/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.17867032]

How much would the average American IQ drop if kids read The Hobbit instead of The Great Gatsby in school?

[Anonymous No.17867055]

>>17867032
But we do read the Hobbit in school, just at a younger age. Not in class mind you, but I read it in 5th grade

[Anonymous No.17867065]

>>17867032
most kids don't actually read the books they're assigned

[Anonymous No.17867078]

>>17867032
That's not how IQ works. Not that anything would change fundamentally at all but the verbal test would largely be influenced by the amount and variety of words used. Constantly reading a dictionary would be the most promising approach here.

[Anonymous No.17867097]

>>17867032
A more productive question would be how much would average American IQ rise if they read Mein Kampf instead of The Great Gatsby in school?

reminder: Average Japanese IQ is 107 - 114.

[Anonymous No.17867135]

That's Ashkenazi Jewish IQ. Japs are 103-107

[Anonymous No.17867143]

>>17867135
here:
>>17867097

[Anonymous No.17867146]

>>17867032
Can't drop below absolute zero anon

[Anonymous No.17867157]

>>17867135
Wtf I guess Jews really are superior /pol/ was wrong yet again

[Anonymous No.17867200]

>>17867157
It's much more complicated than that, they're also in the process of losing the IQ.

[Anonymous No.17867211]

>>17867097
the IQ of the old New England and Southern pseudo-aristocratic populations was probably around 110. As recently as 20th century the Episcopalians(also around 110-112) had a burst of business dominance similar to the ones you see with Ashk.

The educated portion of these populations was taught Greek and Latin as children up until the education reforms of the early 20th century. Your causality is backwards of course, they could handle the more sophisticated material because they were of superior genetic stock and formal schooling was restricted to a minority of them who showed the most promise. Jefferson had a plan about trying to recruit the smart children from the entire country for this purpose, including all the smart poor, but by the time anything like that started really happening universal education and the new curriculum were introduced.

[Anonymous No.17867238]

>>17867211
The Episcopalians are still up there although that is more a result of it being an elite club rather than a particular genetic lineage.

[Anonymous No.17867281]

>>17867238
Their overrepresentation in various industries went down though. They had striking numbers for a while. Also if Reform Jews can't manage endogamy I really doubt Episcopalians can. They're still assortatively mating though, just into the white-jew-asian striver caste that's forming.

[Anonymous No.17867323]

>>17867281
Jews have much bigger problems because they are such a tiny minority, I think they're at 50% intermarriage by now, which means complete cultural annihilation. The Chinese have problems because of heavy sexual asymmetry meaning the males have trouble reproducing. The future elite caste will be (gentile) European again although it is unclear to what extent that will organize itself into a religious denomination.

[Anonymous No.17867337]

>>17867055
Good for you anon, instead we read about niggers and Jews in the 5th grade (unironically) at least I found my love of writing in the brief poetry unit.

[Anonymous No.17867364]

>>17867323
>s have much bigger problems because they are such a tiny minority,
they're not a tiny minority in the Ivy League schools though, which is the well from which said caste is drawn

[Anonymous No.17867379]

>>17867211
>The educated portion of these populations was taught Greek and Latin as children up until the education reforms of the early 20th century.
In some European countries kids considered promising still learning Latin and or Greek. They translate Homer and stuff.

Most children hate it I think. I dunno if it's worthwhile. Even as someone really interested into the Greeks now, I think as a child I would have not been interested.

[Anonymous No.17867414]

>>17867364
The intermarriage rates speak for themselves. Ivy League is one thing success another. For Jews there are millions more potential gentile partners at 150 IQ and below. If there are no strong cultural restrictions to intermarriage they're gone. We're of course talking about the non-Orthodox here. The Orthodox are reproducing rapidly but they don't seem to have the same IQ.

[Anonymous No.17867426]

>>17867379
There are still American private schools that teach those subjects too but the whole system of education is totally different now so there isn't really much point in learning Greek and Latin in terms of elite education. As for kids not being interested in it, I think that might have always been kind of true, but the point was to learn the languages so that they could then get a real classical education in university.

[Anonymous No.17867442]

>>17867414
They will lose their culture of course, I mean Reform Judaism is already a joke in terms of authentic Jewish tradition. It's not like elite Wasps have any real connection to their traditional culture now either. Their population though will be genetically represented in the elite.

[Anonymous No.17867484]

>>17867442
No, their genes will be assimilated. It's like a drop in the ocean. It's a cascading process as well, with every generation the number of potential intra high IQ Jewish relations shrinks. It's not going to be long until the Jewish population advantage in the say 160+ IQ segment has disapperared. I read they're already disappearing from the academic competitions, being replaced by Asians. That's to a degree a cultural issue but I have no doubt that the dissolution of their gene pool is highly relevant as well. I completely agree with your assessment of reform Judaism.

[Anonymous No.17867572]

>>17867238
This chart is kind of skewed. The majority of Jews living in the US live in New York City or out on the Island, where salaries are already much higher as it is. Because many Jews are living in cities, they aren't so often going into manual labor or farming jobs as those in more rural parts of the country.
It's really more dependent on location than anything else.

[Anonymous No.17867630]

>>17867032
What if the curriculum was cut down to Harry Potter

[Anonymous No.17867869]

>>17867055
When I was in grade 5 or 6, a couple kids were obsessed with Tolkien in general. One kid in particular read everything the man wrote - or, at least, whatever was published in the mid/late 90s.

Wonder what happened to him. Haven't seen him since

[Anonymous No.17867890]

>>17867572
It's largely a matter of IQ but your criticism is not incorrect you just apply it too broadly.