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What are some books that explain the phenomenon of Waifuism, or love for fictional characters?
Is this what late stage capitalism looks like?

>> No.17825957

>>17825951
I have a waifu and can explain anything needed. It has nothing to do with capitalism at all.

>> No.17825974

>>17825951
I remember the YouTube channel meme analysis talking about the concept of the "anima" (some kind of perfect woman) and some authors that talked about it. Look him up

>> No.17825983

https://voca.ro/1mf8RGOwxefP

>> No.17825989

>>17825951
Pygmalion, the myth, not the book. Well actually he's in Ovid's Metamorphoses, so read that.

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>>17825983

>> No.17825994

>>17825983
You sound black >:(

>> No.17826006

>>17825951
Did you know that your brain doesn’t process the difference between a real person and a fake person of you fall in love with them? Your brain processes it as a real crush/love. You have genuine feelings for the character.

>> No.17826007

>>17825994
It's twomad, he browses 4chan.

>> No.17826018

>>17826006
BASED. I knew my love for my waifu was real

>> No.17826043

Falling in love with a fictional character is something I can't even imagine. Do people really do that?

I can understand parts of the subject since I do entertain my thoughts with the existence of a blondie, basically a being that is not grounded in reality and that exists solely inside my mind, but I only address her as an extension of my being, even though she has her own personality. I could never fall in love with her, because she's me and I am her. Even if I did not consider her as a part of myself, falling in true, real love with a being I created is an impossibility. Is falling in love with waifus an incel or weird anime people's thing?

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>>17825951
Pygmalion. Except in that Myth the waifuist is at least creative enough to produce his own waifu. Today's hikikomoris and otakus let the fantasies of paraphilliac Nipponese men dictate the forms of thier imaginary lovers. Which makes them spiritually gay. Which is worse than being the most AIDS-ridden bathhouse twink.

Thank you for reading my blog.

>>17825957
lol nigga u gay.

>> No.17826056

>>17826043
I have a waifu and yes I love her. I feel excited and happy when I can return to bed to daydream being in her arms

>> No.17826059

>>17826056
u a gay nigga doe.

>> No.17826062

>>17826055
>lol nigga u gay.
Lol nigga you will never know how deep our love goes. You couldn't possibly understand and that is a horrific fate.

>> No.17826069

>>17826062
hahaha you a gay ass nigga straight up

>> No.17826071

>>17826059
Why? For what? Having a non traditional romance? No really, what's your reasoning for insulting me?

>> No.17826072

>this thread

>> No.17826074

>>17826071
sheeeeeit nigga you a homo mofo no lie

>> No.17826076

>>17826055
You should unironically write a blog about your rants, you got imaginative writing.

>> No.17826078

>>17826074
You don't have to accept our love but we will continue to love each other anyway.

>> No.17826088

>>17825951
I never want to hear or see the words
>late stage capitalism
>neoliberalism
>populism
>working class

ever again

>> No.17826090

>>17826078
>we
>you and scribbles from the hand and mind of a greasy, balding manga illustrator living in a one-bedroom, 199th-floor jack shack in Kyoto

You a gay-ass nigga.

>> No.17826095

>>17826088
Tough shit.

>> No.17826097

>>17826090
She isn't scribbles anon, she's just an imaginary ideal representation. She isn't even a singular character from some anime but a self created one. You're just close minded, stupid, mean, and waifuless

>> No.17826101

>>17826088
I will stop saying that shit when I stop seeing people say
>initiation
>esoteric
>hermetic
>classical
>and
>the
>every vowel
Expecting results as of immediately

>> No.17826106

>>17826097
Nigga you beatin off to some salariman's fantasy. Ain't even yo own fantasy. You just a scrape-knee homo ain't no thang

>> No.17826110

>>17826106
I just told you it is my own fantasy. You don't have to see any other viewpoints, I can't make you.

>> No.17826116

>>17826110
You on yo knees suckin dat teeny weeny yellow DICK erry time you load up dat crunchyroll shit. Fuckin flabby ass ramen eatin muthafuka

>> No.17826119

>>17826116
I have a loving waifu and you don't.
Na-na-na-na poo poo stick your head in doo do.
:v) Lel

>> No.17826124

>>17826119
lol you ain't got shit but pocky an cum rags. yo momma no u sweet?

>> No.17826128

>>17826124
I can't understand your accent.

>> No.17826131

>>17826128
You're gay.

>> No.17826135

>>17826131
You're lame and uncool. You can't join my secret club either, sorry.

>> No.17826136
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>>17826059
>>17826074
>>17826090
>>17826106
>>17826110
kek

>> No.17826145

>>17826135
iz dt da club where dere only one gay ass nigga in it?

good cuz I ain't a gay ass nigga.

>> No.17826150

>>17826145
You'll never know what club it is because you're not invited. You have to stay at this club over here
(Stupid Club) < - - - That one.

>> No.17826157

>>17826150
yeah u an yo wafui pillw got a real bomb ass club goin on g. u let me know when you ain't gay. mebbe i feel bad den

>> No.17826165

>>17826157
Let me know when you ain't a weenie. Maybe I'll take your posts seriously.

>> No.17826169

>>17826165
lol nigga u gay

>> No.17826171

>>17825951
No, it's what suburban middle class overprotective parents allowing their kids to be raised by jewish escapist media and unsupervised internet access and develop a unnatural view of reality looks like.
The cure for waifuism is reading "Beautiful Fighting Girl" by Saito Tamaki. Either that, or a bitchslap and a visit to the gym.

>> No.17826174

>>17826169
Lel weenie u a silly billy and a goopy buddy

>> No.17826179

>>17826171
Oh fuck off. There is nothing wrong with having a waifu

>> No.17826188

>>17826174
yea but u gay

>>17826179
kek nigga u gay

>> No.17826192

>>17826179
>there is nothing wrong with having a waifu
Sure, which anime told you that, anon?
;^)

>> No.17826205
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17826205

>>17826188
You're just repetitious. There are many different insults. Let me show you:
>You're a fucker, a loser, a scumbag, a fiend, and a a harbinger of idiocy
Get a little creative.
>>17826192
Me. I told myself that because I reviewed the activity and found nothing to be wrong with it.

>> No.17826211

>>17826205
nigga you straight-ass gay.

>> No.17826213

>>17826211
You just straight ass retarded

>> No.17826217

>>17826213
u be gay doe.

>> No.17826219

>>17826217
Only according to some retard on 4chan.

>> No.17826224

>>17826219
an YO MOMMA.

she know, yo.

>> No.17826230

>>17826224
Oooh, an oh momma joke Is this 2005 or something? Are you going to post a rage comic too? Why don't you go back to le-eddit with the other normies who know nothing about waifu's, you'll be in better company

>> No.17826232

>>17826230
u gay.

>> No.17826236

>>17826232
u dumb

>> No.17826239

>>17826236
u gay.

>> No.17826246

>>17826239
u smell

>> No.17826259

>>17825951
>Is this what late stage capitalism looks like?
No, it wasn't unheard of to fall in love with fictional being. It was big deal in medieval world, where people fell in love with someone they've only heard stories about.

>> No.17826269

>>17826246
u gay.

>>17826259
gay ass niggas.

>> No.17826276

>>17826269
You're a very stupid man with very little knowledge of waifu's. I will forever be able to enjoy the mental worlds of joy and bliss of being with my perfect mate. You will never, ever, know that joy.

>> No.17827276
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>>17825951
Essentially, >>17826006 and >>17826055, but the latter is a repressed homosexual in light of his emphasis on OC donut steel-ness. Can confirm about the former anon, though.

t. beaner /fit/ Takaofag

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>>17827276
Oh and about books on this, just focus on the philosophy of love which, contrary to popular belief, you can experience love without having any social interaction whatsoever; how do you think religious hermits feel God's love and never become disillusioned about their beliefs?

>> No.17827329

>>17825951
Petrarchan love poetry in the modern age. Instead of knights writing tortured love poetry about young mistresses who’ll they’ll never marry, dudes jack off to anime characters who’ll never exist.

>> No.17827401

>>17826246
>>17826239
>>17826232
>>17826269
>/lit/: literature
Why do I even come to this nest of aspies and mental midgets?

I oftentimes wonder at the range of intellect present in human beings. Is there any other creature in existence that can either be as intelligent as a demigod or a bumbling buffoon?


>can't even spell out the word (you) on a fucking literature board.
People like you, (u) or (U), should be rounded up and gassed Tyrone.

>> No.17827425

>>17827401
stfu u gay faggt

>> No.17827599
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17827599

>>17827401
How noble in reason, how infinite in faculties,
in form and moving how express and admirable,
in action how like an angel, in apprehension how like a god! The beauty of the world, the paragon of animals!

>> No.17827676

>>17825951
Carl Jung

>> No.17827678

>>17825957
Your waifu exists because some poor jap was alienated from the means of production

>> No.17827793

>>17826055
Good take, I fully agree

Waifuism is cool if you have a unique obsession, if you're just into Rei best girl or some shit like that you're a boring fag

>> No.17827800

>>17825951
Not about waifus but Fishers Capitalist Realism might be what you're looking for.

>> No.17827832
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>>17826074
>>17826069
>>17826059
>>17826055
I don't think niggers or their dialect are funny sojak. They're quite lugubrious, in fact. The poverty of their grammar is as disturbing as their bootlips or their ill-proportioned simian arms.

>> No.17827871

Proust talks about how love is an inner phenomenon, which has little to do with the specific characteristics of the loved person, and about how the object of love is always an inner image of the loved person, an image which is necessarily imperfect, and every meeting with the loved person causes this image to change and move closer to reality. I think he would have liked the idea of a waifu.

>> No.17827880

>>17825957
Before you do that, who is it?

>> No.17827883

>>17827599
I literally copied and pasted that and was about to post it before I saw you post it

>> No.17827888

>>17826055
That’s exactly what the Japanese creators do though. For example, the creator of the immensely popular Re:Zero started writing because he wanted to write the story’s heroine, Emilia. You can find similar stories all over that world.

>> No.17827891

>>17825983
thanks, i'm blind and i was wondering what the picture said :)

>> No.17827900

>>17826171
Beautiful Fighting Girl is a post-modern critical theorist book and inspired a wave of critical theory of race and gender takes on anime. Have you even read the book?

>> No.17827906

>>17825951
I’m extremely lonely and prone to both dissatisfaction with the real world and imaginary escapism. It’s that simple.

>> No.17827912

>>17825983
also that audio felt way longer than a minute

>> No.17827964

>>17826043
>do people really do that
No they just retitle their mental illness with something nice but unrelated

>> No.17827997

>>17826179
Every second you have breath the interest accumulates deeper and deeper

>> No.17828172

>>17825957
Who's your waifu?

>> No.17828209

>>17827401
u nerd

>> No.17828234

>>17825951
My waifu is known only to myself and the person that roleplayed as her.

>> No.17828259

>>17826276
>>17827401
lol y'all two shud date

>> No.17828271

>>17825983
Return to/mu/.

>> No.17828301

>>17826006
does that mean we can just inject dopamine or waifu chemicals and get the same effect?

>> No.17828353

>>17825951
It's not that hard to understand. It's just loneliness. I will never be with a real woman, so having a waifu is a close enough analogue to real companionship and gives me something akin to happiness and fulfillment. It's not the same, of course, but I don't care; I just want to feel some amount of love even if it is fake.

>> No.17828391

bros does love for a fictional character that exists only inside my head also count as waifusim?

>> No.17829625

>>17828391
Yes

>> No.17829738

i saw the exact same shit in a medieval japanese woman's travel journal. what was her name again?

>> No.17829826

>>17826006
>>Did you know that your brain doesn’t process the difference between a real person and a fake person of you fall in love with them? Your brain processes it as a real crush/love. You have genuine feelings for the character.
I literally fell in love with a character I made and my feelings are as real as when I was with my actual gfs. I thought I was going insane.
Can you link a source for this?

>> No.17829903

>>17826171
How is Beautiful Fighting Girl a cure? if anything it's a glorification.

>> No.17830395

Perhaps there are two types of waifuism: as cope for failure in the real world (>>17828353), in which case it may be a deliberate choice, and as spontaneous, real love.
I think to love and to be loved are two different needs, and loving is the better of the two.

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>>17825951
my waifu does exist ---- in the virtual future from which she is constructed

>> No.17830641

>>17829826
>I literally fell in love with a character I made and my feelings are as real as when I was with my actual gfs. I thought I was going insane.
Based.
Can you describe her?

>> No.17830680

>>17830641
I won't open that can of spaghetti, anon, she's not human. And I'm a bit jealous too desu.

>> No.17830729

>>17830680
>I won't open that can of spaghetti, anon, she's not human.
...Saya tulpa gf?

>> No.17830742

>>17830680
At least she's a she. Or is she?

>> No.17830784

I fell in love with a girl in my dreams but I've never met her IRL.

I didn't choose my waifu, she chose me. Now I'm debating how cuck would it be to ask another man to draw porn of her.

>> No.17830803

>>17830729
She might upgrade to tulpa status one day
>>17830742
Yes she's a she (female)
>>17830784
Don't soil your waifu with porn, anon. Think of romantic things with her.

>> No.17832343

>>17825983
Based.

>> No.17832356

>>17830784
>how cuck would it be to ask another man to draw porn of her.
Very.

Learn to draw and draw her yourself.

Remember Pygmalion.

>> No.17832475

parasocial relationships, more specifically parasocial romance, now if you find something with more depth than an article you tell me

>> No.17832484
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>>17825951
Everyone watches porn in the internet age. Its as normal as having a beer after working and watching the game

>> No.17832493

>>17826205
>repetitious
retard detected

>> No.17832526

Not really waifuism but i think i fell in love with a character. I think the type of women i liked was always a bit like her, but after reading her book i basically started to look out for someone like her and i think my preference really changed. It sucks because now 98% of women don't do anything for me with regards to love, and to judge someone based on some ideal or on some imaginary character is not really healthy.

>> No.17832584
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17832584

I have always wondered if there's a history of priests and monks making a waifu out of their guardian angels.

>> No.17832617
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>>17825951
>What are some books that explain the phenomenon of Waifuism, or love for fictional characters?
Beautiful Fighting Girl does explain it somewhat.

But for me, it’s Mai-san.

>> No.17832773

Nostalgical, and romantical, longing for one's anima/animus at its best; obsessive infatuation with an unrealizable fantasy at its worst.

>> No.17832794

>>17829826
Hmm creating a tulpa gf doesn't seem such a bad idea after all

>> No.17832802

My waifu wouldn't even look at me if she was real.

I use this knowledge to better myself.

>> No.17832906

>>17832584
Of course.
Not all of them were child molesters

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>>17826055
I got "Mary-as-waifu" vibes from picrel when describing charles martel's inspiration. is that gay?

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>>17825951
What are some novels or stories where it's clear they were wrote because the author wanted to write about their waifu?

>> No.17833599

>>17825951

>every bad thing
>capitalism

Jesus fucking christ you people are a literal cult.

>> No.17833620

>>17825974
yeah hes cool and i do like jung but fuck if its tiring that his only mode of analysis is jung, if not mentioning aleister crowley a couple times. hate his magic larping shit too

>> No.17833634

>>17827832
ahh, a fellow thesaurus.com synonymer

>> No.17834492
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>>17826043
Consider the possibility that we are all fragments of the universal mind and you falling in love with a being fragmented from your own mind is analogous to the universal mind falling in love with it's own fragmented beings. In falling in love with your imaginary waifu you have become godlike.

>> No.17834521

>>17826088
me too. it's time to abolish them all.

>> No.17834526

unironically, fight club

>> No.17834576

I've had a waifu for 13 years now, I've lived these past 13 years praying every night for God to kill me.
I've denied sexual advances from multiple women, I've lived a good life as an honest man to try and deserve to be with her.
If I had to, I'd wait 1000 years to be with her.

I've kept my feelings for her a secret from my family, my younger brother may know the surface, but the depth of my despair and madness is sure to be lost to him.

I still choose to function as a normal human, despite the self inflicted psychosis that I may or may not be experiencing.
I sincerely believe that I don't deserve to be with her. And my greatest fear is that one day I'll stand before the Lord who will welcome me to Heaven, but she won't be there.

I would rather my soul be cast to the void than to know an eternity without her.

>> No.17834603

>>17834576
is it at least a waifu that you made, seriously >>17826106 couldn't be more right if you waifu something from a franchise, especially if it's anime

>> No.17834610

>>17832584
Beatrice was pretty much exactly Dante's waifu.

Sure, Beatrice Portinari was a real person, but Dante had almost no interation with her. He met her once at a party when they were both nine, then saw her briefly two or three times thereafter (and they barely spoke). They both married other people; she died in her early twenties, and he went on loving her till he died, aged 50-ish.

Of course it's possible that the girl he made up and worshipped in his head bore some resemblance to the physical person but I doubt it was that close. She was fairly unremarkable by all accounts, and he puts her third in heaven (under Mary and Eve; level with Rachel). He thought she was literally the third best woman ever to live.

>> No.17834614

>>17825951
my diary desu

>> No.17834618

>>17825983
based nigger

>> No.17834624
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>>17834603

Dear friend, do you not see that simply inferring that she would love me, or even want to know me, makes her a figment of my own imagination?

That's a part of the despair friend, to love something not beholden to it's own whims, but to that of another. At any moment the character could be changed or killed off, and I will be left knowing that what I loved was gone.

Are we all not beings made up of the whims of another? By your logic, any woman raised by a man would be gay to love, because they were shaped by that man.

I love my waifu no differently than you would love a real woman.

>> No.17834634

>>17832484
[citation needed]

>> No.17834643

>>17834624
>Are we all not beings made up of the whims of another? By your logic, any woman raised by a man would be gay to love, because they were shaped by that man.
But she's not someone's daughter, she's more like someone's sexual fantasy... and you're sharing her with all the other people who made her their "waifu"... that's super cucked famalam, try to find the real waifu behind the corporate otaku bait, you're following a false idol

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>>17828234
How hard would it be to get an escort to roleplay as your waifu? Asking for a friend

>> No.17834667

>>17834644
I've read several accounts from prostitutes who've been asked to role-play as Asuka from Evangelion, etc. They don't mind. The most common problem is when the client has a really specific idea in his head of how this person has to sound and the prostitute can't get it right and the client gets frustrated and annoyed. The more you pay the better your experience is like to be. Very expensive prostitutes are often good actresses.

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17834668

>>17834644
>hire morally disgusting prostitute (already a loss on step 1)
>direct team of people making makeup/animatronics
>find a voice actress with the right voice
>all for a subpar recreation of my daydreams

>> No.17834675

>>17834668
based

>> No.17834684
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17834684

I love Akari

>> No.17834686
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>>17834643
>implying every fictional female is sexual in nature.

Not a strong argument friend.
I am indifferent to who else may love her, from my perspective, that proves that 1. I have a good waifu. and 2. I am not alone in my despair.

There's no more a false idol than one you've made yourself, yet you claim that a self made waifu is somehow better? That's entirely a sexual character, you may as well make a custom porn character your waifu.

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>ctrl+f "goddess"
>0 results

>> No.17834711

>>17834624
love isn't an indepdent emotion. What you'e feeling is infatuation and narcicissm.

>> No.17834712

>>17834686
Anime waifus are literally made to appeal to hormonal teens. It's like being in love with Elsa from Frozen. It's something made by committee. But if that makes you happy...

>> No.17834716

>>17834667
money really isnt a problem, but I have no idea where to find high-class escorts. They probably dont even exist in my country

>> No.17834754

>>17834711

The only correlation I have with Narcissus is that we're both drowning, only I can't seem to drown fast enough.

>>17834712

She's from a game, made back in 2001, I first loved her in 2008.

>> No.17834792

>>17834644
>>17834667
I wonder if there are any escort agencies that specialize in this? If not, there ought to be. Let's write a business plan.

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>> No.17834801

>>17834754
>She's from a game, made back in 2001
Is it Freya Crescent? The girl from Oni? Shrek from Shrek: Fairy Tale Freakdown?

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>>17825983

>> No.17834822
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>>17834801

No, her ORIGINAL game was released in Japan back in 2001, and I'd talk more but it's sleep time.

>> No.17834826

>>17834822
The girl from Fatal Frame???

>> No.17834851

>>17834792
uh oh, roasties arent going to like this one

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>>17834822
>>17834826
it's Pelly from Animal Crossing, isn't it... I won't judge you anon, you can tell me

>> No.17834944

>>17834792
based

>> No.17836009

>>17825983
Helping the blind, one post at a time.

>> No.17836030

the plague of fantasies by zizek might be what you're looking for

>> No.17836043

>>17825951
Most people who are in love are in love with fictional characters, they usually just base their headcanon off of reality.

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17836197

>>17834610
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BEATORICHE

>> No.17836264

I've had the most intense and most loving sex of my life with my tulpa, after we got married

>> No.17837432

>>17834576
You should write a book about it desu

>> No.17837459

>>17837432
>tfw you write a book about your waifu but you're hit with a DMCA

>> No.17837487

>>17825951
It's not a real thing, just a larp for attention

>> No.17837516

>>17825951

This is actually much better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpzyQJJ8R0Y

>> No.17837605

>>17837487
I actually thought the waifu stuff was nothing like what I did and more of a beating one's meat to anime characters thing, but >>17825951 is literally me
I have a collection of scenes in my head that I go through every day and the level of complexity and detail is astounding

>> No.17837802

>>17837516
RIP Autiste.

>> No.17838027

>>17827871
I used to watch a lot of anime but never got that attached to any of the female characters. Conversely, for at least the past ten years I've been obsessed with a woman to the point where the version of her in my head no longer has anything to do with the real person. Falling in love with fictional versions of real people is more common, more dangerous, and more pathetic.

>> No.17838084

the Divine Comedy

>> No.17838349

>>17826043
There was a period in my life where I found real girls immensely disappointing.
I'm convinced it was a form of mental illness, but they had issues with attitude that I couldn't tolerate or physical imperfections I just couldn't ignore.
I turned to animé simply because it presented perfect women sin terms of personality and appearance.
The instigating event for my break-up with my first "serious" girlfriend was that I once saw a hair poking out of one of her nostrils and it disgusted me.
I sort of CBT'd myself out of that mindset.

>> No.17838503

>>17838349
>I turned to animé simply because it presented perfect women
I hope it was well drawn anime girls... like Motoko from GITS...

>> No.17838531

I swear you niggas blame capitalism for everything. You could trip down the stairs and your stupid ass would blame capitalism for making you dizzy or something.

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>>17827793
>Waifuism is cool if you have a unique obsession

it´s never cool you dumb fuck, having delusions about being with an anime girl is the lowest you can get and the first step towards schizophrenia

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>>17825951
Does it count as a ‘waifu’ if you invented them yourself? I.E. they’re not based on any existing media, I created their character in my head. I’ve had this for some years now.

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>>17836197
Based and Goldsmith-pilled

>> No.17839365

>>17839287
>having delusions about being with an anime girl is the lowest you can get and the first step towards schizophrenia
could be worse anon, could be ponies

>> No.17839368

>>17832802
same desu

>> No.17839375

>>17832617
>But for me, it’s Mai-san.

that´s a whore

>> No.17839405

>>17834684
i licked her anime pussy

>> No.17839421

>>17839365
same shit

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>>17838027
Every impression you've ever developed of a person (including yourself) is shit you made up in your head, only loosely anchored to who they are "objectively". A relationship with an anime girl is actually more real than with an actual woman because there's no such disconnect

>> No.17839480

>>17839405
weebs on suicide watch
can you imagine loving something that countless people desecrated with hentai doujins and endless fap sessions?

>> No.17839567

>>17825983
wanna be my bf

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>>17839442
I'm glad to see that there are men of high culture and intellect that continue to peruse this board.

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>>17826043
It's essentially an admission that they're only compatible with themselves. It's narcissism as a coping mechanism for their crippling loneliness.

>> No.17840699

>>17826101
g fck rslf, psdntllctl cmmnst rtrd.

>> No.17840722

>>17840689
sounds b a s e d

>> No.17840727

>>17826101
You will never be initiated into the esoteric Hermetic Order of classical antiquity.

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>>17834703

>> No.17840740

>>17839442
Only autists believe that this is the case.

>> No.17841325

>>17826171
yea, no. Tamaki justifies waifuism. He also loves Lacan.

>> No.17841414
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Waifu. A divisive term. I hazard to say that its definition is as varied as it is held to be true and thus discussions regarding waifuism have a tendency to go nowhere fast. In any case, we should also define love which is multifaceted. Plato tells us that love in itself isn't a good but requires good intention to be differentiated from lower forms (i.e. lust). In this regard, true love is directed not towards the appearance of the person or his status but rather towards the inward self and virtue; moreover, it tends towards the divine: a clearly intangible being. It seems to me that insofar as your love is true and thereby differentiated explicitly from lust and the constraints of physicality, it is closer to the ideal of love. I ask you: does the waifu, necessarily intangible, and dimensionally perfect, not more readily allow for the cultivation what might be termed divine eros? What's more, can the waifu, necessarily an unreachable ideal, not only more readily manifest virtuous behavior but also drive those whose hearts have been pierced by this 2D arrow to attempt to develope such virtue?

To me, the answer appears yes, but I am writing this whilst eating toast and shitposting on other boards.

I must add: that one can love something intangible is incontrovertible; the better question is whether or not you, anon, can even love at all

>> No.17841438

>>17841414
I feel like I'm cheating on my waifu and debasing myself when I lust after 3DPD.
She really is my Beatrice, my furry Beatrice...

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>>17825951
>Post wall (older than 15 and/or non virgin) 3d girls are jealous of ideal 2d girls. Female nature has been uncovered for every men to see, the inferior men will deny the truth and will be obliterated by the system. But those who accept the truth no longer will see women as an equal but rather as an inferior slave. One could argue that if 3d women understood their current situation they would do everything in their power to be like the ideal 2d girls. But reality shows that either 3d women are not capable of being aware of their situation, condition and fate or they know it, but they wont change, because they cant or they dont want to. But even if women started acting like 2d girls since the very beginning (age 12 lets say) until death, it wouldnt mater. Men already know the truth. Women can be enslaved and mass produced to be like ideal 2d lolis, and they will. GMO lolis will be farmed if they are not being farmed as we speak.Traditionalism can only appeal to plebs. Because between left overs/nothing and only one virgin the plebs will go and die for the virgin. But in this system every men on the elite already have hundreds of virgins and soon they will have more. And the so called traditionalists are nothing more than white knighting who are simping for literal cougars. Its funny seeing all this womenposting, they really want you to marry them when they hit the wall, they are desperate because by age 20-21 they start to see that, if they fail to spermjack some fool, they will become wageslaves for life and wont have families nor fancy goods and services. Globohomo is beautifull. The white knights are crushed and women enslaved. And those who aim for the ideal 2d wifus will get all the 3d wifus, but the 3d wifus will never get any of them other than sex. Maybe if the cougars are good wagies they will get a sperm donation free of child support. Men will buy the eggs that they really like (no the leftover trashy wife that they could afford, with all the dysgenics that this implies) instead they will choose really genetically compatible women eggs (the women that they really like) and just rent the wombs. The only think that doesnt exist is the men coming to save you OP. Not saying that there no longer are white knights out there, but they are the kind of guys that you would reject no matter how fucked up you are. Its over for you OP. Im going to enjoy the finest 2d loli porn of the modern age, enjoy your cats wagie. Dont get to ragie, and go back to cagie, dont forget (its monday).

>> No.17842505

>>17842455
refute this

>> No.17842574

>>17840689
>narcissism

can you explain why is that?

>> No.17842581

>>17839375
That’s my wife you’re talking about.

>> No.17842586

>>17842581
a slut who likes to fuck around

>> No.17842590

>>17842455
Not to incel post but I live in a University town and the way these young girls have begun to look, behave, present is really very off putting and kind of gross. I do think it’s true that they’re not interested in the ideal. They actually do the opposite.

>> No.17842598

>>17840689
Isn’t it just as possible that the people around them aren’t compatible with them? It’s really not an absurdity to say the dating pool has gotten grim.

>> No.17842615

>>17832802
This is going to sound pathetic but I don’t care. One of the biggest wake up moments for me was when I realized that even the loneliest, most socially maladjusted, most damaged, most pathetic anime protagonist was still aesthetically ideal. You simply cannot be the protagonist without it.

>> No.17842619
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17842619

SOON BROTHERS.

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>>17826043
I haven't really fallen in love with any of them, but they fucked over my standards so much that I've been rejecting women left and right, just because they don't look as good as my waifu.

>> No.17842627

Simulacra and simulation maybe

>> No.17842629
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17842629

>>17838027
I too have developed an unhealthy obsession not based in reality on a real life girl, whose image in my head is probably nothing like what she is irl

>> No.17842703

>>17842624
I really do believe that a lot of the real girls have just sunken kind of low desu. It’s not just fucked standards. I really believe that.

>> No.17842732

>>17842455
>haha jokes on them, they will suffer in the end!
stop humanizing human beings, retard

>> No.17842827

>>17830395
I often think this too, loving my waifu is basically its own reward, i kinda do feel as if she loves me back sometimes when she comes alive in my imagination but that's really not the important thing to me. When i feel really close to her its the best feeling in the world and i can't stop smiling, a few times it has made me so i happy that i couldn't help but laugh and cry.

>> No.17842850

>>17830803
>>17830680
Were you trying to make a pony tulpa, anon? You can tell me, it's fine.

>> No.17842884

>>17842850
I know the dangers of equine tulpas, anon. But she is not one. Not that anything would stop me in the pursuit of her love. In her name I am willing to face the dormant Leviathan of madness, with or without the help of Jackie Chan...

>> No.17842987

I am not very into anime, but I have experienced a seemingly related kind of infatuation that I wonder how it fits in with this. I'm not sure if it could be called love. Its a real girl, but one I have only ever seen on a screen, so that in itself is sort of a weird space between 2d and 3d. She is exceedingly beautiful and of course only puts out the small part of her personality that she wants people to see. So I am aware that a large extent of what I 'love' about her are things my mind made up to fill in the blanks. I have absolutely no desire to meet or talk to her in reality, I am not a creep or a despicable groomer. I do of course day dream about such interaction, but All interaction and obsession is in my head, I do not even obsessively check her online presence, but I do think about her constantly. And the infatuation is very pure, there is not much sexual about it at all.

I have actually experienced this a few times, the first time was the strongest and there was a small community of people that felt the same. Since then there has been one girl that I am infatuated with on my own. The entire time I experienced this, I had a real life gf, albeit long distance. So for me its not some lack of affection in my life. I genuinely don't know what causes it, and in all other cases I do not care at all about internet or media based girls, nor do I seem to be leading the life that most other people that fall into this kind of obsession do (ie I am successfully pursuing my passion, have a supportive family, a loving gf). I don't know how similar this is to waifuism, but I feel that I very much understand where they're coming from, and appreciate the purity and emotion of an infatuation that is at the end of the purely mental.

>> No.17843009

>>17842574
What else would you call someone falling in romantic love with a piece of their own imagination?

>> No.17843506

>>17843009
...based?

>> No.17844175

I was dedicated to my waifu for a good 6 years, but now Im thinking of praying to Pellas Athena I can nearly feel her bros send help I'm scared

>> No.17844246

>>17844175
That woman is a literal headache and doesn't even put out. Not worth your time

>> No.17844251

>>17844175
how can you feel her? does she talk to you?

>> No.17844255

>>17844175
Unfathomably based and Pagan-pilled

>> No.17844304

Anime girls are the modern day Helen. Through anime we have transcendent the biological limitations of human females to achieve a true higher beauty, currently unattainable by any biological organism.

>> No.17844369

>>17844304
Anime girls look retarded tho.

>> No.17844453

>>17844369
if beauty is in the eye of the beholder, you a blind ass nigga

>> No.17844487

>>17844453
You can't even draw an anime girl looking up properly because they literally only function from the front and the side
they're bad as women and bad as drawings

>> No.17844541

>>17844487
i lol'd. anime girls thoroughly REFUTED.

>> No.17844567
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>>17844487
>bad as women
as opposed to what? 3D?

>> No.17844619

>>17825951

Mental Illness. In my experience it tends to embody some manner of cope for someone who is for whatever reason unable to form meaningful romantic and sexual relationships with another human being- thereby resulting in a spiral of degeneracy in which they form an emotional attachment to a fictional character whom they co-opt as a means of battling whatever inadequacies may permeate their existence.

I'm not aware of any literature that would meaningfully touch on waifuism as a phenomena specifically, however, there are a number of psychological studies and inquiries that have been conducted regarding the nature of parasociality with fictional characters and possible therapeutic benefits so that may be an informative place to start your research.

Much like individuals throughout this thread have noted there's nothing "wrong" with having a waifu in that it wouldn't appear to directly harm anyone- however- that does not diminish what an utterly pathetic & pitiful practice it is for those who engage in it. I personally fear it holds them back from "real" social development, although I could see that it may benefit them by in the very least providing some manner of simulated sociality by which they could develop comfort in interacting with humans over time.

I simply don't understand why such an individual does not adopt a pet such as a dog or a cat that have been found to reduce stress, anxiety, depression, and lessen feelings of loneliness- but perhaps this may arise from an inability to care for such organisms (let alone an ability to self-care) which would be an indictment of their mental state.

Many individuals see these people as losers and truthfully they would embody characteristics that could be described as such, but I believe teaching these individuals how to be strong and socially active would be far more beneficial for their health and impact on society than needlessly mocking them. Regardless, change must occur.

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>>17844567
How does it feel when a fox is more expressive than your waifu while showing head angles that aren't possible to her?

>> No.17844671

>>17844619
>dont project your ideal image of a partner on a 2D drawing, project it on a pet or 3D roastie instead
What normalfags are doing is just as pathetic, 99% of them are in love with the idea of a person in their head, not the person itself

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>>17842590
I am successful with hot women despite my 4chan, and I will tell you right now that the tik-tok teen types are beautiful but soulless and satanic. Many girls and young women look beautiful but are spiritually poisoned, and one who fears God can smell the stench of their satanic influence.

>> No.17844690

>>17844665
>hey look at me I'm a furry, aren't you going to get mad?
No.

>> No.17844691

>>17844665
my waifu is a fox
checkmate

>> No.17844725

>>17844671

Perhaps in terms of the development of a "crush", however, in many instances this notion of a projected image of love rapidly deteriorates upon actual interaction with those individuals which is something I suspect you lack based on your reply (would indicate a lack of familiarity with that aspect of human relationship).

There are instances of a relationship in which partners may continue to embrace an idealized version of each-other but I can not confess to those being very common. In many cases friendship and relationships include "opening yourself up" to another individual- which of course results in break-ups and people drifting apart but can also be an overwhelmingly meaningful experience for those involved. Online relationships are of course an exception considering each partner has the capacity to present themselves in a very specific and idealized manner simply due to the manner of communication.

I would encourage you seek therapy or some manner of social interaction- your behavior is for all intents and purposes likely to be unhealthy for you and not conducive to actual development. Those whom you deride as "normies" are also those who ultimately hold power over your existence so it's crucial you grow individually as opposed to continuing to spiral into this manner of mental illness you have embraced and rationalized as having characteristics of normality.

>> No.17844746

>>17825951
The Portrait Of The Lover by Maurizio Bettini.

This book goes to prove that love over inanimate objects bearing human features starts with the Greeks, peaks with the Romans, and carrys on forever in human history.

>> No.17844757

>>17844304
My waifu is from a book. Anime girls are one dimensional and retarded. The people who like them are low t idiots.

>> No.17844769

>>17844757

Having a waifu is in and of itself low T and idiotic, regardless of format.

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>>17844690
Not even a little?

>> No.17844802

>>17844757
Actually, they're two dimensional.

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I think it's a disillusionment with this world and an infatuation with the ideal that might be the bud of a true spiritual awakening if tended properly. Most won't go down that virtuous path, but still, it's better than being a normalfag that wallows in the mud with glee instead of seeing it for what it is.

>> No.17844831

>>17844777
Why would you want me to be mad with you when we could be friends instead?

>> No.17844842

>>17844725
lots of assumptions in your post, the ones I made were based on my own experience instead of speculation. I realized quite quickly in relationships that I had loved the image in my head not the person itself (as you say in first paragraph). That is what people commonly refer to as honeymoon period.
But what remained when the image was gone? A whore. There is a reason majority of marriages end in divorce, because almost everyone realizes that other person is shit compared to their internal image of them. In fact I would bet almost every marriage would end in it if it wasnt still somewhat socially inconvenient with possibility of kids involved. So they are forced to resentfully indure each other forever. Its also funny how widowed women usually idealize their dead partners because him being dead makes it easier to cope with the fact that he didnt align with the image in her head.
Maybe it was possible in the past when the social conditions were different but now its just over for both sexes (with men probably being fucked over more). Now everyone needs a coping mechanism for the fact that their partner is used goods/manchild/whatever which can only work for so long.
So in conclusion I am not some incel you try to paint me as, I just dont sneer at weebs who cope with 2D waifus when every normalfag has his own similar coping ritual

>> No.17844859

>>17844831
Alright, alright. I can't turn down a fren.
Just advocate for well drawn waifus

>> No.17845023

>>17844842

>lots of assumptions in your post, the ones I made were based on my own experience instead of speculation...

Yes, I only suspected certain characteristics but could not make a definitive assessment of your character (how could anyone on 4chan)- so I thank you for your patience if they were ultimately conjecture. Oftentimes those who levy those statements are (at least in my experience) similar to the characteristics I described so to see an exception is interesting.

>I realized quite quickly in relationships that I had loved the image in my head not the person itself (as you say in first paragraph). That is what people commonly refer to as honeymoon period. But what remained when the image was gone? A whore...

This is an interesting idea. I'm not certain about what you meant in sections of this text, but, for the most part I've always understood this phenomena as occurring because individuals are capable of immense growth which results in a host of dynamic character traits that evolve over time. In the very same manner that a friendship may drift apart I have oftentimes understood romantic & sexual relationships in that same context (although perhaps I negate stability as a factor). You make a number of fascinating proposals regarding the possible dissolution of relationships in the event of a lack of tangible responsibility. That relationships are founded on immense idealism is something I agree with, but, I have often felt that that they also include some manner of (uncertain if this is the correct term) "passive codependency" in which characteristics of each partner complete that of the other and in doing so such individuals remain engaged with one another simply for the stake of a continuous source of stability and love (which appears to be something many individuals seek). I fear you may be too cynical about relationships although your conclusions certainly carry some manner of merit, I would also point you towards "pragmatic relationships" as they're a particularly fascinating intersection of what we're discussing.

>Now everyone needs a coping mechanism

Not certain about this. If we are to assume that individuals can break-up with one another and that this can lead to a string of both failed and successful relationships (failed due to having ended, successful emotionally)- then I believe that carries a number of implications pertaining to the family unit as well.

>So in conclusion I am not some incel you try to paint me as...

Yes, it certainly seems I have misjudged you so it would be proper to apologize. Regardless, I disagree with your equivalency of "weebs" to "normalfags". It's possible that both carry their own coping mechanisms and that this is largely destructive in its own right, however, the crux of my own response moreso had to do with the uncomfortability associated with sociality that permeates waifuism as opposed to the utilization of idealism (which you explore in your response).

>> No.17845056

I assume the people who daydream about the waifu have really good imagination? How many of you draw or try to draw?

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>>17827289
>>17827276
Tell me more.

>> No.17845357

>>17825951
Just read the Possible Girls paper.

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>>17844686
>one who fears God
Imagine having Stockholm Syndrome with an imaginary friend that somebody else invented for you

>> No.17845392

>>17845023
I am too tired to adress everything properly so I will just try to poorly state my theory so you might see better at what I am getting at.
Essentially I believe that in the past the gulf between what people expected in the partner against what they eventually got in their partner was much smaller. Imagine for example europe few centuries ago. Men were expecting to get a hardworking christian wife, and women were expecting to get a hardworking christian husband. That was also what society itself was geared to. It didnt always work, but I would say most got what was advertised.
Jump to the present. You have every media pushing expectations on both sexes that are not only unrealistic, but almost antithetical to reality. Meanwhile the actual quality of human stock has objectivly plummeted. I also believe once peoples expectations are build in their formative years they arent going to be changed in 20s or 30s. So how can relationships even work? Simple, you need a mild form of mental illness, close to delusion, similar to waifuism, where you fall in love with the image in your own head that you project on person vastly inferior to it. Luckily biological programming helps with this to some extents. But as some time passes you start seeing cracks in the facade. This is what I refered to as coping mechanism. Eventually when you get enough information about other person it will simply malfunction and fail.
I expect the situation to only worsen, as people get fatter, dumber and uglier, while propaganda about what you need in your ideal partner increases.
The ironic part here might be that weebs have a more realistic perception of their fake gfs, while normalfags have fake perception of their real gfs.
I would say I only know one couple my age and very few my parents age (including them) to whom this doesnt apply. I myself am not immune to it ofcourse. Sorry for any typos I am ESL who need to sleep.

>> No.17845557

>>17845386
(u)

>> No.17845706

>>17844686
It’s not the tiktok types and they’re not beautiful. At least where I live, these girls just don’t care at all. They don’t put in any effort and they present as trash. They also just don’t seem to care about anything real, genuine, or actually in the sphere of experience.

>> No.17845757

>>17845392
>Imagine for example europe few centuries ago. Men were expecting to get a hardworking christian wife, and women were expecting to get a hardworking christian husband.
I can give you an actual generational account from my family (late XIX, early XX rural), and... well a whole lot of old society was still about appearances, muck like today except limited to your rural village of 300 people who know everything you do. Old times were better in some ways but I think people are romanticizing them way too much. The only difference is that both parties agreed on keeping up the appearances while today there are no compromises. This meant: husband is a drunkard asshole who beats you? You stay quiet and pretend it's all right, because the shame of leaving your husband is greater than the misery of being beaten. You have a retarded child? You literally keep him in the barn, hidden from other people. This stuff, people beating their wife, was all normal, and it wasn't even taboo. If a woman complained to another that her husband was beating her, the other woman would have said "eh, such is life, just don't you ever think of leaving him that'd be terrible".
There are also deeply human stories that today probably wouldn't exist, but old couples were definitely NOT these loving Christian couples on average, or at least this is not the impression I got from the accounts I've been given. There was a lot of mean, ugly shit that was swept under the rug.
Frankly the only reason why the institution of wedding worked in the first place was because women were literally trained to serve their husbands from birth. As soon as women sought rights for themselves this whole situation was doomed to crumble. I think both situations are bad, of course the ideal would be to have free women with rights AND a solid sense of family but human nature is like that.

>> No.17845936

>>17845757
>This stuff, people beating their wife, was all normal, and it wasn't even taboo.
You say this as if this structure is not worth romanticizing and pining for. It took me little time to realize that arguing with a woman is so illogical and fruitless , and it took me a long time to realize if it were simply acceptable to smack her down a peg and move on, things would be so much easier, for both parties, and happier, at least for my party. I agree, human nature is like that. Women sought rights and were given them, so it is what it is.

>> No.17845957

>>17845757
>because women were literally trained to serve their husbands from birth.
It’s the least they could do in a marriage, which is quite a gynocentric institution as is, much less in today’s matriarchal society

>> No.17846066

>>17845936
I said that the women were compliant with this, but it's not like they were not suffering and this wasn't unfair to them. They were not brainwashed zealots, they just endured unbearable shit and coped by going nuts or hardening like crazy or drinking. The accounts of those who ran away were that they were cancelled. They'd legit say my daughter is dead rather than say that she escaped a terrible marriage that was driving her insane.
This wasn't the default but things often fell somewhere around this, and if a decent woman happened in a shitty marriage she was fucked for life.
I know that women today are shit, feminism has gone full retard decades ago and human beings in general have little humanity left, but I can't with a straight face listen to that shit and think that everything was fine and dandy back then.
Of course there are also political implications in women's liberation, and other complex layered stuff that happened along with industrialization, but my point in this case was that the good old times were full of really awful scenarios. It wasn't all sunshine and rainbows. I don't even want to argue if it was worth getting to what we have today, and I think some degree of brainwashing is always needed - sadly - in order to make social dynamics function smoothly, just saying that
>Essentially I believe that in the past the gulf between what people expected in the partner against what they eventually got in their partner was much smaller. Imagine for example europe few centuries ago. Men were expecting to get a hardworking christian wife, and women were expecting to get a hardworking christian husband. That was also what society itself was geared to. It didnt always work, but I would say most got what was advertised.
Isn't really true, and things were often grim and unhappy and you didn't get what it said on the tin, but it was all hidden to favor appearances.

I also think that romantic escapism doesn't necessarily have to do with dating. It's probably tied with a higher sense of purpose that is missing.

>> No.17846984

>>17825951
take accessible media and lonely men, people are easier to study when they are fictional. characters in this media are typically perfected in various ways (personality, looks, etc.) with minor flaws.
it's essentially finding characters that relate to your perfect ideal of a woman and then fetishising it into sexual desire.
idolatry is a wonderful drug.

>> No.17847238

>>17844826
>it's better than being a normalfag that wallows in the mud with glee instead of seeing it for what it is.

it´s not better, keep coping animefag

>> No.17847510
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>>17825951
Unironically my visual novel: Digital Seclusion (picrelated).

I don't like self-promoting, but I've been involved and fascinated with waifuism for ~10years now so it's not a subject I'm ignorant of. It started in my early teens when I got into anime and began browsing Tohno-chan, an obscure image board where people took the concept of waifus way too seriously. And this infected my own impressionable mind as well for around a year. Eventually I permanently left that community, but I never forgot about it. The delusions of escapism were essentially a twisted form of spiritualism there. Waifuism is closely tied to being isolated and spending most of your time on a screen immersed in anime, games, VNs. Not just as a form of entertainment (or it may start that way), but eventually it becomes the only solution to counter the loneliness of utter isolation and lack of real substantial relationships in real life. Again, I did my best to express this in my VN, so if anyone is curious about a work of fiction that tackles this stuff, consider checking it out. You can find it on Itch.io.

>> No.17847589
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>>17847510
I should add, that once you are entrenched in the psychology of escapism mixed with waifuism, you become disillusioned with the real world and real people. To the extent that you see the anime world, and anime characters as an ideal realm. Its for this reason that I noticed many who get seriously into waifus wishing to die in their sleep, because they genuinely believe they will ascend into a magical 2D realm where things are better. They believed that through death, they could finally unite with their waifu. Speaking personally, I can say when I was really into this stuff, I couldn't even find real women attractive. 2D girls seemed superiors to me in every aspect, because they lacked the flaws of reality. Even after I left that community, it probably took me 2 - 3 years before I started to find real girls attractive again.

>> No.17847700

>>17846066
The narrative that most people before our time lived in a state of constant hell is just that, a narrative, these things are always given prominence for ideological reasons.

>> No.17847723

>>17825951
>late stage capitalism
Is this the dead giveaway of a midwit?

>> No.17847772
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>>17847723
I don't think so, but I'll say that there is absolutely a correlation.

>> No.17847792

>>17847772
That pic is late stage liberalism.

>> No.17848085

>>17847772
I imagine that when the US loses its next major war we will witness something akin to Xerxes' alleged flogging of the Hellespont, but directed against Euro-Americans. We have fat black women - how could the Chinese beat us? This must be because of ChiNAZI sympathizers in the military or domestic wreckers!