Islam

[Anonymous No.17775614]

What are the essential works of Islamic literature and theology? Other than the Qur'an of course.

[Anonymous No.17775622]

>>17775614

[Anonymous No.17775634]

>>17775614
This is the EXACT version I got of the Qu'ran. How's the Oxford World's Classics KJV Bible?

[Anonymous No.17775738]

>>17775614
the conference of the birds

[Anonymous No.17775747]

Plato's Republic
Tao Te Ching
Dhammapada

[Anonymous No.17775762]

>>17775614
Read this.

[Anonymous No.17775770]

>>17775762

[Anonymous No.17775777]

>>17775770

[Anonymous No.17775783]

>>17775777
Trips don't lie.

[Anonymous No.17776191]

man there are so much that its impossible, or I am too lazy, to compile into one post - just skip to Ibn Arabi if you want the deepest possible teachings

[Anonymous No.17776224]

>>17775614
Very briefly:
The sahih hadith and the biography of the Prophet (pbuh), then some tafsir and the 4 or 5 main schools of jurisprudence. After that probably something about the various sects.

[Anonymous No.17776413]

>>17775614
You can read The Revival of Religious Sciences by Al-Ghazali it is said that: "Were the books of Islam all to be lost, excepting only the Ihya (revival), it would suffice to replace them all.". You can also read some of his other mystical works like The Alchemy of Happiness.

[Anonymous No.17776447]

>>17776413
>Al-Ghazali
Really nice suggestion

[Anonymous No.17776592]

>>17776447
He's my favorite author.

[Anonymous No.17776621]

>>17775762
>>17775770
can anyone who is more studied offer commentary on this? I minored in Islamic studies and the university obviously didn't tell me that Muslims are all backwards but a lot of what the anon in the screencap is saying fits with what I was taught.

[Anonymous No.17776697]

>>17776621
I am not well studied enough to write a coherent commentary on this, but I have seen a thread that attempted to reply to them before.
>>/lit/thread/14651153

[Anonymous No.17777842]

>>17775634
Not best for reading, unless you tear it into three:
Genesis-4 Kings
1 Chronicles-Malachi
1 Esdras-Revelation
Each of these is about as thick as their Qur'an. All we need now is an Oxford Book of Mormon + Doctrine + Pearl.

[Anonymous No.17778414]

did muhammad have a disciple who was the equivalent to saint paul?

[Anonymous No.17778451]

>>17778414
St Paul wasn't a disciple of Jesus (pbuh)

[Anonymous No.17778478]

>>17778414
Ali ibn Abitaleb

[Anonymous No.17778655]

>>17775762
>>17775770
>>17775777
>>17775783
>Islam is soley about accumulating power
>Killing jewish merchants
wtf islam is Based AF

[Anonymous No.17778767]

>>17778414
Most of of the Sahaba can be linked to an equalvilent apostle (though Muslims generally consider Paul to be the person who began to corrupt the message of Jesus), other than maybe Umar. None of the apostles strike me as a an ex-wrestler and a strict incorruptible jurist type of guy, he's almost like a Chinese folk hero in the way he's typically characterized by Islamic sources.

[Anonymous No.17778796]

>>17775614
The Qur'an

[Anonymous No.17780126]

>>17777842
>Each of these is about as thick as their Qur'an
You say that in praise but note that the Bible is a collection of revelations from God, as well as the things Jesus did and various other writings from different people. Whereas the Quran is strictly a revelation from God and nothing else(wonder how thick the bible would be if it's the same and other content taken out). Then you habe the Hadith, which is a collection of things Muhammad did, the contents of which could fill a room with books, but we largely restrict ourselves to those with a verifiable chain of narration.

[Anonymous No.17781045]

>>17777842
Yeah, I agree. Oxford's World Classics doesn't have a great binding for a 4000+ page book

[Anonymous No.17781172]

>>17775614
Bridge Building to Nowhere
Catastrophic Failure
Milestones
Reliance of the Traveler

[Anonymous No.17781188]

>>17781172
>Bridge Building to Nowhere
>In this new monograph by Islamic Law-nexus-to-terrorism expert Stephen Coughlin, the Center for Security Policy is pleased to offer a frank and insightful look at how jihadist groups like the Muslim Brotherhood and the Organization of Islamic Cooperation take calculated advantage of liberal mindsets among Catholics-from the lay faithful through the clerical hierarchy and all the way to the Vatican itself. Such mindsets are often all too ready to surrender steadfast adherence to doctrinal Church teaching in order to win approval from cynical Islamic suitors whose true (but well-disguised) purpose is neutralization of Catholic opposition to their shariah agenda.
Bwahaha what is this schicho writing I'm reading?

[Anonymous No.17781328]

>>17777842
>Not best for reading, unless you tear it into three:
How about this one?

[Anonymous No.17781411]

Sunni here, what texts should I read to study esotericism without deviating from mainstream beliefs?

[Anonymous No.17781422]

>>17775614
Read the Quran and listen to the Quran.
Read Tafseer Ibn Katheer. Full English translation is available online for free.
Read an explanation of Usool al Thalaatha by Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhaab.
Read an explanation of Kashf al Shubuhaat by Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhaab.
Read an explanation of Kitab at Tawheed by Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhaab.
Read an explanation of Aqeedah al Wasitiyyah by Ibn Taymiyyah.
Read an explanation of the 40 Hadeeth of an-Nawawi.
Read The Sealed Nectar. This is a book about the life of the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him).
Read Al Fawaid by Ibn Qayyim.
Read Riyad as Saliheen by an-Nawawi.

These books will introduce you into the core aspects of true authentic Islamic creed. They are a very solid base for someone who seeks knowledge in Islam.

[Anonymous No.17781479]

>>17780126
Authentic ahadith like this one.

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet ﷺ said "If a house fly falls in the drink of anyone of you, he should dip it (in the drink), for one of its wings has a disease and the other has the cure for the disease."
https://muflihun.com/bukhari/54/537

[Anonymous No.17781492]

>>17781479
>doesn't know that pound for pound insects are the finest source of protein
Based

[Anonymous No.17781498]

>>17781492
How many pounds of flies do pious muslim eat yearly?

[Anonymous No.17781526]

>>17781498
I eat about 2kg every week as part of my detox process.

[Anonymous No.17781551]

>>17776697
>it's pretty laughable that countries where same-sex marriage is common are calling cousin marriage degenerate.
based

[Anonymous No.17781587]

>>17781526
Damn that's around 10,000 flies a week if I'm right, so 520,000 flies a year. That's an awful lot of flies, Allah must delight at your obedience.

[Anonymous No.17782086]

>>17781422
>They are a very solid base for someone who seeks knowledge in Islam
And then?

[Anonymous No.17782122]

>>17776191
>Ibn Arabi
Any good books by him?

[Anonymous No.17782203]

>>17782122
>Ibn Arabi
Reminder that Arabi said sex is from God and being in communion with a woman(ie have sex) brings you closer to God.

[Anonymous No.17782402]

>>17782203
Hmm. Well Muslims generally don’t do asceticism and they see marriage as an important part of their faith.

[Anonymous No.17782748]

>>17782122
Ibn Arabi is hard if you want to get into Sufism, I would suggest that you read some Corbin or Hussein Nasr first. But If you want to get into it anyway you can start by reading The Bezels of Wisdom and then moving on to the Meccan Revelations.

[Anonymous No.17782791]

>>17782203
Some people said to Messenger of Allah (ﷺ): "O Messenger of Allah, the rich have taken away (all the) reward. They observe Salat (prayers) as we do; and give Sadaqah (charity) out of their surplus wealth." Upon this he (the Prophet (ﷺ)) said, "Has Allah not prescribed for you (a course) following which you can (also) give Sadaqah? In every declaration of the glorification of Allah (i.e., saying Subhan Allah) there is a Sadaqah, and in every Takbir (i.e., saying Allahu Akbar) is a Sadaqah, and in every celebration of praise (saying Al-hamdu lillah) is a Sadaqah, and in every declaration that He is One (La ilaha illallah) is a Sadaqah, and in enjoining of good is a Sadaqah, and in forbidding evil is a Sadaqah, and in man's sexual intercourse (with his wife) there is a Sadaqah." They (the Companions) said: "O Messenger of Allah, is there reward for him who satisfies his sexual need among us?" He said, "You see, if he were to satisfy it with something forbidden, would it not be a sin on his part? Similarly, if he were to satisfy it legally, he should be rewarded".

[Muslim].

[Anonymous No.17782934]

>>17782791
Anas bin Malik said, "The Prophet (ﷺ) used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, "Had the Prophet (ﷺ) the strength for it?" Anas replied, "We used to say that the Prophet (ﷺ) was given the strength of thirty (men)." And Sa`id said on the authority of Qatada that Anas had told him about nine wives only (not eleven).

[Anonymous No.17783267]

>>17782934
mashallah. does this make having tons of sex sunnah?

[Anonymous No.17784106]

Read this

[Anonymous No.17784140]

>>17781498
Dip whichever wing isn't wet and then you can throw the fly away. Where does it say eat the fly, it does not.

[Anonymous No.17785486]

>>17782791
>"You see, if he were to satisfy it with something forbidden, would it not be a sin on his part? Similarly, if he were to satisfy it legally, he should be rewarded"
Pretty based to be quite honest with you famalam

[Anonymous No.17785761]

>>17775762
>>17775770
>>17775777
>>17775783
>PhD in Screenshots of 4chan posts of Islamic theology from /pol/ University

[Anonymous No.17786728]

>>17783267
>does this make having tons of sex sunnah?
Yes, as much as humanly possible.

[Anonymous No.17787038]

>>17775614
The Meccan Revelations

[Anonymous No.17787058]

>>17780126
>Whereas the Quran is strictly a revelation from God
prove it.

[Anonymous No.17787082]

>>17784140
Muslim anon says he eats flies here >>17781526
Do you eat flies or do you just dip them in your drinks as Muhammad adviced?

[Anonymous No.17787121]

>>17787058
>prove it.
The proof is the Qur'an
>With truth We have sent it (the Qur’ān) down and with truth it descended, and We did not send you but as a bearer of good tidings and as a warner.[17:105]

[Anonymous No.17787126]

Basically all of Islam is medieval except for maybe the Qur’an which is debatable

[Anonymous No.17787162]

>>17787082
Are you pajeet

[Anonymous No.17787266]

>>17787121
>The proof is the Qur'an
I was about to insult you for this answer, but now i kind of feel sorry for you. Nobody is perfect, but you are way too brainwashed to even think properly. You're like a broken record just repeating what was drilled into you without thinking about it. You have lost the capacity to think for yourself.
>"The proof is the Qur'an"
This statement is absolutely NOT proof and shows a clear lack of understanding as to what proof implies.
Please read this:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_(truth)

[Anonymous No.17787300]

>>17787266
What else did you expect anon. Logic is inherently incompatible with Islam.

[Anonymous No.17787368]

>>17787300
Can you provide a justification for logic under your world view?

[Anonymous No.17787387]

>>17787121
>the Quran is true because it's stated in the Quran that is is true.

[Anonymous No.17787411]

>>17787266
Proof that Quran is the Revelation of God:
1. It says in the Quran it's the Revelation of God
2. It says in the Quran the Word of God is infallible
3. It therefore naturally follows, from these two axioms in statement 1 and 2, if the word is infallible and it states that it is the word of God, the most logical conclusion you can draw is that it is the Word of God

The syllogism is perfectly clear.

[Anonymous No.17787442]

>>17787121

[Anonymous No.17787456]

>>17787442
Not gonna lie that was pretty funny

[Anonymous No.17787489]

>>17787411
Circular reasoning is not legitimate.
What proof are you basing axioms 1 and 2 upon? How do you prove your axioms 1 and 2? If they crumble, your whole chain of reasoning is baseless.

[Anonymous No.17787548]

>>17787489
>What proof are you basing axioms 1 and 2 upon?
Axioms aren't based on proof. The definition of axioms goes as follows
>An axiom, postulate or assumption is a statement that is taken to be true, to serve as a premise or starting point for further reasoning and arguments. The word comes from the Greek axíōma (ἀξίωμα) 'that which is thought worthy or fit' or 'that which commends itself as evident.'
One of the most basic axioms in math is the parallel postulate
>In a plane, given a line and a point not on it, at most one line parallel to the given line can be drawn through the point
This axiom can then be used to build, that is to say prove, more complex propositions. Sure if they crumble the whole chain of reasoning is baseless, and in this particular sense, we stray away from Euclidian and enter non-Euclidian geometry. But this doesn't invalidate all the proofs you build within Euclidian geometry using aforementioned axiom.

[Anonymous No.17787574]

>>17787411
That only shows that the Quran says it is the revelation of God, not that it actually is.

[Anonymous No.17787589]

>>17787411
Proof that what I sat is the Revelation of God
1. What I say is the Revelation of God
2. I say that the Word of God is infaillible
3. It therefore naturally follows, from these axioms in statement 1 and 2, if the word is infaillible and it states that is is the word of God, the most logical conclusion you can draw is that what I say is the Word of God.

The syllogism is perfectly clear.

[Anonymous No.17787640]

>>17782203
>sex is from God and being in communion with a woman(ie have sex) brings you closer to God.
Lmao Crosscucks think having sex with your wife is bad even?

[Anonymous No.17787759]

>>17776697
Didn't address any of the more contentious points of the other thread and ended up defending slavery and killing apostates.
That's actually a neat example of why these people need to be kept away from our countries at all costs.

[Anonymous No.17787991]

>>17787411
same applies to the Bible

[Anonymous No.17788044]

>>17787640
So when you fuck your wife you're fucking God???

[Anonymous No.17788257]

>>17787991
Well, yeah, that's also in the Quran
>He has revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ the Book in truth, confirming what came before it, as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel[3:3]

[Anonymous No.17788269]

>>17788044
Close, you're doing God's work, anon

[Anonymous No.17789339]

>>17787548
So it is true because you assume it to be true, and that is all the proof you need?
That is not proof, that is you just believing whatever you want to. That is a belief. I for instance believe in flying unicorns.
Let me rephrase. How can you prove your assumption 1 and assumption 2?

[Anonymous No.17789378]

>>17788257
The "Gospel" isn't equivalent to the christcuck new testament.

[Anonymous No.17789533]

>>17789378
The injeel doesn’t and has never existed

[Anonymous No.17789581]

>>17781188
Read it, it's very short and well cited

[Anonymous No.17790164]

>>17775622
a literary masterpiece.

[Anonymous No.17791023]

>>17789533
Allah knows best

[Anonymous No.17793164]

>>17775614
Ibn Hazm and the Zahirites are very underrated. read Goldhizer - The Ẓāhirīs: Their Doctrine and Their History

[Anonymous No.17793180]

>>17781479
>what is metaphor

[Anonymous No.17794933]

There's a pastebin on this

https://pastebin.com/CKbsaqE0

[Anonymous No.17794976]

>>17775783
>>17775777
>>17775770
>>17775762
Islam btfo.
Stupid fake religion believed by inbreds.

[Anonymous No.17794987]

>>17782086
Read the sharia to know islam is a barbaric and utterly retarded religion.

[Anonymous No.17795015]

>>17781479
There's a full version of the hadith that says that the outside of the fly is disease and the inside of the fly is the antidote, so the wings are just a figure of speech

[Anonymous No.17795031]

>>17794987
Quran 2:190
"Fight in the way of God those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed, God does not like the transgressors."

Quran 8:61
"And if they incline to peace, incline thou also to it, and trust in God."

Quran 4:90
"So if they remove themselves from you and do not fight you and offer you peace, then God has not made for you a cause against them."

Quran 6:108
"And do not insult those they invoke other than God, lest they insult God in enmity without knowledge."

Quran 60:7

"Perhaps God will put, between you and those to whom you have been enemies among them, affection. And God is mighty. And God is Forgiving and Merciful."

Quran 60:8

"God does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, God loves those who act justly."

Quran 5:82
"You will find the nearest of them in affection to those who believe, those who say: Lo! We are Christians. That is because there are among them priests and monks, and because they are not proud."

Quran 29:46
"And do not argue with the People of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you. And our God and your God is one; and we are to Him - Muslims (in submission)."


Quran 5:48
"To each of you We prescribed a law and a method. Had God willed, He would have made you one nation, but to test you in what He has given you; so race to good. To God is your return all together, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ."

Quran 9:6

"And if any one of the pagans seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of God. Then deliver him to his place of safety. That is because they are a people who do not know."

[Anonymous No.17795081]

>>17795031
Right to bad all of it is abrogated by 9:5 (which are agreed to have abrogated every peaceful agreement)


and the fact your sharia explicitly states to attack everyone and everybody that are non muslims.

o9.0 JIHAD
(O: Jihad means to war against non-Muslims, and is etymologically derived from the word mujahada
signifying warfare to establish the religion. And it is the lesser jihad. As for the greater jihad, it is
spiritual warfare against the lower self (nafs), which is why the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him
peace) said as he was returning from jihad.
``We have returned from the lesser jihad to the greater jihad.''
The scriptural basis for jihad, prior to scholarly consensus (def: b7) is such Koranic verses as:
(1) ``Fighting is prescribed for you'' (Koran 2:216);
(2) ``Slay them wherever you find them'' (Koran 4:89);
(3) ``Fight the idolators utterly'' (Koran 9:36);
and such hadiths as the one related by Bukhari and Muslim that the Prophet (Allah bless him and give
him peace) said:
``I have been commanded to fight people until they testify that there is no god but Allah and that
Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and perform the prayer, and pay zakat. If they say it, they have
saved their blood and possessions from me, except for the rights of Islam over them. And their final
reckoning is with Allah'';
and the hadith reported by Muslim,
``To go forth in the morning or evening to fight in the path of Allah is better than the whole world
and everything in it.''Details concerning jihad are found in the accounts of the military expeditions of the
Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace), including his own martial forays and those on which he
dispatched others. The former consist of the ones he personally attended, some twenty-seven (others say
twenty-nine) of them. He fought in eight of them, and killed only one person with his noble hand, Ubayy
ibn Khalaf, at the battle of Uhud. On the latter expeditions he sent others to fight, himself remaining at
Medina, and these were forty-seven in number.)

[Anonymous No.17795130]

>>17795081
>A race that spent centuries colonizing every part of the world, subjugating every race destroying billions of lives in the process, both human and other, destroying every single environment theh tred upon, start two world wars, inventing and using weapons of mass destruction that can destroy the whole world
>b-b-but your religion says you can be violent
Hypocrisy at it's finest.

[Anonymous No.17795138]

>>17794987
Barbaric is not an insult you sōy guzzling libcuck.

[Anonymous No.17795149]

>>17795130
>>A race that spent centuries colonizing every part of the world, subjugating every race destroying billions of lives in the process, both human and other, destroying every single environment theh tred upon, start two world wars, inventing and using weapons of mass destruction that can destroy the whole world
>b-b-but your religion says you can be violent

>Resorts to tu qouque fallacies

It is hilarious how almost every single time you mudslimes always resort to it, doesn't remove your own ills and sins when it comes to history as well, it doesn't change the fact that all of this is apart of your own solid doctrine

[Anonymous No.17795159]

>>17795149
Should be added to the bingo senpai.

[Anonymous No.17795162]

>>17795149
>doesn't remove your own ills and sins when it comes to history as well,
No, it doesn't, but nothing comes close to your genocidal mark on history

[Anonymous No.17795192]

>>17795138
>Not an insult
Whether it is or not it is an accurate depiction regardless.


>>17795162

>No, it doesn't, but nothing comes close to your genocidal mark on history

>Genocidal mark on history
>Armenian genocide didn't happen

It is hilarious how you resort to the past when the current shit that is happening under islamic influence is a still happening because of it's teachings on it's own doctrine.

[Anonymous No.17795194]

>>17794987
Book recs on the sharia, particularly any you've actually read yourself. >>17795149
>apart
The fact that you resort to ad hominen attacks and are stupid makes me feel like I should help you out by explaining that the religion of peace meme is a strawman created by enemies of the deen and that you must study more if you want to learn more, assuming of course that you don't actually believe that you have perfect knowledge, and talk to Muslims that know their own religion and there's no shame in answering with an I don't know if that's the truth.

[Anonymous No.17795209]

>>17795194
>ia, particularly any you've actually read yourself.
Just quoted it here.

>>17795081
>The fact that you resort to ad hominen attacks and are stupid
Welcome to 4chan.

You mean I should talk to muslims with a good chance you are lying your ass off.

[Anonymous No.17795211]

>>17795192
>it's
Don't tell him not to argue this way whilst you continue with the argument you started this way. If you know sharia you should know what the Islamic rules of war are and stop exposing your own ignorance with this dumb line of thinking.

[Anonymous No.17795215]

>>17795211
> If you know sharia you should know what the Islamic rules of war are and stop exposing your own ignorance with this dumb line of thinking.

Again I quoted the sharia see

>>17795081

What argument the tu qouque fallacy he started?

[Anonymous No.17795222]

>>17795209
Are you here only to troll Muslims and tell lies about Islam?

[Anonymous No.17795226]

>>17795222
> troll Muslims and tell lies about Islam?

Your sharia is a lie?

[Anonymous No.17795315]

>>17781551
>no u

Wow, isloomers are retarded

[Anonymous No.17795352]

Those who mock Islam will laugh, but their laughter will decrease when their sons become weak and bisexual men, their daughters hypersexualized and feminist, their wives cheating and disobedient, and their soul heading towards Hell.

[Anonymous No.17795471]

>>17795352
Islam is already being colonized even faster than Christianity.

[Anonymous No.17795480]

>>17787387
It's full of truths that agree with modern science

[Anonymous No.17795489]

It always amazes me how spiritually empty semites are

[Anonymous No.17795545]

>>17795480
Name one (1)
Explain how that makes it divine

[Anonymous No.17795564]

>>17795471
>look I found some white american twitch streamer on twitter
>see, islam more cucked than christianity
Holy cope. Most Christians are only Christian by culture and identity. Even for those, who are practising - the amount of pro-LGBT priests and churches is laughable. Islam is more immune for globalism and modernity, and muslims are actually the biggest conservative group in Europe, despite demographics. Islam is also known for regular awakenings and revivals. Tell me an ideology and religion that is more traditional than Islam by scripture, laws and its average followers.

[Anonymous No.17795566]

>>17795489
>spiritual
nonsensical hippie buzzword

[Anonymous No.17795598]

4chan users' arguments against Islam are always something like this:

>You can't possibly believe in your religion, and that there is one all-powerful God Who doesn't make mistakes?
>waaa Islamic law isn't pacifist
>*5 articles they went and googled and skimmed through*

[Anonymous No.17795726]

>>17795192
>>17795149
It's a bunch of crocodile tears anon is only okay when they do it tho.

[Anonymous No.17795772]

>>17795726
>Attacks a religion for saying war is permitted
>Someone draws attention to their own history riddled with warfare
>Wah wah you only want warfare for yourself
That's not how that works, anon

[Anonymous No.17795804]

>>17795772
>Attacks a religion for saying war is permitted
The main difference is that they are in an active war against everybody that doesn't believe in their own bs religion that is where the difference is drawn from.
>>Someone draws attention to their own history riddled with warfare
Look up what a tu qouque fallacy is, but the reasons for the wars of other nations are through a multitude of reasons, your sharia already made this clear see
>>17795081
you are meant to be opposed to non believers in general your religion and worldview isn't compatible with ours

[Anonymous No.17795825]

>>17795804
>your religion and worldview isn't compatible with ours
muslim here, yeah no shit

[Anonymous No.17795880]

sorry I just can't get over how stupid of a statement is "your religion and worldview isn't compatible with ours"
>>17795804

[Anonymous No.17795887]

>>17795880

>>17795825
Admitted it here.

[Anonymous No.17795907]

>>17795887
admitted what? is the fact that Islam isn't able to be amalgamated with other religions and ideologies supposed to be some kind of indictment?

[Anonymous No.17795938]

>>17795907
Islam is not compatible to our societies, so how is it a stupid statement if it's true?

[Anonymous No.17795948]

>>17795938
>Islam is not compatible to our societies
That's where you're mistaken, guv. Your societies aren't compatible with Islam.

[Anonymous No.17795962]

>>17795948
Same difference.

[Anonymous No.17795963]

>>17795564
I used to think you guys had a 100 year head start on dealing with Die Ewige Lib, but lately I think it's only around 30 more years until you become just as tolerant and spineless

[Anonymous No.17795983]

>>17795938
the fact that you explicitly said that. You seem to expect it to be some sort of gotcha moment or something. European Christians defeated and clipped the wings of their own religion, and I guess they expect the same of everyone else

[Anonymous No.17796046]

>>17795983
You weren't compatible then you are not compatible now.

>European Christians defeated and clipped the wings of their own religion, and I guess they expect the same of everyone else
Except Christians don't have anything to an equalivent of sharia law that they are suppose to follow as a requirement nor do any other belief system to my knowledge maybe except jews and is because of said influence is why you get terror attacks throughout the islamic world and other parts of india and africa almost on a daily basis.

[Anonymous No.17796081]

>>17796046
>Except Christians don't have anything to an equalivent of sharia law
cope
>why you get terror attacks throughout the islamic world and other parts of india and africa almost on a daily basis.
cherrypicked whataboutism. Not an argument or even relevant to the discussion

[Anonymous No.17796101]

>>17796081
Don't see how that's a cope
>cherry picked
Don't see how it's cherry picked considering it happens nearly on a daily basis and it is mostly inspired by the teachings of islam.

[Anonymous No.17796103]

>>17796046
>Except Christians don't have anything to an equalivent of sharia law that they are suppose to follow
>A guy who doesn't know anything about his own religion is attacking Muslims for still keeping their religion
Color me surprised

[Anonymous No.17796114]

>>17795564
I didn't say it's more cucked then Christianity, but you can already come across many such cases. Spreading Islam into the west is a mistake because it's going to serve as a bridge for progressive ideals to find their way into the Muslim world. Islam in the west is specially vulnerable to this because leftists have deemed Muslims to be a protected minority and intersectionality means muslim women are going to come into contact with feminist and homosexual ideology more than any other conservative group.

[Anonymous No.17796120]

>>17796103
>A guy who doesn't know anything about his own religion is attacking Muslims for still keeping their religion

>Keeping to their religion

Definitely.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/3/15/at-least-a-dozen-killed-in-easter-dr-congo-attack

https://kfgo.com/2021/03/14/houthi-missile-attack-kills-three-children-in-yemens-taiz-residents-say/

[Anonymous No.17796130]

>>17796103
Oh just one more bonus.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9354915/Nanny-decapitated-girl-free-just-five-years-psychiatric-ward.html

[Anonymous No.17796159]

>>17796101
Now I regret saying "cherrypicked" because it gave you another excuse to dodge what I said

[Anonymous No.17796178]

>>17796159
Dodge fucking what?
Islam has a sharia law where it is a requirement to follow it?
Yes

Are there people that do certain actions as a result of the influence by islam?

Also yes.

[Anonymous No.17796198]

>>17796130
Fuuuck.
What savages.

[Anonymous No.17796269]

>>17796120
>>17796130
Shall i start posting tne historical records of the billions that died under the western hegemonies?

[Anonymous No.17796297]

>>17796269
You would be resorting to a tu qouque fallacy, (as if that is going to defend the indefensible of your religion) but as a result I will be able to post more about current terrorist attacks every single other thing which is happening in current time

[Anonymous No.17796372]

>>17796297
>but as a result I will be able to post more about current terrorist attacks every single other thing which is happening in current time
You would be posting outliers because according to several organizations including the FBI most terrorist attacts are committed by far right groups white supremacists, but sure keep drinking the cool aid the dailymail keeps poisoning you with the muslim boogey man

[Anonymous No.17796393]

>>17796372
>ou would be posting outliers

> including the FBI most terrorist attacts are committed by far right groups white supremacists, but sure keep drinking the cool aid the dailymail keeps poisoning you with the muslim boogey man

[Anonymous No.17796518]

>>17796393
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/24/us/domestic-terrorist-groups.html
>White supremacist groups have carried out a majority of “terrorist plots and attacks” this year, according to a report by a think tank, the Center for Strategic and International Studies.
https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/10/27/in-america-far-right-terrorist-plots-have-outnumbered-far-left-ones-in-2020
>A new report by the Transnational Threats Project at the Centre for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), a think-tank, suggests that far-right terrorism is a much greater threat than far-left terrorism. The CSIS analysed 61 terrorist incidents reported between January 1st and August 31st and categorised them into four groups: religious, far-right, far-left and other. It drew on databases compiled by research groups and press releases from the FBI and the Department of Justice, cross-checked against criminal complaints and news reports. Hate crimes, protests, riots and civil unrest, including the disturbances after the killing of George Floyd by a policeman in Minneapolis, were excluded.
https://www.voanews.com/usa/2019-deadliest-year-domestic-terrorism-says-fbi-director
>Terror attacks carried out by white supremacists and other domestic extremists have been on the rise in recent years. According to the FBI, domestic violent extremists killed 39 people in five separate attacks during fiscal 2019. That compares with four victims in four extremist attacks during fiscal 2018.
https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2020/10/07/white-supremacist-groups-pose-greatest-us-domestic-terror-threat
>Threat Assessment” released on Tuesday, the Department of Homeland Security named white supremacist groups as the single most dangerous domestic extremist threat to the nation. White supremacist groups pose the largest threat out of any domestic extremist group in the US, according to a new DHS report. Since 2018, white supremacist groups have been responsible for more deaths than any other domestic extremist group, report says
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/04/white-supremacists-terror-threat-dhs-409236
>White supremacists present the gravest terror threat to the United States, according to a draft report from the Department of Homeland Security. Two later draft versions of the same document — all of which were reviewed by POLITICO — describe the threat from white supremacists in slightly different language. But all three drafts describe the threat from white supremacists as the deadliest domestic terror threat facing the U.S., listed above the immediate danger from foreign terrorist groups.

[Anonymous No.17796528]

>>17796393
>>17796518
https://www.statista.com/chart/19968/the-race-ethnicity-of-lone-offender-terrorists/
>The FBI has released a report into lone wolf terrorist attacks in the United States between 1972 and 2015. 52 lone offenders were included in the analysis and together they committed 33 acts of terrorism, killing 258 people and injuring 982 more. Most were U.S. citizens, born in the U.S. and single. The FBI pointed out that while the terrorists involved were "acting alone", most of them actually had family, peers or online contacts who were in a position to notice their troubling behavior".
>When it comes to the ethicity of the offenders, involved, they were predominantly white. As the following infographic shows, 65 percent were white, 13 percent were Middle Eastern, eight percent were black, along with another eight percent who were bi-racial. four percent were Asian and two percent were Hispanic.

[Anonymous No.17796696]

>>17796518
>>17796528
>Domestic
>MUH WHITE SUPREMACISTS
>Few are legit attacks

Right oppose to hundreds to sometimes a thousand killed in each week when compared to lone wolf terrorists which is throughout from 1972 to 2015, muslims have committed far more though to the point it is synonymous with islam

https://www.khaama.com/many-killed-injured-in-herat-explosion-5322333/

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/13/middleeast/isis-iraq-salah-al-din-province-attack-intl/index.html

https://www.urdupoint.com/en/world/one-child-killed-9-civilians-injured-in-tali-1192127.html

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/africa/somalia-1-dead-as-bomb-targets-covid-19-awareness-team/2170867

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9332127/Somalia-terror-attack-20-people-killed-30-wounded-Mogadishu.html

https://www.arabnews.com/node/1826421/world

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-56411157

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/2/11/five-afghan-troops-killed-as-gunmen-attack-un-convoy-near-kabul

https://nypost.com/2021/03/02/3-female-media-workers-killed-on-way-home-in-afghanistan/

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2021-02-18/gunmen-kill-nine-in-northern-burkina-faso-road-attack

https://www.krqe.com/news/world/kenyan-police-believe-man-who-shot-2-dead-was-an-extremist/

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-56254356

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/298542

https://medforth.blog/2021/03/15/german-language-turkish-religious-book-legitimises-murder-and-chastisement-of-women/

https://www.persecution.org/2021/03/15/disturbing-video-released-abducted-nigerian-students/

https://pakobserver.net/madrassa-teacher-kills-student/

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/298453

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2021/03/15/unemployed-man-in-kl-fined-rm10000-for-insulting-islam-on-facebook/1957991

https://rairfoundation.com/sharia-alert-police-protection-needed-for-additional-french-teachers-accused-of-insulting-islam-video/

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/03/13/paris-minor-migrants-from-three-north-african-countries-made-up-75-per-cent-of-arrests/

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/suspected-islamists-kill-at-least-a-dozen-villagers-in-eastern-congo-662050

https://www.duvarenglish.com/turkish-muslim-leader-in-germany-resigns-after-exposure-of-racist-social-media-posts-news-56603

https://www.opindia.com/2021/03/pakistani-university-expels-students-for-hugging-within-the-campus/
(This shit was retarded)

https://www.opindia.com/2021/03/sitaram-yechury-abbas-siddiqui-cpim-save-india-west-bengal-assembly-elections/

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/isis-terror-plots-uk-sahayb-abu-b1816424.html

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/03/13/paris-minor-migrants-from-three-north-african-countries-made-up-75-per-cent-of-arrests/

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/03/12/pakistani-migrant-arrested-after-sexually-assaulting-off-duty-cop/

https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/130320212-amp

[Anonymous No.17796855]

>>17796696
>Breitbart
An alt right mushroom, you are. Your post and opinion is subsequently disregarded

[Anonymous No.17796905]

>you’re not compatible with our degenerate societies!
Yes
>you don’t let people walk all over your religion!
Yes
>you don’t want to assimilate!
Yes
>Europe’s demographics are changing because of you!
Yes
>You want women to cover up!
Yes

[Anonymous No.17796966]

>>17796696
>Right oppose to hundreds to sometimes a thousand killed in each week when compared to lone wolf terrorists which is throughout from 1972 to 2015, muslims have committed far more though to the point it is synonymous with islam
Blah blah blah all you do is talk liek a woman. It's simple you offend Islam, you die. And if you were right in front of me you would die, but at least you would have the honor of dying like a man instead of continue living like a woman.

[Anonymous No.17796985]

>>17787759
Basically this.

>>17796696

[Anonymous No.17797002]

>>17796966
>ypu talk leik a woman
>Y you should die.
Lol yes because I dare talk shit about your religion right?
Dont worry I think your religion is fake and gay.

I guess calling things for how it actually is not something I would expect from a woman.

[Anonymous No.17797009]

>>17796905
If you are so proud of our incompatibilities why the fuck don't you go back to your countries?
Keep stretching the string, when it breaks it won't be pretty for you.

[Anonymous No.17797016]

>>17797002
>I dare to talk look at me little guy being brave
Talk is cheap, boy. Stand fast with your fists out and get ready to die.

[Anonymous No.17797023]

>>17797009
>Keep stretching the string, when it breaks it won't be pretty for you
What are ypu going to do little bitch boy? Talk our ears off?

[Anonymous No.17797034]

>>17796966
You wouldn't do shit little ape.

[Anonymous No.17797039]

>>17797023
You must be either blind or retarded if you think Europe will compromise with your political aims.
Pogroms will come back before allowing the islamization of Europe.

[Anonymous No.17797042]

>>17797034
>Jihad allows the killing of infidels
>Muslims commit most terrorist acts
>Y-y-you wouldn't do it I-I-I -swear

[Anonymous No.17797046]

>>17797039
>W-w-we is about compromise
There's no comprise, bitch boy. You will either submit or perish.

[Anonymous No.17797050]

>>17797042
Yeah you're good at driving trucks over children.

[Anonymous No.17797106]

>>17797050
>Yeah you're good at driving trucks over children
That's right, I am. Maybe I'll drive a truck next over your child, but you probably don't have any - unlike chad Muslims with 5 children or more - due to low sperm count for being such a pussy

[Anonymous No.17797135]

>>17797039
Nooo, my liberalism is being threatened!

[Anonymous No.17797146]

>>17797106
>unlike chad Muslims with 5 children
Lol no browncel, keep dreaming at driving trucks over children while Habiba studies STEM and get fucked by her multiple kaffir lovers (in the ass).

[Anonymous No.17797190]

>>17795566
Wouldn't expect a desert dweller to understand what's beyond the material.
That's why you don't have any philosophers.

[Anonymous No.17797222]

>>17797190
>Ibn Arabi
>al-Ghazali
>Ibn Sina
>Ibn Khaldun
...


>Guenon

[Anonymous No.17797227]

>>17797146
>while Habiba studies STEM and get fucked by her multiple kaffir lovers (in the ass).
Hahahahahahahahahahahaa what a nice fantasy, of course you would think of fucking in the ass gaylord. No wonder the fertility of the West is in rapid decline as you're too afraid of the pussy, in order to even have children.

[Anonymous No.17797278]

>>17797227
Idiot, Habiba takes it in the ass so that she may appear virgin when she settles for a browncel like you. Look, it bleeds! She's virgin! He wouldn't know she took a whole cock carrousel in her ass, would he?

[Anonymous No.17797312]

>>17797278
>she took a whole cock carrousel in her as
>More anal fantasies
Hahahaha keep talking gaylord

[Anonymous No.17797315]

>>17795948
You dumb paki, you probably thought this was a smart rebuttal. Islamic intelligence, everyone.

[Anonymous No.17797335]

>>17797034
Location now.

[Anonymous No.17797347]

>>17797222
They's dead for centuries, my retarded paki friend.

[Anonymous No.17797360]

>>17797312
Seethe browncel. Even when Habiba takes it in her vagina for a change, a bit of hymen reconstruction surgery and she's virgin again for the fat muslim retard she marries (a booming industry very popular among muslim girls)

[Anonymous No.17797374]

>>17797347
>They's dead for centuries
So are Plato and Aristotle, yet they're still the greatest philosophers that came out of West.

[Anonymous No.17797415]

>>17797009
The kuffar are destroying themselves with degeneracy and liberalism. You are all bark and no bite. You will go out with a whimper, your DOTR will never happen.

[Anonymous No.17797639]

why are people so butthurt about Islam actually?

[Anonymous No.17797777]

>>17797374
Yes.
Jealous?

[Anonymous No.17797927]

>>17782122
i am the guy you are replying to, I'd recommend the first half of Toshihiko Izutsu's 'Sufism and Taoism' as the best intro to Ibn Arabi, and then I would recommend William Chittick's works on Ibn Arabi, which are basically just translations of parts of the meccan revelations

[Anonymous No.17797968]

Stop ruining my thread, I just want to understand the sand religion better.

[Anonymous No.17798138]

>>17797639
Jewish propaganda against Islam

[Anonymous No.17798147]

>>17775622
Osama was a very angry man. it is sunnah not to be angry.

[Anonymous No.17799477]

>>17798147
Source? Every account I know of shows him as very collected and didn't raise his voice

[Anonymous No.17799643]

>>17797415
You will be thrown out like trash.

[Anonymous No.17800610]

David Wood already destroyed Islam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qx1IkH5pNH0

[Anonymous No.17801594]

>>17798138
truth*

[Anonymous No.17802195]

>>17800610
ah yes, David "attempted murder on his own father" Wood. I'm suprised this guy still has the cognitive capacity to form sentences together

[Anonymous No.17802355]

>>17799643
meanwhile in reality...