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17758666 No.17758666 [Reply] [Original]

>reason is bad, people should follow their instincts instead

Isn't this what people have done in recent decades? Seems like it hasn't worked out well

>> No.17758681

>>17758666
It's what they've always done

>> No.17758724

>reason is good, but free spirits will necessarily follow their instincts instead

This is what he actually said.

>> No.17758801

>>17758666
If people followed their instincts they would shoot homosexuals, lock up their daughters and beat the shit out of their wives.

>> No.17758808

>>17758801
>If people followed their instincts they would fuck homosexuals, fuck their daughters and fuck their wives
FTFY

>> No.17758884

>>17758666
>instinct =/= passion
Nietzschean instinct is active, which is creative or productive. The equivalence you are making is about the passive, about being dragged to act according to an exterior cause.
>>17758724 is right.

Also, nice trips.

>> No.17758988

>>17758801
Based

>> No.17759019

>>17758884

Queer people that create their own new gender and identity follow their passions.

Thanks Nietzsche

>> No.17759093

>>17759019
Are they ubermench?

>> No.17759102

>>17759019
or alternatively, hyperrational atheist midwits

>> No.17759107
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>>17759019
>he thinks the Dionysian grand style is the same as nihilistic German subjectivism a la Kant or Hegel
>he still thinks instinct = passion

>> No.17759120

Guess how I know there are a lot of americans here.

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17759134

>>17759019
>Queer people that create their own new gender and identity follow their passions.
Yes.

>> No.17759145

>>17759019
>creating your own gender and identity is bad because..... It just is okay?? /pol/ told me so!!

>> No.17759150

>>17759019
neopronouns are nietzchean

>> No.17759158

>>17758666
PEDOPHILIA
GOOD
RAPE
GOOD

>> No.17759164

>>17759019
It is and it's based. Watch the slave morality repressed homos that didn't understand Nietzsche and need to fit in with 4chan really bad say otherwise.

>> No.17759172

>>17758666
Instincts are Ultimately Animalistic if not tempered by Higher Principles. But Nietzsche was a materialist autist who didn't believe in an inherent Intelligence in Metaphysics so that's off the table and his philosophy finalizes as a mere Retvrn to Monke.

>> No.17759180

>>17759019
I do not see a problem with that? Why should I care that they are trying to recreate themselves?

>> No.17759190

>>17759172
>But Nietzsche was a materialist autist who didn't believe in an inherent Intelligence in Metaphysics so that's off the table and his philosophy finalizes as a mere Retvrn to Monke.
Stop posting, this is just embarrassing.

>> No.17759197

>>17759120
Colour me surprized.

>> No.17759204
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17759204

>>17758666
You have to follow your SOUL anon. If you know what i mean

>> No.17759220

>>17758666
Have you actually seen how governments operate?

Just look at the big coof. There is no study that respiratory disease from a family of viruses that are known to spread via droplets can spread via droplets so the first two months you've had "experts" parading around and saying facemasks don't work. I'm not even going to get to the eternal war of epidemiologists with stopping disease spread at the borders(WHO literally has an organ solely dedicated to lobbying against border closure in case of pandemic) - which is yet another example of "reason" triumphing over instincts.

But that's small pickle. Once you see the world of think tanks with their policy proposals and projections, all of which are based on models that outright don't work, noble prize winning economists who's discoveries, after being applied lead to market crashes, hordes of "scientists" who steer policies and opinions while their ability at handling data ends at getting some regressions done etc. etc. you will understand that very few organisations in the world still operate on instincts.

>> No.17759222

>>17759134
>>17759145
>>17759150
>>17759164
LGBTQNPCWTF is peak resentment and slave morality, wtf. Are we being raid by bunkercucks again?

>> No.17759225

>>17759220
WEAR A FUCKING MASK RETARD

>> No.17759232

>>17759164
Yea sure, the schizos with learned helplessness and a permanent victim complex who weaponize the state against masculinity are so Nietzschean

>> No.17759233

>>17759222
>yeah bro Nietzsche was totally based and tradpilled!!!!
Fucking retard go read Evola Nietzsche isn't for you

>> No.17759239

>>17759190
He didn't. He was an unprincipled fedora Goblin and his Ubermensch was to be "Faithful to the Earth" so he's already bound up in the Animalistic Naturalistic cult of the Earth Mother.

Neech's value disappears after his initial critiques of Nihilist Modernity and the Skeletons of Cheap Religiosity.

He's not a full Human nor does he believe in a Full Human, just the animal junk. He was however pretty good at deluding himself that his beliefs were complete. Neech was interested in telling the Sun to fuck off and then expecting the Grass and Trees to still reach upward just cause.

He's a retard and can be discarded.

>> No.17759244

>>17758666
You are becoming aware of the fact that Nietzsche is a historical footnote of the 19th century, like Marx, and his ideas don't make sense outside of that century.

>> No.17759249

This is my first time visiting /lit/ in over a year and I continue to be surprised at how confident /lit/ pseuds can be despite of how poor their reading comprehension is (assuming they've read anything at all)

>> No.17759251

>>17759232
They are. Stop coping. You're literally showing slave morality.
>BEING GAY IS BAD BECAUSE GAYS HAVE MORE POWER THAN ME!!!

>> No.17759255

>>17759145
Do you really not think that's a bad thing? How do you define and legislate it? How do you back it with any scientific and psychological data to provide legitimacy? If you don't do either then you're playing pretend in a grown ups world. This is inherently stupid and counter productive.

>> No.17759264

>dis good
>dat bad
What happened to beyond good and evil?
Surely some reason is good and some instincts are bad?

>> No.17759265

>>17759251
>IM SO FUCKING WEAK AND INEFFECTUAL THAT I MUST WHINE CONSTANTLY FOR A GOVERNING BODY TO ELIMINATE PEOPLE WHO HURT MY FEELINGS
Peak Ubermensch

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17759275

>Do you really not think that's a bad thing? How do you define and legislate it? How do you back it with any scientific and psychological data to provide legitimacy? If you don't do either then you're playing pretend in a grown ups world. This is inherently stupid and counter productive

>> No.17759289

>>17759244
His ideas make sense. People just don't (or can't) read.

>> No.17759291

>>17759265
>>IM SO FUCKING WEAK AND INEFFECTUAL THAT I MUST WHINE CONSTANTLY FOR A GOVERNING BODY TO ELIMINATE PEOPLE WHO HURT MY FEELINGS
Yeah straightoids have done that for most of history, but what do gays have to do with it?

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17759312

>>17759291

>> No.17759336

>>17759239
>unprincipled
Yeah so unprincipled that he wrote a dozen books + dozens of essays, poems, and songs and even attacked the Germans for being unprincipled nihilists compared to early Renaissance men (primarily French and Italians). But you've ever read anything of his so of course you don't actually know what he did or thought.

>> No.17760556

>>17759204
I will never understand this fetish

>> No.17760776

>>17758801
oh noooooooo that suucckks

>> No.17760868

>>17758666
>Institutionally have love for own child over other children
>Well that's irrational
What a cuck ideology

>> No.17761077

>>17759233
t. never read nietzsche. pick up a book faggot.

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17761178

the amount of seething in this thread is alarming. You are not being the New Philosophers that Nietzsche hoped you could've been, anons.

>> No.17761747

>>17758681
fpbp

>> No.17763323

>>17759172
He was not materialist in a full sense. one could say Pantheism was his bedrock in terms of metaphysics

>> No.17763936

>>17758681
This, philosophers are delusional.

>> No.17764073

>>17759251
Yeah, and definitely not becasue most of them are degenerates to expect everyone to congratulate them by their existence, or otherwise you are a bigot that deserves to be seriously threaten.
Total ubermensch values

>> No.17764125

>>17758666
We live in the most reasoned and logical time yet. Equations guide our lives.

>> No.17764146

>>17759291
No they got rid of you for being insufferable faggots, like you're doing right now
>inb4 some idiotic response
don't care didn't ask

>> No.17764154

>>17759232
>schizos with learned helplessness and a permanent victim complex who weaponize the state against masculinity are so Nietzschean
Exactly.

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17764227

>>17758666
Maybe actually read him retard instead of being pic rel

>> No.17764513

Reading this thread made me realize how many of you are retarded or haven't actually read Nietzsche.
First of all his philosophy is about how moral values aren't intrinsecally good and universal, but rather how it is a way to live made by a certain kind of humans, and how this help or stops them from development .
When you find his claims about going against reason or encourages the use of intinct, he also tells that the obsession for values that are inherently good affects how we think. Then needing the passion to see things from another perspective.

Therefore OP when, in this manner, our modern way of living doesn't corresponds to what he said because:
>Media and corporations always try to sell their way is good, and the rest who disagrees is bad
>Virtue signalling, doing what is acceptable according to the largest amount of people or the most powerful (see the first point)

So please anons, make yourself a favor an read again (or actually read) what Nietzsche wrote, i don't what you to just have a misinderstanding of the shallowest concepts.