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What books should I read to grow out of Nice Guy personality?

>> No.17779059

Women are sex addicts who live on the privilege of having the upper hand on the sex market, but also they hate to see that their lavish life full of gifts and attention from their orbiters cannot be separated from the occasional harassment stemming from the despair of the rejected men who are indoctrinated into thinking that competing for women, with sex seen as the highest reward in a man's life, is the pinnacle of the male life.


It gets worse because a woman will always feel outraged when she thinks that a man who does not merit her is actually trying to court her, to talk to her, to amuse her. This kind of man is the usual poor, ugly, outcast man who have nothing of value to offer to the woman and the woman does not understand why such a man would even orbit her in the first place.
A woman always thinks she deserves better orbiters than whatever men are currently around her.

Then there is the huge female delusion that women are actually not sex addicts and have a harsh life, that they live from predicaments to predicaments and are all subjugated by men. Women need this delusion in order to created a narrative where they are good people and all their problems stems from evil people, in this case men.


Then you combine this delusion with the infatuation of the dogmas of the Human rights replacing the judeo christian god which creates a society of commentaries, of entertainment, of a merger of politics, entertainment and education and you get a humongous resonance box where the narcissists will never ever shut up about the tiniest annoyance in their hedonistic life.

this stems from the bourgeois valuation of women: women were always seen as giving meaning to men's life, by men competing for them and since women spread their legs, they get pregnant. But women never were considered for politics. Women were living with their parents, then with the beta cuck who craved providing for them and then the sluts cheating on the provider with other beta orbiters craving to give sex to women. Then both the sluts and the providers died and the next generation took over, doing exactly the same thing.

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>> No.17779088

>>17779055
You cant grow out of it, if you were raised up like this then you're fucked forever

>> No.17779114

>>17779055
Jordan Peterson's self help book. name escapes me
Fight Club
The Fountainhead

If you're a "Nice Guy," you probably feel like your entire self worth hinges on the approval of women. That's too much power to give to anyone. Don't hand that leash to people who haven't earned it. I'm not telling you to be shitty to women. Just find some non-women things in your life that give you value. It's difficult, and it's definitely easier go full mgtow for the same effect, but it's the small brain solution and you'll probably end up pretty lonely and resentful. I've known a lot of old guys that died alone in despair with no surviving family to even sort through their junk after their gone. It's an option, but it isn't the only one.

>> No.17779125

>>17779088
dont listen to this demoralizing fuck

>> No.17779132
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Go simp for a girl really hard, get burned, and realized you wasted so much time and energy on someone less intelligent and capable than you.

It should work if you go in with a strong sense of detachment and experimental mindset. Call it controlled demolition. It is perfectly possible to do this kind of thing, allowing yourself to do something stupid just to see what happens.

>> No.17779139
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>NO MORE MISTER NICE GUY...

>> No.17779151

>>17779139
is this real

>> No.17779156

>>17779139
kek

>> No.17779285

>>17779132
I actually do stupid shit all the time just to see what happens, the two year prison bit was probably the worst consequence of it all

>> No.17779322

I don’t understand why you can’t be nice without being totally submissive.
I’ve always been “nice” even when I was a child, but I’m also largely self-contained and have never really gotten attached to anyone else thus far.

You don’t have to be anyone’s emotional slave or anything if that’s not what you’re into.

>> No.17779332

>>17779285
story time

>> No.17779776

>>17779132
Wouldn’t recommend this, anon’ll just start doing this with all women instead of stopping after being shot down the first time

>> No.17779808

>>17779055
Honestly if you're over 18 all your personality is set in stone, it has been proven by countless studies.

>> No.17779878

>>17779114
> Just find some non-women things in your life that give you value
>and it's definitely easier go full mgtow

I don't get what's the difference between these two.

>> No.17779895

>>17779878
The difference is excluding women from your life completely vs not letting women BE the totality your life.

>> No.17779908

>>17779322
This

>> No.17779919

>>17779322
Being perceived as nice normally means that you're merely projecting your genuine internal kindness. Wicked people lack this, so making compromises with their own vile and selfish drives is the only way to effect the same impression.

>> No.17779930

>>17779895
>excluding women from your life completely

What does it mean? I don't have to exercise any effort to exclude women from my life, it just happens automatically and I certainly don't need to adhere to any silly ideology for this to continue.

If I'm going to actively chase women somehow though, "letting women be the totality of my life" would be certainly plausible.

>> No.17779960

>>17779776
No, if you do it right you only need to do it once.

The idea is to take all your negative tendencies and burn them out of you in one go.

>> No.17779992

>>17779808
This

>> No.17780025

>>17779139
>I WILL ALWAYS BE NICE!

>> No.17780552

test

>> No.17780623

>>17779055
Imo the probleme is not being nice, the problem is being ONLY nice. being nice is not a virtue. being nice does not increase your social value.

>> No.17780631

>>17779055
For Women's perspective:
>Ho Tactics How To MindF__k A Man Into Spending, Spoiling, and Sponsoring
>He's Not That Complicated: How to Crack a Man's Romantic Code to get the Relationship You Want
4U:
>The Manipulated Man
>The Predatory Female

I think it's important to read women's methods for deception, so you can have knowledge of their tactics in advance. Note that, as long as in you're in a relationship with a woman, you will be forced to become more and more beta for her in order for that relationship to last, so beware.

>> No.17780672

>>17780631
>tfw your options in life are crushing loneliness or humiliating yourself

>> No.17780771

>>17779055
>>17780672
Not really, the beta-ing happens because of a legal framework and a community that gives women bargaining power through deluded simps.
Here's my best piece of advice:
>go where you're treated best, always.
Play the international game and think about places as companies and see yourself as a potential client who wants the most bang for their buck.

>> No.17780791

>>17780771
>go where you're treated best

terrible advice, at best you will end up in some hugbox echo chamber and become an idiot, at worst you will join a cult.

>> No.17780805

>>17779055
>>17780791
Only if said person is actually retarded and do what you just said, which is a complete and total misrepresentation of my message. Smart enough to read, not smart enough to comprehend, analyze and integrate

>> No.17780810

>>17780771
Honestly I think it's just better to go for the NEETpill, I'm not driven enough for all this shit

>> No.17780834

>>17780810
Then you'll feel regret for not doing it and jealousy for those who did. After all, getting a surrogate and the egg in the same country, especially in a western country, is something ill-advised for legal reasons (risk of owing child support)

>> No.17780847

>>17780834
>you'll feel regret for not doing it and jealousy for those who did.
A small price to pay.

>> No.17780885

>>17779055
Be over 18

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>>17779055
Thumbnail reminded me of this

>> No.17781235

>>17780885
?

>> No.17781257

>>17779055
>What books should I read to grow out of Nice Guy personality?
These threads might be the saddest ones on all of /lit/

>> No.17781312

>>17781257
Ironically enough, they might also be the most useful around here

>> No.17781495

>>17779055
mark manson - models
it's """dating advice""" the same way the art of war is just about warfare

>> No.17781703

>>17779055
Six Pillars of Self-Esteem

>> No.17781720

>>17779088
Based