Theological question

[Anonymous No.17772053]

If the price of sin is death, how come Adam and Eve get sentenced to die for being disobedient after eating the fruit, but the Devil doesn't? Shouldn't he also have instantly turned into a mortal? Shouldn't he as a matter of fact have instantly been doomed to die the moment he first started the war in Heaven, long before Adam and Eve were even created? The reason we have to be purified before theosis is supposedly because God's nature is only limited by being so Holy and Good that anything sinful that comes close to Him is instantly destroyed - then how come the Satan can actually still talk to God, as shown in the book of Jonah?

[Anonymous No.17772065]

>>17772053
The devil is in eternal torment. He's not a mortal.

[Anonymous No.17772084]

>>17772065
Yes but that's the question though, how come we get to die because of Sin but the Devil doesn't. He sinned first, why isn't he a mortal?

[Anonymous No.17772100]

>>17772053
>If the price of sin is death
it's not

[Anonymous No.17772134]

>>17772100
sorry, meant to say "the wage of Sin is Death" (Romans 6:23). We were supposed to enjoy Creation with God eternally, as immortals, by his side. Disobedience caused Death to enter into the post-Fall world

[Anonymous No.17772140]

>>17772084
He is in spiritual death. For eternity until judgement day.

[Anonymous No.17772166]

>>17772140
but how come his body did not become subject to change or he never had to put on "clothes made of skin" or just grow old and die like every human being did?

[Anonymous No.17772185]

>>17772166
He was an angel. He is not a mortal.

[Anonymous No.17772198]

>>17772185
Fren please stop playing monkey games with me, I'm looking for real answers
>Adam and Eve pre-Fall were not mortals
>They fell and became mortal
>Satan before turning against God was not a mortal
>Yet he fell and remained a non-mortal
Why is that

[Anonymous No.17772219]

>>17772198
We weren't angels though, you have to understand that there was still the implicit hierarchy and that we were still humans.

Obviously there's a lot of theological speculation and assertion about the nature of evil, and these questions you are asking go right to the heart of them.

[Anonymous No.17772245]

>>17772219
What patristic literature goes more in depth on this subject or provides an explanation for this

[Anonymous No.17772280]

>>17772245
I'm sorry anon but I don't know enough about early Christian writing, but I can direct you to two of my favourites, Augustine and The Shepherd of Hermas.