/sffg/ - Science fiction and Fantasy general

[Anonymous No.17766947]

Fantasy Edition
Previous Thread: >>17751175

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[Anonymous No.17767233]

Coldhands is the offspring of the Night Queen and the Lord Commander, yes? It would be the only thing that would make sense of his origin if he doesn't wind up turning out to be Benjen which probably won't be true.

[Anonymous No.17767245]

>>17766947
stop using anime as OP pics, it's disgusting and this is not a fucking anime thread. use real sff art fool

[Anonymous No.17767488]

>The story broke a few days ago, and is now all over the internet: I am developing a new series for HBO, a science fiction show based on ROADMARKS, a novel by the late great Roger Zelazny. And what do you know — the story is actually true.
What the fuck is this hack's problem?

[Anonymous No.17767514]

>>17767488
I bet he folds his pizza slices in half so the hot juicy grease funnels directly into his gullet. Then he dips the slice in thick, creamy ranch dressing before devouring the entire pie in one sitting. At the end, he belches pleasurably, and proceeds to stick his hard pink mast lustily into the nearest pile of spicy buffalo wings.

[Anonymous No.17767556]

What are some sword and sorcery stories other than Conan and Elric? Are there any decent modern examples too? I'm currently reading through those two but would like some more. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.17767568]

>>17767556
Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser

[Anonymous No.17767575]

>>17767556
eye of argon is a classic

[Anonymous No.17767594]

>>17766880
>>17766985
>>17767120
these covers are fine, get these

[Anonymous No.17767608]

>>17767514
What kind of savage makes a greasy pizza?

[Anonymous No.17767610]

>>17767594
do they exist for the second series?

>>17767608
non-burger detected

[Anonymous No.17767659]

>>17767610
If I order pizza and it shows up greasy, I send it back. That's fucking disgusting.

[Anonymous No.17767747]

>>17767610
yes. although the great ordeal and the unholy consult just have the original covers cropped inbetween the black bars. kinda lazy but its still consistent i guess

[Anonymous No.17767768]

>>17767747
>Among the greatest... a plot and subplot that is like the climactic movement of a symphony.
agree

[Anonymous No.17768340]

>>17767556
How do I in2 Conan

[Anonymous No.17768371]

>>17766985
i want to go back

[Anonymous No.17768420]

>>17766947
should i read a deepness in the sky? i liked a fire upon the deep but i'm always a bit suspicious of prequels in general
also, behead vtubers and their simpathizers

[Anonymous No.17768485]

>>17768340
uh, read the stories?

[Anonymous No.17768514]

>George mentioned writing A Dream of Spring in his new blog post

Dare I say is he nearly done with TWOW? I think we'll get some sort of announcement end of this month or next with a late summer release.

[Anonymous No.17768565]

>>17768485
Yeah but is there a good collection or something

[Anonymous No.17768579]

>>17768420
>behead vtubers and their simpathizers
Get with the times, you fucking faggot.

[Anonymous No.17768609]

>>17768565
The three volumes put out by Del Rey

[Anonymous No.17768634]

>>17768420
I'm reading it right now and I'm at about the halfway point. It's infinitely better than the first one. It doesn't have any of the pacing issues or dull chapters the first one suffered from. The connection to A Fire Upon the Deep is very loose. It takes place tens of thousands of years in the past and focuses on the Qeng Ho making first contact with intelligent alien life. If it stays as good as it has been for the full 800 pages, I can see why it's considered one of the SF greats by many.

[Anonymous No.17768790]

Saw this pop up on my amazon recommended list and am intrigued. Honestly I'm thinking of buying it just because the cover is neat. Anyone know if it's good?

[Anonymous No.17768805]

any good scifi/fantasy based around piracy?

[Anonymous No.17768850]

>>17766947
I'm about to start pic related. What am in for?

[Anonymous No.17768893]

>>17768850
Whores. Only women read Bakker and they're all mentally ill autists.

[Anonymous No.17768901]

>>17767747
"the slog of slogs"
-Anonymous

[Anonymous No.17768903]

>>17768850
Angst written by a teenager who read some Neitziche and completely missed the point.

[Anonymous No.17768909]

>>17768893
>making this post

[Anonymous No.17768976]

>>17768850
a prelude to the actual plot

[Anonymous No.17768979]

>The Men had bound him, pierced his flesh with nails, but their terror so overmatched their hatred, they were gentle, and so left no memory of their indignity. They shout and laugh. Papa… A walnut tree stands upon the rising pasture beyond them, great with age and solitude, dark with interior shadow. Please, Papa…

>Aisralu!

>A woman who has outlived her teeth scourges him with thistles. Her arms are frantic with hatred and heartbreak, her knobbed knuckles shake, but her eyes remain slack with incredulity… eyes that were once daring and mercurial, grown stagnant at the bottom of crinkled pockets. For the first time he realizes he has never understood Men, the way they toil against the yoke of dwindling years. The way they do not so much fail as are betrayed.

>The Horns rear golden, so high as to hook the woolen sky. The Host of the Nine Mansions groans.

>They raise him upon a pole, pile sheaves of bracken about his feet. He has wondered whether death would be beautiful. He has wondered how the end of memory would appear at memory’s end. He has wondered what it means to so outrun glory as to become blind to disgrace. It seems proper that these screeching animals show him.

[Anonymous No.17768985]

>>17768903
>Neitziche

[Anonymous No.17768993]

>>17768903
What was the point?

[Anonymous No.17768994]

>>17768979
Why is it that so much modern fantasy feels the need to resort to edgy cringelord garbage with ridiculously purple prose?

[Anonymous No.17769014]

>>17768993
That in a world without god it's up to people to create our own meaning and the best way to do that is through self improvement, and producing art and beauty. That in the absence of a caring god it's up to us to become it. Neitzsche wasn't a doomer, he was just an autist.

[Anonymous No.17769065]

>>17768850
nothing special, mostly worldbuilding
book two is where shit get sgood

[Anonymous No.17769081]

>>17768850
on third reread, realizing the prologue sums up the whole series basically— it’s masterfully done

[Anonymous No.17769143]

>>17768994
Name 5

[Anonymous No.17769172]

>>17769014
Okay, why would you think Bakker references Neitzsche if they apparently are so at odds?

[Anonymous No.17769175]

>>17769143
The one I was responding to, Three more here >>17767594, whatever the fuck that series by Brent Weeks would be called.

[Anonymous No.17769215]

>>17769081
I dont see it

[Anonymous No.17769234]

>>17769215
I meant leweth and the nonman

[Anonymous No.17769238]

What am i in for ?

[Anonymous No.17769246]

>>17767488
No one.

He just announced he is doing to do a new book of Duncan the tall before Dream of spring and after that a new book of the Targaryen family

[Anonymous No.17769295]

>>17769238
bags of rice and salt

[Anonymous No.17769387]

So has /sffg/ always been the Science Fiction and Baker general?

[Anonymous No.17769392]

>>17769387
No, it's just reddit shilling/potentially the author himself spamming.

[Anonymous No.17769428]

>>17769387
No, /sffg/ belongs to the Wolfepack

[Anonymous No.17769503]

>>17768634
Am I the only one who thought the A plot of Fire Upon the Deep was dogshit, and only continuing reading because of how cool the Tines were?
>>17768420
The books are set in the same universe but other than that, aren't really related. Each is a good stand-alone story that doesn't require you to read the other.

[Anonymous No.17769578]

>>17769503
to be honest, i liked the worldbuilding of AFUtD much more than the story. it was kind of cool, le scary evil AI hivemind chasing you across the galaxy into the deep dark spooky slow zone, but i was much more interested in the characters and the universe itself than i was in whatever they were fighting against

[Anonymous No.17769635]

>>17769175
>Brent weeks
>purple prose

[Anonymous No.17769665]

>>17769635
It's undeniably a cringelord edgefest though.

[Anonymous No.17769733]

I've seen people her discuss Old Man's War multiple times
But never this newer series
Is it any good?

[Anonymous No.17769768]

>>17769428
BTFO BAKKERFAGS, THE WOLFE BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWN

[Anonymous No.17769824]

>>17769733
Scalzi is a humongous faggot and I don't think anything he wrote after OMW has had anywhere near the same success

[Anonymous No.17769958]

>>17769733
>>/lit/?task=search2&search_text=interdependency&search_tripcode=sffg

[Anonymous No.17769994]

>>17769238
I'm actually reading it myself at the moment. Premise of "what if Black Plague wiped out 90% of European population?" is just that - a premise. Book then takes on a weird spiritual angle following reincarnating lives who meet up in bardo over the upcoming centuries as Muslim and Chinese player a much bigger role and lay claim to largely empty Europe. It's almost like a collection of vignettes held together with the spiritual element where "reoccurring" characters are part of jati aka group of souls who inevitable meet each other across multiple lives.

[Anonymous No.17770114]

>>17769994
I don't have your fancy cover, though.

[Anonymous No.17770414]

Today, Fanatic Purifiers, we take away your right to the stars. Today we take away your right to space. Today, with this Global Pacifier, from now on, the cradle of your species shall become also its prison, the single mercy left to you being whether or not your choices also lead to it becoming your grave.

We shall seal away your home planet and by extension your species, to affect three goals: to protect the lives of other species and our owns, to terrorize and deter others that would seek to emulate you and to inflict on you a punishment proportionate to the abominations, atrocities and crimes that you have levelled upon the universe - the punishment being the inevitable civil war your sealed society will collapse into.

Firstly, we seal you away to protect the lives of others and our own lives. Morality aside, we must seal you away for the sake of our own survival. Just as your species prospered on the skulls, husks and ashes of countless trillions, so too do our species prosper when left alone from your kind, free to live. Your species' rampage has left the galaxy a poorer, dirtier, more desolate place. Had it not been for your kind, we might've imagined a very different Milky Way, more wise, advanced, richer, learned, stronger than the ruins we have struggled to pyrrhic victory to. Therefore, we seal you away to create our own future.

Secondly, we seal you away to deter and put fear in the hearts of all those who would walk your path. As the first, in order to create a stronger, smarter, better galaxy, those who would set the galaxy on fire must be stayed in their footsteps - you will be that example.

Finally, we seal you away as punishment and as revenge. It is not our job to kill you - that will be for you to do to each other. Either you will fight each other to extinction over dwindling planetary resources - or if the galaxy deems you worthy, you will learn to live with other life rather than step on it.

Global Pacifier, you may fire when ready.

[Anonymous No.17770869]

>>17768609
Is that preferable over this tome?

[Anonymous No.17770955]

Minla's Flowers by Alastair Reynolds. One of his shorter pieces that really did leave an impression.

[Anonymous No.17770962]

>>17770869
Del Ray is release order rather than in-universe chronological. It makes more sense in release order.

[Anonymous No.17771010]

>>17770962
AKSHULLY the Del Rey collections are in written order; which is even better.
>>17770869
And yes they are vastly preferable since the Del Rey books have tons of extras and fantastic art to compliment the stories.

[Anonymous No.17771014]

>>17771010
>AKSHULLY
That is what he just said, dummy.

[Anonymous No.17771022]

>>17767556
The Kane books by Karl Edward Wanger (start with Nightwinds since it has the best stories)
Imaro by Charles Saunders (African S&S written in the 70s that isn't cringe)

[Anonymous No.17771036]

>>17771014
No it isn't, you fucking idiot. He said RELEASE ORDER aka publication order. The Del Rey books have the stories in WRITTEN ORDER; as in the actual order the stories were written. The Frost-Giant's Daughter for example is a Conan story that was never published when REH was alive yet it was the second Conan story he had ever written so it's the second story in the first Del Rey book.

[Anonymous No.17771044]

>>17767556
https://dmrbooks.com/
This site is extremely helpful for S&S newfags.

[Anonymous No.17771250]

>>17769994
not the guy you're answering to, but thanks for the info. how do you like it so far?

[Anonymous No.17771258]

>>17767233
>if he doesn't wind up turning out to be Benjen which probably won't be true.
anon...

[moorcockshiller No.17771298]

Enter...

[Anonymous No.17771783]

thoughts on this bad boy? i wonder what he have been taking while writing it

[Anonymous No.17771998]

>>17768790
As funny a page-turner as Holt has ever written. The blacksmithing autistry is there, so are some not overly annoying identity politics. Try to read first 50 pages or so and make up your own mind.

[Anonymous No.17772162]

>>17771298
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fPl4ZVkSfc
>I'M LIIIIVIIIING ON BORROOOWED TIIIMEE

[Anonymous No.17772650]

>>17767594
WHY THE FUCK WON'T THEY RELEASE THESE TYPE OF COVERS FOR ASPECT-EMPEROR
FUUUUUUUUUUCK.

[Anonymous No.17772672]

>>17768371
this is one of the best cover.

[Anonymous No.17772769]

>darkness opening line

MWOAH, had me looked straight away.

[Anonymous No.17772795]

>>17770414
This is pretty nice, though I feel that you were sort of repeating yourself by having the 3 reasons first stated and THEN going in depth about them. It somehow makes them have less weight imo. I would suggest either removing the paragraph that gives all 3 reasons, or combining everything into one big paragraph and having a shortened explanation of each reason after they were stated.

>We defeated the prikiki'ti
>several empires that were constantly at odds banded together to fight them
>we pushed them back to their home planet and locked them inside.
>thankZarqlan.mp3
>the galaxy is safe again
>mfw there's reports of some weird wormhole opening up nearby, in our territory
>mfw they call themselves "unbidden"
>mfw they say that we look tasty

[Anonymous No.17772816]

Let me sum up this book:

Ahem

War, battle, fight, fight, battle, soldier, military, war, battle, fighty-fight fightfight.

This entire book is just pre-fight, fighting, post-fight, pre-fight, fighting, post-fight. And I guess they shoves in some "politics" in there too. But in reality, all of the politics are just talks about who gets to fight where and for what reason.

If that's your thing, then you'll probably love this book, because Joe Abercrombie is a great writer. He's way better with words than fucking Sandershit. The audiobook was 23 hours long, but it didn't feel long at all, because the scenarios just flowed one into the other with perfect highs and lows. Great dramatic tension throughout. Explains without over explaining. Tosses in some surprises here and there that catch you off guard.

But ultimately, it's just all about a bunch of jerk offs fighting each other. I do have to say that the fight scenes are well written though. Like you can follow the action, and Abercombie does a good job at filtering the action through the point of view character. So it's like you're in their shoes. And he conveys their thoughts and feelings, so you understand their mental state while they're in the fight. All that stuff is well and good.

But it's still 23 hours of battles and military shit. So I'm left feeling rather disappointed. I have to be honest. It was good but insufficient for my tastes.

To the anon who said this was better than Best Served Cold: You must love fighting, huh? And to the anon who said he didn't care for northern politics: What the hell do you mean? The politics were the only respite from all the fighting. Without those segments, then book would be wall to wall battles.

I'm feeling a little less enthused about going into the next book. But since I have nothing else to read, I guess I'll just trudge forth into Red Country. Unless someone can recommend an alternative for me?

[Anonymous No.17772876]

>>17768979
Is this Bakker? This is awful lmao
>ugly try-hard purple prose
>ultra gritty and edgy
>"He has wondered how the end of memory would appear at memory’s end."
what does that even mean

>

[Anonymous No.17772902]

>>17771783

My favourite book of his, along with Ubik and Valis.
Funny, paranoid and ultimately heartbreaking.

[Anonymous No.17773007]

>>17772816
You've already read The Black Company, I trust?

[Anonymous No.17773033]

no?

[Anonymous No.17773065]

>>17773033
That Proto-Sci fi is very lacking, even if we take only English native books. No Invisible Man, or War of the Worlds, or traveling to Moon in a cannon, or the book about a formula that turned insects giant, or Princess of Mars?

[Anonymous No.17773070]

>>17773033
>no watts

[Anonymous No.17773146]

>>17773007
No. Is that another book where a bunch of old fighters go around getting into fights? Because if so, I have to say I'm pretty tired of that right about now. I would like something more stimulating.

[Anonymous No.17773234]

So why is Player Piano by Vonnegut out of print in the UK?

[Anonymous No.17773424]

>>17772876
makes sense in context

[Anonymous No.17773437]

>>17773234
rhymes with news

[Anonymous No.17773444]

>>17772876
it’s written from the perspective of a 5000 year old not-elf with advanced dementia conflating all the most intense moments of his life together

[Anonymous No.17773448]

>>17773146
maybe read something that isn't genre fiction?

[Anonymous No.17773478]

>>17773448
But I've read plenty of "genre fiction" that is a lot more than fighting. Maybe you should open yourself up to more material?

[Anonymous No.17773498]

>>17773448
Yeah he should read something literary about something completely different like Blood Meridian

[Anonymous No.17773605]

>>17773498
what is the purpose of this post?

[Anonymous No.17773611]

>>17769733
Its trash.

[Anonymous No.17773729]

>>17773437

Is that REALLY the reason?

[Anonymous No.17773813]

>reading moby dick feels more like fantasy than reading fantasy books published in 2020
very nice job, authors

[Anonymous No.17773846]

>Trannysupporter "philosophy lecturer" Sadler is doing a stream on Bakker now
I hope you are glad, /sffg/

[Anonymous No.17773864]

>>17772816

[Anonymous No.17773917]

No one could stop me so I ordered the december 1972 world of if featuring "Wizard of Anharitte". I did it for the 70's boobies in the picture. I paid like 13 euros for it.

[Anonymous No.17773920]

>>17773729
idk have a look at the synopsis for the book and think about it

[GODCOCK No.17773935]

To the faggot that recommended 'TUC', that is, the fourth in some shitty wh40k series (they nearly all are, can't say all just bc i've yet to try them all, have to give my braincell time to recover from shit cringe); Fuck you.
I even tried some from the first.
Fuck me, this is boring.
meat madness.
This shit is so tame, also it's boring as flying, flipping fuck.
fuck you for wasting my time, thought thank you for enlarging my blacklist

The rec was supposed to be for gore/horrror where bad guys/nonhumans win.

[Anonymous No.17773945]

>>17773846
post link please

[Anonymous No.17773950]

>>17773935
unbelievably filtered
>also
>reading only the la

[Anonymous No.17773953]

>Yeah. Harlan Ellison's "I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream" scared me catatonic. It made me curl into a fetal position and question life itself.

kek, reddit moment

[Anonymous No.17773962]

>>17773935
unbelievably filtered
>also
>reading only the last book of a seven part series
why would you do this to yourself

[Anonymous No.17773966]

>>17773935
quite possibly one of the stupidest posts I've ever read.

[Anonymous No.17773980]

>>17773917
Enjoy. Does it have the full novel? If not, you can read in on archive.org

[Anonymous No.17773984]

>>17773935
>asks for recs about books where the bad guys win
>either extremely retarded and can't figure out it's the last book of a 7 book series or just decided to go into the last book with no context
>pretenious use of a semicolon and esl use of language
>thinks it has something to do with 40k or is making a really bad and unclear point.

filtered

and the bad guys and aliens do show up if you read more of the book

[Anonymous No.17774008]

>>17773980
It has not arrived yet. Judging from the page count I'd say it has the full novel.

[Anonymous No.17774020]

>>17773945
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aspwxl6Cyzw
jsut ended

[Anonymous No.17774127]

>>17773605
To call you a retard basically

[Anonymous No.17774151]

>>17774127
>heh, you think genre fiction usually has a plot that involves and focuses on war or violence while this is less common in literature?

>bet you've never heard of this one particular book where that ISN'T the case, btfo..

Shit book anyway, incel's first book.

[Anonymous No.17774159]

Buy his books and audiobooks.

[Anonymous No.17774180]

>>17774159
he seems like such a redditor from his essays

[Anonymous No.17774220]

>>17773033
>avant-garde makes 0 sense
>new millenium is dogshit normie things except for Ishiguro
>muh Aniara
>golden age anglo overload and Lem but no Strugatsky
>(((dystopias)))
>muh Pynchon is scifi
>KSR's worst
It amazes me just how bad people are at reading

[Anonymous No.17774305]

>>17773033
>no frankenstein in protoscifi

ngmi

[Anonymous No.17774336]

>>17774151
If you think I think Blood Meridian is obscure that says all I need to know about you

[Anonymous No.17774353]

>>17774305
It is quite literally the first thing on the chart

[Anonymous No.17774373]

>>17774336
where did I say it was obscure? It was you that was implying it, your original comment was so fucking dumb, fuck you im pissed off now.

my point was if you want to avoid endless fighting maybe read real literature, UM WHAT ABOUT THIS ONE BOOK THAT'S LITERATURE AND HAS FIGHTING is a gay and retarded comment.

[Anonymous No.17774381]

>>17774353
no that's frankenstein OR the modern promethus.

book with alternative title means author is a pseud desu

[Anonymous No.17774446]

>>17774373
You're embarrassing yourself

[Anonymous No.17774466]

>>17774008
Cool. It's been a few years, but I did go through a lot of those mags. I must admit, the reason I came to read that story was the cover art. I enjoyed it a lot. It's from the same author as Patterns of Chaos which is also a very fun read.

[Anonymous No.17774468]

>>17774180
What did he do?
He sounds like a proper high IQ NORF FC bloke from what I have heard. I go to the same uni he went to (manchester) but for different subjects.

[Anonymous No.17774506]

>just got into reading this year after getting a kindle
>have read 3 books so far
>already downloaded over 60 books and still looking for more

[Anonymous No.17774508]

What's the reading order of the Solar Cycle by Gene Wolfe?

[Anonymous No.17774529]

Which are the /sffg/ approved contemporary authors besides bakker?

[Anonymous No.17774572]

>>17774159
Not only would I not give this douche poser a single penny, I wouldn't give him twenty seconds of my time to pirate his gum-sucking schlock.

[Anonymous No.17774591]

Jesus Fucking H Christ. First time I've come back here in weeks and weeks, and you're still all shilling fucking Bakker. I miss the Sarah J Fatass-shill days.

[Anonymous No.17774745]

>>17774591
/sffg/ is unironically the worst place on the interjew to discuss fantasy or sci-fi.

[Anonymous No.17774782]

>>17774529
I'd say Watts, Bakker's depressed sci-fi counterpart.

[Anonymous No.17774812]

>>17774782
>Bakker's depressed counterpart
That's just called suicidal, anon

[Anonymous No.17774840]

>>17774591

[Anonymous No.17774876]

>>17774591
>>17774840
do you have that image he used to post all the time of the entire series? fuck, I miss the little fag so much.

[Anonymous No.17774900]

>>17774840
Pretty cute desu

[Anonymous No.17774917]

I have just finished the Unholy Consult.... my mind is fucked but I need clarification on things - spoilers .

>Ajokli
Kellhus is Ajokli? Did this happen when he went to hell to get the decapitants? How long has Ajokli controlled Kellhus??? Did he lose the mark because his power stemmed from being a living god?

>The No God
This completely went past me and I may need to re read - why did they need Kellhus soul to reanimate it.

>140000
This was mentioned a few books ago and again here - if I’m right the Ichiroi believed culling humanity to that many living people would bring salvation...why???

>Inverse fire
The inverse fire essentially allows you to experience hell and this is used to radicalise those that view it to commit atrocities in order to accumulate so much damnation that they....?

>the salting
So Kellhus is salted but where is his soul?

[Anonymous No.17774944]

>>17774876

[Anonymous No.17775046]

Hi /lit. Currently reading Dune series again. Some of the Butlerian Jihad stuff is just like some scenes from the Matrix, which leaves me wondering... what book series had the first war between Humans and the machines they created?

[Anonymous No.17775303]

>>17773033
NO ARTHUR C CLARKE. NAZI CONFIRMED

[Anonymous No.17775380]

>>17774917
Gods can possess people, remember?

Anasurimbor prophecy.

To break the circuit of souls that is apparently necessary for the Outside to function or at least to connect it to the Inside.

The Inverse Fire shows the damned that they are doomed unless they can close the connection to the Outside. Otherwise it's not safe to die. The Inchoroi were made to be sinful so that they'd have no choice but to try to close the world which is what the progenitors made them for.

We just don't know.

[Anonymous No.17775451]

>>17774917
>Kellhus is salted but where is his soul?
in one of the decapitants probably.

[Anonymous No.17775518]

>>17774508
New Sun -> Urth -> New Sun -> Urth -> New Sun -> Long Sun -> Short Sun

[Anonymous No.17775550]

Could you recommend me a book or a series similar to Expanse? You know, something realistic (to some degree)+aliens. I really liked that series till the fifth book, but then it turned into some shitty family drama and neglected plot points from previous books.

[Anonymous No.17775551]

>>17774840

[Anonymous No.17775661]

Would you have liked to have seen a book about a ship-crew's adventures on exploring the unsunken remnants of Beleriand; the ruins and creatures that could have still dwelled there?.

[Anonymous No.17775975]

>>17774917
>where is his soul
Because you fear not damnation. Because there is a head on a pole behind you.

[Anonymous No.17776177]

>>17774917
12 tribes, 12,000 each. It's biblical.

[Anonymous No.17776291]

>>17775550
Aristillus

[Anonymous No.17776408]

>>17774220
>Mars Trilogy is KSRs worst

Holy shit, based retard!

[Anonymous No.17776427]

is The expanse good? I've just realized the whole series has been translated to my language

[Anonymous No.17776507]

>>17770869
Yes, that book is a total lie. Only has 9 stories, not complete at all

[Anonymous No.17776516]

>>17776427

I'm enjoying the first book a lot at the moment. It's pretty engaging with okay worldbuilding and good mystery elements here and there. If you don't like stuff like ASOIAF you probably won't like the Expanse since the narration and POV switch remind me a lot of Martin's prose

[Anonymous No.17776687]

>>17772902
nice, Ubik and Valis are next ones on my list.

[Anonymous No.17776716]

>>17771783
>a scanner darkly
Does this title make more sense for a native English speaker? Or is it a contextual thing, like there is a title drop in the book as part of a complete sentence that makes it appear less random?

[Anonymous No.17776772]

>>17776716
It's a play on a famous biblical phrase.

>When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

>For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

[Anonymous No.17776822]

>>17776772
I see. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.17776897]

How is your novel comming along?

I'm wasting my time with dumbass memes.

[Anonymous No.17777021]

Just finished Judging Eye
The last chapter was fucking incoherent, what was that bullshit that happened with Cleric?

[Anonymous No.17777022]

>>17776897
Are there any utopian scifi novel where genetherapy or body sculpting technology have erased ugliness?

[Anonymous No.17777085]

black sneed

>>17777022
dunno

>>17777021
qiri

[Anonymous No.17777131]

>>17777021
Because it was a topos, a wraith from the Outside was able to posses him

[Anonymous No.17777309]

>download a whole bunch of xianxia
>so far Stellar Transformation is boring compared to Coiling Dragon/Desolate Era
>Godsfall Chronicles is okay but not what I was expecting so far and hope it picks up soon

[Anonymous No.17777335]

>>17769824
>>17769958
>>17773611
>Scalzi is a humongous faggot
Guess that's why he's among the few males that still gets Hugos, lmao what a shitshow

[Anonymous No.17777345]

>>17777022
The Culture series, and Peter F Hamilton's books.

[Anonymous No.17777479]

>>17777022
Neal Asher's Polity series

[Anonymous No.17777580]

>>17773033
Ender’s game??

[Anonymous No.17777711]

>>17777309
Read Reverend Insanity

[Anonymous No.17777744]

>libgen.is is down

[Anonymous No.17777827]

What's so good about Bakker's prose? Why are people so obsessed with it?

[Anonymous No.17777855]

>>17777309
Read Against the Gods, the plot is pretty shit but the mc is extremely charming and the fight scenes are incredibly well written and hype.
Also consider reading Renegade Immortal, the fight scenes are pretty boring but it's absolutely fascinating to watch an innocent boy turn into a sociopath over time as he climbs his way to immortality.

[Anonymous No.17777876]

>>17777827
who's obsessed?

[Anonymous No.17777907]

>>17777876
Most critics gush about how his prose is so elegant, and poetic; I've also seen people here singing praises for his prose and how he beautifully waves pictures into your mind as you read

[Anonγmous No.17777927]

I just want a book where the protagonist is a cute, genki teenage girl.

[Anonymous No.17777930]

>>17777907
read and find out

[Anonymous No.17777962]

Started reading Forgotten Realms by R.A. Salvatore.
Was expecting a novel about badass dark elf, but all I get is some emotional bullshit like 'killing is bad, drows are bad, yada yada'. Should I keep reading or the whole series is about this woke cultural pessimism and it's better to not waste my time on it?

[Anonymous No.17777975]

>>17777711
not into villainy
>>17777855
i have it downloaded actually (against the gods)

[Anonymous No.17778016]

>>17777975
ATG is shit. 100% cliche garbage and MC is often dying while his family and friends suffer. Harem is garbage. When MC finally left the planet, the novel turned into absolute illogical and annoying dogshit.

[Anonymous No.17778023]

>>17777927
Iron Dragon's Daughter

[Anonymous No.17778030]

>>17777962
You're reading an origin story for one of the big characters. Try something more general like Dragonlance Chronicles or Cleric Quintet. Then again

>D&D fiction
You have only yourself to blame.

[Anonymous No.17778040]

>>17777744
I've switched to z-library.

[Anonymous No.17778056]

>>17777907
What? It's fine. Has a mysterious feel to it. But it's nothing extravagant or anything.

He latctches on to a few words or turns of phrase for a while but it's OK. It's the typos in AE that get me.

[Anonymous No.17778063]

>>17778016
All xianxia novels go to shit post once the protaginist leaves their home planet; that doesn't change thr fact that AtG has over 3-400 solid chapters before it goes to shit
The Journey > The destination

[Anonymous No.17778067]

>>17777744
there's some domain fuckery going on

[Anonymous No.17778112]

is bakker the new sanderson? who is this guy and why is he talked about in every thread.

[Anonymous No.17778204]

>>17778030
I don't mind a huge novel that revolves around one specific MC. Though I fear that D&D's influence. All I want is a decent reading about elves. Maybe I should pick something else, thanks.

[Anonymous No.17778249]

>>17778112
Hes the god king of GRI

[Anonymous No.17778276]

>>17769238
>>17769994
Is either of you on Good Reads? Because one guy from the group is reading this.

[Anonymous No.17778284]

>>17767488
>Ha ha GoT fans I'm fucking off again neener neener neener

I want a nuclear war and I want it now.

[Anonymous No.17778357]

>>17778112
A meme

[Anonymous No.17778366]

>>17777962
The Dark Elf Trilogy is the inspiring story of a beta male breaking free of his dystopian gynocentric society and learning compassion from white people. Could absolutely never be written today.

[Anonymous No.17778431]

>>17777345
>>17777479
I wasn't actually serious in asking but thanks. I am slightly surprised there are utopian stories with this exact feature, though.

[Anonymous No.17778449]

>>17777309
I quite enjoyed Martial World, it was pretty damned crisp and polished and felt like the author cared more about both world-building and characters other than his self-insert protagonist than any other xianxia I tried. Didn't finish it though because autism made me put it on hold before the MC even left his home world. The translation was also pretty decent.

[Anonymous No.17778525]

>>17773033

Here is another precursor of sci-fi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Antonio_de_Rivas

>The full title of Rivas's 11-folio booklet is translated in English as Syzygies and Lunar Quadratures Aligned to the Meridian of Mérida of the Yucatán by an Anctitone or Inhabitant of the Moon, and Addressed to the Scholar Don Ambrosio de Echevarria, Reciter of Funeral Kyries in the Parish of Jesus of Said City, and Presently Teacher of Logarithm in the Town of Mama of the Yucatán Peninsula, in the Year of the Lord 1775.

[Anonymous No.17778555]

>>17773033
>No Hyperboloid of Engineer Garin

[Anonymous No.17778672]

>>17777876
The same three people who keep shilling him here

[Anonymous No.17778786]

>“The next time you come before me, you will kneel.

[Anonymous No.17778898]

>>17772816
The Black Company is indeed a good alternative. Cook is a much better writer than Abercrombie, and battles are rarely described.

The Builders by Daniel Polansky might also be a good fit.

[Anonymous No.17778968]

>>17778786
Did that ever happen? I really wanted Akka to deepthroat Kellhus

[Anonymous No.17779335]

>>17774917
also on a related topic, one anasurimbor carried a nonman rape baby to term before the expulsion of nonmen from kuniuri which is from where the longevity of the anasurimbor comes, shouldnt the nonmen have gone about collecting more of such women to create a new mixed society, would have been better than them moaning and bitching for centuries.

[Anonymous No.17779545]

>>17778968
yes when they meet up outside golgotterath and kellhus tells him to tend to his women

>>17779335
A, they were crazy, B that was a 1 in a million thing, like some animals with different numbers of chromosomes can crossbreed, also these are usually sterile

[Anonymous No.17779625]

>>17779545
this plot is the central theme to the nonmen existence, no future for their race, which is why i find it hard believe that the industrial-scale rape in a shithole like earwa by the nonmen is pretty much non-existent; the exception being the animal-like emwama. There are some instances of cunuroi-halaroi admixture, such as the daughter born to a female cunuroi in viri, and the one of king of siol, the one who fucked the nonmen over with his inoculation drive, with a much-cherished concubine seeing as she carried his seed to term, twice, though it was another matter that it was stillborn both times.

[Anonymous No.17779716]

>>17779625
Well they are crazy, and having one non crazy child won't make them non crazy, also maybe the male nonmen are infertile after being inoculated?

[Anonymous No.17779721]

>>17778431
>culture series
>Utopian
That anon is fucking with you mate.

[Anonymous No.17779738]

>>17779721
bugmen think its a utopia

[Anonymous No.17779977]

>>17777022
Not utopian, but the Vorkosigan Saga incorporates some of that. A female soldier's face is horribly burned, but then reconstructed to be more beautiful than it use to be.
And a race of noblewoman were gene manipulated to be so beautiful that they can't be looked upon, because their faces impair the mental state of anyone who looks at them. Like some kind of passive hypnosis. So when they leave their homes, they do so while sitting in these hi-tech protective floating bubble chairs, where you can only see the silhouettes of their body and incredibly long hair.

The book is good.

[Anonymous No.17780017]

>>17778898
The Builders sounds like another book where old men gripe about war and their past.

Let me clarify what I mean about "alternative". I don't mean "something that is similar but better". I mean, something that it different. Something that can cleanse the palate of the previous thing.

[Anonymous No.17780111]

>>17776897
>that posture
it hurts only watching

[Anonymous No.17780121]

>>17778366
>compassion
>white people
pick one

[Anonymous No.17780462]

>Once again considering re-reading something I've already read purely because I can't find anything new to read

[Anonymous No.17780488]

>>17774944
This is actually reassuring, since it shows anyone can get published (if they want to stoop low and learn the tricks of YA schlock). Just write some lowest common denominator shit then market like hell.

[Anonymous No.17780630]

>>17780462
rereading is based

[Anonymous No.17780651]

>>17780462
Not really /sffg/, but I just recently finished up Musashi and it was pretty good.
It is a little YA, but still a fun easy read.
Give it a go.

[Anonymous No.17780659]

>>17780651
I read that years ago.

[Anonymous No.17780701]

>>17780659
Not sure what to recommend to you then, babes.
Here is a bunch of good shit on my shelf;
>Lonesome Dove
>Pillars of the Earth
>Dune
>Notre-Dame de Paris

[Anonymous No.17780759]

>>17780488
YA isn't really low. Maybe YA is, but middle grade is based. Get kids to read and make money without having to write grimderp bullshit.

[Anonymous No.17781365]

>>17777711
neck yourself

[Anonymous No.17781377]

>>17778040
that was down a couple days ago as well

[Anonymous No.17781390]

>>17780488
Magna Cum Laudly is now back at number one on best seller lists with her newest Court of Something and Something Else book too....

[Anonymous No.17781433]

>>17781390

[Anonymous No.17781486]

>>17777345
peter f hamilton is hilarious its basically all neo-liberalism in space (and it works okay for some reason) and royalist bootlicking. still fun reads though

[Anonymous No.17781514]

Why is there such a divide between the "best prose writers in fantasy" and "the best prose writers in literary fiction"? Why is it that the best of the literary writers are so far ahead of the best of the genre fiction writers? Is it because they practiced more? Is it because they were just more naturally gifted than the writers who gravitated towards genre fiction? Why are Joyce and Faulkner so much better than pretty much anybody who has ever written genre fiction? I don't drop any names because there are many fantasy writers who are considered to be at the forefront; the names that come up the most are Gene Wolfe and Mervin Peake, among other names like Rothfuss, Le Guin, McKillip, Vance, Zelazny, Leiber, Howard... the list goes on and on and on. My main point is, why? Why are literary fiction writers so much better (or are considered better) than genre fiction writers?

[Anonymous No.17781533]

I really like the artwork in Magic the Gathering and the tertiary lore I've encountered osmotically seems interesting. Are there MTG novels that are similarly evocative and not generic trash?

[Anonymous No.17781568]

>>17781514
>Best writers in fantasy
That's not a high bar to clear.

[Anonymous No.17781599]

>>17781514
Because literary *fiction* writers describe real events they know through artistic lens, while genre fiction is fictional.
.

[Anonymous No.17781602]

>>17781433
hot

[Anonymous No.17781611]

>"Please!" Bakker begged, unable to contain himself, a brown foot dangling in front his nose while he crouched on all fours before her. He was chained to the wall of his cuckshed, a collar around his neck and his swollen and curved dick painfully caged in a contraption of steel.
>"Lick it slave!" Esmenet said, shoving a toe in his mouth. He complied eagerly, driven mad by the sight of her naked feet and thighs. A sranc tied in a similar fashion next to him sniggered, lazily stroking his obscenely big and distended member, and he couldn't help but wonder resentfully why his own small and pitiful prick was imprisoned. It doesn't threaten anyone, he thought idly while slobbering on Esmenet's toes.
>Sensing perhaps his distraction, she kicked him in the face and rose up, towering above him.
>"Enough! You need to be punished!"
His excitement quickly vanished when the Aspect-Author realized she wasn't going to release his manhood from the cage; instead, she fastened a beautifully detailed phallic object around her belt, lacquered wood fitted with gleaming iron studs and sculpted in the shape of the No-God. Esmenet yanked on the chain of the sranc.
>"Prepare him slave! I want him hard as a pillar!"
>Terrified, he obliged by awkwardly fitting the enormous cock in his mouth, the curved tip poking the inside of his right cheek. He was so intent on pleasing the beast that he barely noticed the Whore of Sumna coming up behind him until she slid the No-God phallus in, hitting his pleasure gland at once. The Aspect-Author came immediately, his tiny dick covered in fluid and shivering in its cage like a moribund bird. >She did not deign to penetrate him again.
>"You're pathetic." Esmenet said, spitting on him as he convulsed on the floor from the aftermath of his orgasm.
>"You will never touch anything with your dick again slave, but you can watch this mindless creature fuck me instead."
>And as she was being ravaged by the sranc, her shouts of ecstasy echoing in his ears, her lower stomach bulging up with its cock in a way that he could have never achieved, Bakker cried. He cried tears of pure pleasure, realizing that he had finally discovered his calling as a cuckold.

[Anonymous No.17781621]

>>17781514
Fart huffing mostly. Writing literary fiction lends itself to a more mature perception from people, thats all. The subject matter/ideas might be more transcendent, but I've never noticed one being superior to the other in terms of "wot wurds R used".

[Anonymous No.17781822]

>>17772816
>Best Served Cold
Most seem to think it is better than Best Served Cold in my experince.
I loved Best Served Cold though, love how when Monza starts having second thoughts about her quest for revenge the events and people she's set in motion make its completion inevitable.

[Anonymous No.17781827]

>>17774159
No
I will get them from the library though.

[Anonymous No.17781840]

>>17781514
>Why is there such a divide between the "best prose writers in fantasy" and "the best prose writers in literary fiction"?
Because when literary authors do genre fiction they will shout and scream to anyone who will listen that they are not actually doing genre fiction.

[Anonymous No.17781949]

>>17775661
Sort of like Wind Waker? Yeah, I guess. That'd be cool.

[Anonymous No.17782078]

Fuck. E William Brown

[Anonymous No.17782092]

>bought all four of The Aspect-Emperor books at the same time
>they're out of order in my kindle library
>finished TJE and accidentally opened TGO instead of WLW without realizing it
>spoiled myself on Maithanet's death

[Anonymous No.17782201]

>>17781433
>woman mc
>in fantasy romance
if i wanted bout of getting dicked i'd watch homo porn instead of this faggy shit

[Anonymous No.17782223]

>>17774745
what else is there
i tried some discords and they all turned out to be dead
reddit is like mega concentration of thin skinned people that think lbgt is good thing to add for fantasy books and that any racism is bad! even fictional, even if it makes sense, like fantasy wars between races and all that... How can you take those people seriously? I did entertain listening to them, but pointing these things are sure way to get you banned in places like reddit fantasy subreddit

[Anonymous No.17782375]

>>17768634
I remember A Deepness in the Sky as interminably long, most of it dull and with very little payoff. The spiders were basically eight legged humans.

[Anonymous No.17782385]

>>17768805
>scifi/fantasy based around piracy?
"Chase the Morning" by Michael Scott Rohan is a pretty good fantasy novel, explicitly based around piracy. A fun read.

[Anonymous No.17782438]

>>17776427
>is The expanse good?
I thought it was dog shit, at least the first three or four books, I can barely remember them. The authors used the mysterious alien origin of the "protomolecule" as an excuse for one asspull after another - they did whatever they felt liek doing. Reactionless drives, supercomputers, starship factories on Venus, zombies, monsters ... dont ask how that is possible, the protomolecule did it all! Dont think about how it was so dumb that it didnt even manage to land on earth when it came intot our solar system but landed on some Jupiter or Saturn moon. Our it totally makes sense because we say so!

[Anonymous No.17782463]

>>17782438
Filtered, stick to Sanderson and anime fanfics.

[Anonymous No.17782468]

>>17782223
"waaa I can't be racist around the redditors"

[Anonymous No.17782492]

>>17782463
I wish I didnt have a brain, then I could enjoy such books just like you can. Your probably liked the Prometheus movie too.

[Anonymous No.17782557]

>>17776427
Not really. It tries to be a conflict between *realistic space factions* then devolves into an attempt at space horror.

[Anonymous No.17782701]

>>17782468
for person interested in reading u do very little of it

[Anonymous No.17782711]

>>17782701
Did you have a stroke or are you just retarded?

[Anonymous No.17782878]

>>17782701
lol what i've just read 4k pages of enthonationalist sci fi in the past 2 weeks, but im not bitching about lack of safe spaces

[Anonymous No.17782946]

>>17781611
Keep this stuff to yourself Bakka.

[Anonymous No.17782978]

I realize this isn't the best place to ask this question, but what are some good forums for discussing books? /r/books on reddit is full of circlejerking about YA novels and sometimes literal children's books and they ban any talk of piracy. Meanwhile this thread is really the bottom barrel for literary discussion, mostly just memes about GRRM or complaining about the sex or race of the author.
Isn't there any middle ground where free speech is allowed but discussion is intelligent?

[Anonymous No.17782994]

>>17777022
John Varley's 8 Worlds Series, Steel Beach or Golden Globe in particular. Iain M Banks Culture touches on this but it's not a major theme.

[Anonymous No.17783136]

Any sci-fi books where another Earth is discovered somewhere else in the universe and it is an exact copy of our Earth?

[Anonymous No.17783162]

>>17782978
The people who could provide intelligent discussion wouldn't be doing so. They have better things to do.

[Anonymous No.17783174]

>>17782978
This threads used to be it, but the rebbit tourists took up shop and shit this place to high hell.

[Anonymous No.17783183]

>>17783174
bullshit, this thread has always been garbage

[Anonymous No.17783207]

>>17783183
Thankfully they rose to new heights of literary quality thanks to regular posting from the Discord Bakker ladies and gents.

[Anonymous No.17783224]

>>17783183
You sound like a redshitor who is trying to pretend like this place was always this bad, and it's business as usual.

Yes there was shitposting, but there used to be actual discussion in the general too, newfag. Somewhere in 2020, this place fell to discordfags and rebbitor refugess like yourself, turned abysmal and hasn't recovered. Now there is no discussion period, all it is, is just Cosmere shitposters and head on a pole behind you shitposters, fully shitting it up.

[Anonymous No.17783243]

>>17783207
this

[Anonymous No.17783254]

>>17783207
this, bakkerposting is the salvation of this general

[Anonymous No.17783264]

>>17782978
Organize a book club on /r/books or whatever and filter out the obvious retards, then just discuss things on discord.

[Anonymous No.17783317]

I'm reading through Conan and I just have to say that it's amazing. I've read through the first story, The Phoenix and the Sword, and that was pretty solid. The start of the Frost Giant's daughter is great too, the prose is great. He uses a lot of imagery, is it too much imagery? Pretty much every other lines is imagery or a comparison.

[Anonymous No.17783467]

>>17781514
The distinction between genres and genre/lit is highly arbitrary. Nowadays Lewis Caroll is regarded as proto-fantasy, but if he was published now it would almost certainly be called magical realism or some other bullshit

[Anonymous No.17783492]

>>17783467
Guess it depends if you believe context should matter or not with these things

[Anonymous No.17783506]

>>17783317
Howard's prose is fun at first but it gets tiresome pretty quickly. Here's a 'fun' drinking game, take a shot every time Conan is compared to an animal.

[Anonymous No.17783537]

>>17783467
I understand what you mean, but I also understand why they do it: it's to avoid shit like Bakker's drivel and fetish torture porn calling itself literature. Most would agree that authors like Wolfe and Peake aren't on the same level as the aforementioned subhuman.

[Anonymous No.17783590]

Bakker
Wolfe
Sanderson
my 3 favorite authors

[Anonymous No.17783618]

>>17783537
>drivel
dimwit spotted

[Anonymous No.17783750]

Has anyone incorporated Sikh themes into a scifi or fantasy work?

[Anonymous No.17783774]

Is this good?

[Anonymous No.17783825]

>>17783207
TRUTH SHINES

[Anonymous No.17783969]

>>17780488
>This is actually reassuring, since it shows anyone can get published (if they want to stoop low and learn the tricks of YA schlock).
The inexplicable success of mediocre by the numbers writers like Sanderson already proved this.

[Anonymous No.17784056]

>>17782978
There's absolutely no way to have lengthy intelligent discussion online without heavy moderation, especially these days. With the mass proliferation of instant communication technology, every fucking idiot has access to the internet and will derail discussion with their idiocy and (often willfully proud) ignorance. And then there's all the little attention seeking (man)children out there that will just interfere with it just for teh lulz, with concern trolling, whataboutisms etc.
You need moderation to make sure discussion remains focused and in good faith.

[Anonymous No.17784096]

>>17784056
You should post this there
>>>r/brandonsanderson
I'm sure they will appreciate your precious insights, besides you'll be among like-minded people. You know what, just go ahead and stay there, you have my blessings.

[Anonymous No.17784108]

The problem with Gene Wolfe is that he is almost too clever for his own good, while at the same time being a fucking idiot. It's difficult to accept and enjoy anything his characters say at face value. For example, Book of the Long Sun features some of the most blatant anti-organised-religion themes I've ever come across in literature. The book's "gods" are the digitised family of a massive asshole dictator who manipulated people by brainwashing them into believing he was a god and creating a stupid and cruel religion based on blood sacrifice. The Pope of this religion is literally a vampire. The false church and its pretend computerised gods are trying to keep mankind trapped and blind to the scientific realities of the cosmos. Countless times during the story, characters casually utter lines that completely destroy the slavishness, emptiness and stupidity of organised religion as a tool designed by men to exploit other men. And yet, the author's conclusion from this allegory isn't that religion itself is idiotic and harmful, only that the people in the book are following the WRONG religion: if only they'd accidentally rediscovered Catholicism, everything would be absolutely OK. That's not open to literary interpretation because we all KNOW that Gene Wolfe is a hardcore Catholic who believes in the literal transubstantion, that God as Jesus Christ walked the Earth, etc. Sadly, knowing the author's beliefs does spoil the books somewhat.

[Anonymous No.17784212]

>Google Kellhus while reading The Darkness That Comes Before Prologue
>google recommendations spoils his fate
wtf man

[Anonymous No.17784235]

>>17784108
>And yet, the author's conclusion from this allegory isn't that religion itself is idiotic and harmful, only that the people in the book are following the WRONG religion: if only they'd accidentally rediscovered Catholicism, everything would be absolutely OK. That's not open to literary interpretation because we all KNOW that Gene Wolfe is a hardcore Catholic who believes in the literal transubstantion, that God as Jesus Christ walked the Earth, etc. Sadly, knowing the author's beliefs does spoil the books somewhat.
You are either completely brainwashed or a braindead idiot, Likely both.
Gene is also not my favorite author but for fucks sake saying his religious beliefs, something completely outside the book, dictates what the core message of said book is WHITOUT ROOM FOR DEBATE and therefore ruins it is ridiculous.
You know death of the author is argued for a reason right? and in this case it doesn't even need to apply, you are simply projection your own clear biases against religious people on a book that could be said to be anti religious just because the author himself is not as "enlightened" as you see yourself.

[Anonymous No.17784245]

About 3/4 the way through Reapers Gale.

Karsa is my favorite by far. Most of the other characters are mostly just noise. Rulad is a great final boss.

[Anonymous No.17784435]

>>17769238
I've read 2312 and got really disgusted by everyone having a little dick/pussy on top of their normal stuff and one character without it being called a freak.
Other than that, I liked it. Should I avoid his other books?

[Anonymous No.17784653]

>>17783590
Replace Sandersoy with Robert E Howard and you're gucci. Otherwise prepare for death.

[Anonymous No.17784740]

God fucking damn it
today I opened my kindle cover and there was a little cockroach crushed between the kindle bezel and the case

[Anonymous No.17784746]

>>17784740
>just third world things

[Anonymous No.17784775]

>>17773033
>pulp era
>two of the three books aren't pulp
Nigga...

[Anonymous No.17784782]

>>17784740
Clean your fucking room

[Anonymous No.17784810]

>>17783317
Based.

[Anonymous No.17784816]

Anyone have any actual good Lovecraft inspired novel recs?

[Anonymous No.17784829]

>have finished four of the seven Second Apocalypse books
>have identified almost everything on that political compass that gets passed around
>most notable one I'm still confused about is Meat-Crazed Ordealman
>at the part in White-Luck Warrior where they're marching near the Sranc Horde and nearly starving
got a bad feeling about what's going to happen

[Anonymous No.17784831]

>>17784816
Not a novel, but the story The Last Feast of Harlequin by Ligotti is probably the greatest Lovecraft pastiche ever written.

[Anonymous No.17784866]

>>17784829
oh you're gonna get to feel the meat's coming/cumming alright.

[Anonymous No.17784971]

>>17773033
The "pulp era" of the '10s to the '40s WAS the golden age. Asimov and co was the silver age.

[Anonymous No.17784995]

>>17784829
you vill eat ze meat
you vill live in ze new empire
you vill give up your gnosis
you vill own nothing
and you vill be happy

[Anonymous No.17785048]

/sffg/, how does this sound as the backstory of a science-fantasy setting?

Note: it's dumbed down so I don't get misunderstood

>billions of years ago the seed of an alien god came down and turned earth into a weird space egg
>before this anything was possible and magic was real, but the fetus needed facts and logic to survive, so it created them inside the shell inventing fun things like physics and social darwinism
>social darwinism (and normal darwinism) prompted simple life to evolve into complex things to get stronger, which resulted in humans being born
>humans built their society on facts and logic, and when humans found the fetus they tried to use those to understand it
>in doing so they made it thrash around and crack the egg, causing all the facts and logic and physics and social darwinism to leak out, bringing a little bit of magic back
>humans could have used this small amount of magic to create infinite free energy or end world hunger
>instead a handful used magic to become wizard and then blew everyone else up trying to keep the rest for themselves
>now the survivors have nothing and the wizard are trying to get each other's power, but if humanity survives long enough the egg will break open completely, and everyone will be a wizard
>except when that happens the alien god will hatch and destroy the world

[Anonymous No.17785062]

>>17785048
I think you dumbed it down to the point of incoherence

[Anonymous No.17785065]

>>17785048
I too have played FFXIII

[Anonymous No.17785086]

>>17785048
How To Own Libtard Alien God With Fact And Logics In 10 Simple Steps

[Anonymous No.17785102]

>>17785062
what's incoherent?

>>17785086
I want to see this alien god fetus recite the lyrics to WAP

[Anonymous No.17785112]

>>17785065
FF13 correctly identifies modern states treat their citizens as pets

[Anonymous No.17785182]

>>17785048
That's literally just a combination of the plot of several final fantasy games combined with World of Warcraft.

[Anonymous No.17785242]

>>17785182
>>17785065

the only final fantasy games I've played are tactics advance and KH 1 and 2. Warcraft I played from 3 to wrath of the lich king, but I never bothered to learn the lore.

Looking back at things, it amazes me that the series that broke ground by treating orcs as people also pulled a rowling with their goblins

[Anonymous No.17785369]

>>17767488
For some reason I feel an intense need to read his text in the voice of Winnie the Pooh

[Anonymous No.17785391]

>>17784435
Wait, you're telling me there's a scifi novel about futanari? picked up

[Anonymous No.17785501]

>I tend the fields....
>And burn them.

[Anonymous No.17785666]

>>17784995
Those damn Zaudunyani!

[Anonymous No.17785704]

>>17785501
>Where you fall as fodder...
>I descend as Hunger

[Anonymous No.17785735]

>>17785666
Harweel, get the chorae ballista...
The BIG chorae ballista

[Anonymous No.17785769]

>>17784108
filtered

[Anonymous No.17785805]

God fucking damn do I love Second Apocalypse. I haven't been this engrossed in fiction since I was a kid.

[Anonymous No.17785807]

>>17785805
What's it about?

[Anonymous No.17785811]

>>17785807
Gay secks
Masturbating with a severed head
Gay rape

[Anonymous No.17785813]

>>17785811
Why am I not surprised.

[Anonymous No.17785815]

>>17785811
Gay as fuck.

[Anonymous No.17785823]

>>17785065
Is it any good?

[Anonymous No.17785834]

>>17785735
No

[Anonymous No.17785836]

>>17785048
Too winded.

[Anonymous No.17785839]

>>17767488
He's a lazy fuck and he made it in the industry.

[Anonymous No.17785851]

>>17785807
A guy looking for his dad

[Anonymous No.17785863]

>>17785807
It’s about 5000 pages
and every one of them is worth reading unless you’re a squeamish brainlet.

[Anonymous No.17785930]

>>17785735
You're gonna need a bigger hole.

[Anonymous No.17786454]

Good sci-fi is one set in a universe without humans because FUCK YOU and FUCK YOUR ENDLESS HFY PLOT ARMOUR, The writers are already human, I've had enough of 'muh Homo Sapiens', I want to escape from you monkeys goddammit

[Anonymous No.17787505]

What's the verdict?

[Anonymous No.17787579]

>>17773033
>no vance whatsoever
sacrilege anon