Best Syndicalist /lit/?

[Anonymous No.17798079]

[Anonymous No.17798098]

>>17798079
kramer

[Anonymous No.17798104]

de rerum novarum

[Anonymous No.17798114]

Truth Will Prevail, by Lula da Silva.
If by syndicalist lit you mean books written by trade unionists.

[Anonymous No.17798126]

>>17798114
That & the ideology of syndicalism, so yeah. Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.17798166]

>>17798079
George WIll recomended one but i can't find the quote.

Rudolf Rocker's Anarcho-Syndicalism: Theory and Practice, is good. Bill Haywood's Industrial Socialism is great if you're in America and are gonna work with boomers who are into american history

[Anonymous No.17798190]

>>17798079
Anything that Subcommandante Marcos wrote

[Anonymous No.17798339]

>>17798190
not explicitly syndicalist but this is still a good recommendation.

[Anonymous No.17799372]

Sorel

[Anonymous No.17799557]

>>17798104
shut it papist cuck, rerum novarum is centrist garbage that the pope shat out so the commie latin american liberation theologians wouldn't piss their pants while the capitalists of europe would still be able to exploit people in a church-sanctioned way

[Anonymous No.17800347]

>>17798079
IWW writings to 1925. KAPD writings to 1935.

[Anonymous No.17800354]

>>17798079
Georges Sorel

[Anonymous No.17800489]

>>17800347
https://industrialworker.org/

[Anonymous No.17800595]

>>17800489
We haven't had an upsurge of struggle producing a culture of struggle equivalent. I'd suggest 56 and 68 obviously but I doubt OP reads Hungarian or Czech. 89 didn't produce much in Shanghai.

Generally since the 1910s revolutionary wave our class has had its voices stomped out by bourgeois and nomenklatura who have tried to capture our movements. I'd rather not read yet another "toy orwell" pretending to be upset at being betrayed in the head.

[Anonymous No.17801167]

>>17800595
well i should scrap my rough draft then i guess

[Anonymous No.17801183]

hugo moyano

[Anonymous No.17801223]

>>17801167
Please: prove me wrong. Help us all free ourselves.

Unless you're a middle class tourist like Orwell.

[Anonymous No.17801284]

>>17801223
you could probably categories me like that i guess

i'll just not get involved and ruin anything.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.17801291]

>>17801167
What were you going to write?

[Anonymous No.17801298]

>>17801291
middle class tourism i guess

[Anonymous No.17801309]

>>17801298
Ask yourself this simple question:
If you don't work and get paid for that work can you pay rent and eat?
If the answer is yes then you're a tourist.
If you must work to eat you're a worker.

If you're in a syndicalist thread you should have no doubts about whether you must labour to subsist or not.

[Anonymous No.17801319]

>>17798190
pettybourg bs

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.17801327]

>>17801284
>>17801298
A lot of Americans still think of themselves as middle class, but they’re at most “petite bourgeoisie”. The social scientists have made this category called the precariate. Living paycheck to paycheck without any emergency money saved up is just something I personally wanted to avoid, so I chose to live below my means and now have that little nest egg.

[Anonymous No.17801383]

>>17801327
>A lot of Americans still think of themselves as middle class, but they’re at most “petite bourgeoisie”.
butchering words like a motherfucker jesus christ butterfly you’re retarded

[Anonymous No.17801387]

>>17801223
is Chomsky a tourist?

[Anonymous No.17801394]

>>17798079
Max stirner

[Anonymous No.17801395]

>>17801383
petty bourgious is not bourgious. small business owners are not middle class corporatists

[Anonymous No.17801400]

>>17801387
No, Chomsky is a bourgeois wrecker.

[Anonymous No.17801410]

>>17801400
>bourgeois wrecker
you mean this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrecking_(Soviet_Union)

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.17801416]

>>17801383
What was misspelled, grammar nazi?

[Anonymous No.17801459]

>>17801410
That's one use of the word. Left cultures which had anti-Soviet-intervention-of-'68 communist parties often use language derived from the 3rd international tradition.

I mean that Chomsky dismantles the capacity of workers for independent self-organised action. Both his moralistic humanism, far removed from the ontic humanism of '56, and his naïve philosophical idealism are useless when the matter is which manager's car is burnt this week?

[Anonymous No.17801470]

>>17801416
You misspelt the noun bourgeois.

[Anonymous No.17801488]

>>17798079
So I get syndicalism historically was fairly influential in France, the US and Russia to an extent but today the only reason people care about it is because of zoomies playing Kaiserreich and IWW larders, right?

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.17801489]

>>17801470
I intentionally spelled boojwazee
Boojwah better there? Whatthefuckever

[Anonymous No.17801496]

>>17800595
LARP. No working class talk like this. Hating the middle class is, in fact, a sign of being middle class.

[Anonymous No.17801541]

>>17801496
>I've never been to a party school
>or in an industrial cell

Let me guess, Cliffite.

[Anonymous No.17801542]

>>17801489
BOOBWAZEE

[Anonymous No.17801556]

>>17801541
Sorry anon but it's not 1910 anymore.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.17801567]

>>17801542
Wrong thread.

[Anonymous No.17801571]

>>17801556
Old Tony was the 50s midwit.

[Anonymous No.17801586]

>>17801567
BOOBA

[Anonymous No.17801637]

>>17798079
There are none.

[Anonymous No.17801651]

[Anonymous No.17801658]

>>17801488
I think a number of people are looking at it as an alternative to more mainstream leftist movements. If you're disillusioned with socialism, distrust authoritarianism, or like the trades, it's a natural fit.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.17801667]

>>17801637
You’re blind of course

[Anonymous No.17801680]

>>17801667
I like Peirats more

[Anonymous No.17801685]

>>17801658
based video

[Anonymous No.17801696]

>>17801658
Yeah, nah. It is an illusory a fantasy as the 3rd or 4th internationals; but, an illusion cast in a history of defeat, rather than defeat in victory. The IWW is heroic because we lost. The KAPD is heroic because despite having the largest active workers units in the world, they lost.

The Bolsheviks and Trotskyites are villains because they won, and by winning they lost.

Those who harken after Lenin only to discover the blood of workers on his hands, then turn their idealist hero worship onto Big Bill, who having lost in the United States died a drunk in a sex commune in the Soviet Union.

The only thing we should hanker after is victory. And to do that, as the KAPD advised, we should destroy all past forms and develop future forms from direct working class struggle; aware that should we lose, our new form will again be turned against us as a new weapon of capital.

The past cannot save us. Only we can save us.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.17801709]

>>17801658
It is leftism, socialist to the core.
It is a partial measure. Sure, workers should seize the means of production, but don’t neglect everybody else seizing their spaces

[Anonymous No.17801727]

>>17801696
>trotsky murdered by stalinist agent while in exile
i'd hardly say he won

[Anonymous No.17801729]

>>17801727
The 4th internationals, even the Cliffites, claim an organic Leninist tradition "which only went wrong when people stopped listening to our particular ideals."

Trotskism. So historically materialist right now.

[Anonymous No.17801732]

>>17801696
thotskyites didn't won

[Anonymous No.17801733]

>>17801696
I would largely agree here; syndicalism offers a "traditional" leftist vision less marred by the past than, say, Really Existing Socialism. Compared to post-left and post-modern leftism, Syndicalism is quite grounded, which has its appeal among a number of people. The task should not simply be a rejection of past modes of thought, but a mapping of these past-potentials onto future actions.

Novel examples are hard to flesh out, but I think there may be merit in introducing Syndicalist ideals to gig-workers or the recent waves of homesteaders. I have no clue how successful this would be (not likely is the rationally-cynical answer) but it may be worth a shot.

[Anonymous No.17801766]

>>17801733
Having been a gig worker, good work strikes, slander campaigns, chequerboard login strikes, etc, would all need to develop long before the "formal" organisation manifests. Exiting that market segment let me have my own room, service my bicycle, eat, see the doctor. So its going to be hard finding people with a party education who want to become 10 year embedded activists in the gig economy. You forgo a lot of things. Like the basic self-respect and eating that means you score cunt on the weekend when pulling.

[Anonymous No.17801774]

Sorry bros but in the present day ppl associate the leftist words with the campus socialist and the tranny. how will you win the trade unionists over

[Anonymous No.17801814]

>>17801774
Do you mean "other trade unionists" who are also dual unionists; or, do you mean that you're not a member of a union.

[Anonymous No.17803727]

>>17798114
>>17798126
Neat, I’ll check them out.