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Books to explain to me why the Catholic Church is more obsessed with guilt and absolution than love and anti-materialism.

>> No.17793538

It isn't.

>> No.17793593

>>17793505
>Catholic Church
As a non-Christian, that institution is very interesting. It is a thousand+ years old, few institutions can claim that age

>> No.17793604

>>17793505
They consider all of those ideas...

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17793609

Did somebody get their ass hurt by the declaration on gay marriage today?

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Do you want to learn about the Catholic Church and answer your own questions or just to bash the strawman?
If the former, the Summa can probably help. If the latter, pick up some book in the last 20 years by a Pentecostal or Jehova's Witness or something.
>t. Protestant that's growing more disillusioned with Protestants

>> No.17793629

>>17793505
Guilt needs to break you before love can give you peace

>> No.17793639

Probably because they diddle children

Can we go read good books now?

>> No.17793648

>The Confiteor is not meant to paralyze us with sadness or even shame; we do not confess our sins to remain guilty. It is a plea for reconciliation and forgiveness; it is as a child full of repentance who goes to embrace his Father. “I confess to God, for Whom I was made, and to Whom I desire to return.”

>> No.17793651

people who don't want to surrender their sins try to focus on love, to no avail

repent first, then forgiveness comes

>> No.17793654

Gnosticism.

>> No.17793660

>>17793639
post nose

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>>17793660
Why?

>> No.17793766

The Didache confirms confession and all of those ideas are equal in worth.
>“Confess your sins in church, and do not go up to your prayer with an evil conscience. This is the way of life. . . . On the Lord’s Day gather together, break bread, and give thanks, after confessing your transgressions so that your sacrifice may be pure” (Didache 4:14, 14:1 [A.D. 70]).

>> No.17793806

>>17793660
Tbh anyone defending the Catholic Church today is likely to have the schlomo nose.

>> No.17793874

>>17793609
What was it? "Cannot bless sin" ?

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>>17793806

>> No.17793884

>>17793876
Yeah cool. In reality the average Catholic Church has pro-migrant banners draped outside it and is at 15% capacity with mostly old people.

>> No.17793893

>>17793884
my catholic church does not have pro-diversity banners and is full of people with really loud babies

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>>17793874
Basically yes. The CDF just laid down the law and Pope Francis put his own personal approval on the document.

>> No.17793901

>>17793884
Catholic teaching on immigration is very nuanced and seems to support common sense. Countries are only to allow immigration if they are able to. And immigrants must respect the laws and customs of the countries.

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>Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens.

>> No.17793904

>>17793893
I don’t doubt you but you’re not grasping with the reality of the overall composition and state of the Church in the West. I’ve seen this a lot with the ailing ranks of online tradcaths.

>> No.17793918

>>17793904
tradcaths attend SSPX and latin masses; which does not represent the wider church. the actual church goers are minorities going to Novus Order Masses, and they're still doing quite well

>> No.17793923

>>17793897
So who is mad now? The lib or the trad?

>> No.17793925

>>17793918
They also go to FSSP and ICKSP

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>>17793923
the lib of course

>> No.17793939

>>17793930
>pic related
so funny how proties want everybody to be proties like them.

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>>17793904
Real Catholics do not despair, but take joy in everything, because Christ is Risen and eternal life is open to all who believe.

>> No.17793951

>>17793930
Do they not realize there are more than 4 books in the Bible? Also Christ defined marriage as that between a man and a woman anyway.

>> No.17793954

>>17793918
Yeah that’s why tradcaths are either obnoxiously arrogant there’s going to be a major resurgence in the one true faith or massively blackpilled in realising their last bastions of tradtionalism are getting snaller and smaller. Obviously I’m focusing on the former here because they’re the only ones who go on about Rome’s potential to fight da Joo. Which is pure nonsense.

>> No.17793968

>>17793954
The majority of people that go to TLM are on the younger side (18-40). Novus Ordo goers are all boomers.

>> No.17794024

>>17793654
The deluge and you lose conscious when in extreme pain.

>> No.17794048

>>17793968
Novus Order is where all the families and babies go, I don't really notice babies at TLM.

>>17793954
It's wishful thinking, sure, but only God really knows. Revelation does imply that the Church would "enter the Desert" again; I've taken it to mean that we're in a rough-time like the Mosaic Israelites were in the OT.

>> No.17794077

>>17793505
Dick rubbing is not love.

>> No.17794089

>>17793697
you are a castizo, i'm sure trannie.

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>>17794089
No.

>> No.17794119

>>17793897
>>17793930
funny that people don't realize that the Church hasn't even removed the ban on condoms 60 years after the sexual revolution and they think that they gonna fall to the sodomite psy op which has barely 10 years lmaoooo. Delusional.

>> No.17794142

>>17793505
The Name of the Rose