what the fuck was he doing in the 13th century?

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Anonymous Sat Mar 13 07:02:43 2021 No.17771349 [Reply] [Original]

what the fuck was he doing in the 13th century?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 07:14:22 2021 No.17771390 im still trying to figure out what I should read in between virgil and dante (other than boethius)

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 08:11:12 2021 No.17771687

>>17771390
In reverse chronological order:
Cavalcanti
Guinizzelli
Brunetto Latini
Bonaventure
Roger Bacon
Vincent of Beauvais
Bonvesin de la Riva
Giacomo da Lentini
Jacobus de Varagine
Hugh of Saint-Cher
St Francis of Assisi
Clare of Assisi
Nibelungenlied
Roman de la Rose
Chanson de Roland
Hildegard of Bingen
Abelard & Héloïse
Alain de Lille
Walafrid Strabo
Remigius of Auxerre
Venerable Bede
Scotus Eriugena
Isidore of Seville
Gregory the Great
Namatianus
Augustine

I haven't read all of these, I'm still advancing in my knowledge of Medieval literature, but I guarantee that most of it is absolutely wonderful.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 08:27:56 2021 No.17771747 >>17771349 Unironically he was guided by god

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 08:42:01 2021 No.17771819 >>17771687 thanks anon, i'll look into these

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 08:42:50 2021 No.17771823 test

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 08:45:40 2021 No.17771833 [DELETED]

i started reading leviathan on my ipad this morning and like two pages in he already said newton's law of motion which had only been out for less than a year at the time of publication, and took shots at artistotle for being wrong about everything, hobbes goes hard af.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 09:56:22 2021 No.17772125 is it really true that it was impossible for him to have read Homer? did Virgil read Homer?

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>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 09:58:34 2021 No.17772136 >>17772125 Virgil, yes. Dante didn't know Greek.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 10:06:47 2021 No.17772183 >>17771349 read his biography, faggot

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 10:08:33 2021 No.17772189 >>17771390 read some chanson de geste

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 10:08:55 2021 No.17772193 >>17771747 If by God you mean Allah, then you would be right as Dante stole everything.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 10:10:11 2021 No.17772199

>>17772125
He probably had access to Latin summaries of the Omeric poems but not to the originals or the knowledge of Greek required to read them - which would come back to Italy only about a hundred years after him. Virgil on the other hand was most likely fluent in Greek, had access to however many copies he wanted and likely knew whole sections of the poems by heart, much like any other intellectual of his times.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 10:10:31 2021 No.17772202 >>17772193 No Allah is the jewish god, he meant God

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 10:11:08 2021 No.17772207 >>17772202 >No Allah is the jewish god Lel hardly given that a Jewish woman poisoned Muhammad

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 10:11:14 2021 No.17772208 >>17771687 Add Boccaccio and the Troubadour poets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZIL3FU01wQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D33BNYiUbjE

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 10:12:16 2021 No.17772213 >>17772125 Homer was first translated to Latin in 1488.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 10:13:25 2021 No.17772224 >>17772208 Boccaccio was after Dante

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 10:16:08 2021 No.17772236 >>17772207 That doesn't disprove anything, doesn't your god work in mysterious ways? Anyways based jewess

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 10:19:23 2021 No.17772252 literally made an equivalent of wojak face meme by writing his enemies in to hell

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 10:19:52 2021 No.17772254 >>17772125 He never read the odyssey, what he knew about ulysses (who is in hell) was from the aeneid

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 10:20:43 2021 No.17772255 >>17772254 He also puts Homer in Hell.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 10:22:01 2021 No.17772260 >>17772255 >he actually thought ulysses existed Was dante retarded?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 10:22:25 2021 No.17772261 >>17771687 Do you have a larger reading list? Please post

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 10:23:27 2021 No.17772267 >>17772261 >>17771687 I meant a larger reading list that is not confined to writers between those two

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 10:24:36 2021 No.17772273 >>17772267 >>17772261 I do, give me a few minutes

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 10:27:56 2021 No.17772293 You DID read la vita nova to fully comprehend the divine comedy, right /lit/?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 10:29:18 2021 No.17772299 >>17772213 haha 1488

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 10:32:25 2021 No.17772325 >>17772293 Well, the De Monarchia is actually more in line with what Dante thought when reading the comedy

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 10:33:52 2021 No.17772332 >>17772325 *writing

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Anonymous Sat Mar 13 11:39:19 2021 No.17772695

>>17771687
>>17772267
>>17772261
Still in reverse chronological order:
Catherine of Siena
Henry of Langenstein
Giovanni Boccaccio
Francesco Petrarca
Jacopone da Todi
Joachim of Fiore
Elisabeth of Schönau
William the Breton
Daniel of Morley
Stephen Langton
William of Tyre
Otto of Freising
Petrus Comestor
Hugh of Saint Victor
Bernard of Clairvaux
Honorius of Autun
Chronicles of Saint Gall
Chronicle of Novalesa
Guibert of Nogent
Adam of Bremen
William of Poitiers
Navigatio Sancti Brendani
Einhard (Vita Karoli Magni)
Rabanus Maurus
Theodulf of Orléans
Alcuin of York
Paul the Deacon
Gregory of Tours
Columbanus
Benedict of Norcia
Hisperica Famina
Carmina Burana
Physiologus

Add an anthology of trobadours, an anthology of stilnovisti, some bestiaries, some lapidariums, some herbariums and something about alchemy.

The historians and chroniclers are maximum comfy though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 13:27:49 2021 No.17773370 BUMP I won't let this bread die after I've written a list of 60 Medieval authors

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 13:29:13 2021 No.17773381 >>17773370 Let go, anon; all things must pass.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 13:30:47 2021 No.17773389 >>17773370 Your list of medieval authors will live on anon. It's forever archived and I saved it too. They better be good

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 13:42:22 2021 No.17773463 >They better be good Lel. Not all of them are good, but the majority is. I particularly recommend the historians and the lyricists. Be well, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 13:43:48 2021 No.17773471 Forgot to quote >>17773463 >>17773389

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 14:00:50 2021 No.17773587 simping

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 14:08:05 2021 No.17773631 >>17772129 absolutely gay

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 14:49:38 2021 No.17773988 >>17772260 Ulysses would have been a contemporary of Aeneas as far as he was concerned. What you think the Trojan war didnt happen?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 14:52:34 2021 No.17774016 >>17773631 I'm sorry anon, maybe you could try conversion therapy?

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 15:16:42 2021 No.17774217

>>17772695
>>17771687
Good list. You missed two essential French medieval rec though: Rutebeuf and Aucassin and Nicolette.
A bit later, but absolutely essential to understand the Middle Age spirit are Villon (the Baudelaire of the times) and Charles of Orléans.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 16:31:03 2021 No.17774780

>>17774217
I don't know Rutebeuf, Aucassin, Nicolette (are they three or two?)

I didn't include Villon and Charles d'Orléans because they're more in the Renaissance period (from the 15th century onwards it's already Renaissance for me, although I do get the strong Medieval elements in their poetry)

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 17:53:31 2021 No.17775356 Do you guys have lists outside of medieval too? Anything prior to the 19th c

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 18:01:19 2021 No.17775398 >>17772255 >He also puts Homer in Hell. Yes, in Limbo. There was no other place for a pagan in the christian tradition.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 18:36:42 2021 No.17775619

>>17774780
Rutebeuf is a "famous" (as famous as a Middle Age poet can get) poet, very similar to Villon and a joy to read. As for Aucassin and Nicolette, it is a singular work, sorry if that wasn't clear. It's very interesting on its own because it's a unique text called a chantefable, a mix of verses and prose taking into account all the literary genres of the times. You seem interested in the literature of the times, I think you would like these. I also didn't include it because it came after Dante but the Roman de Fauvel is also a very interesting text of the times, especially because it crosses literature, drawing and music, and no one quite knows how the text was meant to be read/played.
I understand why you didn't include Villon and Charles d'Orléans (he's from the 14th century btw). I see them more belonging to the Middle Age period. Renaissance was a thing in Italy but it took some times to cross the Alps and the authors that are usually seen as carrying the French Renaissance are Rabelais, du Bellay and Ronsard (all are amazing writers). But yeah it's kind of a hazy categorisation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 18:48:44 2021 No.17775687 >>17771687 >>17772261 >>17772695 Saint Anselm of Canterbury (1033 - 1109) is also worth checking out. He carried on the Augustinian tradition.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 19:54:30 2021 No.17776080

>>17775619
>he's from the 14th century btw
Eh, born in 1394, at the very end... I guess we can consider him as a person of the 15th century.
>I see them more belonging to the Middle Age period
Yeah same, but as you said, it tends to be a hazy categorisation. For the same reason that pushed me to exclude Villon and Charles d'Orléans I have also excluded Thomas III of Saluzzo, who wrote the beautiful Chevalier Errant, an allegorical chivalrous poem that mixes prose, verse and various other genres. It's clearly Medieval, since it was inspired by the Divine Comedy, but it's also an early-Renaissance product in that it anticipates most of the features of Ariosto and Boiardo.
>it's a unique text called a chantefable, a mix of verses and prose taking into account all the literary genres of the times
Super interesting anon, I'll definitely check it out, thanks for the rec!

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 20:09:05 2021 No.17776170

>>17776080
>I guess we can consider him as a person of the 15th century.
Yep, got a little too fast here.
>Thomas III of Saluzzo, who wrote the beautiful Chevalier Errant
Didn't know about him, looks very interesting.
How come do you know so much about medieval literature? It's fairly rare to see someone interested in that. Most of the authors you've listed I only know by name (if not at all).

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 20:13:34 2021 No.17776199 I’ve picked up the Hollander translation of the entire Commedia - should I have a thorough knowledge of the bible before reading it? What else is necessary to know?

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 20:18:19 2021 No.17776222

>I'm writing this epic fanfiction starring myself where I go into the underworld like a badass and an ancient pagan poet is my best friend and also loves Jesus now and all the bad people are in hell and all the good people are in heaven and also my girlfriend is there
It's kinda cringe when you think about it

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 20:23:33 2021 No.17776246 >>17776222 >produces one of the most imaginative pieces of art humanity has ever seen >It’s kinda cringe when you think about it

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 20:23:42 2021 No.17776247 >>17771687 >>17772695 Hey can you put these in non-reverse chronological order?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 20:24:00 2021 No.17776248 >>17771349 I'm learning Latin right now, I don't mind not knowing modern Italian. but I'd imagine the jump from Latin to Dante's Italian is probably easier?

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 21:04:48 2021 No.17776493

>>17776248
The romance languages come from the vernacular latin not the literary ones. I cannot speak for Dante in particular because I'm not Italian but it has likely a lot more to do with modern Italian rather than latin. Texts from the 11th century written in Old French/Provencal have more similar to actual French than to Latin.
You talk about a "jump", the thing is that there aren't really ressources to learn the old version of current languages. You're kind of expected to be able to understand them through the modern language. I don't think I have the definitive answer but for all the reasons I exposed I don't think you'll be able to make an easier jump from latin to dante, rather than a one from latin to modern Italian to original Dante.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 21:28:03 2021 No.17776667 >>17776493 Okay thank you for that answer, really cleared things up from me. >latin to modern Italian to original Dante. This seems to be the best route then, thanks once again.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 21:34:43 2021 No.17776711

>>17776170
University. I took some classes on Medieval literature and it was always fairly surprising to discover how rich and beautiful it is. When you delve deeper into this subject you begin to see the greatest epic poems as almost boring, if compared with the complexity of certain Medieval literature. The Divine Comedy is perfect, of course, but reading a biblical exegete who spends pages and pages commenting a single word from the Bible is another pleasure. It may sound like an odd comparison, but some of those works remind me of Pynchon or Infinite Jest, for how labyrinthine and extensive (and obsessive) they are.

Apart from this, I have a thing for literary texts that mixes different genres or styles, and apparently this was very common in the Middle Ages. They were much more experimental than we think, and this was a consequence of the fact that they didn't have clear rules on how to arrange a book. The form always differs, even within the same genre or subgenre. Scholars love to wrack their brains on this shit.

I also love the comfy feeling of reading a chronicle or a history, sometimes they're rich of little obscure curious facts that no one recalls because they're lost in time. I don't know if you have seen this thread >>17774715 but yeah, some Medieval literature definitely conveys that one thing OP is looking for. It's something about the passage of time, the endurance in a hostile world, the feeling of a responsibility for preserving human history from a collapsing civilization (at least in certain periods), and the presence of faith, obviously.

I'm not a specialist of Medieval studies, but I must say that the curiosity that drew me to those courses really paid me back. I wish I had more than one life to read all the books by the authors I've listed.

Anonymous Sat Mar 13 21:41:16 2021 No.17776753

>>17776493
Dante's language is much more similar to modern italian than to latin. These are the first 9 lines straight from google translate and you can clearly understand their meaning with the exception of some words

In the middle of the journey of our life
I found myself in a dark forest,
for the right way was lost.

Ouch as to say what it was is hard thing
this wild and harsh and strong forest
that in thought renews fear!

It is so bitter that little is more death;
but to deal with the good that I found there,
I will tell you about the other things I have stocked there

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 22:40:51 2021 No.17777179 >>17776248 You should just learn Italian desu

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 23:08:02 2021 No.17777346 >>17777179 nah I was always going to learn it, even before I thought of reading la commedia

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 13 23:36:14 2021 No.17777520 File: 113 KB, 960x1200, 8o5z7k3rxuc61.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17773370 I was just thinking about how little I know of or hear about medieval authors. Is that because they suck or something?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 04:04:03 2021 No.17778622 >>17777520 it's because you're a dumb kpop poster

Anonymous Sun Mar 14 04:04:49 2021 No.17778625
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Brother, the world is blind, and you come from the world. You living ones continue to assign to heaven every cause, as if it were the necessary source of every motion. If this were so, then your free will would be destroyed, and there would be no equity in joy for doing good, in grief for evil. The heavens set your appetites in motion; not all your appetites, but even if that were the case, you have received both light on good and evil, and free will, which though it struggle in its first wars with the heavens, then conquers all, if it has been well nurtured. On greater power and a better nature, you, who are free, depend; that Force engenders the mind in you, outside the heavens' sway. Thus, if the present world has gone astray, in you is the cause, in you it's to be sought; and now I'll serve as your true exegete.

Issuing from His hands, the soul, on which He thought with love before creating it, is like a child who weeps and laughs in sport; that soul is simple, unaware; but since a joyful Maker gave it motion, it turns willingly to things that bring delight. At first it savors trivial goods; these would beguile the soul, and it runs after them, unless there's a guide or rein to rule its love. Therefore, one needed law to serve as curb; a ruler, too, was needed, one who could discern at least the tower of the true city.

The laws exist, but who applies them now? No one, the shepherd who precedes his flock can chew the cud but does not have cleft hooves; and thus the people, who can see their guide, snatch only at that good for which they feel some greed, would feed on that and seek no further. Misrule, you see, has caused the world to be malevolent; your nature is not corrupt, not prey to any fatal astral force. For Rome, which made the world good, used to have two suns; and they made visible two paths: the world's path and the pathway that is God's. One has eclipsed the other; now the sword has joined the shepherd's crook; the two together must of necessity result in evil, because so joined, one need not fear the other: and if you doubt me, watch the fruit and flower, for every plant is known by what it seeds.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 04:06:57 2021 No.17778628 >>17773370 Calm down nigger I copy this shit into a file for later. Obviouslt I can't discuss it now. This is in fact the primary flaw in /lit/ format but hey what can you do

Anonymous Sun Mar 14 04:16:31 2021 No.17778663

The only thing you need to read in preparation of Dante are the Aeneid*, Eclogue 4, and the Bible. If you want to make the divine comedy even better, read history books about Greece, Rome, the Medieval Era, the Maritime Republics, the Christian church, and Dante's own life. claiming you need to read [insert medieval author] is disingenuous. You should rather read ABOUT them.

* = i guess homer's epics would also be necessary for the divine comedy, but only by the extension that they are necessary for the aeneid

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 04:22:02 2021 No.17778679 >>17778622 That girl is clearly Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 04:35:53 2021 No.17778722 >>17778663 is it also worth to read vita nova?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 04:45:34 2021 No.17778748 >>17778663 Considering the amount of address paid to the Greek pantheon specifically, it's at least worth reading The Metamorphoses. You don't just discard half of the entities he encounters in Hell and Purgatory.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 05:28:53 2021 No.17778867 >>17777520 They don't suck, it's the blasphemy of the modern world that hates anything that has faith in it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 05:31:34 2021 No.17778875 >>17771349 Nothing

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 07:04:25 2021 No.17779258 >>17776199 You don't need to know anything about the bible, just a bit of history. Most editions of the Comedy will have enough context in the preface, author bio and notes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 07:14:16 2021 No.17779290 >>17776248 Dante's language is almost completely modern Italian, because Italian was basically made up in imitation of Dante with Manzoni's help, to give Italians a literary language that could unify them above the many local languages.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 07:20:52 2021 No.17779318 >>17776753 >Ouch kek

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 07:22:35 2021 No.17779324 >>17773631 obsessed

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 07:29:53 2021 No.17779352 >>17771687 >>17772695 read william langland

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 07:31:14 2021 No.17779358 >>17771349 reading the troubadours

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 07:55:06 2021 No.17779473 >>17771349 Dunno, he belongs in the 5th

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 09:22:01 2021 No.17779868 >>17779352 Is it easy to read? Or too ancient English?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 11:36:32 2021 No.17780660 Should I read Ariosto after Dante? Or is there any other epic poem in the middle that I should check out?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 11:37:43 2021 No.17780669 >>17780660 Read secretum and the decameron

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 11:38:54 2021 No.17780673 >>17771349 Faping to Beatrice

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 11:38:56 2021 No.17780674 >>17780669 But Decameron is not an epic porn

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 11:40:24 2021 No.17780685 >>17780674 ooops... *poem xD

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 11:45:09 2021 No.17780707 >>17772213 Homer was almost certainly translated into Latin much earlier (e.g. by Andronicus) but these translations don't survive. However, it's possible Dante had read one.

Anonymous Sun Mar 14 13:13:27 2021 No.17781154

He has the first of the moderns, indeed. No surprise then the great epic of modernity, Ezra Pound's Cantos, is a mirror of the Divine Comedy, a descent into Hell and an elevation to Paradise narrated in a cacophony of different partial but alegorical voices.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 13:26:04 2021 No.17781232 File: 115 KB, 660x666, 983D07DA-7DB1-4BA5-B378-E84B9A7A7946.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What was the Master & Margarita of the medieval world?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 14:23:49 2021 No.17781588 >>17781232 I'm confused by this question

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 14:31:57 2021 No.17781624 >>17781588 When I read the book it gave me a medieval feel. I know I’m shooting in the dark but I was hoping there’s a medieval book out there with a similar mood as M&M

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 14:33:44 2021 No.17781631 >>17772260 Since he didn't read Homer he probably only had a vague idea that there was an ancient military commander named Ulysses.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 14:40:50 2021 No.17781664 >>17780685 You were right the first time. The Decameron is epic porn.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 16:30:41 2021 No.17782341 >>17772193 reminder that your prophet is down in the Eighth Circle with all other fraudsters

Anonymous Sun Mar 14 17:01:46 2021 No.17782535
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I am convinced that the Comedy, especially the Paradiso, is a deeply divine work, and that Dane himself is worthy of sainthood for writing it.

I have even contacted the appropriate archdiocese in Italy to see about opening his cause for sainthood. Sadly they have not gotten back to me.

But Dante himself predicted that he would be recalled from exile by Florence, and that he would be a saint. Florence has recalled the exile against him, so that's half his prophecy come true. What if the other prophecy comes true too?

Anonymous Sun Mar 14 17:29:08 2021 No.17782720
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>>17782535
There's one thing about Dante that has always triggered me. If you write such a monstrous thing as the Comedy and you're super serious about it, you do not invent it. Or, in other words, if you make up something like that you do not write it like Dante wrote the Comedy. It can't be possible. Can you even imagine Dante coming up with that poem and then just pretending it was real? I repeat, it can't be possible. Dante did not invent. We are in the wrong if we keep seeing Dante as a modern, very imaginative writer.

I tried multiple times to explain this to a professor at uni, but I didn't have words for it. Also, I feared he could get mad and send me out of his office. Cuckdemia is still intoxicated by culture theory and simply can not accept the sanctity of a piece of art. It's the same with the Bible, they will never read it as the Word of God, they think it is necessary to "analyse" it and set it within a cultural and historical framework, as something contingent. I also tried to tell a female professor that the Bible should be read for what it is and she gave me a really weird look, partly confused and partly severe, and replied that the Bible should be read "with some brains". Fucking ass idiots. They insist on talking about Dante as "a Medieval man" and they don't even realize that he was Medieval exactly because he was a saint, a visionary, a mystic! Of course we should sanctify him, you don't make prophecies and write the Divine Comedy if you haven't traveled to the afterlife for real.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 17:42:23 2021 No.17782808 >>17781232 Piers Plowman?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 17:55:23 2021 No.17782888 >>17772129 This exists? Thanks anon!

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 17:57:49 2021 No.17782912 Someone should made a Medieval Chart

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 17:59:02 2021 No.17782923 >>17782720 Very interesting line of thought. What do you interpret the bible as? Symbolic or literal? There are many ways of reading sacred texts. This is why they were kept away from the general public.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 19:01:56 2021 No.17783349 >>17782923 I think it is symbolic but at the same time not made up. There's universal truth in symbols, and you can express them if the light comes inside you, which is exactly what happened to Dante (or at least I suspect so).

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