–19, it is reported that a black market of female corpses has appeared in the provinces of Shandong, Shanxi and Shaanxi. A female dead body can be sold in the range of several hundred thousands RMB for the purpose of minghun. Even corpses of married, elderly women have become targets of such illegal trade. In 2019 some graveyards in Henan province resort to CCTV cameras and concrete coffins to prevent thefts.[9]

[Anonymous No.17893439]

>>17893338
100%. Everything they do, from Euro-trips to reading western literature is pure showmanship.
>>17893344
It is reality. That store is just another symptom of the problem.

[Anonymous No.17893452]

>>17893344
based chinkland

[Anonymous No.17893458]

>>17893379
cannibalism is actually a very prevalent theme in chinese literature. Lu Xun's book "Diary of a Madman" the main character gradually goes insane and comes to the conclusion that the entirety of chinese civilization could be summed up in the two words "eat people"

[Anonymous No.17893465]

>>17893325
>China is adopting the literary culture the west abandoned

It wasn't abandoned it was taking to it's next logical step which is the reality that we live in today. If you hate China this is good news it means they can't be that far from collapsing after us

[Anonymous No.17893478]

>>17893325
>mfw i see another china thread

[Anonymous No.17893481]

>>17893452
Finally mossad gets off it's ass and learns mandarin

[Anonymous No.17893497]

>>17893325
based af

[Anonymous No.17893523]

>>17893452
uganda be crazy! ha, ha, ha: uganda be kidding me!

[Anonymous No.17893530]

>>17893379
>>17893458

[Anonymous No.17893536]

>>17893481
>Finarry mossad gets off it's ass and rearns mandarin

[Anonymous No.17893541]

>>17893536
we so grad you courd join us for anuddarh passover

[Anonymous No.17893551]

>>17893541
>we so grad you courd join us for anuddarh passover

[Anonymous No.17893557]

>>17893551
make the straw hat tiny like a yarmulke

[Anonymous No.17893570]

>>17893325
In all seriousness, how the fuck do you translate Joyce into an ideogrammatic language?

[Anonymous No.17893578]

>>17893325
Americans are so touchy on this subject of them being a culture-less shopping mall society

[Anonymous No.17893579]

>>17893570
A few years ago somebody posted a mandarin translation of Finnegans Wake. If I remember correctly the appendix was extremely large and just about every word had a handful of annotations.

[Anonymous No.17893580]

>>17893570
Throw some silverware down the stairs and write down whatever combination of "ching" and "chong" you get.

[Anonymous No.17893588]

>>17893578
we also got twerking and popping xans

[Anonymous No.17893589]

>>17893452
>circumcision

cringe

[Anonymous No.17893591]

>>17893578
>you americans

[Anonymous No.17893592]

>>17893325
>China is adopting the literary culture the west abandoned
Ultimately, I envy China. Their media is not devoted to tearing their nation down, they preserve and respect their language and culture, and they seem united. They even seem to be moving in a greener direction with planting forests and the like. They are what I wish America was.

[Fuck China No.17893597]

>>17893325
Fuck China. They're adopting it because they're behind. The entire world is behind the western world basically stuck in the western 1940's

[Anonymous No.17893602]

>>17893338
You're wrong. China is home to literary giants that will reinvigorate the western canon.

RC Waldun is one example among many. https://youtu.be/6qRWrPDNbGw

[Anonymous No.17893604]

>>17893578
Mind sayin that again Chink?

[Anonymous No.17893605]

James Joyce being the shallow signifier sophistication and intellectualism vs marvel movies being shallow signifier of sophistication and intellectualism. choose one

[Anonymous No.17893616]

>>17893578
If Americans had no culture, there would not have been memorial marches for St. George Floyd in Finland and New Zealand.

[Anonymous No.17893628]

>>17893616
This posts makes me feel weary. At times I feel that we had a truly great culture, and then I feel like the American culture I love never actually existed. I wish I was powerful/influential enough to create it.

[Anonymous No.17893642]

>>17893325
How is China so fucking based bros? America needs to adopt Communism and become like them.

[Anonymous No.17893645]

>>17893325
>Yeah I'm thinking it's Chinese Century time
finally

[Anonymous No.17893647]

>>17893616
we DO have culture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94zTrkr5_xY&t=18s

[Anonymous No.17893650]

>>17893338
The first sentence reveals that anglos do exactly what the rest of the post accuses the chinamen of doing.

[Anonymous No.17893652]

>>17893642
>America needs to adopt Communism and become like them.
They became based after Deng Xiaoping moron, the move from communism to quasi-state-captialism is what saved them. We need to copy their nationalist and statist tendencies.

[Anonymous No.17893655]

>>17893652
Exactly. Communism with Chinese Characteristics.

[Anonymous No.17893662]

Yeah I'm thinking its psyops time.
Great thread 50 cent party

[Anonymous No.17893682]

我跪

[Anonymous No.17893688]

>>17893662
Takes your meds

[Anonymous No.17893699]

>>17893688
the absolute state of chink-to-english autotranslate

[Anonymous No.17893704]

>>17893688
*50 cents have been deposited to your bank account.

[Anonymous No.17893710]

>>17893699
Back to /x/

[Anonymous No.17893714]

>>17893704
50 shekels have been deposited into your account

[Anonymous No.17893727]

[Anonymous No.17893728]

>>17893710
>>17893714

[Anonymous No.17893733]

>>17893688
*takes your meds*

[Anonymous No.17893738]

>>17893728
Shut the hell up black nigger dog.

[Anonymous No.17893750]

>>17893727
Racist nonsense . China is better than US shithole - from US citizen who visited.

[Anonymous No.17893752]

>>17893727
Since we’re doing classic ‘American dude goes to foreign countries and is horrified by what he sees’ posts, does anyone have the post where anon goes to South Africa or something and he describes it like a post apocalyptic hellscape full of niggers

[Anonymous No.17893754]

>>17893642
>>17893652
>>17893655
>>17893688
>>17893738
>>17893750
You expect me to believe this shit? Schizos were right

[Anonymous No.17893762]

>>17893754
How is >>17893652 even CCP-shilling? I am saying we need to study what they are doing right and implement it here, not that I am a fan of China.

[Anonymous No.17893763]

>>17893754
Ok CIA nigger

[Anonymous No.17893768]

17893738
>Shut the hell up black nigger dog.

[Anonymous No.17893770]

>>17893752
it might be this one? i have a few more i'll post those

[Anonymous No.17893778]

Reminder American intelligence shills against China. If the American people knew the truth about glorious Chinese socialism they would overthrow their leading class

[Anonymous No.17893780]

>>17893752

[Anonymous No.17893782]

>>17893778
the gigabytes of chinkland gore videos i have on my computer says otherwise

[Anonymous No.17893787]

>>17893452
Wait, they’re making Chinese girls have sex with Africans in China? For what reason?

[Anonymous No.17893790]

>>17893752
last one

[Anonymous No.17893795]

>>17893787
It’s probably sons of African elites.

[Anonymous No.17893798]

>>17893787
for grorious genes and strong child

[Anonymous No.17893806]

>>17893798
Fake bullshit

[Anonymous No.17893811]

Why in the ungodly fuck is this obvious chink thread still up.

[Anonymous No.17893816]

>>17893787
They’re not it’s fake. CIA shills projecting nigger dick obsession onto China

[Anonymous No.17893817]

>>17893325
Based China. This looks comfy as fuck.

[Anonymous No.17893819]

>>17893806
ok chang

[Anonymous No.17893823]

reminder that when you side AGAINST china you're siding WITH western intelligence agencies and western hereditary aristocracy

[Anonymous No.17893827]

>>17893819
They’re going to steamroll black tranny army of the USA.

[Anonymous No.17893834]

>>17893782
Hard to believe with the frequency they get gobbled up by machinery they haven't learnt to be careful or even bother to develop any sort of environmental awareness.

[Anonymous No.17893835]

>>17893827
Why is everthing black blac black niggerdog nigger? Does that prove your shilling more?

[Anonymous No.17893836]

>>17893819
That was when the army and leaders were white. Now it’s niggers led by Jews

[Anonymous No.17893837]

>>17893811
containment
>>17893816
cope

[Anonymous No.17893843]

Holy shit there are literal CCP shills on /lit/.

[Anonymous No.17893849]

>>17893823
>reminder that if you side AGAINSTS glowniggers you're siding WITH glowniggers and glowniggers

[Anonymous No.17893858]

>>17893843
It's been like a week of this shit at least if you haven't noticed.

[Anonymous No.17893863]

>>17893843
it's just a LARP, the best way to start a chink hate thread is to pretend to be from the grorious nation of china

[Anonymous No.17893864]

>>17893849
wrong
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/20/world/asia/china-cia-spies-espionage.html

[Anonymous No.17893876]

>>17893863
nah, fuck off.

[Anonymous No.17893882]

>>17893836

[Anonymous No.17893888]

>>17893864
>um sweaty you need to side with MY glowies because it makes these other glowies mad
don't care bugman chink

[Anonymous No.17893904]

>>17893882
Muh random article proves China is jews
Meanwhile the US government is like 90% kike

[Anonymous No.17893911]

>>17893882
Such a fake article lol. Of course there are not even citations.
>China20
Obsessed

[Anonymous No.17893949]

>>17893325
Cargo cult

>>17893379
Japanese brutalism in WWII was an acquired taste

>>17893452
Decolonize & kill whitey btw

>>17893481
>the belt buckle of the world island girdling One Belt One Road initiative is:

[Anonymous No.17893998]

>>17893733
Give them back bro the doctor said I have schizophrenia!

[Anonymous No.17894027]

Are you kidding me? Would Chinese citizens buy a Western novel of cultural significance even if they couldn't understand it? Of course they would. China loves to pretend, and they love to copy. Look at their architecture for example. China loves to copy inventions of Western nations. They even go so far as to copy cities. Some of these cities are so called "ghost towns", but China does not care, since they seem to have a cultural obsession with copying the West.

China's copy of Paris: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tianducheng

Hallstatt of Austria:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallstatt_(China)

Jackson Hole, Wyoming:
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/12/a-clone-of-my-hometown-exists-in-china/383185/

"Thames Town" of London:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thames_Town

"Holland Town":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaoqiao,_Shanghai

"Sweden Town":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luodian,_Shanghai

"German Town":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anting

"Italian Architecture Town":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pujiang,_Shanghai

A Florence of Italy inspired town:
https://wsimag.com/architecture-and-design/734-florentia-village

Article on Chinese theme park which hosts copies of the Sphinx and Greek Parthenon: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/peoplesdaily/article-3621429/amp/Double-New-theme-park-China-builds-Great-Sphinx-Giza-Parthenon.html

Pic related is copy of London's Tower Bridge, in Suzhou, in China's eastern Jiangsu province. Note that it doesn't have the full functionality to rise as the actual Tower Bridge does.

Copies of the Kremlin, the Tower of Pisa, a copy of Pont Alexandre III, government office buildings which look suspiciously like the White House, St Peter's Basilica and the Vatican, St Mark's Square of Venice the list goes on and on.

See: Original Copies: Architectural Mimicry in Contemporary China for more on this subject

[Anonymous No.17894046]

>>17894027
>the chinese appreciate the western tradition more than westerners do
sounds about right

[Anonymous No.17894064]

>>17893998
I apologise. *gives you your meds*

>>17894046
Trash post. You should be a trash man. You'd get more out of it

[Anonymous No.17894069]

>>17894046
>appreciate
If you're in the "uncreatively stealing and appropriating is the highest form of flattery" camp, then sure Lee

[Anonymous No.17894077]

>>17893344
he's right though

[Anonymous No.17894092]

>>17894046
Their copies are all trash though

>>17894069
If it were flattery then it was a rubbish attempt, because the copies are flat pack furniture compared to grand pieces. A soulless mockery more like

[Anonymous No.17894094]

when you start to froth at the mouth at the mere mention of country then that's how you know you've been psyop'd

[Anonymous No.17894099]

>>17894094
I'm not mad, I'm jealous.

[Anonymous No.17894100]

>>17893602
Kinda getting nick cage vibes from this faggot.

[Anonymous No.17894110]

>>17893647
Oh shit! They actually linked up.

[Anonymous No.17894112]

>>17894094
>>17894099
Boy that was the quickest reply I have ever seen on 4chan. within 15 seconds kek.

[Anonymous No.17894126]

>>17894112
I was going to write something more, but I felt my feelings were pretty succinctly explained with that.

[Anonymous No.17894157]

>>17893325
China is clearly very important for the future of literature, there is already a number of excellent Chinese writers, but you cannot discuss anything even tangentially related to the country here without setting a bunch of people off. Even the statement that China has interesting writers opens you up to vitriol, most likely from people who cannot name a single one.

/pol/-wojaks straight off the bat and some guy up to 'china16.jpg' in his prepared array of anti-China infographics. What the fuck does that have to do with literature?

[Anonymous No.17894160]

so many amerimutts seething in this thread lmao

[Anonymous No.17894168]

>>17894157
Personally, I think it's a reflection of the now-inevitable Cold War II which is either here or soon to be upon us. Maybe if 4channel existed in Cold War I we would have the same reactions to Russian writers.

[Anonymous No.17894169]

>>17894157
Name the writers then

[Anonymous No.17894192]

>>17894168
I would love 4chan in the 60s lol. Imagine Stalinist v Khrushchevite shitflinging

[Anonymous No.17894200]

>>17894027
those are intended to be zoos for the last few whites on the planet after the kalergi-chang plan is completed

[Anonymous No.17894201]

>>17894192
>Cuban Missile Crisis memes
>JFK assassination /pol/ reactions
>Civil Rights Era memes and arguments
What could have been :,)

[Anonymous No.17894208]

>>17894201
>hoax
>mossad
>soros funded

[Anonymous No.17894216]

>>17893591
pictures after fires are so representative lmao

[Anonymous No.17894223]

>>17893338
Correct. The asian brain doesn't function like that of the Frenchman or the German, for example, he has no ability to discern the Sublime nor any capacity for proper introspection.

[Anonymous No.17894230]

>>17893325
Bro I'm wondering how Koreans feel about Joyce, especially considering Korea is pretty much the Ireland of Asia (colonization, sad history, drinking)

[Anonymous No.17894232]

>>17893592
>They are what I wish America was.
Unfortunately for America it’s a nation built on genocide and slavery which makes it very hard to build a unified patriotic populace. China however is built on ancient civilization, proud tradition, and the ideals of socialism and equality, they are perfectly set up to create and maintain patriotism.

[Anonymous No.17894239]

>>17893602
he looks like a female to male trans

[Anonymous No.17894247]

>>17894230
>>17894232
How much do you all get paid? I could use some a nightjob

[Anonymous No.17894248]

>>17893727
>china16.png
Take your meds

[Anonymous No.17894250]

>>17893652
Socialism with Chinese characteristics guided by the light of Marxism-Leninism and the national inspiration of Mao Zedong Thought. We need a socialism with American characteristics, perhaps guided by the national inspiration of figures such as Eugene Debs and MLK Jr.

[Anonymous No.17894251]

>>17894232
The fuck?

[Anonymous No.17894256]

>>17894232
>Unfortunately for America it’s a nation built on genocide and slavery which makes it very hard to build a unified patriotic populace
> What is France
> What was the Colonnes Infernales.
> What was the Vendée
> What is the UK
> What was it's entire fucking bloody history
Jesus fuck how can ricelets be this dumb?

[Anonymous No.17894260]

>>17894250
>We need a socialism with American characteristics
Socialism with McDonalds characteristics

[Anonymous No.17894261]

>>17894232
>Divided populace
For some people thats a feature, not a bug

[Anonymous No.17894287]

>>17893592
>I wish America was a cheap copy of a cheap copy of itself

[Anonymous No.17894292]

>>17894256
France and England are nations which are older than colonialism you fucking retard. And if you haven’t noticed the UK isn’t doing well either. Absolute retard

[Anonymous No.17894293]

>>17894261
uoOOOOOO DID SEM WAN SEI BUG??!

[Anonymous No.17894297]

>>17893727
This tracks perfectly with my experience as well. All asians are devious by nature, but the Chinese (and the Mongol) are above all else in this regard.

[Anonymous No.17894312]

>>17893727
>0.25 mm, aka 1/4 cm
fucking americans lmao

[Anonymous No.17894317]

>>17894292
>France and England are nations which are older than colonialism you fucking retard.
The French Nation was born in 1789 you absolute fucking moron, through the ritual blood sacrifice of the nobility and its supporters at the altar of the young Nation, and was sanctified in front of Satan by the genocide of one of its own province, "be the people there be loyal or traitors, they must all die".
Genocide is literally the best way to found a Nation.

[Anonymous No.17894345]

>>17894317
>The French Nation was born in 1789
The French Revolution didn’t birth the French nation. you’re literally a mong

[Anonymous No.17894374]

>>17894293
kek

[Anonymous No.17894382]

>>17894317
>Genocide is literally the best way to found a nation
based. all the other shit you said is retart-ed tho

[Anonymous No.17894395]

>>17894293

[Anonymous No.17894457]

>>17893570
what if the translator just said fuck it and made it a cool star wars type story and that's why it became a best seller

[Anonymous No.17894476]

>>17894232
Rare is it that I know with 100% confidence that a poster is a shill. You have that certain retarded je ne sais quoi that even a gifted troll cannot imitate.

[Anonymous No.17894480]

>>17894260
can i get an extra order of fat acceptance?

[Anonymous No.17894506]

>>17894476
Schizo. Im not a shill. Yes I’m pushing an agenda, but I am not a shill

[Anonymous No.17894511]

>>17894457
What if trying to translate it befuddled him so much that he accidentally wrote a menard-esque chinese version?

[Anonymous No.17894538]

>>17893452
based 150+ IQ (AKA the jew IQ range) Chinese politburo seeing the writing on the wall and deliberately muttifying their population to be dumb and pliable like amerifats

[Anonymous No.17894595]

>>17893688
Hey, if taking all their meds makes more funny schizo's, I'm all for it.

[Anonymous No.17894602]

>>17893778
Bad bait. Need worse english.

[Anonymous No.17894817]

>>17894345
you know nothing about france. Before the republic most 'frenchmen' didn't even know French.

[Anonymous No.17894887]

>>17894094
This.
Absolutely amazing how people are frothing at the mouth as soon as China is mentioned.

[Anonymous No.17894940]

>>17893338
I agree that this is a pure status climbing for the Chinese, as is almost everything to them. The very concept of art, as it is perceived through western and particularly western eyes, is a complete alien concept to easterners. However, Finnegan's Wake is unironically comprehendible to a native English speaker if you're willing to put in the effort.

[Anonymous No.17894947]

The story of the translation of Finnegans Wake into Chinese is very interesting

[Anonymous No.17894962]

>>17893325
>muh cultural appropriation
>how dare they cast chinks to traditional white Irish roles
i'm so offended I can't even

[Anonymous No.17894967]

>>17893727
Doesn't seem like Japan or even South Korea has this negative reputation. What's the differences between these countries that has allowed this divide to appear?

[Anonymous No.17894969]

>>17894887
stems from a subconcious fear that the West is about to be supplanted in the coming century.

[Anonymous No.17894979]

>>17894967
American intervention in those two countries in the 50s to present has shaped those countries into respectable countries, somewhat anyway, I'm using respectable as compared to China in this case.

[Anonymous No.17894982]

>>17893344
holy based

[Anonymous No.17894986]

>>17894967
they're completely different countries. that's like asking why spain has a different reputation to the uk, despite both being european countries and former empires.

[Anonymous No.17895004]

>>17894967
There's a whole host of reasons but the source can probably be traced back to the purging of the Four Olds during the Cultural Revolution.

No society can not only destroy, but loathe their own culture, while killing millions of their own people in the process through cannibalism and state endorsed murder and not emerge with a fucked up mentality of cultural traumas.

[Anonymous No.17895009]

>>17893592
unironically retarded

[Anonymous No.17895018]

>still pretending Joyce is relevant

[Anonymous No.17895019]

>>17893688
glowie glowie

[Anonymous No.17895022]

>>17893592
This comment is the perfect way to tell that someone has no idea on Chinese history in the slightest.

[Anonymous No.17895024]

>>17894967
couple of things:

in the cultural revolution, the chinese pretty much killed anyone with half a brain. this left only dirt farmers and dumbass works. second is that the chinese are nouveau riche. they've gone from aforementioned dirt farmers to having some measure of wealth in a very short time. material conditions might change, but social attitudes take a good while longer to adjust.

[Anonymous No.17895026]

>>17893338
That's literally how it works in the west as well, art and wine. You are just blind to it because you are part of the crab bucket as well.

[Anonymous No.17895100]

>>17894967
People here in the West have the most superficial knowledge of Korea, just that it's one of the 'good guys' and has all the good things about Asia (safe, high living standards). Korea is hyperconservative and Koreans will go to any extreme to avoid losing face. Bending over backwards just to keep up appearances, the hyperconsumerism in order to look like a success, the need to conform. You'll be excused from most of this if you're a foreigner, but that's because the general attitude to you will be of patronizing condescension, they don't expect any more from you than they would a child. Anyone who isn't ethnically 100% Korean is forever an outsider and will gently excluded. Most Americans would be appalled by what they found living in Korea for even a few months, and would be equally shocked to hear that Koreans don't want them except as a transient novelty to gape at.

If Korea wasn't a US ally it'd be regarded much differently by Americans, although maybe not, as it's not relevant enough to regularly enter consciousness.

[Anonymous No.17895106]

>>17894967
they just have their own foibles to deal with instead.
Koreans are especially fanatical by nature, everything is dictated by religious cults or social justice movements. If you think somewhere like California is bad, you simply have no idea. Not even five years ago their president was impeached after admitting to being a puppet of a cult, she had been indoctrinated at a young age by one of its founder and later his daughter and took advice and even direct orders regarding national policy from her. It's simply no mistake that a place like North Korea exists in the first place.

[Anonymous No.17895112]

the entire strategy for the development of china has been 'copy what made the USA strong, but with more people'

[Anonymous No.17895136]

>>17894947
do tell

[Anonymous No.17895155]

>>17895136
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/feb/05/finnegans-wake-china-james-joyce-hit

https://www.pri.org/stories/2013-01-31/translating-untranslatable-finnegans-wake-chinese

https://www.jstor.org/stable/41429585 (Translator’s article)

[Anonymous No.17895162]

>>17893338
The chinese have a much higher IQ than americans so can understand it more easily.

[Anonymous No.17895188]

>>17893338
Yeah the country puts pygmy marmoset monkeys on their purse as a fashion statement, and turns little turtles and fish in plastic colored water bags doomed to die into keychains as a fashion statement, do not trust China to be serious about anything.

[Anonymous No.17895221]

both the hysterical anti-chinese sentiment and the nauseating sinosimping are so detached from reality that it's really quite disorientating. but while the low IQ xenophobia may be stupid and based mainly on reactions to headlines and memes, at least foreign bad is a natural if unnuanced outlook, whereas the slavish bootlicking of chinese bureaucrats based mainly on reactions to headlines and memes (wowie china train fast) is deeply gay and unnatural. fact: chinese bestsellers are shit like Yuval Noah Harari and self-help books like everywhere else.

[Anonymous No.17895302]

>>17895106
>Not even five years ago their president was impeached after admitting to being a puppet of a cult, she had been indoctrinated at a young age by one of its founder and later his daughter and took advice and even direct orders regarding national policy from her
Isn't this somehow related to that boatful of kids drowning?

[࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇ !KNDYqWRDiE No.17895323]

>>17893325
>China is [PHAGOCYTIZING] the literary culture [THAT THE ANGLOSPHERE] abandoned[.]

[Anonymous No.17895423]

>>17893325

>Statery, prump Buck Murrigan...

[Anonymous No.17895440]

>>17893338
>native English speakers cannot understand that fucking book.
Native English speakers cannot understand many things. High middle-class Chinese are very fluent in English.

[Anonymous No.17895455]

Holy shit mutts seething so hard ITT

[Anonymous No.17895474]

I looked into some Chinese reviews on this. Most of them only regurgitate what the west had said. Others said they don't understand what they've just read, and emphasized that the book is so little understood, even modern scholars have no idea what all the references are. Your average chink seemed to be touring the book because "le difficult read lol". The only interesting article I found was how Chinese was used by Joyce when Joyce barely knew Chinese, and they seemed pretty astounded by that.

[Anonymous No.17895503]

>>17895323
>he thinks continental europe is any different
Major cope

[Anonymous No.17895504]

>>17895474
>Most of them only regurgitate what the west had said

wow, almost as if its a 100 year old text that's been discussed to death in academia!

>Your average chink seemed to be touring the book because "le difficult read lol"

unlike the average american, who are known for the deep knowledge of joyce

[Anonymous No.17895508]

>>17895474
So? At least they're engaging with the text instead of buying 50 shades of grey.

[࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇ !KNDYqWRDiE No.17895512]

>>17895503


?

[Anonymous No.17895522]

>>17895512
Retarded tranny

[࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇ !KNDYqWRDiE No.17895542]

>>17895522


JUST STOP POSTING.

[Anonymous No.17895559]

>>17893823
You can't really pick a side if they're the ones who are doing that for you lol.

[Anonymous No.17895576]

>>17893338
The book is translated into chinese as an experimental avant-garde project fyi.

[Anonymous No.17895581]

>>17893325
They don't understand either, and they never will. Especially in the case of FW, this is 100% pure, unfiltered status peacocking.

t. Chinese

[Anonymous No.17895645]

>>17893911
eh? you can research it all the way back if you want, the kikes have had a hand in china for over a century, who do you think ran the opium import business and funded the ccp

[Anonymous No.17895654]

>>17894201
>JFK assassination /pol/ reactions
you'd have had some who had been there casually posting their photographs and pollaks wondering who that shifty bunch of guys were

[Anonymous No.17895670]

>>17895645
>jews are responsible for literally everything cool in history
holy nigger how can goyim even compete.

[Anonymous No.17895821]

>>17893592
> preserve and respect their language and culture
Sure, the destruction of Buddhist temples and erasure of centuries-old languages such as Mongolian counts as love of one's country.

[Anonymous No.17895873]

>>17893344
>cope
That's what China does when it appropriates culture this hard. Do you really have any respect for a nation of slave labor apologists?

[Anonymous No.17895879]

I have been reading mainlander chinese manhua and webnovels
God help us all if those crazy murderhobo drug addicts are any reflection on contemporary chinese

[Anonymous No.17895882]

>>17893325
I'm pro China, anything is better than the US

[Anonymous No.17895890]

>>17895882
lol

[Anonymous No.17895953]

>>17893452
This strikes me as similar to what a lot of European nations did during the colonization of Africa. They intentionally bred a small population mixed ancestry to function as a class of go-betweens and low level admins between the native population and the Europeans. The rationale being that they would be more loyal toward the colonizing powers than if they simply promoted the natives to those positions.

[Anonymous No.17895976]

>>17895873
>appropriates culture
Keep your leftie newspeak on Twitter

[Anonymous No.17896013]

>>17895976
>culture doesn't exist because it makes the lefties seethe

wut

[Anonymous No.17896014]

>>17895879
I mean if you've ever met young mainlanders you'll see that they're less mature psychologically than westerners.

[Anonymous No.17896092]

>>17894986
Spain and the UK are infinitely closer in reputation and competency than China and South Korea or Japan.

[Anonymous No.17896101]

Israel shit their pants this weekend

[Anonymous No.17896129]

>>17894260
KFC/tacobell/pizza hut employs 450 000 Chinese citizens though.

Deng was unironically right though.

[Anonymous No.17896163]

>>17896101
>Chinese investments

[Anonymous No.17896172]

>>17896163
Ever been to Shang-hai?

[Anonymous No.17896182]

>>17896172
Belt and Road is already collapsing lol

[Anonymous No.17896185]

>>17896182
you wish amerilard

[Anonymous No.17896186]

>>17894967
>What's the differences between these countries that has allowed this divide to appear?
Confucianism. You know how Arabs have historically been a bunch of backwards goat-fuckers because of their religion? Same thing in China and the places China subjugated (first and foremost of which was Korea lmao); Confucianism basically views cultural stagnation as a desirable state of affairs. Fifteen hundred fucking years ago the Chinese civil service was using standardized tests based on rote memorization of utterly inconsequential yet extremely traditional information to fill the ranks of their bureaucracy and just like today the students shamelessly cheated in hopes of landing a cushy government job that would allow them to be the tin-pot dictator of their own little postage stamp of government and line their pockets as much as they dared in doing do. The Japs, on the other hand, did NOT follow Confucianism because they never got fucked into submission by China the way the rest of eastern Asia did. To be sure there are some elements here and there that came in through cultural osmosis but their weltanschauung is informed by Shinto (a form of animism) instead. Case in point, guns. The Portuguese had been producing contemporary matchlocks in the Philippines for decades and the Chinese ignored them despite the close trade ties but the FIRST TIME a Jap official saw those matchlocks (completely incidentally) he realized that they could change everything, bought two of them and had his smiths start copying them. As Japan had no experience with some of the techniques used in the production of these guns they hit an impasse, so what did they do? They paid a Portuguese blacksmith to come to Japan and help them get their domestic production running and then sent him home when they had gotten the hang of it. Over the next ten years Japan domestically produced literally hundreds of thousands of matchlocks, improving on the design to better suit their own unique needs and completely reorganized its entire military doctrine around these guns. This happens repeatedly with everything from electricity to indoor plumbing to aircraft. Three hundred and fifty years after the Japs changed their entire military paradigm on a dime, Boxers armed with swords, antique muskets and whatever mis-matched black powder weapons that had slowly tricked in as part of "modernization" were attacking western (and Japanese) infantrymen armed with repeating metallic cartridge firearms less than five years before the IJN would end up kicking the shit out of the Russians Someone who fought in a war with a goddamn flintlock musket, a technology contemporary with Shakespeare, could have lived to see nuclear warfare and man on the moon. That is what Confucianism will get you.

[Anonymous No.17896232]

>>17896185
>if you don't like china you must be an American
Imagine being so pathetic that you need to deflect every criticism you get as "well at least we aren't the most evil country on earth".

[Anonymous No.17896238]

>>17896232
Go back to your fulfilment centre

[Anonymous No.17896244]

>>17896232
>"well at least we aren't the most evil country on earth".
well, yes
i welcome chinese hegemony because, while it might not be ideal, it is an improvement

[Anonymous No.17896285]

>>17896163
How do you fuck up that badly?

[Anonymous No.17896291]

>>17893628
The US DOES have a culture, it is simply a degenerate and harmful one that spreads only because the US has power and most people take their cues from the powerful.
>I feel like the American culture I love never actually existed.
This is true. The US has always been the world's garbage factory (or at least was until China took over in certain regards). At any rate there's almost nothing for Americans to be proud of as far as cultural output goes.

[Anonymous No.17896294]

>>17896244
1) to be evil in the level of the USA you would have to have as much power as the usa, this has never been the case with china so you can't really say they would have bene any better.
2) The usa has very specific spheres of influence and very specific goals, which means that if you are unrelated to them you will be mostly left alone as it was the case with my country. China seems to want total and complete domination over everything, they are already bribing politicians, undermining our sovereignty, destroying our industry, ect.
And they aren't even the one global power yet.
So far their rise of power has been horrible to most countries even remotely associated with them.

[Anonymous No.17896304]

>>17896291
When did the US culture become like that? What caused it to develop? I always perceived Americans historically as having isolated cultures due to distance but often reflecting their colonies. when did it become such a heaving vapid consumerist maw?

[Anonymous No.17896306]

>>17896186
/his/ is laughing at us again, bros..

[Anonymous No.17896308]

What is American culture I can't tell? It seems like Americans just have either shitty gig economy and retail jobs (over half the population does) or meaningless SEO jobs if they went to some college?

[Anonymous No.17896328]

>>17896304
It has always been like that, it never decayed.

[Anonymous No.17896411]

>>17896308
Do suburban and rural Americans really spend their whole lives following Jesus working fast-food and Amazon watch ppl die from oxy overdoses while they dream about how cool Donald Trump is and maintaining their lawns thinking garyveeand consumer activism is like the best thing? That's the stereotype now

[Anonymous No.17896427]

>>17896411
Not that many of them "follow Jesus" anymore, but this is true of all Americans, not just rural and suburban ones. In cities people die of heroin overdoses and everyone else spends their time avoiding designated shitting streets lined with heroin needles, attending "Black Trans Lives Matter" rallies, etc. so broadly analogous really

[Anonymous No.17896446]

How much of this is due to the freemasonic origins of the nation?

[Anonymous No.17896456]

>>17896446
meant as a reply to >>17896328

[Anonymous No.17896467]

>>17896446
>freemasonic origins
not really relevant, literally every Western country post-1848 or so could be accused of having "freemasonic origins" and they all have more worthy cultural output than the US. I attribute it to Anglophone culture already being lacking + the US being an economic zone first and foremost. It's not as if there are a whole lot of Canadian or Australian writers, philosophers, composers, and so on, either.

[Anonymous No.17896479]

>>17893338
Cope

[Anonymous No.17896550]

>>17896186
Can you explain how Confucianism promotes cultural stagnation?

[Anonymous No.17896578]

>>17896427
I though like 70% of GOP dumpster state Americans still attended evangelical churches between shifts at Wal-Mart and cikfila?

[Anonymous No.17896586]

>>17896578
nope

[Anonymous No.17896624]

>>17893325
The Cultural Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the Sinic Race.

[Anonymous No.17896630]

>>17896586
Well good. Evangelical christianity turned America into an awful place with their freemarkets and labour outsources and Reaganomics. Evangelical christianity was a clever trick played on poor whites by rich whited, but if it's coming to and end there is some hope

[Anonymous No.17896640]

>>17896624
The cultural revolution was Mao's side which has universally in all studies and literature considered to have been defeated by the Deng-Liu Line. What are you talking about bro?

[Anonymous No.17896669]

>>17896630
>free markets... Reganomics... outsourcing!
I have increasingly soured on this viewpoint. The reality is that the US simply does not make good stuff, which is why American companies were able to outsource so effectively - if you only make garbage, poor countries can do so just as well, but for a lower cost. America was the China of the 19tb-mid 20th Century, really. Of course there are other issues like typical Anglophone land use laws, out-of-control unions in certain sectors, cities collapsing due to race riots, and so on. Reagan also mostly just borrowed a ton of money to spend on defense, the extent to which he "de-regulated" things is exaggerated.

With that said, it is true that Evangelical Christianity in the US is anti-intellectual, but you have the causation backwards - Americans are anti-intellectual, so their religion tends to be anti-intellectual.

[Anonymous No.17896688]

>>17896669
Without intellectualism and a labour movement America will be unlivable in 25 years.

[Anonymous No.17896737]

>>17896186
Is this true, Nipophil bros?

[Anonymous No.17896752]

>>17896630
The countries that abandon Catholicism are doomed to become either individualistic, turbocapitalist Jew havens like Anglo countries or degenerate multicultural hellholes like Scandinavian countries or Germany.
Either way, without a strong sense of religious kinship (that the Reformation actively destroyed) you can't form livable communities.

[Anonymous No.17896777]

>>17893338
Feigning a literary culture is better than having none at all. Anglos have known this for a while now.

[Anonymous No.17896781]

>>17896752
The Catholic labour movement was good. I wish Biden was younger he could bring it back but no. It's amazing how badly fellow whites treat each other in redstates and accept those worthless lives of part-time precarious work and for their brothers.

[Anonymous No.17896793]

>>17896752
England, probably the most Anglo country of them all, is a communitarian nanny state that literally worships healthcare. People have been barely allowed outside for a year because the government's terrified people might catch the cold. The population have been trained since birth to "do the right thing" for the sake of others, but I'm told by brown people on the computer that I live in a turbocapitalist state that promotes radical individualism, I don't see it.

[Anonymous No.17896794]

>>17896752
>US
>individualistic
not really true, the language surrounding "personal liberation" in American discourse masks the underlying reality of a deeply communitarian concern for victims.

>>17896688
I don't see how Labor Unions! are going to improve the US in any way unless you work an extremely shit job like "Amazon warehouse worker". The actual problems the US has are unpayable public pensions, third-world immigration, Civil Rights creep, and crime. Unions aren't magically going to make the US produce non-shit cars, steel, comptuer chips etc. and another generation of "intellectuals" aren't going to make the US have a non-shit cultural life.

[Anonymous No.17896806]

>>17893452
Do you know the Wei?

[Anonymous No.17896810]

>>17896793
>England, probably the most Anglo country of them all, is a communitarian nanny state that literally worships healthcare
True in the US as well, but replace healthcare w/ antiracism. they mistakenly see Individualism where the real mindset is "Oh heavens, I wouldn't want to victimize someone else in the Community. You know who did that sort of thing? HITLER! And we fought Hitler in the War!"

[Anonymous No.17896813]

>>17893787
To gain influenc. The Chinese are this soulless that they'd create mutt babies in order to gain dominance.

[Anonymous No.17896856]

>>17896794
You are kinda dumb

[Anonymous No.17896861]

>>17893452
whoa I totally believe this image posted on 4chan about another country

[Anonymous No.17896870]

>>17896856
What do you think I have said that is incorrect?

[Anonymous No.17896881]

>>17896163
It just... fell over? Hahafaha!!!

[Anonymous No.17896897]

>>17896793
Because England is a perfect example of the two attitudes I mentioned. The English will sooner travel to Africa on an humanitarian trip to help niggers that won't even bother to thank them than help their eldery neighbor get her groceries.

[Anonymous No.17896909]

>>17896163
my chinese friend's dad and uncles "used to" run a business where they'd build a bridge or building that the government was schedeled to build before they got a chance to, obviously they'd make sure it was built cheaply enough that they and the official responsible for the hijacked project both profitted.

[Anonymous No.17896911]

>>17896897
Not helping other cultures flourish is backwards.

[Anonymous No.17896915]

>>17895821
>erasure of centuries-old languages such as Mongolian counts as love of one's country.
If you are Chinaman it absolutely does

[Anonymous No.17896923]

>>17896897
Why would an "Individualist" care about the plight of some random Africans? They view themselves as being part of "The Human Community :)" with an obligation to care for poor childlike victims like Africans. It's just a different value ordering than that of, say, an Arab.

[Anonymous No.17896938]

>>17896186
Not so fast! Japan did much of this, but then they literally abandoned it for decades because the katana meme was so strong even back then.

[Anonymous No.17896945]

>>17896911
It's not about other cultures, it's that practicing actual charity is not fashionable and you can't post it on social media in order to boast about how good of a person you are.
It's a mix of the narcissistic drive to present yourself as a good person worried by the wellbeing of others while refusing to participate in making your community a better place.
That's why people will clap when some Paki woman get's elected as a town official yet they will pass by the same homeless person everyday as if they are invisible.
Perfect mix between a badly understood social justice (far removed from the actual Social Doctrine of the Church) and an individualistic and narcissistic approach to your relationship with your community.

[Anonymous No.17896949]

>>17896793
These things aren't incompatible at all. It's Sinicisation: the atomisation of people under individualism creates chaos, alienated creatures in a permanent 'state of war', obsessed with the need to survive, and consequently they become dominated by the tyranny of the masses. This is why China can be simultaneously one of the most cutthroat, self-interested, cynical societies on the planet, notoriously full of scams and corruption, while remaining nominally socialist. There is a kind of communitarianism that is rooted completely in self-interest. It's not the government that's terrified of the cold; Boris seems if anything more vacillating than e.g. Merkel. Just look at surveys from any country. It's the masses who want lockdown, who are controlled by the fear of death.

[Anonymous No.17896951]

>>17896923
See >>17896945

[Anonymous No.17896952]

>>17896938
The Tokugawa shogunate banned guns so that nobody could use them against them because they were OP.

[Anonymous No.17896954]

>>17896949
>This is why China can be simultaneously one of the most cutthroat, self-interested, cynical societies on the planet
China was like that before Socialism though.

[Anonymous No.17896956]

>>17896897
>The English will sooner travel to Africa on an humanitarian trip to help niggers that won't even bother to thank them than help their eldery neighbor get her groceries.
urbanites are braindamaged

[Anonymous No.17896962]

>>17896954
Yes, absolutely. That’s why I say Sinicisation, not socialism.

[Anonymous No.17896964]

>>17896954
what was that book, I think it was ugly chinese man or something

[Anonymous No.17896966]

>>17896945
I think there is also the issue of charity-as-product done by nations and the potential reliance of the country being helped to the helper, i.e. "helping" other nations often comes with political caveat, and people either don't look or are unwilling to look behind the humanitarian curtain.

[Anonymous No.17896983]

>>17896945
It makes perfect sense if you view the Paki woman as part of your community and more oppressed than the homeless person in question by virtue of being a Paki - which is basically what American-style racial theory teaches. Again, this is perverse (where you define perverse to be "not in line with Catholic Doctrine"), but I don't think it really makes sense to call it Individualist.

>>17896949
>>17896962
>communitarian self-interest
This seems to be a contradiction - there has to be better wording to describe it.

[Anonymous No.17897012]

>>17896983
Plus, it's not as if Catholic countries have really been that much better... American-style racial theory has been gaining influence n France recently. Spain seems to be obsessed with feminism to a far greater extent than the other developed countries. Communism was always more relevant in the Catholic countries than in England or America. I suppose you could chalk this up to abandoning Catholicism but at the state level everyone except African countries is abandoning Catholicism unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.17897015]

>>17896945
>That's why people will clap when some Paki woman get's elected as a town official
Which is good since tribalism in the West is rightfully dead.

And everyone, including the homeless, ought to be helped.
The ethnonationalist argument about limited resources meme has to die.

[Anonymous No.17897031]

>>17893688
oi cunt give em back!

[Anonymous No.17897046]

>>17897015
>Which is good since tribalism in the West is rightfully dead.
ahahahahahaha
this is about to go very wrong

[Anonymous No.17897101]

>>17896983
>>17897015
It is individualistic because they don't give a fuck about the Paki woman either, they don't regard her as a person worthy of respect and dignity like everyone else, they regard her as a symbol of their imaginary fight against oppression. Thus they empower her by virtue of what she represents, not because she means anything to them or because they have a strong sense of justice and want to fight for the dignity of others.

>>17897012
Spain, France and Italy are a perfect example of how the growing secularism is a destructive force that will erode the very fabric of a country.
Don't get me wrong, the Church is responsible too in all of this.They abandoned those who needed it the most and refused to make a stand for their values.
John Paul II basically destroyed liberation theology, which is what brought life to many Catholic communities in South America, and now Pope Francis is so focused in looking good for the press and appeasing the mass of atheists and agnostics that will never be a part of the Church that he alienates the actual believers.

"All that is solid melts into air, all that is sacred is profaned" Nowadays, not even the Church can stand up to this hellscape that we have been carefully curating for the past 200 years.

[Anonymous No.17897110]

>>17896983
No contradiction at all if you understand self-interest here to mean the will to live. The myth of individualism, especially in its most extreme form, is that the liberation of self-interest will lead to the rise of the most exceptional people, while in fact this assumes that people want to excel and exalt in life, rather than merely *survive* and increase, conforming to those practices that will best allow that and cynically exploiting any opportunity to scam and manipulate others.

[Anonymous No.17897123]

>>17895879
Are there any especially good or interesting series that you'd recommend?

[Anonymous No.17897168]

>>17897101
Many LatAm countries are becoming Protestant nowadays as they become wealthier (and due to proximity to the US). I think another factor here is that Catholic social organization seems to be built for peasant societies, but when people start to get lifted out of peasantry the Church doesn't really know what to do with itself.

[Anonymous No.17897183]

>>17897123
Go to /a/ search for isekai in the catalogue and then ask them what chinkshit they would recommend other than "reverend insanity"

[Anonymous No.17897187]

>>17893379
>in the mistaken belief
westerners very consciously claim that fear and adrenaline within a slaughtered animal will make the meat taste worse, of course this means that the belief is not mistaken, it is simply two different value judgements of a commonly perceived phenomenon.

>wikipedia
kill yourself kike

[Anonymous No.17897194]

>>17897187
The West also has animal rights, my manchurian shill.

[Anonymous No.17897235]

>>17895302
Yeah, she disappeared off the grid for like 7 hours to secretly meet with her benefactor. People had no idea where she went in the middle of such a crisis, after that her administration commissioned groups to investigate her and put her under a microscope, eventually they found everything out.

[Anonymous No.17897316]

>>17894232
>Unfortunately for America it’s a nation built on genocide and slavery
most nations are

[Anonymous No.17897332]

>>17894232
>which makes it very hard to build a unified patriotic populace

Not really. It began that way and has shifted, largely, since the Hart-Cellar Act.

[Anonymous No.17897403]

>>17897183
I was more so asking about things that are more "serious" that might exist, outside of the usual genre trash, in the vein of a "graphic novel" or mangas like Punpun and Aku no Hana. That kind of stuff is very pseudointellectual in a way but I love it, it doesn't feel totally shallow but it still manages to be more emotionally satisfying than real art, I think the visual medium is a big part of that too though. And I'm just asking about Chinese ones specifically because obviously there's a lot less modern cultural output from there than from Japan, so it's a bit more of an unknown for me.

[Anonymous No.17897409]

>>17893338
ultra based analogy

[Anonymous No.17897496]

>>17893465
No it was not continued to the next logical step. It was completely co-opted and the old thought was taken out back to the shed and shot. Today we have basically no culture, the we do have if you can even call it a culture is objectively harmful and even self-flagellatory.

[Anonymous No.17897952]

>>17896870
Do you really think that retard will elaborate on his silly pointless snide remark?

[Anonymous No.17897988]

>>17896794
Good post

[Anonymous No.17898019]

will never understand how so many people came to hate china so much

[Anonymous No.17898044]

>>17898019
Anti-China sentiment in the media and the feeling that the West is being eclipsed, everyone knows it and there's nothing anyone can do about it

[Anonymous No.17898057]

>>17893642
China is it communism, but we need their system of government.

[Anonymous No.17898155]

>>17893530
racist and hatepilled

[Anonymous No.17899114]

>>17893325
this is ridiculous. A Chinaman could never truly comprehend Joyce.

[Anonymous No.17899343]

>>17893754
oh my god they're actually fucking chinese, look at their broken chinglish

[Anonymous No.17899366]

>>17899114
>t. bad karmar holder

[Anonymous No.17900196]

lol who tf is "james joyce" he sounds like a faggot

[Anonymous No.17900213]

>>17900196
he's got like 5m followers on tiktok tho

[Anonymous No.17900266]

>>17893338
Why did this post trigger so many of you fags? He’s absolutely right. 99.99% of English speakers literally, linguistically, grammatically can’t comprehend a single sentence that is the gibberish prose of Finnegans Wake. How are the Chinese, in reading a fucking translation of all things, going to do any better? You retards realize the Chinese aren’t a different species from us right? We’re all the same.

[Anonymous No.17900296]

>>17900266
Chinese middle schoolers learn calculus whereas the average American learns it in Uni, that is if their major calls for it. It's not surprising that the average native English speaker is also linguistically retarded.

[Anonymous No.17900651]

>>17893530
tldr

[Anonymous No.17900686]

>>17900651
Chinese are petty, lazy, selfish and cruel

[Anonymous No.17900705]

>>17900296
China numbah wan!

[Anonymous No.17900717]

>>17893338
That's like... all of literature readers, don't?

[Anonymous No.17901140]

>>17893338
pure *nglo cope

[Anonymous No.17901159]

[Anonymous No.17901685]

>>17893837
>Imagine being ruled by the Nazis for 300 years.
Yeah. Just imagine.

[Anonymous No.17901695]

>>17893888
>>17893864

[Anonymous No.17901711]

>>17900296
Euros learn it in middle school too.

When the jews move endless waves of niggers into China AND THEY WILL we'll see what the "average chinese" learns in primary school.

[Anonymous No.17902655]

itt cia shills and wumao army

[Anonymous No.17902854]

>>17897101
>Spain, France and Italy are a perfect example of how the growing secularism is a destructive force that will erode the very fabric of a country.
But why do you think that is? Secularisation by itself shouldn't erode the fabric of a country, and though the failings of the Church can certainly contribute to it, what's preventing some other organisation or community from springing up and providing a sense of community and justice to people?
I'm not saying that it doesn't by the way, just asking why you think so.

[Anonymous No.17902986]

>>17902854
It's not necessarily secularism by itself, but rather secularism in thos specific countries. Some countries are intrinsecally linked to their faith, much more than others:
Spain was literally built on Christian opposition to Islam during 800 years of constant war, it's origins could be traced to Roman administrative provinces, but it was the faith that provided the common goal that allowed for the unification.
What allowed Italy to be more than just a peninsula full of city states and principates was the Bisophric of Rome.
Modern Greece was formed in opposition to Ottoman occupation based around the Orthodox faith.
Ireland also, with the Catholic opposition to Anglicanism and Protestantism.
France is a bit different, since it went through secularism in a faster, more drastic way after the Revolution, it still suffeered a great deal for it, but back then things could hold better than they can now.
Those countries lose their very sense of identity if you deprive them of their faith.

In every society, the dissolution of religious principles allows for growing disunity and distrust, your neighbor is not someone you trust and love, someone who will be there for you if needed, he is simply an stranger, someone who could hurt you and your familiy. How can you build a sense of community and belonging around people you don't know or trust?

>what's preventing some other organisation or community from springing up and providing a sense of community and justice to people?
You can't provide strong justifications for any of those things if you give up on religion.
Human rights are useful, they allow to biuld a prosperous, stable society, but they are ultimately sand castles.
If your justification for them is that they allow us to live together, when the moment comes that they lose this utility they will be abandoned, since their only justification is the results they provide.
It's the same problem with the 'golden rule'. Only treating people a certain way because you expect reciprocity is fundamentally flawed. What about those who can't reciprocate, like babies or old people?
With this mindset a baby's life is only worth as much as the parents care for it.

So secularisation is damaging to every society, and to some countries it has an added historical impact.

[Anonymous No.17903034]

>>17894967
Japan and South Korea have Honour cultures passed down by its (now dying) Aristocratic classes

[Anonymous No.17903042]

>>17902854
>the very fabric of a country
You amuse yourself with senseless words.

[Anonymous No.17903052]

>>17903042
Why are you here if you don't know what words mean?

[Anonymous No.17903076]

They literally conquered the world by just working and not doing retarded things. That's it, that is how they won.

[Anonymous No.17903097]

>>17903076
To be more precise, they conquered the world by making cheap copies of anything people might want in times of growing consumerism, but couldn't afford with their measly salaries. They also offered cheap labor so that owners of western companies can get bigger profit.
They were the devil and we sold our souls to them.

[Anonymous No.17903110]

>>17893798
>'Kneeling for hundreds of years, is it not enough?'
no its fucking not get back down

[Anonymous No.17903168]

>>17896752
Yeah because Catholicism has served countries like Italy and Spain so well recently

[Anonymous No.17903177]

>>17896897
I am begging you to leave whichever city you live in

[Anonymous No.17903294]

>>17896185
the reality is that china has enemies on all front
china can only continue to be a dick for so long
not that i'm implying the government will be abolished as a result, but they're definitely not winning any friends and the only real friend is north korea while every other middle eastern country is just a debt trap for their colonialism through debt

[Anonymous No.17903342]

>>17897015
>The ethnonationalist argument about limited resources meme has to die.
Sorry I forgot some people live in a fantasy world where everyone has everything

[Anonymous No.17903425]

>>17897496
you have writers like james joyce to thank for the lack of culture. your obsession with the dying movments of anti culture is pathetic

[Anonymous No.17903622]

>>17893843
theyve plagued /his/ for a while but it's actually sometimes funny seeing a poo in the loo run circles around them when they show up to combat them

[Anonymous No.17903646]

>>17895221
I think the mainland chinks overall (in the upper tier cities, anyway) are probably not as different as people think compared to other populations. But if it came down to a hypothetical of if I could live anywhere I want because I had gajillions in my bank account, I would never in a million years tolerate the absolute state of mainland chinese public restrooms and toilets. Who in their right mind would choose the mainland over Taiwan if they wanted to live among chinks for half a year

[Anonymous No.17903647]

>>17900296
You clearly don't know how fucked their English is.

https://youtu.be/rKT-169biQw

[Anonymous No.17903772]

>>17903647
Allegedly Chinese elites are groomed isolated from American culture, a lot of them don't know any English at all
Powerful flex

[Anonymous No.17904188]

>>17895155
That actually wasn't that interesting

[Anonymous No.17904201]

>>17903646
Public shitters are filthy everywhere

[Anonymous No.17904220]

>>17895670
Just the gay subversive stuff

[Anonymous No.17904231]

>>17895879
The face aspect? Absolutely. Everything else? Not really, RR has the same shit and we know how cringe westerners are

[Anonymous No.17904271]

>>17896467
In the Gothic tradition America is a powerhouse. Not sure about much else but they definitely have some notable poets too. There must be something else they're good at

[Anonymous No.17904281]

>>17904201
kinda dishonest to suggest there isn't a spectrum of filthiness. public shitters in china, at least when i was there, consisted of one trough, with a few doorless dividers, into which people pissed and shit, i never saw the point in the dividers since they afforded you no privacy, western public toilets might be less than clean but at least i never have to see another man, dick out, squeezing out a turd.

[Anonymous No.17904624]

>>17896752
Ahh yes, Denmark and Sweden are such multicultural hellholes compared to Spain and Italy. If you honestly believe this your brain has been turned into mush

[Anonymous No.17904652]

>>17893325
What sort of literary syncretism will come from China as a result of this?

[Anonymous No.17905429]

>>17896752
Lmao, the only reason Southern Europe hasn't turned into third world hellholes is because of constant gibs from Northern Europe. Take your catholic "work ethic" and stuff it.