Was he right?

[Anonymous No.17753363]

>Religion was the sole factor in the evolution of ancient Greece and Rome, the bonding of family and state was the work of religion, that because of ancestor worship the family, drawn together by the need to engage in the ancestral cults, became the basic unit of ancient societies, expanding to the gens, the Greek phratry, the Roman tribe, to the patrician city state, and that decline in religious belief and authority in the moral crisis provoked by Roman wealth and expansion doomed the republic and resulted in the triumph of Christianity and the death of the ancient city-state.

[Anonymous No.17753402]

>>17753363
Yes, many such as Evola, Eliade, Dumezil assert much the same.

[Anonymous No.17753417]

>>17753363
The success of the inherited values in consolidating power and culture into a civilised form, is also responsible for their disintegration, as the manner of life becomes more and more alienated from the old definitions, and questions arise as to their meaning and utility.

[Anonymous No.17753723]

>>17753363
Modern Japanese people still have little shrines in their homes to honor their ancestors. I doubt there's a less religious country in the world. Ancestor worship is essential to cohere a functional society.

[Anonymous No.17753734]

>>17753363
Maybe but there’s obviously a degree to which it’s speculative at best.

[Anonymous No.17753745]

>>17753723
>implying japan is functional on a soulful level

[Anonymous No.17753757]

>>17753723
You do know what happened to Japan in WW2 right? That's what broke the Japanese soul and they've only been coping since.

[Anonymous No.17753766]

>>17753757
It's a rich, safe, advanced country much better than the vast majority of the countries of the world.

[Anonymous No.17753780]

>>17753766
Exactly, that's what's wrong with Japan. They used to be warriors and intellectuals, now they're prototypical bugmen

[Anonymous No.17753785]

>>17753780
>intellectuals
Lol no, and praising warrior mentality in XXIth century is mere larping.

[Anonymous No.17753787]

>>17753785
t. bugman

[Anonymous No.17753807]

>>17753787
War has changed whether you like it or not.

[Anonymous No.17753815]

>>17753807
Warrior mentality can exist without war as it was. In your view pic rel is better than this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cufG2Dlxvk

[Anonymous No.17753817]

>>17753363
Why did Greek and Roman societies develop such a religion? It's only a proximate cause of what you are describing. The religion must have come from somewhere

[Anonymous No.17753822]

>>17753815
Warrior mentality without war is precisely larping. And your video is a cringe wankfest.

[Anonymous No.17753825]

>>17753363
No.

[Anonymous No.17753836]

>>17753363
He makes a compelling case.

What should I be following up my reading of “The Ancient City” with?

[Anonymous No.17753844]

>>17753822
t. soulless bugman, go play some vidya and jerk off more

[Anonymous No.17753862]

>>17753844
t. larping wanker who couldn't fire a round without falling on his ass.

[Anonymous No.17753870]

>>17753817
In the book he says it’s a common heritage they brought with them from the Central Asian steppe.

[Anonymous No.17753871]

>>17753817
The gods. Elevation of religion is already a decline.

[Anonymous No.17753884]

>>17753862
If you consider this peak society, your opinion is disregarded

[Anonymous No.17753903]

>>17753884
I see I hit a nerve. False dichotomy anyway. Society doesn't work on an axis with the feudal warrior at one end and otakus at the other.

[Anonymous No.17753921]

>>17753903
What nerve did you hit? Your opinion is still disregarded, bugman.

[Anonymous No.17753937]

>>17753921
That larping warriors on the internets are just larping. At least I know to ride a horse. Be coherent and join your country's military to see actual war, that's closer to warrior ethics than shitposting on 4 chan pretending to be samurai deep down.

[Anonymous No.17753953]

>>17753937
You just said war in that way doesn't exist anymore and now you want me to see actual war? Yes thanks for confirming you're a retard.
> At least I know to ride a horse
Lmao faggot

[Anonymous No.17753982]

>>17753953
>I want to be a warriorz but I don't want to fight actual war
Implicitly you admit you're larping.

[Anonymous No.17753994]

>>17753982
>I can't read
Yes yes we know

[Anonymous No.17754043]

>>17753994
I thought courtesy was part of the warrior ideal, but like war it's optional I suppose.

[Anonymous No.17754060]

>>17754043
There's no reason at all to extend courtesy to smug bugmen

[Anonymous No.17754156]

>>17753815
Is that some type of storeroom or is that actually the sickly looking gentleman's residence?

[Anonymous No.17754185]

>>17754156
That's where he lives

[Anonymous No.17754431]

>>17754185
Is that his lounge room, bedroom, or both? What's the story behind this guy and how the hell do you live like that?

[Anonymous No.17754462]

>>17754431
I'm not sure but this is a (somewhat extreme) example of a phenomenon known as hikikomori, basically societal recluses who never leave their room, take no care of themselves.

[Anonymous No.17754483]

>>17753402
There are much later than Coulanges btw

[Anonymous No.17754493]

>>17753817
Do you have any suggestions?

[Anonymous No.17754661]

>>17754462
> "acute social withdrawal"
Looks very much like the Japanese version of the popular Mother's basement stereotype. I could absolutely go for the social recluse lifestyle, and do to some extent, but you would have to be in a pretty bad place to end up like that poor guy.

[Anonymous No.17754826]

>>17753363
Clearly. There is no culture, no civility, no progress without sincere religion.

[Anonymous No.17754874]

>>17754483
True, I know at least Evola was influenced somewhat by Coulanges.

[Anonymous No.17754878]

>>17753807
>War has changed whether you like it or not

How so? Not all wars take place between advanced governments with drones and nukes.