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Does /lit/ approve of rap music as a form of poetry?

>> No.17765284

>>17765270
no it's a form of music, the lyrics are secondary, and the poetic quality of the lyrics are like quaternary at best

>> No.17765290

>>17765270
SLIP LIKE FREUDIAN

>> No.17765292

>>17765270
I do. Some of its very good, technically. Some I can do without out, but thats true for any genre

>> No.17765333

>>17765270
Fo' shnizzle my nizzle

>> No.17765348

>>17765270
Fuck off, nigger, literature is for white men only.

>> No.17765350

>>17765270
Poetry? No. But do some tracks have impressive, entertaining and witty wordplay? Sure. But its pure kitsch.

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17765351

>>17765270
Yes

>> No.17765357
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17765357

>>17765333
i cant believe white people like you exist/still say corny shit like this.

>> No.17765367

>>17765348
Nigger? but you are a nigger.

>> No.17765552

>>17765284
this man knows. doom is so much more about how it sounds than what it means, just read his lyrics. there must be more poetical rappers but even the ones that care about telling a story will still put how a verse sounds over its meaning, otherwise they'd be writing poetry instead of rap
>serial killer hidin' murder material in a cereal box on top of your stereo
sounds cool though

>> No.17765562

>>17765357
shut the fuck up shine

>> No.17765579

>>17765357
Hoes mad

>> No.17765595

>>17765367
I am a nigger and I also white,
what you can do about that,
huh,
bitch.

>> No.17765606

>>17765595
We White Niggers are an oppressed class

>> No.17765835

>>17765350
Listen to none shall pass by Aesop Rock

>> No.17765847

>>17765270
Retards Attempting Poetry

>> No.17765931

>>17765835
Based. Aesop Rock far and above any other rapper in terms of his lexicon and meaning. Consistent too I think his latest album was probably my favourite after Float

>> No.17766164

i like

"Damn, that loop is tight."
That nigga, found a way to sample the way the truth the light.
Can't wait to play myself at the party tonight.
Niggas are gonna die.

Get get get get
Got got got got
Blood rush to my
Head lit hot lock
Poppin' off the
Fuckin' block knot
Clockin' wrist slit
Watch bent thought bot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI8sDLkyvQY&ab_channel=Serengeti-Topic
https://youtu.be/36DCuT1KxM4?t=128

>> No.17766231

P!

favorite love song.

https://youtu.be/-S4f2l5oP8M

>> No.17766248

>>17765270
some raps are most definitely poetry.

>> No.17766265

Only if its GTBSBE

>> No.17766309

>>17765270
I non-ironically respect the ability some rappers show to freestyle, which is probably something most poets couldn't do anymore (in the past they could, it's not hard to find older poets bragging about how they could "talk in verse"). I don't know how strictly do rappers stick to a certain meter in English, which might not be as an important aspect in rap either way, but in my language I've noticed they do tend to follow one.
I think hip hop has given less attention to songwriting today than they did in the past though, it seems that production is now more important, which is a shame, but it also makes this discussion sort of futile, but it's not like this could be discussed in /lit/ anyhow.
Anyways, a song I really like for how its written is Biggie's Niggas bleed, just look at these lines:
>Niggas bleed just like us
>Picture me bein' scared of a nigga that breathe the same air as me
>Niggas bleed just like us
>Picture me bein' shook
>We can both pull burners, make the muthafuckin' beef cook
>Niggas bleed just like us
>Picture a nigga hidin'
>My life in that man hands, while he jus' decidin'
>I'd rather go toe to toe with all of y'all
>Runnin' ain't in my protocol

>> No.17766630

>>17765270
No
/thread

>> No.17766648

>>17765290
DONT TOUCH THE MIC LIKE THERES AIDS ON IT

>> No.17766659

>>17765350
This
>>17765835
>>17765931
Aesop Rock is the only rapper who approaches rap like poetry

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>>17765348

>> No.17766763

>>17766659
A lot of people he collaborated with also looked more at the poetical side of rap. Eyedea (pbuh) was maybe the closest to him

>> No.17767593

no, i don't think of rap or music lyrics as poetry but i will say that a lot of rappers are very good writers.

>> No.17767635

>>17765351
bladee is a good poet (or was), Ecco is mainly a good musician though. he's got some great writing in places though

>> No.17767772

>>17767635
I hope bladee goes back to writing lyrics instead of just making it up as he stands in front of a mic