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Anonymous Fri Mar 19 03:56:05 2021 No.17818615 [Reply] [Original]

Christcucks btfo

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 04:20:54 2021 No.17818673 But my God is Marduk (PBUH) and he admits that he isn’t omnibenevolent

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 04:23:43 2021 No.17818676 >>17818615 Arguing with tools makes you a moron Just live your fucking life and ignore the schizo LARPing relitards

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 04:26:05 2021 No.17818684 File: 9 KB, 480x360, bart_soyman.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17818615 >Bart D. Ehrman I've seen some of this guy's lectures on YouTube, I genuinely couldn't tell if he was arguing for Christianity or against it in some videos

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 04:44:15 2021 No.17818735 >>17818615 Is this book genuinely good?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 05:12:36 2021 No.17818797 >>17818615 Bible does answer that in the first 3 chapters of the bible

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 05:13:51 2021 No.17818801 >>17818797 What is the answer?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 05:14:46 2021 No.17818803 What part of "willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known" is so difficult to understand?

Anonymous Fri Mar 19 05:22:33 2021 No.17818835

>>17818801
Satan questioned God's authority. Notice how Satan offers Jesus the world? He's in charge. Satan is basically saying all intelligent beings should be able to live or rule however they want. But history has shown the results are a complete disaster and everyone suffers which only proves God right and Satan wrong. In reality of course Satan only wants to be God and be worshipped himself. That's why he asks Jesus to do something for him https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temptation_of_Christ

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 05:24:36 2021 No.17818843 >>17818835 Brainlet here, How does that explain why we suffer?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 05:26:03 2021 No.17818848 >>17818843 Basically if you suffer it's on you because you didn't believe enough

Anonymous Fri Mar 19 05:32:50 2021 No.17818872

>>17818843
who said humans should be above suffering while on earth? Even Christ (God) suffered while on earth, what makes you think you're better than God?

>>17818848
We suffer because we fell in our father (Adam) and the whole universe groans for restoration (romans 8:22) until the final conclusion when all will be restored and God will be all in all (1 Corinthians 15:28)

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 05:37:26 2021 No.17818884 >>17818872 HAIL BASED YAH

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 05:39:24 2021 No.17818894 File: 59 KB, 320x383, soyfem.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17818615 "if God real why boo boo happen??" the book.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 05:41:17 2021 No.17818905 >>17818872 God is already all in all, we must recapitulate the virtues, this path is now open to us due to Christ assuming human nature.

Anonymous Fri Mar 19 05:42:45 2021 No.17818912

>Psalm 115:3 Our God is in heaven; he does whatever pleases him.
God is omnipotent, omniscient, etc. God exists on such an unfathomably higher plane of existence when compared to man that the notion of us lowly humans being able to understand the motivation and reasoning behind why God does what God does is hilarious at best, offensive at worst, and utterly futile in all possible attempts.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 05:46:41 2021 No.17818927 >>17818684 Perhaps he is just drawing academic conclusions rather than being an apologist for either side.

Anonymous Fri Mar 19 05:47:23 2021 No.17818931

>>17818912
finite minds pondering the infinite, St. Dionysius makes it clear that God is above both sensible and intelligible objects as He is their creator, or from scripture:
"And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus."
while we partake of His grace, according to our disposition (the analogy of the seals from St. Dionysius) ultimately God's essence is unknowable.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 05:49:33 2021 No.17818941 File: 15 KB, 640x399, 1586090310170.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] christshits are so pathetic

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 05:51:39 2021 No.17818948 >>17818848 What? That doesn't sound right at all - those who believe the most are those who suffer the most.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 05:53:48 2021 No.17818959 >>17818848 this is wrong lol, have you read Job bro?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 06:03:37 2021 No.17818991 >>17818959 >>17818948 yeah he is wrong, Christ's suffering on the cross has shown us that we must transfigure ourselves through suffering in order to attain to the glory of resurrection. God helps us with this through His grace.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 06:08:20 2021 No.17819011 >>17818991 take your fucking pills

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 06:08:48 2021 No.17819016 >>17818931 But also God helps you find job and your lost keys

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 06:11:56 2021 No.17819031 >>17819011 bot >>17819016 yes

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 07:44:16 2021 No.17819407 >>17818991 >suffering is a goal No wonder the religion's been getting less popular

Anonymous Fri Mar 19 07:50:41 2021 No.17819433

>>17818684
Bart is well known for not shoving his views unto others. Of course, as an academic, he will talk about his views about Biblical research etc., but he never ridicules believers and tells them they're wrong. His approach is more: "These are the facts, come to your own conclusion. Personally my conclusion is x"

This is why he's way betyer than Dawkins, Harris and all the other fedora atheists

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 07:55:24 2021 No.17819449 >>17818848 >Basically if you suffer it's on you because you didn't believe enough "Created sick, commanded to be well."

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 08:22:25 2021 No.17819568 Athiests sure do whine about suffering and evil and the christcuck answer to it but don't really offer an alternative or a reason it exists either

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 09:48:04 2021 No.17819995 >>17818803 The part where that still doesn’t explain the state of the world, given the properties God’s supposed to have

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 09:49:17 2021 No.17820003 >>17819568 Atheists never claim to have all the answers, that’s what the religious do

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 09:54:24 2021 No.17820028 >>17820003 >Atheists never claim to have all the answers Why should I listen to atheists then?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 10:03:42 2021 No.17820077 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dfmKwTFX2A

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 10:09:42 2021 No.17820110 >>17818615 Is this serious? Literally one of the core tenants of Christianity is that we suffer because of sin which entered our blood in The Fall.

Anonymous Fri Mar 19 10:12:37 2021 No.17820125

>>17819433
So he's an atheist who studies the bible??? Interesting, like I said when I watched his videos I couldn't tell if he was advocating for Christianity or against it, so that says a lot about how neutral he is. As a Christian myself, I can respect him for being professional and academic about his beliefs

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 10:30:31 2021 No.17820213 >>17818615 onions

Anonymous Fri Mar 19 10:34:26 2021 No.17820234

>>17820125
He even used to be a hardcore Evangelical Christian, that's the whole reason he enrolled into academia. He always wanted to become a NT scholar, reading the NT in its original language. Then as time went on as he studied, he became agnostic. He's not an atheist per se. There could be a God. It's just that he doesn't believe in the Judeo-Christian God.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 10:46:04 2021 No.17820304 File: 110 KB, 853x437, Calvin.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17818615 >Why we suffer? is the most important question Limp-wristed retard detected.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 11:23:45 2021 No.17820564 >>17820304 >being a Calvinist Kek. You literally worship an evil god.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 11:40:23 2021 No.17820691 File: 113 KB, 426x359, arts.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17820304 based

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 11:53:27 2021 No.17820783 >>17818615 because eve ate the apple its that simple

Anonymous Fri Mar 19 11:55:57 2021 No.17820796

>>17818684
He is a professor at my university. He used to be Christian, then converted to very liberal Christianity, then stopped being a Christian altogether because of the problem of pain and evil. Probably depends on how old the lecture is, but his background means he's pretty good at trying to balance faith

Anonymous Fri Mar 19 12:36:50 2021 No.17821041

>>17820028
Its not a shame to not have all the answers, it's a shame to pretend you have all the answers. Life should be a constant search for knowledge and if you're so arrogant to pretend you know everything, then there's no reason to seek knowledge at all. Socrates was the wisest of all Greeks but not because he knew everything, but rather because he admitted to know nothing and therefore dedicate his life to learning.

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