/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.17775487]

Please just tell me which book I need to read to stop jacking off

[Anonymous No.17775498]

>>17775487
The bible.

[Anonymous No.17775502]

>>17775487
Ephesians & Luke

[Anonymous No.17775511]

>>17775487

[Anonymous No.17775516]

I don't know myself, but someone had said "The Coiled Serpent" would help with this

[Anonymous No.17775519]

>>17775487
>biz
maybe some of jordan peterson's pre-fame writing and lectures

[Anonymous No.17775542]

>>17775487
>tfw currently combatting erectile dysfunction
>can no longer get fully hard
>can't get hard at all except watching porn I find disgusting and demoralizing (cuck shit, gore shit, beastiality shit,...and worse)
Even after not jacking off for a while it isn't coming back it seems. I'm only a few days in mind you and have constant intrusive thoughts. My advice? Keep busy, do something else. Hanging out all day on the internet is basically agreeing to fail after pretending to try.

https://easypeasymethod.org/introduction.html
Is a good place to start.

I'm in a lot of pain right, emotional, spiritual, and even physical discomfort. I tell myself this is praxis, the process to undoing some of what I've done. It took years to become like this, change won't happen overnight, and it won't be pleasant either, long slow torment is the only path to redemption.

Good luck anon.

[Anonymous No.17775547]

>>17775487
Seems you got a lot of troll answers, but picrel helped me a bunch. Very much a no bullshit, no religious shilling look at addiction and why we coom and how to stop. It also has interviews with various coomers who’ve turned their life around

[Anonymous No.17775549]

Don't, just become a vanillachad

[Anonymous No.17775558]

a method of addiction management is to refute all of the excuses you make for yourself when you're doing the thing you're trying to quit. so try doing that

[Anonymous No.17775562]

>>17775542
Keep at it man. I remember when I went cold turkey and the side effects really unexpectedly knocked me for six. I was so irritable, headache prone and found it difficult to sleep. Though once I got a good 2 weeks into nofap it was so worth it for how good I felt. I just had to trade gap time for exercise time, so I had some kind of physical release. I believe in you man, keep on keeping on

[Anonymous No.17775580]

>>17775542
>My advice? Keep busy, do something else. Hanging out all day on the internet is basically agreeing to fail after pretending to try.
This cannot be overstated. Your brain is very good at tricking you to feel you're addressing a problem while also indulging it. Pic related.

[Anonymous No.17775602]

>>17775562
I just want my dick to work, I'm still in my 20s but have never had sex. I'd rather die than continue like this. I'm keeping busy by reading anything and everything I'm unfamiliar with, I've found a lot of value in Oriental writings and stories I would have never otherwise picked up. The stories themselves feel different.

[Anonymous No.17775609]

it made me a better person

[Anonymous No.17775630]

>>17775602
I was in a similar boat with the dick thing; found it hard to keep my bird hard during sex sometimes. Couple of weeks porn and fap free though my dick was like a baby’s arm holding an apple. It’s crazy how much jacking it fucks the nerves up, but it can/will heal itself and you’ll be more game for your first fuck. It’s good you’re reading stuff, but I think trying to find a nice girl would help you even more, something to not fap for, I mean. Easier said than done, I know.
As an aside Lao Tzu is very based.

[Anonymous No.17775641]

>>17775630
Your encouragement is valued, thank you.

[Anonymous No.17775798]

I suffered from PIED when I started having sex, even on the first time. For my 25-year-old (at the time) incel-brain it was pretty brutal. Took a couple weeks with a *very* patient partner before I could actually fuck. During that time, I had stopped using porn.
I'm still fighting porn addiction, but I used to be a lot worse. I had a 2TB drive dedicated to porn, would load up multiple windows, and would fap while also taking combinations of stimulating drugs. I was a high-effort coomer. This is obvious retarded in retrospect, and it was the most degenerate time in my life. Deleted all my saved shit years ago, but I still fall into the trap by seeing sexy photos on Instagram and searching for more.
Started reading EasyPeasy so I hope I can finally get over this shit forever.
Posting this just to say that the slippery slope is real, but that it *is* possible to recover from the bad effects. Good luck.

[Anonymous No.17775850]

>>17775798
lmfao, you were like the russell brand of jerking off

[Anonymous No.17776412]

>>17775487
The coiled serpent by Van Vliet

[Anonymous No.17776451]

>>17775798
Fuck. You sound like me.

I've been wrestling over whether or not to delete my 1 T drive(Purged multiple times in the past), but every time I do I start rationalizing why it would be a bad idea.

I hate masturbating, but when I'm in the coomzone I'm a monster. Multiple tabs, audio, simulating certain physical sensations. It's not pretty.

I've pretty much wasted a large portion of my life due to it, and am afraid I'll end up shooting myself eventually.

[Anonymous No.17776481]

read a nice mango

https://e-hentai.org/g/1408957/c01126cb7f/

[Anonymous No.17776495]

Something that makes you angry. If you are part of the third world it's very easy to pick up a history book and get angry.

[Anonymous No.17776500]

>>17776481
You joke but I unironically stopped fapping to lolis after reading this

[Anonymous No.17776518]

>>17775542
>and worse
what worse fren?

[Anonymous No.17776522]

>>17776518
based glowie

[Anonymous No.17776528]

>>17776500
Why? Looks pretty nice

[Anonymous No.17776543]

>>17776495
Using myself as an example here:
-"El Jute" by Luis Garcia
-"Análisis Crítico de las Condiciones Técnicas de los Ferrocarriles de la Standard Fruit Co." by Díaz Chavez

Currently reading "Alzamiento Popular de 1954 y el PCH" by Tomás Erazo Peña

Will read:
"Hegemonía de los Estados Unidos en Honduras" by Marvin Barahona

Titles in spanish as they are just in case someone is interested

[Anonymous No.17776546]

>>17775487
What is it with the simp epidemic on /lit/?

[Anonymous No.17776680]

>>17776522
>based glowie
im no glowie im a frien just like you lets be frens

[Anonymous No.17776784]

>>17776481
This is quite good. Too bad it gets repetitive after a while

[Anonymous No.17777007]

>>17775487
Books can't help you now. You have to really want to stop.

[Anonymous No.17777042]

>>17775487
You're not going to change your mind rationally; you need some sort of emotional or moral reasoning to change.

[Anonymous No.17777181]

https://easypeasymethod.org the only one you need, best of wishes to all struggling against coomerism

[Anonymous No.17777189]

>>17775487
i'm in a similar boat, but i think i'm getting close to the end here
i used to be a "edge for hours a day for literally fucking WEEKS" and i think it actually damaged my body. since then i have pretty much completely removed all sexuality from my identity, i am no longer scared of it or interested in it, it is merely a burden to me that i hope to be free of soon. i have fully realized and come to understand that i do not actually enjoy sex, i have never enjoyed sex, it was always just what essentially amounts to drug use and beyond the "first few" i was either chasing a high that i never quite got (edging for weeks) or just doing it to make the urges go away and feel normal (jacking off 3x a day). it never actually felt good, it only ever made me stop feeling bad, but the whole reason it made me feel so bad in the first place was because i kept doing it
all that's left for me is to make the final decision of when i am finally going to leave this behind me and endure the weeks of physiological discomfort before i can get back to normal without jacking off, and then to commit to it

[Anonymous No.17777201]

>>17777042
What do you mean? Could you expand on that?

[Anonymous No.17777209]

>>17777189
read easypeasy like I linked above, he outlines your exact same thought process the way you do but by the end you will be able to stop using porn immediately with little to no physiological discomfort, you will, in fact, immediately rejoice and feel free. its difficult to believe but it works, I was pretty similar to you and that book helped me stop immediately

[Anonymous No.17777258]

>>17775487
>>17775542
12 Rules for Life - Jordan Peterson
Wired for Intimacy - William M. Struthers
Your Brain on porn - Gary Wilson
The Holy Bible - ???
https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/anti-porn
Hope these help. Godspeed anons.

[Anonymous No.17777265]

>>17775487
Bible

[Anonymous No.17777279]

>>17776451
Do like did in Ted 2 and throw the thing in the lake. Delete any porn you have saved. Get a website blocker (I use Stay Focused but you can use any) and block all the websites (on everybody and device you have) that make you want to fap. Burn all porn or fap magazines.

[Anonymous No.17777287]

>>17776481
I don't want to click the link, what happens in it?

[Anonymous No.17777331]

>>17775487
Holy Bible

[Anonymous No.17777379]

>>17777287
vanilla sex and impregnation

[Anonymous No.17777417]

>>17777279
If I do this then there must be no going back.

I've purged my porn before, but the withdrawal and backlash has been several times worse than just keeping it. I know that's weak willed to say, but my only option really is to go all in for good or else I'm in for the worst.

[Anonymous No.17777451]

Pornography should be illegal.

[Anonymous No.17777477]

There should be a detox hospital for porn addicts. Like. Out in the woods where they can't access WiFi and there's no phones, like some kind of camp where they can concentrate on overcoming their problem.

[Anonymous No.17777549]

>>17777477
>like some kind of camp where they can concentrate on overcoming their problem
Like a concentration camp?

[Anonymous No.17777560]

>>17775487
READ TLP + COMMENTS

https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/02/hes_just_not_that_into_anyone.html
>I realized that quitting is what smokers try to do, while simply not smoking is something (not) done by by billions of weak-willed people every day. I decided that smoking wasn't my kind of thing anymore... I wasn't that kind of guy. Once I accepted that as a fact, it became one. Thanks again.

https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/03/shame.html
>The solution to your problem-- and of course only 0.3% of you are true sex addicts, so I am now talking to those who feel a little ashamed at how much porn they use or about the ringwraiths they've bedded-- is not to refrain-- you can't resist your desires forever. You must practice a new skill, you must become the kind of person who wouldn't turn to porn when they are: lonely; horny; boredy. If you practice a new skill enough times, it will become first nature, and you will be a different person. Please note that it is that last part, not the giving up of porn, that makes the change difficult. Giving up porn is easy squeezy. Becoming the kind of person who doesn't need to use porn on Thursdays at 11:30p because that's when you have a few hours free is hard.
>But the practical thing people do wrong with porn is put it in the Matrix: pretend to themselves it's bad, pretend it's not something they do, yet spend tons of time on it. So it drags on for hours. Accept it and lock it down to a specific length of time. You won't feel nearly as ashamed.

[Anonymous No.17777594]

>>17775487
No.

[Anonymous No.17777614]

>>17777560
More from
https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/02/hes_just_not_that_into_anyone.html

>When you characterize porn as an addiction it tells you that it is hard to break free, that it is a struggle, that relapse is inevitable-- all things that have nothing to do with porn. But when you characterize online porn as junk food, the solution is obvious: don't eat it.

>Easier said than done, I know, but the thing I find helps most people is to understand that you can't refrain from doing something you like. You can, however, change the person you are into the kind of person who doesn't even like that stuff. Sugar Smacks still taste the same as they did under Carter, but I don't know anybody who still eats them. Do the same for soda.

>In medical school a lot of the guys (who went into ortho) went to the gym and would discuss with euphoria how much canned tuna they ate. "There's 15g of protein and zero fat!" they'd whisper to each other, and they'd sooner eat salamander eyes than lick a Dorito. That was the kind of guys they were.

>This may not be a reassuring solution to some, but I can promise you that it is the only solution: you have to decide you're not the kind of person who wastes time on that. Condemning it, banning it, hiding from it-- all will lead to failure. Lust isn't the trigger, boredom is, idle hands are something or other, so the sooner you get a default activity, the better. When your wife walks in on you in the midst of an overhand tug and she moans, "you are pathetic!" she's really a vowel off, apathetic is more accurate and considerably more amenable to improvement.

IN OTHER WORDS:
What's TLP's tagline? "Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent." Wittgenstein adds: "You cannot draw the seed up out of the earth. All you can do is give it warmth and moisture and light; then it must grow."

Unsatisfactory, but the reality is that it just "has to happen," and hopefully this can be the trigger. You can make it so.

[Anonymous No.17777721]

>>17775487
a heavy one you need two hands to hold.

[Anonymous No.17778269]

>>17775487
Yesterday I was waiting for the rain to stop so I could bike over to the grocery store to get food for the week. I was so bored that I considered jacking off even though I had already done so the past two days in a row. I tried taking a nap, but I wasn't tired, so instead I started reading Red Rising, which a buddy of mine has been shilling to me for years. It's really fuckin' good.

[Anonymous No.17778275]

>>17775487
The bible.

[Anonymous No.17778506]

i haven't jacked off in two weeks and idk why. probably wont for a while either but i kind of like this feel.

[Anonymous No.17778530]

>>17775630
If you had "fucked your nerves up" two weeks wouldn't have fixed anything. What a shitty broscience thread.

[Anonymous No.17778534]

Hideo Okuda - Lala Pipo

[Anonymous No.17779246]

>>17775487
Stop jacking off completely or quit pornography? Completely stopping is bad, it's just the other end of the "spectrum".
Suppose we have a coomer who does nothing but watch pornography and coom all day every day, and on the other end someone who tries his best to abstain from sexual release entirely. On the face of it, complete opposites. However, the person denying himself sexual release (assuming he does not have a partner) will inevitably find himself craving it and being consumed by the thoughts of sexual release. Unless that person has hormone imbalances or other conditions. At any rate, now the two are nearly the same - one does indulge in his cravings whilst the other one ends up frustrated and consumed by those desires, but at the end of the day they're both coombrains.
tl;dr stop watching porn and jerk off 1-2 times a week

[Anonymous No.17779343]

I honestly don't understand how masturbation can affect you guys so much, I do it everyday and I don't feel like it's destroying my life. For me it's something that I usually do at night before bed for fun, nothing more.

You guys sound like hardcore meth addicts, and it's just so unfathomable that masturbation has affected your life to this point.

[Anonymous No.17779413]

>>17779343
>you sound like a bunch of addicts
>I do this drug every day and it doesn't bother me
Try quitting lol

[Anonymous No.17779432]

>>17775487
literally use your imagination and everything will fix itself

[Anonymous No.17779441]

You don't need to masturbate at all. Your body has a built-in system for absorbing surplus sperm and triggering orgasms from dreams which is strangely almost as erotically satisfying as sex. By masturbating you're exploiting a bio-hack. By looking at pornography you're just amping that bio-hack up to a ridiculous level. Quit doing that and either go monk mode and get wet dreams or get a wife. Masturbating is a waste of time and energy you should be putting into spiritual or intellectual or financial pursuits or courtship.

[Anonymous No.17779446]

>>17779441
PS using your imagination is healthier than looking at porn. That stuff is spiritual poison.

[Anonymous No.17779506]

>>17779413
I've done nofap for a month and I didn't feel any different, the first week was kinda annoying at night since I usually got an erection which made it a bit harder to fall asleep, but even that went away.

[Anonymous No.17779523]

>>17777560
>Accept it and lock it down to a specific length of time. You won't feel nearly as ashamed.

jwish

[Anonymous No.17779549]

>>17779506
But you had more free time, right?

[Anonymous No.17779635]

>>17779549
I had the same amount of free time, it's just that a part of that free time I previously spent on masturbating I instead spent on something else. I can see the value in not masturbating if you want to dedicate 100% of all your time into something, but I'm not that kind of person. Sometimes I just like to relax and do nothing, and masturbation is perfect for those times.

I think the difference between me and anons here is that for them masturbation is an urge that they have to feed and impedes them from doing the things they really want to do, while for me it's something I actually enjoy and do for fun.

[Anonymous No.17779756]

>>17778530
He doesn’t mean your literal nerves, but your neuroticisms.

[Anonymous No.17779805]

>>17777560
This, I think the real problem is the outlets and people's excessive enthusiasm for sexual shit.
Shame is a healthy emotion to a degree because it acts as a natural confinement barrier for this stuff. The key is always balance, sexuality is part of mankind, it cannot be repressed but like many things it can go sour if left unchecked. Sadly humanity's greatest problem is the complete lack of moderation. I think this is also why it's better to err on the conservative side because it's better to have someone slip and repent than having an unabashed degenerate with no self-control or reasons to have any.
But then again I'm not that degenerate a degenerate compared to the really degenerate degenerates.

[Anonymous No.17779812]

>>17779441
What about masturbating but retaining semen by using your muscles or hand, making it stay in your body?

[Anonymous No.17779910]

>>17779812
Don’t do that shit. It’ll go backwards and widen up the passage. Don’t screw up your ejaculatory ducts

[Anonymous No.17779938]

>>17779910
Is there proof on that? I couldn't find any scientific evidence, no side-effects and it's been done for decades, apparently.
And if it does, widen then, what's the problem? Less pressure?

[Anonymous No.17780439]

I keep seeing men talking about all these benefits they get when they haven't cum in 30 days or whatever, but all those benefits I experience every day and still cum twice per week to porn. What gives?

[Anonymous No.17780492]

>>17780439
beyond 3 days it makes no difference

[Anonymous No.17780495]

>>17775487
This, both volumes, and the third when it comes out this summer; but you probably won't understand as long as you keep cooming. Sorry.

[Anonymous No.17780542]

>>17780492
Depends. Studies show a peak of testosterone on the 7th day, but it goes back down on the 8th. It is assumed it could be useful for maximizing muscle growth and strength training, but there's no conclusive proof.
Everything else seems like people that were coomers instead of jacking now and then like it's been done since around 3000BC (at least that we know of). If you only do it now and then you can still have plenty of time and energy for other things. Plus, if I don't do it my mind is always going for sexual thoughts every time I see a mildly attractive woman, even if only the face is showing.

[Anonymous No.17780548]

>>17775487
Easy Peasy Method dot Org

[Anonymous No.17780579]

>>17780542
>even if only the face is showing.
only subhumans get aroused by pictures of beavers

[Anonymous No.17780593]

>>17780579
What do you mean? I'm not into animals.

[Anonymous No.17781148]

>>17775542
whore

[Anonymous No.17781170]

hrt unless you're agp, then it'll probably make you hornier lol

[Anonymous No.17781233]

>>17781170
I don't think autogynophiles would like that because real life sex changes don't make you attractive (whether or not you consider them genuine sex changes) especially if you are ugly originally

[Anonymous No.17781252]

>>17781170
why are all trannies just the worst and most vile coomers imaginable

[Anonymous No.17781427]

>>17775487
If you need a book to stop cooming, youre a oost cause.

[Anonymous No.17781429]

>>17775487
Transformation mastery

[Anonymous No.17781441]

What a disgusting thread.

[Anonymous No.17781481]

Just jacked, came buckets, felt pretty good, did weekly meal prep, trained shoulders and about to read some greek philosophy. Just go according to the call of nature.

[Anonymous No.17781556]

>>17781252
it is the natural progression after years of pornography.

[Anonymous No.17782298]

>What a disgusting thread.

[Anonymous No.17782427]

>>17775487
All of them

[Anonymous No.17782449]

>>17779343
some people's brains are wired differently. 90% of people have gotten drunk at some point, right? so why do only a small percentage become alcoholics? they have genetically fucked up dopamine receptors

[Anonymous No.17782519]

>>17779343
Same here, but I only do it usually on my days off, saturday and sunday, 1 time each. I do it because I have a constant boner which I want to stop and it stops/eases the sexual thoughts during weekdays, allowing me to concentrate more at work and reading. Sometimes 2 or 3 weeks go by and then I remember I haven't jacked in awhile. Keeping yourself in slightly colder rooms also doesn't make you pop a boner.

[Anonymous No.17782528]

>>17778530
I can smell the cum on you through the network connection.

[Anonymous No.17783099]

>>17775487
Fundamental Verses of the Middle Way

[Anonymous No.17783887]

>>17776680
You're trying too hard, glowie.

[Anonymous No.17784064]

>>17782519
>Sunday
You're not supposed to engage in onanism on the Lord's day.

[Anonymous No.17784082]

>>17775487
WHy do u need a book? Lmao just dont touch your dick stupid!

[Anonymous No.17784173]

>>17783887
in just tryna be cute n somewhat funne

[Anonymous No.17784373]

are people who have fap addictions more likely to have high testosterone or is that BS?

[Anonymous No.17784477]

>>17784373
it's true, being low T will make you much less horny and dreaming about sexual stuff

[Anonymous No.17785143]

>>17775602
Women are much nicer and more understanding than you think. Give it a shot, you may surprise yourself. And if not, you at least have more information but are otherwise in the same boat as before—thinking your dick won’t work that is. I don’t often venture to message boards anymore, but the problem I always see is all thought and no action. Overthinking is not conducive to an erection anyways, regardless of what your problem is!

[Anonymous No.17785257]

>>17785143
Women are too nice

[Anonymous No.17785529]

>>17775580
Only lift, read, maybe meditate for 7 days straight? No talking to people, music, even looking at your own art in your room? And the kicker: Doing nothing also not allowed.

Sounds like an unreasonable goal if there ever was one.

[Anonymous No.17786381]

>>17785143
>Women are much nicer and more understanding than you think
It's all a façade you naive boy

[Anonymous No.17786396]

>>17775487
lolita

[Anonymous No.17786418]

>>17775487
The holy Bible.

[Anonymous No.17786440]

>>17775487
Any book big enough to need two hands to hold

[Anonymous No.17786452]

>>17785143
Retard.

[Anonymous No.17786459]

>>17786381
Nice try, mom. I'm going to find a good woman and break away from your influence.

[Anonymous No.17787208]

>>17779938
you shoot it out with less force, I guess. Do it a couple of times, you’ll feel terrible.

[Anonymous No.17787562]

>>17776451
Do it now, your brain is resisting because it depends on porn as a crutch

Nuke the drive while you have clarity and never look back

[Anonymous No.17787655]

The one that makes you so depressed that you no longer have an appetite or libido. Worked for me.

[Anonymous No.17787709]

You have already completed the first step: the realization that masturbation is actually bad for you. Now, your next step will be learning how to persevere.
I read the Bible: www.bibletranslation.ws /trans /john.pdf
But if you're afraid of Jesus, feel free to read the best worldly book there is to offer: https:// easypeasymethod.org/ easypeasy.pdf

[Anonymous No.17787721]

>>17775547
>to quit porn, learn why porn is bad
he knows it's bad
>Jesus bad
orange man bad

[Anonymous No.17788768]

tfw overcame anti fap brainwashing

[Anonymous No.17789839]

>>17784064
I am the Lord, therefore I do as I please.
>>17787208
I did. Had an energy rush for 10 minutes, dick stayed hard and had no orgasm. Tried it 4 times and all the same. I'll just let it out. I don't even have post nut clarity any more because instead of regretting it I just embrace it as part of nature's will.
>>17787709
>/trans
ayy, christians confirmed trannies