/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.17871588]

So it's true then? /lit/ doesn't read poetry.

[Anonymous No.17871592]

>>17871588
In regards to the list? I think it's pretty solid.

[Anonymous No.17871594]

>nooo they don't prefer the ones I do! CRINGE! where is my basedjack gigachad folder!!

[Anonymous No.17871596]

>>17871588
Poetry is for schizoids and schizophrenics
Philosophy/prose is for autists

Majority of posters on 4chan are autists so that's why many anons don't read poetry.

[Anonymous No.17871604]

>>17871596
>don't read poetry
they don't read at all

[Anonymous No.17871614]

>>17871596
>look up philosopher
>stable long life, unexceptional daily life, writes with clarity
>look up poet
>dropped out, travelled to Siberia for a thot, killed himself at 30
They're really different species aren't they?

[Anonymous No.17871615]

>>17871614
one is based the other cringe

[Anonymous No.17871617]

>>17871615
>>17871604
>>17871594
Stop posting retard your posts are invariably cringe

[Anonymous No.17871619]

>>17871588
I assume some fave of yours isn't listed, but the list itself seems fine. Surprised to see a /lit/ list with a female writer in the top 5.

[Anonymous No.17871623]

>>17871617
>brainlet who needs poetry spoonfed
kys nigger

[Anonymous No.17871642]

>>17871588
>Emily Dickinson
>Dick-In-Son

[Anonymous No.17871646]

>>17871642
quick, someone cancel her on twitter

[Anonymous No.17871663]

>>17871614
>>dropped out, travelled to Siberia for a thot, killed himself at 30
Who?

I know one from Austria who became a lover of his own sister, then developed a morphine addiction, to aid that addiction he perused pharmacy in the university and as a career, severed on the front line as a medic, tried to kill himself because of all the misery, got hospitalized but his depression got worse, wrote a letter to Wittgenstein but killed himself by overdosing on cocaine the night before his arrive.

[Anonymous No.17871690]

>>17871588
What do you mean retard? Because Amanda Gorman is not on the list it's a bad list?
Do you even realise how good Hölderlin, Goethe, Rilke, Homer and Shakespeare are?

[Anonymous No.17871693]

>>17871617
>seething brainlet

[Anonymous No.17871786]

>>17871663
Based Trakl

[Anonymous No.17871815]

>>17871786
Speaking of Trakl I found this copy of his poems at my second hand bookstore (translated by Lucia Getsi) and maybe I don't get it, or its a bad translation, a lot of his poems are mostly just describing nature? I don't know... it's beautifully done but I can never quite connect to them other than seeing them a lovely descriptions.

[Anonymous No.17871838]

>>17871588
No one reads poetry. Nice list though, much better than the top novels.

[Anonymous No.17871963]

>>17871815
For Heidegger, Trakl was just as much a poet-prophet as Hölderlin. Across all his poems of the middle and late periods there is a web of cross-references and symbols that live a double life beneath the surface. The easiest way to see this is through the language of color.

For example, a poem might start like this (and I have to summarize it roughly without subtlety, I am not a poet): Red is established as the color of the hunt and violence. White occurs in association with "the cold, decaying moon." Blue is an idyllic water spring in the night and a symbol of hope. Black is the colour of death. In the last stanza, the black wing of night descends on the boy's forehead and snow falls from purple (blue/red) clouds. Heidegger labored over something like that with interesting results.

The language of color, as I said, runs through all the poems, becoming ever richer and more multi-layered. Hard to translate, I guess.

[Anonymous No.17871995]

>nazi in top 5
Ah, I see not even poetry is saved from poltrash

[Anonymous No.17872009]

>>17871663
I guess the other anon was just making up a story (which is quite funny). Made me think of RImbaud:
>Lives in a shit hole, absolute genius.
>Decides to go write some poetry with the most famous poets of the time.
>Absolutely mogs them while still being a teen.
>Gets fucked in the ass.
>Gets shot by his lover who is another poet, among the most respected to this day.
>Go to the Paris Commune.
>Probably gets gang-raped by communards.
>Continue writing poetry so good that he is often considered to be the best French poet with Baudelaire and revolutionises the way we write it forever.
>Gets tired of poetry
>Decides to fuck off and become an arm dealer in Africa.
>Never writes a single poem again, never talks with his poet buddies again, never even mention he used to write poetry at some point.
>Dies in horrible pain after becoming Catholic.

[Anonymous No.17872018]

>>17871995
You are uneducated.

[Anonymous No.17872030]

>Bukowski not on the list

Shit list.

[Anonymous No.17872127]

Where is Herder?
Where is Schiller?
Where is Novalis?
Where is Eichendorff?
Where is Mörike?
Where is Droste-Hülshoff?
Where is Storm?
Where is Liliencron?
Where is George?
Where is Hofmannsthal?

[Anonymous No.17872146]

I don't read poetry. I don't see the appeal.

[Anonymous No.17872161]

The best poets are anonymous medieval monks writing in Latin.

[Anonymous No.17872232]

>>17872018
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.17872356]

We should do these annually too

[Anonymous No.17872366]

>>17872127
This isn an english speaking board so it’s biased to english poetry. Translated poetry is almost always a waste of time.

[Anonymous No.17872412]

>>17872030
>Bukowski not on the list
you mean decent list lmao
>complains about the absence of Bukowski and not an actual master like Stevens

[Anonymous No.17872440]

>>17871588
I never read poetry besides classes. probably a shortcoming, but can't get around and do it

[Anonymous No.17873691]

>>17872127
Who

[Anonymous No.17874093]

Where is Hitler?

[Anonymous No.17874107]

>>17874093
I ask myself that every day

[Anonymous No.17874668]

>>17871588
>Woodsworth

[Anonymous No.17874692]

>>17872232
cope

[Anonymous No.17875078]

>>17871963
Very interesting anon. I've only read him translated so I can only know so much but can you say more about what the colors indicate in Trakl's poetry I'm a fan of his.

[Anonymous No.17875143]

>>17871963
Do you happen to know how Heidegger perceived Char and Rimbaud poetry? I only have a superficial knowledge of Heidegger but I know he was really buddy with Char who made him discover Rimbaud. Here a small text (poem?) in French by Char on the death of Heidegger:
>AISÉ À PORTER
>Martin Heidegger est mort ce matin. Le soleil qui l'a couché lui a laissé ses outils et n'a retenu que l'ouvrage. Ce seuil est constant. La nuit qui s'est ouverte aime de préférence.
>Mercredi, 26 mai 1976

[Anonymous No.17876345]

>>17871588
>robert frost in top 10
Yikers

[Anonymous No.17876385]

>>17871588
>So it's true then? /lit/ doesn't read
Yes precisely

[Anonymous No.17876397]

>>17871588
No but /lgbt/ does faggot see you in gym class later

[Anonymous No.17876416]

>>17871588
>none of the fireside poets

[Anonymous No.17876798]

>>17871588
Post an alternative list then, faggot.

[Anonymous No.17876813]

>>17872009
Tuly, adventure died

[Anonymous No.17876826]

>>17871588
I like my aesthetics to have some ideas in them. Most poetry lacks ideas. Especially 20th century poetry.

[Anonymous No.17876867]

>>17876826
>r. didn’t read Apollinaire
>t. didn’t read Eliot
>t. didn’t read Celan
>t. didn’r read Char
>t. didn’t read Bonnefoy
>t. didn’t read Reverdy
>t. didn’t read Pound
>t. didn’t read Saint-John Perse
And many others, and certainly others I don’t know. 20th century poetry had a lot of ideas, I really don’t know what you’re talking about... If you’ve read any of the poets I listed above, please tell me how they lack idea.

[Anonymous No.17876913]

>1 post by this ID

[Anonymous No.17877028]

>>17876867
I only read Eliot and I love Eliot. Haven’t read any of the others, but thanks for the recommendations, I’ll check them out.

The 20th century poets I’m referring to are the kind that are usually heartless as the “best” of the era. Like Ashberry, Berryman, Pound, Auden, Cummings, Stevens, Crane. Their language is masterful, their images are profound. I’m sure there are plenty of “ideas” if one were to dig deeply enough into their symbols. But there seems to be some sense of content lacking. In other words, the aesthetics are placed significantly higher than the ideas. Significantly.

[Anonymous No.17877051]

Keats would have been the greatest poet of his time if he didn’t die prematurely

[Anonymous No.17878135]

>>17871690
>poet
>Amanda Gorman

[Anonymous No.17879717]

>>17877051
more like Sheats

[Anonymous No.17879736]

>>17871588
If this is supposed to be a multilingual list its retarded. If not why put Goehte and Dante there

[Anonymous No.17879741]

>>17879736
Good poetry is Anglo

[Anonymous No.17879975]

>>17879736
>Goehte and Dante there
They also wrote in English, as did Baudelaire, Rimbaud and Lautréamont

[Anonymous No.17880018]

>Mallarme only mentioned
It's true then.

[Anonymous No.17880145]

>>17871588
More like /lit/ doesn't read barely any non-anglo authors, from the looks of that list

[Anonymous No.17880172]

>>17871588
>Blake that high
Byron, Shelley Coleridge shat on him and still do. How many have legitimately read his prophetic works?

[Anonymous No.17880192]

>>17871588
>Blake
Based and mysticism pilled

[Anonymous No.17880213]

>>17880172
I love Shelley, though Blake was a more naturally gifted lyricist. Blake was a mad savant so he easily filters plebs and filtered pretty much everyone for a whole century. The prophetic books are great. If you want a good overview on Blake, I recommend Chesterton's book on him.

[Anonymous No.17880276]

>>17880213
Have you read his prophetic works?
>Blake was a more naturally gifted lyricist.
No he wasn't, without his mysticism he can't stand upto any of the poets I mentioned.

[Anonymous No.17880961]

>>17880172
These are all of inferior poetic genius to Blake.

[Anonymous No.17881043]

>>17880276
coleridge's poetry was mostly mediocre, he has a couple of great works and none of them stand up to blake's best. also, if you admit blake is a mystic, why the fuck are you even comparing byron and shelley then? do you even know what you're talking about?

[Anonymous No.17881053]

>>17881043
You didn't answer his question and you got defensive lmao

[Anonymous No.17881794]

>>17871690
>muh holderlin
Shut the fuck up pseud

[Anonymous No.17881927]

>>17881043
I am comparing aesthetics and beauty. How does him being a mystic figure in that comparison?

[Anonymous No.17881956]

>>17881794
Don't even bate about this, man

[Anonymous No.17882184]

>>17881794
>Appreciating one of the greatest most visionary poets of all time makes you a pseud
What are you even trying to see here? Just fuck off retard.

[Anonymous No.17882192]

>>17881956
>>17882184
>triggered pseuds
Yikes

[Anonymous No.17882193]

>>17882184
>see
*say

[Anonymous No.17882272]

>>17871588
Poetry is fucking gay
No I will not explain as to why something based on rhymes and emotions is not only feminine but gay
Yes I only read books and literature by men
No I will not read the poor propaganda you faggots will write as a response in order to try and infect me with your disease
Good bye

[Anonymous No.17882294]

>>17882272
Poetry is not based on rhyme retard

[Anonymous No.17882992]

>>17872127
George especially is underappreciated here, with a biography like his and his style of poetry one has to wonder how he isnt being memed to death. Probably nobody speaking german here, and germanons having bad taste.

[Anonymous No.17883507]

>>17871588
>/lit/ doesn't read
Correct.
>according to popular vote
You get what you deserve.

[Anonymous No.17883532]

>>17880172
Percy Bysshe Shelley sucks.